Does anyone else feel like the Byzantine Empire is the closest thing human-kind had to an Elven civilization analogy during our actual history's middle ages? Or am I crazy?Even the part where their highly advanced culture was eventually wiped off the face of the Earth and forgotten in most normie perceptions of history.
>>97224471Elves only grow testicles during the mating season, like eels
>>97222151>Even the part where their highly advanced culture was eventually wiped off the face of the Earth But Turkey still exists
>>97222151>This thread once moreFind.New.Material.
>>97222151DUDE I just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big polis, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favorite Acritic songs. you should totally come on down to my courtyard villa, it’s got EXPOSED ASHLAR BLOCK walls and everything, we can tap open a Cretan muscat or the whole amphora and get crazy watching some torchlight processions on Apokreas! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the Hippodrome- listen here, right, it’s a stadium where us ROMAIOI who do our civic duty can go watch CHARIOT RACING. BUT!!!! it’s also an POLITICAL FORUM like when we were GREEN senators, so we RIOT and FIGHT the BLUES, without dumb quaesitores bothering us. speaking of which Paraskeva and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re tying our prayer ropes this evening and becoming monks! that way we can save denarius to spend more on our piety and our ICONS . i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this Retsina and pop open another one!!!
>>97222182the byzantines would fit all of these.
Do you prefer playing anti-heroes or just straight up heroes?
>>97227592heroes
>>97228909This is the cultural vibe for the last 30ish years. It swings back and forth though. iirc Human Male Fighter was the most common BG3 option.
>>97228909I thought Han Solo was trash, until he stepped up to save the Galaxy and fought for something other than money.
>>97227592More like travis cuckle!
>>97227592Heroes.
Why is it that so many fantasy writers make their evil cults unjoinable by anyone with a functioning brain cell? Like why would you worship Orcus, whose goal is omnicide? Why would you worship Tzeentch if he’s probably gonna screw YOU over as part of his grand plan?What makes it so bizarre to me is that, firstly, it’s not like they need to be so off-putting to be evil. Orcus is a demon of undeath, his followers want to turn their enemies into the undead. Tzeentch wants the world to be in a constant cycle of chaos, his followers are gonna be masterminding world wars.Secondly, it’s not like we don’t have plenty of examples of real-world evil cults. A lot of cults in the West don’t follow Super-Duper-Mega-Murder Satan, but are fucked-up offshoots of Christianity. Historically, goetia was practiced by people who would’ve still called themselves Christians, while committing rituals to summon and get boons from demons. Plenty of human cultures used to sacrifice humans to their gods, not to summon them to kill everyone or some shit, but to honor and/or appease them.Like to use another example from Warhammer, I think Nurgle and Khorne present more “approachable” evil cults. Nurgle is toxic positivity, and his love will take all the pain away. Khorne is wrapped up in enough language about honor to lure people in.Like to rework an evil deity, let’s pick Lamashtu. Instead of “We love ugliness and miscarriages and also you get to die in childbirth”, the cult targets vulnerable young women and lures them in with divine feminine language (“You have the power to bear and raise great beasts”), while promising the young men of monstrous races frustrated living among humans that what they’re scorned for is what makes them powerful (and also they get to have sex with pretty girls).
>>97207062No they don't . They believe themselves in the right to do what they do (ergo not evil.)
>>97207451>Reasonable Cultists>worship Chaos Undivided as the heart of mankind's virtue>worship Khorne as a god of honor and justice>worship Slaanesh as a god of love and beauty>worship Nurgle as a god of life and empathy>worship Tzeentch as a god of hope and creativity>manage to summon daemons aligned with those aspects of the gods>Imperium comes to purge their homeworld, is confronted with Bloodthirsters laying their lives down to protect the helpless, Daemonettes inspiring men to fight for their families, Plaguebearers delivering emergency medical aid, and Horrors keeping everyone's morale up>Exterminatus is called>this is worse than a normal demon incursion by far
>>97229119>reasonable>wh40kPick one
>>97229119>LLM trained on plebbit data made this poast
>>97229134Hey! There are some reasonable people in 40k! It's like less than 10 in the entire galaxy...
>>97171444 >What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, HeroClix,Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, SAGA, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void,Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Any interesting releases recently ? Anything fun on the horizon ?
>>97230965I'm quite excited about victrix expanding their medieval range. Fingers crossed for mongols and byzantines! WGA might also release some interesting kits. Hopefully more iron-core minis.
>>97231190>I'm quite excited about victrix expanding their medieval range.Personally I am waiting for arab horse archers.
>>97229989The fireball is also a direct upgrade to the Large Catapult since it's not subject to the triangulation and variation rules and just goes where you want it.The lightning bolt isn't so much of a direct upgrade to the Heavy Field Gun, since although it has the same witch and isn't subject to the variation measure and firing dowel black/white bounce modelling shit, and can indirect fire to get around terrain obstacles, it only hits 6" of its range instead of the 22" (white) or 14" (black) of the standard HFG.Interestingly, I think original Chainmail is the only game in the entire Chainmail/D&D line where those spells support indirect fire, everywhere else they are solely linear.
>>97231541>The fireball is also a direct upgrade to the Large Catapult since it's not subject to the triangulation and variation rules and just goes where you want it.>Year of THAC0 + 50>Not making the wizard roll an accuracy check
>They were never an actual threat to the world because the literal God of the world and his angels would never let them win. Do you cuck your dark lord on purpose or give them an actual fighting chance in your game?
>>97230350>>>/lit/
>>97231199Move it, then. Oh wait, you're not a jannie are you, Wilbur?
>What kind of name is Wilbur?
>>97227404It really irritates me that the books treat both Morgoth and Sauron as non-issue pushovers. The idea of them being doomed to lose and good winning is fine, but that's an omniscient cosmological view. The actual characters should consider them pretty terrifying bad guys, but Morgoth is literally laughed at by the other Valar and bullied and Sauron is punked on by a dog and Gandalf treats fighting him and destroying the ring as urgent as having afternoon tea. It saps any tension the narrative might have otherwise, and it's one thing the movies did better imo, especially with the Ring.>movie: gandalf finds the ring, oh fuck oh shit frodo you need to get out of here, this is dangerous shit, even i shouldn't touch this, it's too powerful>book: gandalf finds the ring, oh wow so interesting anyway pass me the pipeweed frodo, i'm gonna crash at your place for a year and chill out, the ring's no big deal it can wait, last time sauron had it he lost anyway (this is without exaggeration literally how it goes in the book)They go on to take it to Tom Bombadil who acts like it's just a worthless piece of tin and laughs about it, then to Elrond who suggests maybe someone should destroy it and Glorfindel says it's not worth his time and he can't be bothered to so Frodo volunteers via mind control by Gandalf. Also without exaggeration what happens in the book. The writing is much worse than most people realize.
>>97231498Did you ask a chatbot for that, because it's wildly inaccurate.
Moloch's Fun Park Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online:https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97221645Actually it is more historical. It the old Rus' times it was named Kyev. After tha fall of Rus due to Mongol invasion "ikavism" appeared in Ukrainian language, so "e" changed to "i": Kyiv, when the city was under The Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Rzeczpospolita. "Kiev" is a modern name of the city from Russia under imperial times. So for "the principality of" it is more accurate to have Kyiv or Kyev, there are more authentic vibes.
>>97209214>and it makes them look like assholeshow though?
Idk if this was intentional or just a coincidence about the worldbuilding but while reading up on Islam for a college project I came across thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniconism_in_IslamCreating paintings or sculptures of living beings is already a contentious topic in the Muslim faith, with some believing that by doing so you’re imitating and/or challenging god’s sacred authority as the creator of life. So what the Sultanate is doing with their homunculi and alchemical fuckery would be considered RIDICULOUSLY blasphemous. I know people have complained about the game walking on eggshells with Islam by not making the Iron Sultanate too grimdark in comparison to the Christian factions, but I haven’t seen anyone bring this up?
Church of metamorphosis is cool what could the gameplay be
>>97231387Iirc Tuomas said they evolve during the match, or that is the plan for them.
Christmas edition▶What is Kingdom Death?Kingdom Death is a tabletop miniature brand stared by Adam Poots and operated by himself and his Team that later spun off into a miniature based bored game funded by two very successful Kickstarter campaigns.▶What is Kingdom Death: Monster?Monster is a Nightmare Horror cooperative boss battler/miniature hobby game for 1-4 players about hope in a strange world of bizarre monstrosities and perpetually darkness. Players take on the role of survivors that band together to form a settlement, fighting monsters, crafting weapons and gear, and developing their civilization to ensure survival from generation to generation.Prologue Narration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLc8dHv0AcThe Game is broken up into 3 phases:1. During your Hunt Phase your band of survivors traverse the world of KD in pursuit of their quarry.2. After successfully tracking your quarry you will begin the Showdown Phase, where you must fell these horrific creatures in order to acquire precious resources.3. After the battle, your survivors wander home with loot in hand to begin the Settlement Phase. Arm yourself by developing new weapons and bizarre structures to prepare for next year's hunt.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97227468You don't
>>97230602>level 2 lion is one of the hardest level 2s in the gamelmao what.
>>97230794>If you can't tank 2 damage per round you instantly LOSEfucking hell anon
>>97230989>gorm>survival actionBro the lvl2 Gorm will just vomit on you and there's nothing you can do about it. The card does not have a flow.
>>97231483I like Pariah eating the White Speaker. Or Dark Secret.
The Three Emperors EditionPrevious thread:>>96939608>Thread Question:Do you plan any big projects for the next year already?>Community Summary of Wargames:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11JoUpGIRDp5DZdgJ24rijKHgyY-qvvR5QnVtHIp57Tw/edit?usp=sharing>List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R>ZunTsu Gameboxes:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97229995Your Cleopatra posts are the best contributions on /hwg/ since the red pants posts.You bring so much to our community that you absolutely must continue.
>>97230023Perry has the best poses but I think Victrix has better sculpts.
Evening lads. Is there a pdf of the 3rd edition Bolt Action rules floating about? I checked the mediafire above but it's just 1st & 2nd
>>97230976Victrix Napoleons are their absolute worst kits, have zero options, and the sculpts are not good at all.
>>97230976>Victrix>better sculptsVictrix fanbois really are retarded.>>97228585No, that was zimmeritt's job. The concrete was for extra protection, some US tank units used it too.>>97229613Skirmish or battle lines? Any rules that work in 15mm/28mm etc. will work.
Vista edition>Cyberpunk 2020 vs. Cyberpunk RED?Cyberpunk 2020 is the second edition of the Cyberpunk TTRPG that focuses on simulation gameplay and has a black trenchcoat aesthetic.Cyberpunk RED is the fourth edition of the Cyberpunk TTRPG that is set after Cyberpunk 2020 following the Fourth Corporate War, focuses on more balanced gameplay and is more streamlined but has less content.You can discuss Shadowrun here too because I also feel bad for those guys.>Cyberpunk Rulesets (The Vault) (May not have all updated rulebooks, check official sources for updates):bit<dot>ly/2Y1w4Md>Resources for RED:https://datapool2045.net/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97229011Depends entirely on the person. I like 2e because shadowrun, to me, will always be the early 90s roc paperbacks. I've also heard good things about 4th/5th. It seems like the most recommended is 20th anniversary.Anarchy 2e looks promising, as well, if you're down for a more narrative game.
>>97228904Ah, yes, how dare they make the referee have to come up with interesting things.
>>97227060Seems like it got pushed to the new year, considering they're going on break now.
>>97227663You should check out the 4th Corporate War books from 2020 in >>97200207. Obviously the corps aren't allowed to go that all-out anymore but it could inspire you. My favorite cyberpunk ™ corporate job is employee extraction (very rarely the target actually does want to work for you!). It can get extra dicey if you're forced to extract the target's family from the company dorms or you can challenge your players morals when they find out the target is actually fine starting fresh and abandoning his family, probably to the streets. You can also go nuts with the corp's defenses. The 4CW had stuff like concealed turrets that would pop out of the walls to defend against AV's flying around.What corporation does your crew want to run for? Or which corporation looks like the most fun for you?
>>97230424FUCK!
Mondstille Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
army for this feel?
>>97231507Orcs and goblins.
>>97231446And I retcon your ability to retcon>>97231507Renegade Crowns sellswords without a Might of Miragliano character.
>>97231446>>97231536As a pope I excumunicate you two.
>>97230894A whole lot of warhammer lore got written with wfrp 1e, you can look at whfb 1e and 2e in the op to see how bare it was before. As for now, it's well known there are countless minor gods everywhere in the Empire, almost every village and river has some kind of protector god.
>Brutus' Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDYVVpbllIREdOczg?resourcekey=0-m3LU1xaC5-PnnA0VLRfK9g>DriveAnon's Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cx7KoDkQa9qmDfJN9_CehZ0fxXEweKOu?usp=sharing>Jumpchain IRC Chathttp://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA>Ruleshttp://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn>How to Jumpchainhttp://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVDFBR2NpdG03S0U/viewComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97230987May I suggest the humble light of terra?
>>97230987Hellstar Remina technically fits all of those characteristics
>>97230987Norse Myth has it all, but it won't be a cheap build.
>>97230987Viking Saga
>>97230987That's pretty much most power fantasy jump.
Holiday EditionDiscuss and post elves. Elf lore, gameplay, and art are all appreciated.QOTT: What are some of the best gifts to give elf-lovers? What gifts would you give to lovers of other races/species/ancestries/whatever?
Sorry for the non-reply
>>97230588We prefer Human'd around here.
>>97230236>What are some of the best gifts to give elf-lovers? What gifts would you give to lovers of other races/species/ancestries/whatever?the answer is always just fucking gift cards or cash these days
>>97231104Did we ever determine why vampirism seems to turn humans into elves?>Makes your ears and facial features pointier>Tremendous increase in lifespan>Turns you permanently smug and snobbish
Wasted Edition▶Previous thread:>>97108804Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, Kill Team, Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim, Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds, Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster ...... and any other GW system and board game are welcome.▶Helpful resources: (feel free to suggest additions!)https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0V▶TQComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97229419I like the miniature game montage battle reports since he actually puts a bit more effort into them to make them seem narrative even though I'm pretty sure it's just a dad and his kid playing multiple gangsthe other big necromunda youtubers are too obsessed with click bait and tier lists
>>97221939thanks, I've been mainly painting them but here's an extra dude I made out of boredom
>>97228500I like it!
>>97222025Eldar Corsair were the common name for the standard Eldar fleet.
>>97231057Wait so Craftworld Eldar was a different fleet then? God damn it has been so long since I looked at the BFG rulebook, Armada, or any of the Specialist magazines. That does remind me I still have a whole Ork fleet still in the packaging I should get around to building.
I feel like this edition has alot of objectively bad things about it and is absolutely where the alot of worst qualities of current editions showed up. But I feel like I prefer playing this edition compared to a lot of previous editions and 10th edition. Its a weird transitional period where there's still a lot of the old units that haven't been legended yet while still having the fucking Primaris lot. Its strange but I don't feel like I'm missing out on much staying on this edition and playing with friends casually instead of going back to playing the current edition.
I enjoy playing some Index era 8th casually from time to time, it feels a bit like core book 3rd and as long as you aren't dealing with WAAC tournament grinders (which nobody still playing 8th should be having to deal with) it is a very fun way to play the game as far as Modernhammer editions go. I still mostly play 2nd, a little 3rd and 5th but Index 8th is the newest form of the game to exist in my rotation and I don't see that changing for a long time.
>>97217254>Least delusional Eldar playerI remember 3rd was when the delusional BS started, online all Eldar players were discouraging everyone from playing them as they were for advanced players only when all they did was stick starcannons on everything.Saying 7th taudar was only dominant a short time or that it was only as bad as necrons is pure delusion. 1000pts of taudar can easily table 2000 pts of necrons. You could even table 5000 pts of orks
>>97186108Me and my pal recently bought all the index books for like £25 and plan on going back to 8th. I don't care what anyone says, 8th is peak 40k FUN
>>97227233Oh dear, did babby get his fee-fees hurt? Go on, tell the class which you are: buttblasted senile oldfag, or screeching nuhammer fetus?
>>97223251You can say that about most editions
>>97211865how would a rogue prevent a monster from attacking a caster?
>>97230466Now here's a thought:What if, on the image board for discussing tabletop games, we actually talked about things relevant to tabletop games?What if, in this thread with people who didn't get a satisfactory answer from a gay frogposter, we talked about ways a rogue-type character could adopt the role of a "tank" to protect a caster-type character in a given game?That way, this thread would have a reason to exist beyond baiting faking board activity; we could actually have an on-topic discussion on the traditional games board for once.How does that sound?
>>97230466No. Answer the question.
>>97229548BELIEVE IT!>In b4...yeah. State your system and setting and give a specific scenario.
>>97231040Well, there's the issue right there; this thread is predicated on unanswered questions in regards to a gay frogposter's likely fake scenario that didn't provide a game or hardly any context to begin with.All we ("we" as in, those of us with interest in this topic) have to go on is it's supposedly a game, and has at least rogues and casters as character options, and features hostile monsters.
>>97229548WTF is the OP's pic supposed to be of?
