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We had a thread earlier discussing how Delta Green would do in the universe of WoD and it made me curious; how would the Ordo Veritatis do if they were the ones transported and tasked with eliminating all Vampires? Assuming that they have all their government contacts and resources without needing to fight every other threat in the WoD, could they actually wipe out every vampire?
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>>96533909
I don't think you've ever been in a single Death Batyle thread if you think a civil thread like this could ever occur there.
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>>96522416
>>96522429
>>96523626
The recent pdf preview (which is pretty much exactly the same as the playtest, just with minor text changes, proper stats, and all the art) outright calls the Ordo Veritatis a worldwide conspiracy with access to effectively unlimited resources via its government connections. So the Ocean Game has 100% defined them in a specific form, though the other posts are correct that the way they're described means any level of play is permissible.
https://gamefound.com/en/projects/pelgrane-press/fear-itself-shattered-veil-edition/updates/10

Incidentally, the book ALSO hints that 'Mr. Verity' might be a benign Mystery Man or other similar entity rather than just some intermediary to relay orders to Ordo investigators. So that's a thing.
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>>96526502
This.
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>>96526300
There's the wider picture to look at. The main 2 reasons for the OV acting clandestinely is to prevent being compromised and because knowledge of the outer dark makes the outer dark stronger. Given the OV speciality is investigation (and dropping platoons of elite specialists on anything they consider a threat), it probably wouldn't take them long to figure out that WoD vampires are not Outer Dark Entities. The only real reason to not expose them at that point is if they are worried that knowledge of vampires might lead into people towards finding out about the OD. If they are working on WoD rules the vampires are up against an incredible competent and principled secret society with no qualms about keeping thing behind veils.

I give it 6 months before they have ripped the masquerade into shreds and they have manipulated events so there is a global crusade against vampires. All their weaknesses and infiltration into society exposed. Everyone above 7th gen would be fucked and I image most elders would rather sleep it out and hope that things have calmed down in 500 years. The vampire mindset is just not up for a war on that scale.
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>>96535990
Yeah, the only thing really keeping the OV in check is the fact that any awareness of magic or the Outer Dark damages the Membrane and enables major ODE incursions. And apart from risking the collapse of reality, the OV is intimately aware that the stronger ODEs are so far beyond humanity that it's mostly a mercy they don't care about our universe for the most part (they're basically unaware of the Mystery Men's omnipotence due to lacking Ocean Game knowledge). And whilst the Antes and low gen elders are on similar scales of invincibility, the majority would just go back to sleep as you said.

The only thing the OV would ever have to be worried about in nuking the masquerade is a potential response from the Technocracy, and even the Technocrats would be hard pressed to remove them for exactly the same reasons the Technocracy can't just get rid of Pentex.

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/tg/, I'm designing a campaign for my group.
The campaign consists from three acts. As a whole, they cover levels from 1 to 20.
What happens in the first act is immaterial for this thread.
In the very beginning of the second act, however, they will meet the big villain of the campaign, who decides that they're going to be a threat to his master plan and immediately kills them all right at the end of a gruelling dungeon. The player characters then go to Valhalla, meet not!Odin and then return to life with a divine quest.
Half of the second act will involve fulfilling this quest to pay not!Odin back for their resurrection. The other half involves revenge against the villain.

Now, obviously if they just reveal themselves, they'd just be killed again. So they'll be gently suggested to assume false identities and infiltrate the villain's massive army of mercenaries in order to foil his plan from the inside. By the end of the act, the villain's army will be gone, his personal power extinguished, and then he'll die as the final boss of the act.
That's the idea. However, I keep thinking about how it'll actually go. I have 7-9 dungeons in mind for the second act. That is a lot of sessions spent under secret identities, while everyone believes that they're dead. While the undercover arc could potentially be interesting, I'm also seeing the potential for it to be very exhausting to actually go through.

Should I just pre-emptively cut the "undercover" part to just 1 or 2 dungeons? It's going to be pretty difficult to change them on the fly, if I see that this story is not working.
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OP couldn't even predict the response to him glazing railroading.
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>>96533462
>him glazing railroading
Ummmmmmmm sorry sweaty, but you just did a heckin' black-and-white thinking. This means you are autistic now and that I win.
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Ascended reply.
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Except for when I did multiple times. I even predicted that you'd get mad and reply to yourself.
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Swing and a miss

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Previously on /slop/:>>96513312

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>>96535749
How did you manage to get Enya to play during this clip?
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>>96535015
NTA but ofcourse, you can tell by the resolution an the overall shittiness of the image quality
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>>96535906
heh

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You know the drill, post you terrain collection, WIP terrain, or terrain inspiration!!!!
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>>96534321
Link?
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>>96534159
Nice work anon, would play on.
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>>96533829
Chop up a dowel rod?
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>>96470521
Eh, 6 months to maximize the immuno stuff.
Formula from the jump is fine, though. Breast fed advocates mostly exist to keep it from dying out, but the truth is prior to formula tons of babies died from latching problems or other complications from breast feeding, and even into the neolithic there's evidence of humans expressing milk into animal skin to feed their babies. We've been beating nature for 10's of thousands of years.
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>>96480990
Why don't you see it? Because it's a fiddly pain to do (though I do love it).

But 6e pretty well supported buildings due to selling you fortifications. There's even rules for buildings with multiple parts.

RT had some neat rules around it, and one suggestion was to draw the interior of a building on graph paper and move the models to it or otherwise track movement on it as a way to deal with models going into interiors.

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>Previous thread:
>>96486075

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.


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Does anyone here have experience with wargamesfoundry Imperial Roman Legionaries? They look pretty dope but I can't find anything about them anywhere.
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How is Conquest? Looking to buy into it for my shop, got a few starters coming to build/paint/play. The roll low seems a bit weird, but w/e.
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What wargame is out there where I can field pic related?
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>>96535851
might want to ask in /hwg/? but also, what information do you want to know? pretty sure foundry are pretty bog standard metal sculpts, nothing surprising.
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>>96536159
>what information do you want to know?
Material, which you covered, general level of quality on the sculpts because the advertising images are tiny and their scale in comparison to other mini ranges.
I hadn;t thought of asking /hwg/ though, I'll do that now, thanks anon.

Previous Thread: >>96527238

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet

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>>96536003
No, because those cards are in my deck too
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>>96536003
Yes, because - even though those cards are in my deck too - you're not allowed to use them against me.
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>>96536003
no because im flashing in my own aven interrupter in response to stop it
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>>96535353
>TQ: What are your biggest pet cards or things you run in everything?
I will run this card in every red deck, its too fun to not
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>>96536153
>topdecks a land 5 times in the same game

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It is time
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>>96532733
What's that Emu up to? They're the real danger here
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>>96533820
Imma need some details, the doujin or the artist at least.
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>>96533550
Fuck I wish we were still like that. I miss it, a lot
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>>96529069
The joke is that what gms think is subtle is not, in fact, subtle.
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>>96529194
What on earth would you not have a simple screwdriver?

Why do most sci-fi settings sideline space combat but instead mostly focus on ground warfare?
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t. phoneposter
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nope, you lose
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if saying something made it so you'd actually be a woman. not the case unfortunately.
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seething transnigger lol
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seething pagpag eater lol

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For discussion of D&D 3.0 and 3.5e

> Tools
https://srd.dndtools.org
https://dndtools.one/
https://d20srd.org
https://www.realmshelps.net/

> Indices
> 3.5
https://archive.burne99.com/archive/4/
http://web.archive.org/web/20080617022745/http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/index.php
> 3.0
http://web.archive.org/web/20060330114049/http://www.crystalkeep.com:80/d20/rules3.0.php
> Book PDFs

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>>96535612
The fact that they need power attack in the first place is what made them worse.
In most systems you could just pump your strength, get a big weapon and that's enough to deal solid damage. In D&D you must have power attack and then preferably to also have ways of offsetting the attack penalty. Mind you PF isn't really better in that regard.
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>>96535651
monster AC did not scale that much so you always had plenty of bonus bab to power attack with
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>>96535651
Power attack & combat expertise should have been baked in combat options available to everyone & the weapon focus tree should be free to fighters
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>>96536109
Yes and yes.
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>>96536109
I have no fucking idea why Combat Expertise was a separate option from fighting defensively.

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>Party fighting monster in cave
>Hey DM are there any stalactites on the ceiling I can shoot to make them fall on the monster?
>Party fighting invisible enemy
>Hey DM is there any flour or other powder around I can use to throw at them?
>Party fighting flying enemy
>Hey DM is there a blanket or something lying around I can throw on them to weigh them down?
How about using the tools in your toolbox to solve the problem instead of asking me to magic up a solution?
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>>96535671
(You) JUMPSCARE LOOK OUT
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>deleted posts
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janny mad lol
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>>96514391
What are you bitching about? Many DMs would sell their souls for players that use their brains.
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>>96536134
lol yeah using your brains is when you just expect the GM to hand you a win

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>You NEED to follow canon
>Anyway if you question anything related to a popular head canon theory most online take as fact you are wrong
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>>96519790
>Trust me bro it's NECESSARY to have court cases that takes literal generations to resolve for the Imperium to survive Nurgle and Tzeentch totally don't get empowered by the suffering the administratum causes every minute of every day dude no way
You're confusing necessary with unavoidable unfixable dogshit.
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>>96533636
>You're confusing necessary with unavoidable unfixable dogshit.
They are the exact same thing in 40k.
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>>96528679
>Yeah m8 fantasy settings work like that. you fantasize what you’d be in the given setting. sometimes people like to stand in for a character close to what they are irl, its fun.

All fine. But that doesn't make the figments of you imagination your family or even warrant care about them. Because they aren't real.
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>>96502019
The constant debate over "Something's chasing the Tyranids!" or the "Tyranids were lured here by the Pharos!" when they're both single-source things that have never been mentioned since.

The longstanding Ork Logic bollocks where they parrot "They lose because they don't want to win!" and other such retarded statements, when they could just pick up the book and see its not rewriting reality, it's greasing its wheels.
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>>96535899
Yeah, while Pharos is what got the Tyranids' attention, what's REALLY attracting them is the Astronomicon.
Ironically, there's Tyranids very near Terra, the Genestealer malstrain from Necromunda. But, unlike the Ymgarl strain which are avoided and used as side-hoes, they refuse to even hear the Malstrain's call.

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5e < PF1 < 3.5e < PF2

Shrimple as that.
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>>96534710
those game mechanics predate 5e and my 6 month year old son will beat up your third grader with a gurisame . you cannot advance.
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>>96534949
2e is good beacuse of the depth of the different settings it offered. I find the rules to be pretty mid, though the metagame was healthier than later editions and that is worth a great deal.

>>96535007
Skill list are retarded 90% of the time. 3/4/5e type games have one players Autosolve the encounter most of the time, or feel terrible when they roll a 3 and someone who just dipped the ability rolls a 20. Without pedantic skill lists you get far more players engaging with a social encounter or dungeon room and I get to reward and punish my players appropriately for nonlinear thinking or general idiocy . I often finding myself saying 'you need to pick a lock give me int or dex' instead of ' who has trapfinding?'
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>>96534947
It didn't say it was bad, I said it is one of the traits of 5E D&D that the FFXIV RPG kept as it evolved out of a 5E setting hack into something a little more of its own thing.

>>96535090
You're retarded.
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>>96535640
yes but my son is deadly
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>>96508062
I don't think I've ever seen anyone under the age of 18 with tits bigger than their own head, but correct me if I'm wrong.

The /btg/ is dead! Long live the /btg/!

Ammo Explosion Edition

Last Thread: >>96511507
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>BattleTech Introductory Guide & PDFs
https://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400

>Overview of the Major Factions
https://bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houses
https://bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clans
https://bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powers

>Rookie Guides

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The dragon is gay.
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>>96535828
>Has been having children through heterosexual marriages for 600 years plus lots of bastards
You are mistaken. It is their arch-enemy, Clan Faguar that is the most gay.
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What are they smoking?
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>>96536090
Unironically retarded enough they don't need any help. Read Heretic's Faith.
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>>96536090

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>"IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT!!!"
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>>96532952
That's the catch 22, isn't it? When the sci-fi armour does cover up the wearer's mechanical replacement limbs, how can you tell that the wearer has mechanical replacement limbs?
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>>96534530
Pert isn't worthy to lick the dirt off of ferrus's boots.
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>>96534989
Chill, no need to lose your head about this.
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>>96531374
But the iron hand battle cry is "THE FLESH IS WEAK"
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>>96534530
I got it, just didn't comment when it came out, hoped someone like you'd be saying something funny for me to respond to.

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>play in 4 AD&D games a week
>stop caring about the hobby, becomes a way to pass the time
>drop down to 2 games
>start caring about OSR theory again, engage with the hobby critically and find renewed passion

Being nogames is kind of good, actually.
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>>96535518
>My system is so dogshit I need to carefully control every single thing my players can do to make it work.
LMAO
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>>96526231
Brain damage in action.
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>>96535540
wrong game bub

>>96535548
>leaving it up to chaos by making them select things based on labels and not contents
>somehow this is perfect control?
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nope right game I'm batman
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>>96536051
Yes anon, deliberately controlling the players access to information so they can't make informed decisions is controlling and manipulative behavior. As is forcing them to allocate points in a specific way instead of how the rules would allow. It's pretty pathetic that you need to hamfist shit together to even get through the starting point that is session 0.


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