>>96756991
>Sorry, I realized I hadn't actually posted the link to the new Doc
It happens. Thanks BTW!

>>96756991
Any major changes to >>96570050

>>96563345
How might one get players who are unfamiliar with this interested without them just decrying it as magical realm shit?

>>96766023
I removed shield mother, and replaced it with Lawbringer.

I've also cut out some of the extra, less tonally 'appropriate' subclasses to cut down on bloat.

Still need to add the Craving roll table and/or boons&banes in. If anyone has any more ideas for those, that'd be sick.

Might do a little more flavour text editing tonight as well, but fingers are utterly fucked from MMA.

>>96756449
>>96760767
I'm dubious atm about writing whole new rules, though I do very much like the idea of 'the really big, eldritch-empowered lady is just using herself like a battering ram'.
Any ideas on what subclasses or veteran classes could/should be repurposed? I've noted them down in the legend.

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>>96769096
Probably not going to happen, unless your players already have a preg fetish. Maiesta is kind of a hard sell for most people. With Nechronica you can at least lean into the horror aspect and a unique damage system where you lose body parts instead of HP, instead of focusing on all the PCs being zombie lolis, but aside from being one of the few games that make a summoner type class work, Maiesta doesn't really have much appeal outside of being the pregnancy RPG. Your best bet is probably try finding players on the official discord.

>>96770284
https://digimoncard.com/digimon_liberator/en/character/
If you click onto the Digimon on each of these it'll show their line as it appears in Liberator. You can click on any of their icons to go to their reference book entry.

They're not all new, Vemmon's is entirely pre-existing (but was only added to the reference book because of Liberator), some only have 1-3 new Digimon. Some like Maquinamon are yet to appear in the game still.

Let's say that, hypothetically, I was retarded and refused to play the floodgate rookies in a deck with Dark Animal as a base. What other rookies would I play, besides Goblimon?

>>96771298
What's the top end? Goblimon works great no matter what. Labramon as a 1-2 of to recycle anubismon can be helpful. Floodgates are good in the dark animal engine because it's easy to reuse them

>>96771330
Perhaps it is Leviamon, among other things that aren't nearly as good.

>>96770555
Vemmon isn't the only line to be entirely preexisting Digimon, there's also Omekamon/Omnimon X.

>>96771784
Hahaha yeah we're definitely not going to use that data for malicious purposes haha we'd never do something like hire the pinkertons over card leaks haha

>>96771784
It was like a 4 question process that lead directly to
>Tell us which content creator by name was being too negative
What other purposes did this have other than to find out who to sack and who not to

>>96769340
>>96770050
>>96770331
To all of (You) asking about the source it's from the leaked 2011 contract between Marvel and Sony Pictures Entertainment.

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>>96771784
>WotC staff member
>Flagrantly lies in the face of irrefutable contrary evidence and history
>Attempts to gaslight about how their extremely obvious, blatant and explicitly crystal clear to absolutely everybody actually meant something different.
Must be a day ending in y.
These people are such unbelievable textbook narcissists I am struggling to figure out how they managed to assemble so many examples of such a rare personality type in one place.

>In short, it's not a good question, BUT...
>It was actually YOU who are the problem for thinking it wasn't good!
>YOU should have known better. YOU should have trusted that we had good intents. It's YOUR fault for thinking the question was bad.
Fucking hell how do people this rotten even exist.

>>96771222
those who reply with anything other than on topic discussion are making the thread worse. Using language anything more flowery than "off topic" just wastes everyone's attention.
This. Trolls always claim they want to protect the thread from x nebulous threat when they're the ones that are ruining it.

>>96771751
Forgot my meme arrow >

Here's a 1st-level spell, intended to be roughly on par with Sleep and Charm

Transmogrify (The Artifice of Substance)
Level: 1 R: 30’ D: 1d6 turns +1/level AoE: one object or mundane unintelligent creature that can fit in a 1.5’ cube
Target becomes another object of comparable weight and size. Reverts to original form if touched by another creature, more than 30’ from caster, or if the caster wills it.

>trying to remake the b/x tables for a computer program
>realize there's no real formula to them, numbers inconsistent
like I can't just say Fighter.THACO = 19 - ((Math.Floor(level / 3) * 3)
I really don't want to have to manually write all these rows and columns, bros...

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>>96771816
>numbers inconsistent
Math pro tip: Anything set that is inconsistent over a small range can be reduced to a formula, provided you're willing to make it hideous. https://www.futilitycloset.com/2021/09/02/anscombes-quartet/
I bet with a bit of work you can come up with a formula that produces the correct output every time.

>>96771816
It's a table, just punch it in, nerdlinger.

This new combined chess championship seems interesting, though I fear that it might start supplanting the actual championship. The idea does stoke a (quite unrealistic) idea I've had for some time: a tournament where several chess-like games (either variants or even other nation's traditional versions, like shogi). Obviously the logistics of this would be nightmarish, and probably involve picking and counterpicking different games in a match (which would require players to play sets rather than single games all the time).

>>96767685
>fast time controls
>no Freestyle Chess
Totally Useless Tour

>>96767865
Honestly I think that Fischer Random has a bright future, if people are willing to embrace it. I think the main reason people hate classical is because people have done too much memorization.

Wesley vs Vincent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ka7Gxj_5qo

Checkmate felt like watching an esports event on twitch.tv in 2018. Much prefer the "classier" settings where there isn't mob of screeching apes but I did like the faster time controls.

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>>96771619
Well, fuck. Let's try that again with a less retarded airplane.

>>96771619
Fire bombers fight fires with those where I'm from. They're seaplanes with landing gear.

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>>96771199
If you look for /slop/ on 4plebs, sometime around September-October 2023, I think, I did a series of elf worlbuilding posts, presented as in-universe magazine articles. More their current situation than past history, but you might find them interesting.

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>>96771764
I'll have to look that up sometime. I arrived to /slop/ at the start of 2024, so I'd have missed that thread.

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>>96718565
This image is super cool.

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>>96771617
>it's not requiring a logistical benefit slot or an entire detachment
FOC juggling is the biggest sin of this edition

>>96771630
And it pays for it. You are paying, for example, 105 points for a predator with a volkite macro-saker and 2 HBs, and 195 for a deredeo with a volkite falconet, 2 HBs, and 1 s5 small blast (2 if stationary). And you are also paying for an entire command slot to give you a war engine.

I didn't say a deredeo couldn't accomplish things. I said its not worth the price you pay to do it.

>>96771692
And hell, let's be generous and give the predator another 5 points for a havoc launcher so it also throws out a s5 blast but this one is stunning

>>96771637
Honestly I thought it was going to be so much harder then it is. My squat army from 1.0 is back up an running with minimal purchases at 2K with 3 aux and one prime slot.

>>96771630
>invuln save

Against a lascannon a deredeo is wounded on a 2+. A predator takes wounds on a 4+. So AV13 is more protective than T7 2+/5++ save versus the most common AT weapon. The deredeo is better protected vs something like a krak missile or other high strength low AP weapons.

>>96760459
It definitely is. A CoC game isn't meant to be fighting otherworldly terrors all the time, it's about foiling cults of 90% man 10% fishman. You just grab the scary mythos creatures, the minor ones like Yithians, Mi-go, or Hounds of Tindalos to be whatever you want or you can make mundane creatures into other things, turn wolves into chupacabras or whatever.

>>96738706
But this thread is (allegedly) about running a "Dark Academia" game, & FPBP is right, just use CoC. You already know you want low stakes, it's up to the GM to keep them low, make guns rare, make only low damage weapons available. I don't know much about Gumshoe so I won't comment, but CoC is purpose built for playing professors or students investigating weird cults.

Overall though you said you want to run a game & I respect that you're trying to run something instead of begging for a game to play. So what I think you should do is really make what the students are studying important to the adventure. The killer wrote a note in Latin or Ancient Greek as a clue, or used a certain poison or method of killing the target only a biology student would know. It helps reinforce the setting, it makes the players feel extra special & useful because no one else in the party has that knowledge & it can help them narrow down the killer even if they don't get the clue, because now they have a rough guess of where the killer could be found searching through the university's departments or enrolled students.

>>96738706
What the fuck is dark academia? You study for exams but also your teacher is a vampire or some shit? Your car broke down and you have to walk to class, but it broke down because of a wizard? What is the difference between this and normal school?

>>96742550
Nobody has mentioned a system, how do you know the players will ever be powerful?

>>96747324
https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/145023/top-10-steampunk-games

>>96755241
So it's just school but rainy? That's supposed to be dark?

>>96735052
Unless nothing goes off the rails, they're fighting a fire elemental that is a narrative milestone, but I think I can integrate something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvIBOlyAViU

Shit! its in italian and I can't understand a thing,
https://youtu.be/QUBb3cUJdcY?si=ERpy_C6_YcwOF8jy

>>96767997
Not him, but your campaign sounds fucking rad. Glad you had fun. :)

I'll also throw my hat in the ring and mention Jong Henry Morgan, aka "The Thunderbolt of the South." He led a light cavalry regiment with a (very) light infantry detachment into Union territory, conducting lightning raids on outposts and supply lines. He made the furthest excursion into the North of any Confederate general, and nobody knows how the fuck his cav moved so quickly through heavy forests, or how his infantry kept up with his cav. Eventually, the Union was so terrified of the guy that instead of simply raiding his camp at night (once they found it), they sent men in stolen Greys, slit his throat as he slept, and took his command staff hostage as their company surrounded the area. Done dirty like Alexander, the fucking legend.

>>96770917
*John Henry Morgan, you fucking retarded device.

>>96770917
A real Erwin Rommel figure who got caught in some spec ops shit. Sounds cool, I'll crack open some Civil War books.

>>96771112
>Encouraging people to throw more dice and make the game more rocket taggy is good because... Why?
Because munchkins running around with 8 STR, 8 ADR and bardiches is bad, and forcing them to gamble more for decisive strikes or set things up is good. It encourages set ups like hook and trip because you can't just pull level 4 wounds on a single BS.

>Well anon, in the base game, yes. But with those changes, no. The best weapon for joint thrust becomes the Rondel Dagger, which does okay damage.
If you're using the revised rules, then you're reading it wrong. Because the Estoc and even regular spears are fine. The maneuver exactly specifies that you do it at reach S (or weapon reach if it's shorter). Which overrides the longer weapon reach, and it has the same activation cost rules as vanilla (IE, +1 per step over M). As the maneuver is written in revised, using an estoc even without halfswording is only a 5 activation cost to aim for a weakpoint from it's natural reach. Since the maneuver declares S reach. The rondel is only slightly better because you can use a TN 6 thrust to get into S while only worrying about regular reach costs. This only gets worse if you're targeting a location without a weakpoint (like an uncovered face or neck) because that reduces the activation cost to literally free with M weapons or shorter. If anything it obsoletes things like butt strike because it's an S reach maneuver.

>So it's... Joint thrust but you can't rely on it anymore?
Sure. This is a good thing. Joint thrust being reliable makes armor significantly worse than it should be when you can rely on it hitting the face.

>>96771177
>I mean, the better method is to just stick with TOU and let SDB be higher, so people aren't afraid of dying from papercuts.
No, it's not. TOU and high SDB just leads to the worst form of the game of people minmaxing what kind of armor they can beat with their chosen weapon and creating enormous disparities between weapons that are haves and have nots. See: Bardiche, DAxe, Iron Club vs small knife, two handed katzbalger, bar mace. You have next to zero reason to feel threatened by a small knife if toughness exists at all. Never mind if you add a single additional point of toughness or AV to the equation. SoS needs less damage, hell you were even saying plate was the only real valid armor option even back in the final published version; because a few weapons can treat it as if it's not there.

>>96771112
>The stun I suffered isn't actually comparable here, as you had to spend dice to deal it.
You also had to spend dice to avoid it, otherwise you'd be suffering a hell of a lot more than just 1 stun. If I hit at all, we broke even and still have initiative.

>And if you mean when comparing them to just trying to deal damage, you've basically offered zero rebuttal to what was proven, that they are objectively inferior to doing damage.
IF you can deal damage. Then yes, I can concede that if you're 100% guaranteed to deal damage on any hit at all then it is superior to deal damage. But unless you're hyper optimized or in a tournament setting where you can always lug around a two-handed meta weapon with you at all times, it's not a guarantee. If your 1-2 BS damage isn't enough to wound however then you're doing literally nothing. At least a 1 BS, failed tripping hook attempt results in the opponent losing a single die.

>>96771177
>Because munchkins running around with 8 STR, 8 ADR and bardiches is bad
And making them even better is good... Because...?

>It encourages set ups like hook and trip because you can't just pull level 4 wounds on a single BS.
No, actually. It encourages you to go much more for pure damage because those options still suck.

>If you're using the revised rules, then you're reading it wrong.
I don't think I am, no.
>Because the Estoc and even regular spears are fine.
No, they are not.
With a regular spear, you suffer from an AC of +3, plus another +4 from Reach, THEN +2 from Joint Thrust, for +11 cost in total. That's quite a massive cost, and in Revised? Unusable.
With an Estoc, you need to Half-sword it, or you're at +1, +2, and +5 total, which is also far too much to stomach.

If you somehow find yourself losing when the opponent gives you a massive advantage, sorry, you have a skill issue.

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>>96771280
See, stun from Hook, Disarm, and other things sucks because it's derived from BS. This isn't so great because you will need to spend more dice to get more stun off, which defeats the purpose.
The only exception is during low dice exchanges, like if you rolled a disarm with 1 dice and I Swing at you for 1. If you succeed, my swing is stopped instantly because the stun eats its die.
Though notice, due to the Activation Cost disarm has to pay, you're still losing out, even then. And if I really wanted to screw you, I would just declare a kick to your groin for as many dice as needed, because you can't disarm feet.

>IF you can deal damage.
And why wouldn't I?

>Then yes, I can concede that if you're 100% guaranteed to deal damage on any hit at all then it is superior to deal damage.
Actually, it's superior if you're guaranteed to deal a wound even starting at 2 BS. The only time it becomes less optimal to go for damaging attacks is if your odds of causing a wound fall into the <20% range.

>But unless you're hyper optimized or in a tournament setting where you can always lug around a two-handed meta weapon with you at all times, it's not a guarantee.
Sure it is. It's more guaranteed in your system than ever before, since you have effectively given everyone -3 AV. Now, not only am I almost always in a position to cause wounds on 1 BS, it's even easier and more sensible to make sure my fighting man can do so.


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>>96771505
It was going to be a character originally from one of the dragonblooded families too. So I needed a reason for why they were kind of a weirdo compared to others of their family and other details.

I never got to play in the game, though. After the ST had a meltdown at me about my character, I decided to go for a lunar exalted as something much easier to bs a backstory for. Which everyone was ALL FOR. No weird questions. No being yelled at. Easy to vet with the ST. When I started asking for tips on how to build one properly, they got super weird and banned me from the game.

I didn't play any tabletop games for a long time after that.

>>96769520
>If I throw enough word salad I can pretend like posts from at least three different people calling me dumb are all the same person!!!
You've lost.

>>96771586
>can't read
lol

>>96771464
>These days I write a 1 sentence concept that I then expand to three sentences to tell the DM. The rest I make up as I go and just say shit to other characters when details become relevant.
I do pretty much the same thing. I'll start with a general idea of a character in my head that I'll iterate over again and again until I have a solid idea of who and what the character is. I'll even try to find a songs to fit the general vibe of the character I'm going for. It helps narrow things down as I'm work-shopping the character.
They only time I went overboard on a character's backstory I never showed it to the DM because I wasn't going to show him a four page backstory that mostly went over one moment of my character's life and wasn't relevant to the campaign.
If I'm handing something to the GM, I'll make sure it sticks to 1 paragraph at a maximum and/or just a list of bullet points of things that are important or that the GM can use a hooks.

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>>96771567
It's sad when a bad group turns people away from the hobby completely. Sorry you had to go through that. Did you ever find a good Exalted group to play with?

>>96768806
>"muh ebic oversized everything"
what setting(s) are you even talking about

>>96770798
Are you fucking retarded? You know what he speaks of, you disingenuous twat. The fantasy of today is overly artsy and weird.

>>96770831
don't fucking tweet at me with that attitude bitch tits.
Now I'll give you one more try before I just fucking lose it and obliterate you with my mind. WHAT FUCKING SETTING.

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>>96766205
IT'S SEXY!

>>96768806
That's a flying eyeball that shoots magic lasers.

>>96771356
Seems unlikely, the only time I go to Missouri is to collect change from the gumball machines I own there

>>96771279
There's a second coinfag in this general? I thought I was the only one. I just use generic aftermarket metal coins my local game store carries.

>>96771477
They're so much lighter and feel cheap, though

>>96771542
Yeah, but I'm not dumping actual silver into a board game box. Too much money involved, I'd rather keep it safe and hidden away.

coins? old and busted
chips? played out
plaques? too nouveau
I'm going to make a set of board gaming taels.

>>96771588
Lancer
Mechwarrior
Mecha vs Kaiju
Mekton
Robotech
Mech Nior
Mech Hack
Mech Star

All of these have very recent editions.

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>>96771577
What, you didn't like the Dark Crystal?

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>>96771582
Still, half of the rules should be about being sneaky and if they are successful it'll be anticlimactic.

>>96771632
I've run Spycraft and other infiltration-centric campaigns and it's really not a problem in the way you're describing. Stealth is fun when the party's plan goes off without a hitch, AND when your players end up in rolling gunfights with the Connecticut state police

the problem with Spycraft is that prep was absurdly involved, both for the GM and the players

>>96771712
>the problem with Spycraft is that prep was absurdly involved, both for the GM and the players
I'd imagine that in actual play would be multiple sessions of planning and recon and one session of actual mission.