I have been playing and running Draw Steel's playtest since August of last year, and have since moved on to the release version. I recently ran a brief level 5 game. This is my play report: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Be1a7GJ1gjK7SqYQWZmxA2Tx_nIF6vRcTNqOKuUUQ3g/editThe full version is above, but to summarize:• I had four players. One had already played the system a fair bit, and had experience with grid-based tactical games like D&D 4e and ICON. The other three were new, but also had experience with tactical games.• I set this in the timescape's space-fantasy upper worlds, in a UNISOL-aligned manifold. The story began with a counterattack on the fleet of Lord Syuul, and culminated in delving into the minds of two Space Gods to save a planetary system.• I kept basic numerical statistics transparent, but enemy traits and abilities opaque.• Negotiations were received poorly by the players. They felt too rote (uncover, appeal, uncover, appeal, repeat), and it quickly became evident that some PCs should just step back and let the characters with relevant perma-edges (e.g. High Elf Glamor) handle everything.• Montages had a somewhat better reception, but the players still were not too warm on them. They just do not like 4e-style skill challenges.• Combat was the most well-received facet of the system. The consensus seemed to be "decent, would definitely play again, but nothing special compared to other grid-based tactical games we have already played."Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96507161Just to clarify, what additional penalties beyond difficult terrain did the director impose? Required swim checks to move at all? Straight into suffocation rules?Regardless, I think the director is wrong because he made the ruling on the fly (presumably to make the encounter more challenging - were you winning hard when this happened?), but the ruling is mostly in spirit with the "cinematic" nature of the game and the mechanics by which hazards work: entering the space triggers the free triggered action for the terrain to do its thing. There is no hazard that actually does this, but I can imagine homebrewing one that has a triggered reaction to vertical slide based on a power roll (I also assume your director didn't make any rolls, making him wronger). Probably should have treated it like quicksand, though.Barring terrain mechanics, I think anither creaturing using a vertical push or slide would be necessary to sink to the bottom in that manner. Trying to rationalize things based on kit and armour weight and "realism" would be silly.
>>96507564>Just to clarify, what additional penalties beyond difficult terrain did the director impose?The mud is simply water and difficult terrain, also conferring two-way concealment beyond the uppermost cube. Water and difficult terrain makes it hard to move through, though.>the mechanics by which hazards work: entering the space triggers the free triggered action for the terrain to do its thing.It was not a dynamic terrain object. This was what the Director simply thought happened when a creature is force moved into water.
>>96507663It sounds like the director doesn't really know what he's doing, and it would be beyond ridiculous to treat this type of sinking as the general rule. However, I still think that ruling this way I'm this specific instance is probably in the spirit of the rules, partly because this sounds to me like more than just regular old water, and there's a couple ways the mechanics would support this. It's perhaps worth thinking through, as I see this type of situation cropping up frequently.The real problem is simply the director doing this without any kind of roll.>>simply water and difficult terrainI guess I'm a bit confused by the repeated "water+DT." Water simply is difficult terrain (that can be avoided by a swim speed). For "significant movement penalty" beyond the rules for difficult terrain, the director can also call for a might test and impose additional consequences based on the result. No movement allowed is the example cited in the rules, but I think sinking based on the results of a might test could be perfectly reasonable in this instance. But the director didn't ask for the check, he just did the thing like an idiot.>>not a dynamic terrain objectEven if not designed as one, I think it would be reasonable to treat it as one on the fly. The problem is there isn't a roll, and this puts the roll for sinking in the director instead of the players.I can see a case for rolling either way, but the rules want the roll to happen no matter how you slice it.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96508157Water is not actually difficult terrain by default:https://steelcompendium.io/compendium/main/Rules/Chapters/Combat/#climb-or-swim>Climb or Swim>A creature who has "climb" in their speed entry, or who gains the temporary ability to automatically climb, can climb across vertical and horizontal surfaces at full speed. Likewise, a creature who has "swim" in their speed entry, or who gains the temporary ability to automatically swim, can swim in liquid at full speed.>Creatures without those types of movement can still climb or swim when a rule allows them to move, but each square of climbing or swimming costs 2 squares of movement. If a surface is difficult to climb (for instance, a sheer cliff or ice-covered wall) or a liquid is hard to swim through (a raging river or whirlpool), the Director can call for a Might test. On a failure, a creature can't climb or swim but wastes no movement in the attempt. The Director can also impose other consequences to failure, such as being caught in the spinning current of a whirlpool.https://steelcompendium.io/compendium/main/Rules/Chapters/Combat/#difficult-terrain>Difficult Terrain>Areas of thick underbrush, rubble, spiderwebs, or other obstacles to movement create difficult terrain. It costs 1 additional square of movement to enter a square of difficult terrain.Water that is also difficult terrain thus costs 3 squares of movement to enter.
>>96504681>No I always assume some sort of interesting battle map, but the "not him" anon's issues with the shadow didn't seem to have anything to do with good or bad terrain, they are just repetitive on their own.I haven't played the game extensively, when I played a character that didn't really move or push the others around, I found it really boring. So if that sniper build is like that, I can understand why someone would find it boring. As I said, if you are not pushing others around and moving around the map, like a tactical game, there is no point in playing Draw Steel over other systems.
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>>96506691>TQ A mixture of both so for whatever shlub who wants to play a Martial Class doesn't end up being the most useless member of the team
>>96509059Port Chariot of Sustarre
>>96506691>If you were to start a new campaign, either as a player or DM, would you rather play 5e or 5.5e? Why/why not?Op... I just started playing DND a few months ago and I'm only familiar with 5.5e.If you asked me if I'd want to play in 5e 2014 next time... I'd say no, because I'm just starting to understand the 2024 version and the last thing I want is for the rules to start getting mixed up.
>TQI am starting a 5.5e campaign next week. A "trapped in a VR mmorpg" campaign with all the terrible and fun tropes from that genre. My online pals are very excited to play in it, as we are all mmorpg burnouts from the early 2000s. Using this as the setting map btw.
>>96507487>noooo I can't have 15 different copies of the same ability like in 4e where I shift an ally 10 feet and pretend it's epic gameplay in a system with no flanking rulesWarlord fags are insufferable holy shit. They cannot cope with the fact that not everyone liked their stupid-ass "shouting the severed arm back on" abilities and pointlessly shuffling people around out of turn and giving them attacks out of turn. There should have been more abilities like that in general if that was what people wanted. Be happy they put that shit in 5e at all. Adding your charisma to some ally's attack is fucking moronic. You idiots really need to stop overestimating the power of Charisma just because you all have an 8 charisma IRL, you cannot "inspire" someone to suddenly become proficient with a sword. inb4 "momma bear lifts car off her baby with insane strength" bullshit. Guess what? No matter how handsome you are, you're not making her wet enough to do that. That's reserved for maternal instinct only, you fucking incel freak. Seriously, you warlord players are fucking insufferable. You micromanage the entire table and screech like a little bitch when people don't utilize your buffs the exact way you would. It's like a constant pressure cooker especially because a lot of warlord players have anger issues from losing constantly at RTS games. That's why they play TTRPGs, because they're easy mode where you have to try to lose instead of try to win. As a result you can just sit there and give your abilities out and tell people NO MOVE THERE or NO ATTACK THIS GUY and half the time you don't even know how other peoples' powers work. Yeah, fuck yeah am I glad they didn't include Warlord class in 5e. You guys were fucking insufferable cunts and they probably didn't want the normgroid infestation they planned to herald in with 5e D&D to be repulsed by your sweaty tryhardness. I cannot think of a more tryhard class, a more söy class than fucking warlord. Good. Fucking. Riddance.
Will it be bad?
>>96458890No idea who these faggots are, so yes.
>>96498923>over... nothingHe was a hypocrite. If you're going to brand yourself as the safe guy, the guy who made a game with safety tools, etc, don't take away your players agencies. If he were anybody else, he would have gotten away with it
>>96509077Yes he was a hypocrite. But it was still over nothing. I can enjoy the schadenfreude of him being torn apart by his own tribe, while also thinking what happened wasn't serious.
>>96509077Agree about him being a hypocrite. Role-playing is NOT having complete control over what happens to your character, especially when you choose to play a fuck bot. Safety tools are for toddler minds and control freaks. What he did was suicidal. Like Mercer and Mulligan, I have yet to see one of these "professional GMs" grasp the concept of TTRPG.
>>96504690>>96504920ThisLiam has done something people hated Orion for at the table, every episode for a decade. O'Brien is the poster-boy for cheating and That Guy.
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>>96508244Neither do they hobby as you're expressing
>>96509209>Really disliked using a black undercoat desuI don't even use a black undercoat for my Death Company any more after learning from our Black Templar and Chaos Marine ladz. Black undercoat with red paint for Blood Angels seems like way more trouble than it's worth.
>>96508119>>96508244Hows bulges, craftsperg?
Working on a kitbashed Iconward, gonna attempt to free hand some stuff on his banner but I’m not sure what to go for, if I just go easy and do some symbols or try a simple looking mural, something like a sun over a planet
>>96508179Must've just stabbed a ukrainian girl
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>>96508955>In B/X it is assumed that the rate at which the party travels is a slow cautious sneaking movement with enough time to map out their course.Incorrect. The travelling movement rates are in line with the historical expected travelling rate for a Roman legion (22 modern miles with a 45 lb load) , as well as the current expected rate for infantry in modern armies (e.g. 12 miles with a 70 lb load).
>>96506786anons mentioned everything else already but the stat block is written assuming the NPC dwarf has reduced speed because he's carrying a full kit>Att 1 × weapon (1d8 or by weapon), THAC0 19 [0]OSE's using the optional rule for tracking partyy encumbrance is pretty mandatory unless you're actually playing with kids, regardless of whether you house rule PC races to have different speeds or not
>>96506472I found each quadrant was pretty coherent, the rooms have random stuff in them but you can very easily tell a story about each quadrant. I changed dozens of small things over the course of the game though so it's something you would no doubt adapt to your party/setting. I've set up dungeons as very Mythic Underworld so incoherency is somewhat explained by that. Most of the upper floors are very disconnected from the "plot" of the megadungeon, you don't really find much of that until you get a bit deeper. Hell I was just starting to really engage with it when they got to Floor 4. I ran two groups in it at the same time, it was interesting to see how each group approached it. One was much more risk averse than the other, they stayed on Floor 1 longer and when they eventually dipped down into Floor 2 they suffered a TPK. They then rerolled a party of almost entirely clerics and just started farming the undead quadrant on Floor 1 under the party name "Holy Rollers" since no one else really wanted to deal with that. I also had 5 NPC parties I'd abstractly determine how many rooms they cleared. The only time the Holy Rollers went down a floor was when one of the higher level NPC parties rolled crazy high and cleared the entirety of Floor 1. The risk averse players were pissed as shit and felt like they shouldn't have been able to do that and made all sorts of arguments about them not having enough time blah blah blah but it came down to just being a super high dice roll so they just had to deal with it, shit happens.The other party had a much higher risk appetite and pushed further, I think they were going into Floor 4 while the risk averse party hadn't even seen Floor 3. This led to them being a good bit higher level and with better loot which the risk averse party also "complained" about, calling them lucky and them not getting good treasure but it really came down to the challenges they were facing.
>>96509418>the stat block is written assuming the NPC dwarf has reduced speed because he's carrying a full kit>>Att 1 × weapon (1d8 or by weapon), THAC0 19 [0]Not sure what you mean by "full kit" and what makes you think that that relates to THAC0 and damage (it doesn't), but either way, nowhere in the rule does it say that the Dwarf Monster's movement rate is calculated from its equipment by using the PC rules.In fact, there's ample evidence that that is NOT how movement rates are calculated for monsters in general: Good luck explaining Elves and Bandits with an AC of 6 or 5 and a movement rate of 120' using the B/X encumbrance rules.Even more generally, there's ample evidence against the idea that PC rules apply to non-PCs: Other discrepancies include the fact that Elf Monsters have 1+1 HD (1d8+1 HP), or that Bandits are "NPC Thieves" with a full monster HD (1d8 HP).
>>96509562>I ran two groups in it at the same timeSame world or two parallel ones?
>Previous thread:>>96387312>What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96508163That sounds awful as fuck ngl. Have you asked ChatGPT to write it for you?
>>96508163Sounds like a boardgame.
>>96506930Brutality Skirmish, En Garde, lots of the other Osprey stuff
>>96508163you are retarded that's not a wargame
>>96507167Fucking do it, and get us a batrep
It is time
>>96508239I've been banned for less
>>96505008Doesn't actually have anything to do with Lovecraft, btw.
>>96503698It doesn't imply that at all.
>>96509480You posted a rule clarification and called it "rules as written". Where exactly is the joke?
Wait a minute, so if "the Old World" is set centuries before Warhammer Fantasy Battles has black Empire troops, female Bretonnian Knights and Dwarf Warriors, does this mean some horrific regression happened by the time of Karl Franz???Seriously how would they address this?
>>96495893I don't think it's worth trying to wrap your head into a knot trying to fit it into the lore; just accept that GW put politics over the purity of their IP and try and avoid the woke dick they're trying to "progress" down your throat. Thankfully 3D printing has never been more accessible and WHFB armies are by far the easiest to find decent models for.
Took a detour from making characters and thought of doing some terrian, mostlly a Special terrain to use for that Lone tower mission, maybe add some flavour since it's against a Bretonnian player.Would you go with the arches or no?
>>96506145oops wrong place, my mistake!
>>96495893Good attempt at lamplighting, but black troops have been a thing ever since 2nd edition WHFB. They used to be a contingent in Lustrian Lizard armies, or could even by fielded by themselves. I remember some dude even making a flying pyramid (from the lore about them at the time) so they could have floated across the sea anytime in one of the many lizardman invasions, conqured land, settled down and mixed with the Old World population - it's what happened in the past in the real world.
>>96506026This. You can't pick a period piece setting that has, ironically, grounded factions when it comes on gender norms, and then say "erm, actually women can be Grail Knights even though Bretonnia is Arthurian-esque and it's the most strict of the three human-led nations".I get Kislev being looser on this and even then they don't have women on their army unless they got special magic.
8th edition effectively killed this setting and franchise. The setting progression destroyed it all man. How would we fix Warhammer?Arch was right Outercircle was right Gamza was right
>>96507002Nta, but what's the deal with bigger batman? He doesn't look very sneaky.
>>96508837>what's the deal with bigger batmanHe big>He doesn't look very sneaky.He doesn't need to be
>>96501262There is no other logical response to you screaming about agendas, commies, and lying about your samefagging
>>96509022Presuming someone that mocks you is samefagging as another dude who told you he won't stop having fun isn't logical either lol.
>>96508999lmfao what is that vehicle it's amazing
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>>96506065>>96506413>fields of asphodelYeah that can work. Also thanks in advance for drawing her.
>>96505079Val's OR here. That sounds great. Can't wait :)
requesting a fantasy version of this knife-throwing rogue
Ok nerds! I'm trying to not make a new thread jsut for my dumb crap, but i'm looking for a good depiction of a 'magical girl transformation' for an old guy. In a ttrpg i'm in, one of my fellow players is an big old blacksmith who's learning the power of freindship, and how to trust the sun god. In our next arc my DM and I are trying to set up a transformation for hi... any artists willing spit something out, link a good pre-existing bit would be appreciated. (in before he-man knod, the smith is an older guy who's gonna get his youth back from the sun god.)
>>96456350so nobody gonna work on this <:(
>Brutus' Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDYVVpbllIREdOczg?resourcekey=0-m3LU1xaC5-PnnA0VLRfK9g>DriveAnon's Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cx7KoDkQa9qmDfJN9_CehZ0fxXEweKOu?usp=sharing>Jumpchain IRC Chathttp://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA>Ruleshttp://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn>How to Jumpchainhttp://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVDFBR2NpdG03S0U/viewComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96509403There are bingo cards?
>>96501706why is there so much black space at the top and bottom, why not stretch the image to fit the phone
You think bingo doesn't exist?
>>96503190Jumpmakers are given inspiration from Jumpchan herself.
>>96509532>>96509447
Being the "common unimportant adventurer" doing random treasure hunting is fun and all but it never gives me the same hype as being a very special guy with relevant ties to the major events in the setting.
>>96508182Why did they join a game they had no interest in participating in?
>>96508372your imagination is trash lol
>>96508666Quiet, Satan.
cope
There's this single word poster on /tg/ that really has some kind of issue about people having badwrong fun. His posts read like a person with Tourette's screaming random words over and over.
/tg/, I'm designing a campaign for my group.The campaign consists from three acts. As a whole, they cover levels from 1 to 20.What happens in the first act is immaterial for this thread.In the very beginning of the second act, however, they will meet the big villain of the campaign, who decides that they're going to be a threat to his master plan and immediately kills them all right at the end of a gruelling dungeon. The player characters then go to Valhalla, meet not!Odin and then return to life with a divine quest. Half of the second act will involve fulfilling this quest to pay not!Odin back for their resurrection. The other half involves revenge against the villain.Now, obviously if they just reveal themselves, they'd just be killed again. So they'll be gently suggested to assume false identities and infiltrate the villain's massive army of mercenaries in order to foil his plan from the inside. By the end of the act, the villain's army will be gone, his personal power extinguished, and then he'll die as the final boss of the act.That's the idea. However, I keep thinking about how it'll actually go. I have 7-9 dungeons in mind for the second act. That is a lot of sessions spent under secret identities, while everyone believes that they're dead. While the undercover arc could potentially be interesting, I'm also seeing the potential for it to be very exhausting to actually go through.Should I just pre-emptively cut the "undercover" part to just 1 or 2 dungeons? It's going to be pretty difficult to change them on the fly, if I see that this story is not working.
>>96506139At this point 4chan is mostly bitter divorced dudes who are pushing 40 and too poor to have a proper midlife crisis. Legit autism moved on long ago.
>>96503840This has nothing to do with my post. Why did you post this?
>>96507667"There is a general agreement that self-awareness is foundational to conscious experience. However, autistic people have been described as lacking in self-awareness"
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>>96484029Bodied that freak
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>>96509272Well, there's this and >>96509308
>>96509326>But I'd vastly rather use the spider-man versions over the arena stuffMay I ask why?
>>96509572I always thought AAA was obsessed with fidelity because that was the old paradigm and they are too stupid to move on.
>>96509632Because a character I grew up with in many animated shows, movies, and games is far more appealing than any fantasy setting to me. I really don't care for elves and wizards.
>>96509578nice. Added to maybeboard.
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>>96505824Negates, no.Interactions, yes.You'll also want endboard pieces that are protected from things like destruction and/or banishment of course, but as soon as you run out of things to do, your opponent can just run roughshod over your endboard, and either kill you that turn or put you in a position where you cannot recover. Negation is the most obvious form of that. Hard stuff like Baronne's omnis or Fiendsmith Desirae's soft negation. But you also have things like Spright Elf and Promethean Princess being able to extend (and in Princess' case, pop), or Sky Striker Ace=Zero being able to both set up Raye/Roze (who can link into something on quick effect like Kagari to recover Lemnisgate or Kaina to stun an opponent's monster) and pop a card on the field. The forms of interaction vary from deck-to-deck, but the general rule is that you want to keep those interactions alive for as long as possible so that your opponent doesn't have free reign to do whatever they want.
odds of opponent having nib in opener with 3x in deck are 30.11%, should you just never play around Nibiru ever?
>>96507435In games 2 and 3, yes. It's not really worth considering in Game 1. They will either be maining the card with no guarantee that they drew into it for game 1, or it'll sitting cozy in the side deck for games 2 and 3. You shouldn't really worry about it until it's a known factor.That being said, playing around nib is basically just a matter of getting a good negate up by your 5th summon. So it really depends on how you wanna frame it. Are you playing around nib by turbo'ing out Wave King Caesar, or are you just getting a negate on the field as quickly and conveniently as possible? Would you consider it playing around nib if you're running multiple engines and throw out the less valuable one first to eat any interruption your opponent might have, or just trying to catch all their handtraps and on-field interrupts?That also being said, it doesn't hurt to just look up decklists to see if people are maining the card at multiple copies.
>>96507435It's a side deck card for the most part this format so not in game 1 but then in games 2/3 I might try to based on how I played game 1 as well as what they're on. (assuming I'm on a deck that they would side it in against)
Does having a name condition count as mentioning that monster?
