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>>499791619delete this
>>499791619I don't get it.
>>499791619now let's see some assemblers
>>499791619
>>499791619gursed
>>499791864Proof that diagonal belts are superior.
>>499792739But we already knew that. Right Anon?
>>499792739why dont wube make diagonal belts then
Are you supposed to make shitty yellow ammo for turrets on the platforms themselves? Restocking ammo between travels is what is demanding most of my rocket launches.
>>499793419Engine limitation.
>>499793697yes
>>499778261We ended up with them simply because they asked us first (would have been a bit rude to say "no" then organise the same team without them), but in the future I could ask the thread for tag team ideas. E.g. us, /indie/ and some similar 'collective' generals (...are there any others?) to make '/ded/' or something.
>>499791619Makes sense, a diagonal has to travel 33% less than a straight linebut the use case for this is minimal
>50 red ammo weights 1 tonWhat the fuck is this wube
>>499791619>anon discovers that sqrt(2) is less than 2
>>499796392big fucking bullets for big fucking targets
>>499718472that's ironic, coming from someone like you
>>499798985wow I can't believe I had managed to get that entire discussion filtered without even noticing, back to ignoring it entirely
bagged a worm. Wasn't so tough against imported uranium tank rounds.
>>499799975>bespoke artisanal legendary depleted uranium ammo rounds
So if you use quality ammo you make more damage?You can use legendary uranium rounds for max damage?
>>499799975worm not so tough after eating family atomics
>>499800423>family atomicsCan't bring nukes into spess but we got the next best thing :^)
>>499800269unfortunately, these ones were factory-made. I haven't fucked with quality yet, except for a brief venture where they clogged my belts and I couldn't be fucked to filter them.
>>499796392>Factorio turrets are bolters
Finally getting artillery feels so fucking good man.
Mental hospital cannot stop me.Government cannot stop me.God cannot stop me.I put a lid on Crater Lake.
>>499802060got them marshall islands vibes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5qJTWhNtb8&t=12s
big brain uranium
>>499806538You're going to need 10 thousand of the stuff, anon
So what's the deal with Gleba and why does everyone hate it? Gleba is what I was the most interested in out of the new planets, I love alien ecosystems/biology and Gleba is the only one that is comparable to Nauvis when it comes to that. Giant magma works are cool, but that has nothing on five limbed spidercrab freaks living on some sort of swamp planet.
SA is fucking cool and im glad to be alive to play it.
>>499806880new and improvedalso the pipe changes don't really seem to be a big deal as far as long ghetto pipes gojust slap a pump at the start and you're golden
>>499809074yeah people usually just kind of bring that by train since you're gonna create pollution and will end up needing protection anyway
>>499809309I know I've done it before, just being lazy since I don't have space age train blueprints setup yet
>>499809427why do you need a train blueprint fora fucking double headed train for ore and a tank
>>499809309I just use elf modules in miners, the cloud barely moves.
>>499809646to tie into my train network ofcplaying railworld
>>499791619does this prove that factorio has diagonals?
>>499809718That's only because they buffed the shit out of terrain pollution absorption now also centrifuges cause pollution too anon
>>499810448elfed that shit up
I like the new graphics but all my mods are for 1.1 :(Is there a way to update the graphics without actually updating
What are foundries worth using for outside of vulcanus?
>>499810868>what is 50% productivity useful if not for the place with infinite oreuhhh
>>499811185Well fuck im retarded and missed that.
>already 26 hours in>finished 480MW nuclear setup so factory finally stopped having brownouts>all surface sciences set up but no space stuff>not enough smelting for research/productionI feel like I'm the slowest motherfucker on the planet, I don't know how people go into space in a few hours
>>499812354It's fine
>>499812354>I don't know how people go into space in a few hoursBlueprints for literally everything.
>>499812354I mean, its a lot easier to send rockets out now. The real time sink to me is setting up the base so it doesn't get raped by bitters while you're out. If you're playing peaceful mode you can probably blast off in a couple of hours.
>>499791619Squiggle bros ensure their science packs arrive on time and fresh while right angle cavemen eat spoiled goo.
>>499812354rockets are super cheap now, you can do white science before yellow or purple
is this any good?
>>499812354I'm at fifty on my second planet. Some afk time or fiddling with tiny little improvements that will be irrelevant later on. Making sure nauvis was well protected meant I only had to remote pilot a tank a single time during that.
>>499813053Its fun and relaxed. Its more of a puzzle game mixed with belts.
>>499813208seems comfyI see it's still EA, how complete is it in terms of content?
>>499813676Honestly if they said it was the complete game i would've believed it. The only thing that felt missing for me were achievements.
>>499813676its a finished game just missing some train qol and models for the space pipes
>>499813824>>499814082nicei'll check it out, thanks for the info
>>499814205devs are busy playing factoriohttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2162800/view/4520017657931497493
>>499812354It's not a race unless you make it one. If you wanna challenge yourself about it, find your bottlenecks and work through them. Automate early and make intermediaries stockpiles in the earlygame (they're generally a noob trap but a little bit helps)You can bootstrap automate a lot of stuff to cut hours if you want
>>499803569Maybe that's how this bean learned to surf on trains. The radiation... changed it.
Fell asleep at my computer yesterday and ended up accidentally finishing mech armor and bot speed 8 by the time I'd woken up. Was so tired I just immediately went to bed despite it.All that's left to do is set up the platform and I'll be heading over to Gleba, leaving Fulgora after 50 hours.>>499783637Sorry, I should've specified. I can't use that option because if I do then the machine sometimes gets stuck in a loop where it switches between wanting to craft two different items and if the chest is set to trash unrequested then it ends up with the bots constantly shuffling the same items around with the machine not getting the ingredients to craft anything, which causes it to get stuck. I ended up getting rid of it anyways because it was barely functional.
>>499815176>fell asleep>so tired I went to bed
Can you even fuck around with quality before recyclers? Seems like too much of a hassle.
Call Dosh, I want him to see this.
>>499816574just post it on his discord
>>499816574is that a craft anything setup? Clever girl.
>>499796992>anon gets thrown overboard and drowns
>>499817052The artillery wagon is the counter too.
I'm losing my mind on Gleba. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GENERATE POWER ON THIS PLANET???
>>499816574>dead nigger storageI look forward to a fully operational battle galaxy.
>>499817405Can't you burn everything in a boiler?>>499817405
>>499818307Most things can but they don't burn for shit. An entire blue belt of spoilage feed 1, maybe 2 boilers. Just saw that you can make rocket fuel from Jelly so maybe that's the solution? I'm gonna try it out
>>499818625You could also park a platform overhead and ship carbon down.
>>499806932I imagine the reason is because of a few factors: 1) spoilage is just bad to think about, it's literally wasting resources2) you already have infinite resources from Vulcanus You actually don't, you're limited on calcite deposits, unless you want to import calcite from asteroids, but then just use the infinite resources from asteroids3) it's the only other planet with attaching enemies and pollution like Nauvis, meaning you have to deal with securing two base perimeters instead of one4) content creators already poo-pooed it, and nobody has an original thought.
>>499816574>do you see a sign on this platform that says dead nigger storagei should hurry up and get to space already
>>499817405are heat towers researched or auto unlocked? their efficiency is way higher than just boilerslooking over the options, each raw jellynut is 10MJ, so putting those in heat towers should be pretty solid
>>499816574Okay but what does it do?
Experiment successful. Big round multilevel train depots are entirely viable. And it only takes 2-4 hours to build one that's ~160 meters in diameter.
>>499821175https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Universal_Constructor
>>499821152Didn't realize those were so effective. Might be a good idea to combine that with my rocket fuel from jelly idea. For now I'm just getting the fuck off this planet I hate it here.
>I'll just kill some biter nests and expand a bit>haha how about FUCK YOU>RETALIATING HORDES>NO YOU CAN'T CLAIM THIS ORE PATCH YOU JUST CLEARED HERE'S 15 OTHER SUICIDE SQUADS FROM 20 OTHER BITER NESTSI am starting to understand just how deep the shit I am in at the moment might beAt higher evo, rampant just stops fucking around, periodI was trying to claim the entire area north of my base because it has a lot of easily defensible cliffs but the "easily defensible part" is getting me shreddedI'm just gonna capture this ore patch and defend it with my teeththis is ridiculous
>>499791361I'm a long time player but only launched once, usually get bored / afk after Blue sci.Is the meta to rush bots? I feel like it must be what I'm missing
>>499791361does that work
>>499824661In a sense.
>>499823613Bots are where I get bored. I almost wish they didn't exist.
>>499823613Construction bots are probably the most game-changing technology there is.
I can't use inserters to put shit into rocket silos anymore? Do I HAVE to use robots?
>Infinite ore>Easy trashing anything>Foundries for giga productivity>Materials for turbo beltsThinking about turning vulcanus into one big high quality belt/splitter factory.
>>499826198why do you want hq belts
>>499826359Wait do they not get faster?
>>499826468nah
>>499826198CHEATER
Did the spengies interior turret always require you to manually reload it? Am I having a Mandela by remembering you could hook it up to a connector?
>>499829001>Did the spengies interior turret always require you to manually reload it?It's always been like that. There might be a modded version out there that can accept tubes but by default yes you really have to basically breech load every turret. It's why I never use the fucking things.
>>499829001Yeah. It's for small scale use not putting 100s on the side of a brick.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8tt8_dA4W4Try other guns to defend your corridors, they work pretty good.
Spagette
>first weekend>couldn't break 6 figuresit's over. imagine playing a game with less than 100k ATH
>>499831134Next DLC will break 200k
>>499829001Always, the base is also smaller than a conveyor tube
>>499831747>it's also another 35$imagine the seethe
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5qJTWhNtb8Just imagine being our local Satisfactory defense force tranny. You devote hours upon hours to combat all naysayers, coming up with "clever" arguments such as "stop comparing it to the other game", and then this video gets uploaded.If I was him, I'd kill myself desu, now that my life has lost its meaning.
>>499832936This is the perfect example of why a few Factorio autists ruin this thread.Look, I posted this:>>499803936HOURS AGO, I posted a timestamped link to the Satisfactory video praising Factorio and telling their players to go show Space Age some love, because I thought it was sweet.Then your subhuman ass waddles in hours later and posts with some sub-0 IQ whining and bitching about a strawman that doesn't exist. No Satisfactory player says the game isn't based on Factorio. It's always retards like you claiming that Satisfactory is "nothing like" Factorio in an attempt to dismiss it or even get it removed from the general.But, again, the main thing to notice here is that when a Satisfactory player linked that video, they did it out of goodwill, and when the inbred piece of shit that is obsessed with Satisfactory despite claiming to like Factorio more posts the video, they do it to troll and shitpost.It's been said many times in recent weeks: Every time there's any shit flinging in this thread, it always starts with a Factorio player being retarded and starting shit. The rest of you need to keep your retarded dogs on leashes if you don't like wasting 50-100 replies of every thread on this shit.
>>499836021Boy, you're pathetic.
>>499836021They're secretly /b/tards passing as /v/ posters, so this behavior is to be expected. Trust me I would know.
>>499836021first time on the internet? Try meds.
>>499836861>they are [under the bed boogeyman] and couldn't possibly be /egg/men, this is my safe space echo chamber!
>>499836021calm down /fag/got
Radar-based train logi is not an early game strat
>>499836021>I just posted a link without any description and nobody cared>>499836861kill yourself posthaste tranny
>>499806932>So what's the deal with Gleba and why does everyone hate it?Circular dependencies that can collapse jamming your entire factory due to a spoil in the one place you missed. Can't see where you can place buildings or not without hovering a ghost over it. Pentapods. You need to breed pentapod eggs for science but they hatch in 15 minutes so if anything stops you have to go and farm another one plus fix all the things the hatchlings broke. The cool production building needs nutrients which expire in around two minutes. Almost all the new items spoil. The mash/jelly you need to make nutrients also spoils, and so does the nuts/fruit. While everything burns, none of it has decent fuel value and solar isn't great. If all your fruit spoils you lose the seeds might have to go exploring for more.I haven't been so pleasantly annoyed since the ultracube mod.
why is rocket parts 2/3rds of yellow
>>499836347picrel>>499837142I expect slightly, slightly better from /egg/ than from the rest of the cesspit that is this website. These games are about foresight, planning, being rational, and being constructive. It doesn't make sense to me that someone interested in all of that would also be the kind of subhuman shitstain that intentionally wastes their time shitposting and trolling a niche general with low traffic when they could be doing literally anything else more productive.The only motivation I can think of is this retard is stuck on red science packs and wanted to blow off steam by starting pointless shit.>>499839251The link isn't even the point. It's the sentiment of the post. One was just, "Hey, look, the Satisfactory devs gave a shoutout to Factorio and encouraged their players to play Space Age" and the other was some drooling, blithering retard that probably needs a handler to help them wipe their own ass to keep them from eating the toilet paper afterwards putting up an idiotic strawman and swinging at it in front of us like we can't all see how fucking stupid they are.When the Satisfactory 1.0 and Space Age population bumps this general got dies down and it goes back to being at risk for falling off the board before reaching the bump limit again, remember retards like this one that actively make people decide the thread is worthless and leave.
>>499840169don't care, didn't ask, not your blog forum, advertise your channel elsewhere
>>499839997it was 1 and a half, it's not a huge increase
>>499839086Now that roboports reveal the area around them I've needed like 4 radars total
Turns out there is a max space platform sizeThose two rears are just solar, how do I get power when I cant burn anything?
>>499840169You don't seem to be pretending about your retardation, friendo. And you're still pathetic.
>>499840169They're not interested in /egg/ tier dialogue. They just want to dominate and control this general.
>>499841514>can't burn anythingdon't asteroids have carbon? ignore the complete shortage of atmosphere, i'm sure it's fine
>>499841946>They're not interested in /egg/ tier dialogue. They just want to dominate and control this general.But enough about yourselves.Like really, now that most Factorio discussion moved to /fag/, /egg/ is just getting bumped off from page 9 or 10 almost every time with some inane shit. You're not having any real dialogue, you just want this place to be your little subreddit where you can hate the currently popular game with your fellow autistic retards to make yourselves feel special. Kinda reminds me of /v/.
so, stupid question for those who aren't the laziest fuckers around,does it cost any parts to send resources to a surface from a space platform? I may have a somewhat silly idea.
>>499842894Not that I know ofyou need a landing bay to automate it, but you can call things down in disposable pods for free
>>499843017calling things down for free is what I was after, thank you.now for my "fun" plan. park a platform in orbit, with laser turrets and solar panels, to passively harvest iron and ice for fulgora
>>499842794>you just want this place to be your little subredditBut enough about yourselves. Like I said, you're not interested in dialogue.
>>499843152does fulgora have iron asteroids?
>>499843152I mean yeah you do that. When I start needing science from different planets I have to make an extra platform that just loads science and then drops it in nauvis, potentially more than one of them
>>499843291every world from what I can tell has all 3 forms of asteroid, difference being in the size of them
>>499832923By the time it gets released it'll be $45.
>>499843201They're just afraid of bumping the general in the style of Terraria general or image dumping gens. It's no biggy.
Dropping in Fulgora with this inv hope its good enough
>>499843634be careful there's a spider on your hub
>>499843291If you go to vulcanus first you get the recipe to turn chunks into other types of chunks in the crusher so if that's an issue maybe stop at vulcanus first idk.
>>499841514Afaik the max size is only vertical, you can build as big as you want horizontal.
why is the default platform inventory 59? what kind of psycho decides on 59?
FYI factorio redstonershttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/even-pickier-dollies
>>499842794>Like really, now that most Factorio discussion moved to /fag/, /egg/ is just getting bumped off from page 9 or 10 almost every time with some inane shit. You're not having any real dialogueEasy to say after WEEKS of shitposting and trolling from Factorio fanboys drove everyone else out. Every time the thread was lively with conversations about other games, the /fag/s would see a thread with some activity and migrate back over and start making 30+ Factorio replies between replies about any other game. So of course people left. Then you retards act like the fact that you can and have driven everyone else away is proof that everyone here just wants to talk about Factorio alone.Just in the past week, we saw this thread do just fine with <20% of replies being Factorio. Until a few retards amongst you spammed everyone else into leaving. Which is why nobody stays. Which is why this general is usually on life support. >you just want this place to be your little subreddit where you can hate the currently popular game with your fellow autistic retards to make yourselves feel specialBut enough about yourselves.I can't believe you're not trolling with this. Factorio is the only game here with a dedicated group of autistic vermin actively attacking every other /egg/ game any time it gets more than one or two replies because they cannot tolerate this general being their private Factorio subreddit where they can hurl slurs without getting banned. I seriously can't comprehend anyone being so staggeringly stupid as to try to claim that it's the tiny minority of people here playing other games that feel entitled to this space and not the fuckwits constantly starting shit with them because they get triggered by the general being only 99% Factorio instead of 100% Factorio. I'll remind you this all started with this shit-licking inbred piece of trash with no provocation: >>499832936
I took the advice from another thread's anon to let my friends do their spaghetti for the keks and I'm already screaming internally. Well worth it.
>>499795891>a diagonal has to travel 33% less than a straight linebut there are no diagonals in factorio; it's a grid. manhattan distance is the same on either side
>>499845539>actively attacking every other /egg/ game any time it gets more than one or two repliesI haven't seen this with anything other than Satisfactory.And I think this is provoked by certain thin-skinned Satisfactory defenders, who can't handle the thought that their game is inferior.
>>499845838There was an ancient FFF about this. Old belts worked on grid distance, it was janky on corners, new belts flow over real distance
Satisfagtory and Fagtorio are simply different games meant to be played differently. That's just how it is, can you two fags suck each other off so we can go back to shitposting about PIDs, genuinely more enjoyable than this shit.
>>499845539There's a nasty study out there by University of Oxford that found the correlation that /b/tards and /v/ermins are the same.
>>499846214>University of OxfordAcademianiggers could tell me the sky was blue and I'd still go look for myself.
>>499845351Perhaps this, same reason kovarex said things are intentionally awkward dimensions so designs are not all the same cookie cutter stuff.
motherfuckerwhy would they destroy the one power pole keeping my norther outposts active
>>499845539>Factorio is the only game here with a dedicated group of autistic vermin actively attacking every other /egg/ game any time it gets more than one or two repliesi don't see anyone complaining about DSP or CoI, probably because those games don't suck ass.
>>499841514can't you burn nuclear fuel?
>>499849291CantDoing the make a planet science first
>>499849376then you're stuck with solar panels and gun turrets
>>499845839Nobody ever even debates that point. Nobody ever comes in here and says "ackshually satisfactory is superior in every way" aside from maybe that one troll. It's more like a handful of Factorio autists seeing people playing Satisfactory and melting down like, "reeeee it's not as good as Factorio so why are you playing it instead of Factorio?!?@!?!@" Like people can't play multiple games. Like this general isn't explicitly about the fact that people play more than one game in this genre. This was especially stupid before Space Age launched, just after Satisfactory 1.0 launched. "Why are you all playing the game that just fully launched instead of the game that's going to have a massive update and new DLC in 2 weeks rreeeeeeeee!!!!">>499849163You would if either of them overtook Factorio in player count or posters here like Satisfactory has done once or twice. Or if they were more similar to Factorio, like Satisfactory is. Either way, you can't justify bashing a game for being bad when Factorio was dogshit for ages in the early days and several "games" that have had a place in this general have been glorified tech demos that don't have any real gameplay and just let you tinker with shit. You're just looking for an excuse to be toxic.Honestly every time you autists attack Satisfactory over its quality now that it's no longer got PS2 graphics and only one tier of production and is actually seeing growth and success, it makes you look scared more than anything. I play both games so I'm happy to see them both succeed. But seeing Satisfactory grow faster than Factorio lately seems to have triggered a lot of you and made you overly defensive.In that context, the constant raging and meltdowns over Satisfactory before Space Age released makes more sense. A lot of you saw Satisfactory blow up overnight and it scared you that it could happen more in the future. Because it will.
How do I use this thing?I want it to only load chunks to cargo if there aren't any in storage
>>499843634No chem plant
>>499851768Store chucks on a belt instead since it's far more space efficient
>>499852206They are on a belt I just don't want to put them in the cargo if I don't need them
I haven't played factorio in a few months since I made it to white science and the spaghetti became overwhelmingshould I start over with the dlc? or continue my save until launching the rocket, and then get the dlc?
>>499851768you wanna set the filter for the inserter based on the cargo stock, if there's 0, output that signalif you want more than a single of each item, change the condition from "= 0" to "< 50" or however many you want to store
>>499818625spoilage itself is shit but you can make carbon from spoilageand then rocket fuel is dirt cheap once you get it
>>499842506you can't place boilers on the platform
>>499851520frankly, i just think satisfactory is an inferior game. i've played it since epic EA and have 500+ hours, and over that time they really haven't done anything to make the game less tedious. every time a major release came out, i tried it again, but it still had the same bugs and issues as before. sure, it looks pretty, but honestly i would've preferred PS2 graphics with more dev effort going into things like actually useful blueprints with autoconnecting belts/pipes. i think coffee stain is incompetent (their last big hit was wacky glitch simulator) and i think this plays out in a lot of the game. shit, stingers are mostly scary because they tend to spawn 10 feet in front of you in open areas, and i'm not playing on a potato.so yes, i think satisfactory is inferior and i take issue when people try to compare them as equals. one has had lots of care put into it over a decade to the point where the devs are fixing bugs like "fixed potential desync that can happen with a 5 year old mod that 3 people downloaded while it's a full moon on a tuesday", and one seems like the developers don't actually want to work on it. multiplayer is still buggy as shit, too. it's not a 0/10 by any means, but it gets a lot of unwarranted passes on 5 year old bugs and gameplay issues because it looks pretty, and it's usually casuals that prioritize things looking good over working.
>>499853310If factorio didn't exist, satisfactory would have flopped big time. It rode the tailwind and nothing more.
>>499853310man really just put the cold hard truth out there
Factorio is fun because of it's developers, satisfactory feels fun to me in spite of them. I like both games but satisfactory has problems, ones that are probably never going to get fixed now that they pushed out 1.0
Why is there no autopiler?
So what are the odds that in 2.1 they change quality so that you can use higher tier ingredients in lower tier recipes?
how do you repair shit on space platforms automatically?
>>499854105>autopilerwhat now>>499854123only if it's a separate assembler settingsome setups depend on the inherent quality filtering of assembler recipes, so you don't have to set filters on each inserter
why is the space age railgun just a hueshifted SE railgun
>>499854205Just have repair packs on-board
>>499817405rocket fuel from bioflux
>>499852915I managed to do it without the combinator but I'm still gonna have to learn how to do it with it
>EEEEAAARRRRREEENNNDDEELLLLLLLL
>tfw at work and can't stop thinking about Factorio>Or tiddiesI'm getting more fancy with the circuits and I'm trying to solve a problem. Can decider combinator output a pulse? Like for simplicity let's say i have a wire from a tank to a decider combinator. The combinator says "If tank is less than half full, output pulse" so when it empties past the half way mark, it'll output only one pulse regardless of how long the condition is true? Is that native in their interface or would it require more circuit nonsense?
>>499857172milk factory arrive
>>499857172>>Or tiddies
Is there a guide on how to use circuits to setup production for multiple recipes?
It smelt.
>>499858579We've been trying to reach you concerning your ship's extended warranty
>>499856184If you learn how to use combinators the solution will come to you naturally
>>499858579>leaving the ship chunkspeak sovl
>>499858936I think I'll try to use em on something more simple on ground first this does work right now at best I'd have 2 less inserters active?
Is there a way to automatically change a recipe to a different one if a machine has been inactive for X amount of time?
>>499859350ye
steam power nearing its limitsI know I really shouldn't but I'm gonna add a station for coal. it'll give me time to make the stuff for nuclear
>>499841514The max size is vertical and a direct response to memers at the LAN cheesing the final challenge by making a platform so tall it reached the end before the asteroids could reach the center, since they only can spawn at the top of your platform
>>499856846Have the clean version
>>499859820I think I had like 18 boilers and 10mw in solar panels with no accumulators when I started my first nuke
>>499859641How?
factorio man starts out on a spaceshiphe knows how to make a rocketinstead of making a spaceship he makes a giant space station to fly around instead
>20 engine machines>24 chem science machinesugh, and now I have to go scale my green chips so that I can make these red ones
>>499860092Clock that counts up for your preferred time then activates the recipe changer.Output inserter on your machine sends a pulse that resets the clock whenever it swings.
>>499860320The chinese knew how to make rockets a thousand years ago dude
>nuclear power plants burn fuel at a steady pace>4 plants for 480MW>only use 200MW of thisnot that it makes sense to save uranium on the first planet because I get more than enough glowy rocks out of a small patch + 6 centrifuges without enrichment, but what’s the solution here to save on fuel? I tried with reading temperature then adding when it’s low but it doesn’t really work (multiple fuel cells added at once, or even worse - only some reactors get fuel and I lose on neighbor bonus)Or is it impossible to do without saving hot steam in boilers?
>>499860359this is going to surprise youbut you are going to need a lot more green and red circuits than you could ever imagine
>>499860403What item can do that?
>>499860403Is there a clock/time elapsed function in there somewhere? Or do you need to rig one yourself somehow?
>>499860458you can make a clock (per reactor) and then reset the clock when the temp is < 500 and you insert a cell and then only insert another cell when the clock is > some delay
>>499860092I'm not great at this stuff but here's a timer that flashes a lamp every second
>>499845550Spaghetti bus is the perfect balance between chaos and order.
>>499845550Clean it up janny
>>499860696>clouds move backBuklshit this is a time loop circuit
>>499821152How is heating a length of copper so it can boil water more efficient than heating water? Unrealistic.
i had an accident
>>499859219just let it run to see if it clogs.Start with learning how to use constant combinators to make item requests.You use the constant combinator to set items and their amounts, then you use arithmetic combinators to count how many you have in a system and subtract it from the constant amount.say you want 10 of each asteroid, the CC outputs a signal of 10 each, and say you have 6 of each in the hub. An arithmetic combinator subtracts the hub's 6-signal from the CC's 10-signal and the resulting signal is 4.
>>499860572https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etxV4pqVRm8&t=269shttps://wiki.factorio.com/Tutorial:Combinator_tutorial#Basic_clocks
>>499860458>multiple fuel cells added at once, or even worse - only some reactors get fuel and I lose on neighbor bonusWire up all your fuel-adding inserters to all swing simultaneously based on a signal pulse and force their handsize to 1
>>499859998are smthe spritesheets stored in some uncompressed folder?
>>499861068deploy nuke
>>499861380
>>499860458I was just working on this
>>499860458I've done a theoretically lossless nuclear setup with temperature reading.I have a combinator reading the temperature and fuel of one reactor. It outputs a signal (I output green but it can be whatever) to the inserter that will insert to it when both the temperature is below a certain threshold, and there is already zero fuel inside the reactor (ie, it's not burning).The other three reactors output their fuel and are connected to the input of a combinator each (note that these wires are isolated from every other reactor, so the signals don't add together). The combinator outputs a signal when there is no fuel in the reactor (let's call this the red signal).The output of those combinators is wired to a second combinator, and also those combinators receive the fuel output of the original reactor (I have these inputs separated by red and green wires but I don't know if that's necessary). Those combinators output a signal (blue) to tell their inserter to insert when they receive a red signal from the other combinator (indicating that their reactor is not burning because it has no fuel), AND when they read a fuel signal from the original reactor (ie. it is burning).Also I'm not sure if this is necessary, but I override the stack size on all the inserters to just 1, so they don't insert more than one fuel at a time.
>>499860696Ok timer I understand now but how can I make it change a recipe on a pulse?
>>499861793keep in mind that the temperature will need to be adjusted depending how long your heatpipes are, otherwise as you approach the lower limit you might loose too much heat for the furthest away exchangers to run. Gotta dial it in for your design and expected load, if it's gonna be full blast 24/7 you're gonna want to set it hot
Are nukes the top end for violence in Factorio?With how you can have a space platform in orbit it's a crime that you can't do orbital strikes. Just railgun a steel chest full of asteroid bits at a planetside biter nest.
>>499862237have it make a signal when the counter resetsignore the T on the right, it does nothingif you wanna reset the timer then do the same thing but with a different signal. One signal resets the timer meaning the assembler is active, and the other is when the timer hits the threshold, meaning that the assembler is inactive
YES I could share a blueprint with descriptions annotating what everything does, but I'm playing factorio here
>>499861348It's literally in PNG format in a subfolder>\Factorio\data\space-age\graphics\technology\health.png
>>499862804>descriptions annotatingjust figured out what the displays are actually forit's to make it easier for people to hook up blueprints from the internet, just put a display on each belt what should go there
We'll call this good enough for today, the rush to space achievement was a hassle so I'm happy I don't have to do it again.Tomorrow I need to get to fuggora for EM plants to buff circuits, since my current setup is inadequate.
>>499863231forgot to attach
damn heat pipe lossescan quite get it to maintain 480MW under long term sustained load, varies between 476-480mw with reactor temps never reaching above 760 or so. Have my setpoint at 800 which it seems is unreachable under load
>you can technically use coal liquefaction to have steam power aboard the space platform using the coal you get from coal synthesis>you get all ingredients for coal synthesis from advanced asteroid processing and ice meltingthis is hilariouswhen is wube going to patch it out?
>>499836021You are battling the schizo you can't win this one chief.
man i just don't wanna, like, do chemical science
>>499863853whyoil is so easy, there's not even byproducts for blue science oil management
clean it up jannie
>>499863762What are you talking about?Coal liquefaction doesn't produce steam, it consumes steam.You can make steam power with sulfuric acid neutralization however. Though it seems like a convoluted process on a space platform and I haven't done the math on whether it's net energy positive or not.
>>499863853>>499863972I've got oil on my deathworld for the last two hours I've just been running around making the great wall so I can fucking build uninterrupted
>>499863972just don't wannagonna have to do a whole new green circuit array and then red circuits and then deal with sulfuric and actually make trains andi'll do it tomorrowfuck engine units i need more iron smelting for this
>>499861839You only need to read the temp of one
>>499861228Not him, but how do I get that pulse? That's what I'm trying to figure out here.>>499857172 How do I get one single pulse when a condition is met?
>>499864276I realized that later, they stay around a degree of each other or so. Honestly a way to read the temperature of the end of the heat pipe would be more useful though.
>>499864276I am only reading the temp of one. The rest of the wires and combinators are just to make sure that inserters don't insert when their reactor is already burning. Also since it's on a belt, I don't just have each inserter set to insert from the same signal because if (theoretically) the belt was empty where their hand was, they'd miss their chance to insert.
>>499864557post your combinator logic
>>499864390Maybe a reactor that isn't running?A bit expensive though.
>>499864154Right. I'm retarded. Acid neutralization can only be performed on Vulcanus however so your method doesn't work either.
>>499861103>logic any more complicated than conditional on/off
>>499862685I wanted lots of ice, found when I used only carbon reprocess or iron reprocess everything on the belt would become either carbon or iron, but with both on it becomes ice. Having the combinator change recipe after it's been off woulda let me have 1 crusher and then the recipe changer on the smaller belt oh well I'll still try to figure it out
remember to always include a pony motor on your nuclear power inserters, don't want to have a blackout and not be able to fuel the reactors
>>499864960>needing another type of fuel instead of a solar panel + accumulatorso you care about a small optimization of not running nukes at full throttle (when fuel cells are practically free) but you don't care about potentially fucking everything by requiring second resource that can be not delivered for a variety of reasons?
>>499864384No idea how to do it with just combinators, my nuclear setup that I was thinking of for that example uses the "send hand contents as pulse" option on the outgoing inserters.
>>499865341solar does make more sensesolar panels big gay though but I already have the steam all the way achievement so it doesn't really matter what I use. Solar would be more reliable.
>>499864142You stupided. Do not stupid here.
*Image is a legit spoiler*Guy who was feeling worn down by Phase 5 of Satisfactory here, I managed to finish the bloody thing. In the end it was easier than anticipated as those in the thread had indicatedStill, I'm worn out. I'm going to relax over the weekend before sinking my teeth into Space Age on Monday. Thank you for reading my blog
>>499864636
>>499866151too much work 4 medid it in one combinator
ok i went to clear biters on gleba and there were 4 big strafers and then 4 stompers spawned and lets just say I lost that fightmultiple times
>>499864384>>499865661Oh actually now that I think about it you could do it by having your signal ouput go both directly to its destination and through a combinator that multiplies it by -1, then to the destination.Since the multiplication takes 1 tick to process you'd get 1 tick of the positive signal before it's cancelled out by its negative arriving from the combinator.
>>499866210Yeah, I could've done it in one too, but I don't trust them to all insert at the exact same time (because I'm using belts that could theoretically not be completely full).
>>499866523ah makes senseI could probably add some logic to mine that checks that the chests actually contain fuel cells but it seems more of a detriment since it's better to have some power than no power at all even if it is out of sync
>>499866696I'd probably set up a programmable speaker to send a warning notification when one of the chests is below a certain amount.
>>499867034little bit fiddly since I would have to either convert the contents of each chest to signals so I could differentiate the contents of each or just have a speaker for each chest
Yay it's working more efficiently. It's reading from the inserters to know when it's actively loading for some huge recipes like centrifuges, and when it has stopped loading, it activates a sample and hold that sets the recipeThought I could do it smaller.
>>499867187very niceyou gonna pack all the combinators inside the beacon footprint?
I didn't think this through so they just infinitely pass the military vial between eachother
>>499867519filter the inserters so military can only go one way
unlocking robots again feels like I'm finally allowed to play the game
don't ping me if a wall is destroyed, I don't fucking carelet me know when a turret goes tho
>>499867567damn too late I just put it at the starting one
>>499863083>EARNDEL>>>>>>>>>EARNDEL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>earndel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ᵉᵃʳnᵈᵉˡ
Quality and its qualcequences have been a disaster for the engineer race.
here in the noob factorial world nobody build for a bus
>>499867343Perhaps, that seems like a nice challenge.There are so many items I don't know for sure if there is space for everything in the chests and constant combinators. I think I can do better in terms of the logic, it seems sloppy as it is.
>>499791619Pythagoras is that you
>>499867187How many recipes does that handle?Can you teach me? Tomorrow I need to sleep.
baked a new /fag/>>499868329
>>499812354Yeah I'm not even at nuclear yet, literally the only time I can play is while I'm supposed to be working.
Yo did they fucking remove biter's lust for radars????
>>499868383>no egg in OP
Found out I'm really overgeared for Gleba. Four rare legs, physical damage 6, and a combat shotgun makes even the stompers a joke with just regular shotgun ammo. Even the largest ones won't be a problem because their armor never increases.
>>499868383owe you one.
>>499866493Well now that's just dumb. I was hoping I could just switch it to pulse instead of adding more combinators. It seems like sending an "AH ITS HAPPENING" signal as a pulse to activate a system once would be a bigger thing. Guess it would cause confusion with how ticks are timed and processed. Dum.
I haven't done chem science yet. how do you keep your spawn planet safe & functioning when you disappear to another planet for the next 12 hours? biters will still evolve & attack I assume? all the while you're not advancing back at home
>>499869312build the wall
>>499868357It should be able to handle any number of recipes. There is a limit due to chest size, but I am intending to overcome that by having more than 1 assembler, and spread inventory items across chests feeding them and especially taking their output.
>>499869312Just build defenses and have a bot network to repair walls.Gun turrets with red ammo are functional for quite a while and flamethrower turrets instantly solve your defenses for the rest of the game.
>>499869312Just have good automated defenses.Choose (or mix) from the following:>uranium ammo gun turrets>laser turret spam with lots of power (nuclear recommended)>flamethrower turret cheese
>>499869178What's the use case out of curiosity?In general if I want a system to activate when something gets low I want it to stay active until the shortage is dealt with, and a constant signal achieves that better than a pulse.
>>499869312Ive been remote controlling tanks to clean up problem nests in the pollution cloud when they expand. manual artillery basically.
>>499869312robots and remote view
>>499869312>12 hoursjust go to vulcanus and it won't take as long
>>499869757Not wasting nuclear fuel cells. When my reactor is active I only use like a tenth of its total output. Instead, I pump the steam into tanks and want the reactor to shit off while the tanks are full. So I'll wire up a tank and say "When steam gets below 50% of the tank, activate the reactor" so I want a pulse to tell the inserters to add only one fuel cell to each reactor. If I just gave it a constant signal it would keep dropping cells into the reactors until it fully spins up and starts pumping steam into the tanks.
>>499870116if you read some of the anons in this thread you would know you don't need a pulsemultiple ways to do it
>>499870116You can just read the fuel in the reactor and have the inserters only insert if there's no fuel already in it. The currently burning fuel counts as "in the reactor" for signals.
>>499870173I'm at work and only popping in at random intervals. That was one of the ways I thought to do it. I'll browse when I get the chance.
>>499870368I don't want to insert fuel when the reactor runs out of fuel. That would keep it on all the time. I want one fuel cell in the reactor tripped by watching the level on the steam tanks.
finally got bots going on nauvis, time to work on getting into space
>>499870535You can use a decider combinator to set up an AND condition.Output a signal to turn on the inserter when the steam is below your desired threshold AND there is no fuel already in the reactor.
>>499870752Interesting. And an easy fix. A reactor heats up way quicker than a fuel cell depletes. Even if it didn't I could keep an eye on the temp just to make sure it doesn't insert one while it's still hot and producing steam. Nice. I think that'll work out better than my original idea.
>>499803936>Straight pipe build mode is in December updateIt's over.
>>499792739Oh yeah? what's this then?
>>499870978that still wouldn't stop it from potentially wasting a bunch of energy, no?>fuel cell depletes>steam tanks at 99% full>exhausts the last bit of residual heat>"oh shit, time to put in another fuel cell">network doesn't have the necessary demand, tanks full, heat exchangers can't convert heat to steam fast enough, power plant will waste most of the fuel cell>the moment the heat drops below 500 it will repeat the process
So whats the way to get high quality?Put quality modules into drills and have billions of different quality materials that you have to sort, then craft things with quality modules in them to have even more quality and so on to infinity?Craft iron gears and copper cables to recycle until you get legendary?Just quality the last step and recycle it endlessly?
>>499871957All of the above
>>499871957I believe the first is the most efficient.
Productivity or Speed?
>>499872019How do you imagine handling the scope? Drills will have chance to output all 5 qualities. You need to sort them. Then from each ore you can make different quality of plate. The lowest will have 5 quality plates, the next one 4 etc. Then from plates you make gears and other stuff. Each of them has each 5 factories for each quality and can output5,4,3 etc different qualities. It cascades into an insanely large network
>>499872309productivity in the machines, speed in beacons. you cannot compete with the exponential savings that productivity affords you as you spam it down the chain, but you need a lot of space without speed beacons
>>499869312if your factory is a well oiled machine like it should be, then it shouldn't need your supervisionresources in bulk, enough to rebuild your defences over again should they fail, and enough power to keep the lights onif you're off world and not doing any tech then the factory shouldn't be producing much anyway, so pollution will dissipate and biter attacks far less frequent
>>499871957Just recycle, quality quality modules are far too expensive to actually put into miners and the hassle is not worth your time as a player and any step where you could use a prod module you should be using that instead anyways. Weather you do that at the start or the end of the chain largely depends on how many and how varied quality products you want. if it's just modules and assemblers you may as well do it at the end but if you want everything your mall makes to be quality it's better to just grind it at the plate stage and feed the entire thing with legendary ingredients, I think the later is mostly just the convenient option since you want legendary space stuff, legendary personal equipment and beacons as well + things like bots, power poles and other items don't hurt either. At most you can later on boost the recycling loops by adding low quality quality mods into miners to give a bit of a leg up on the whole process.Technically the most efficient way would be to use quality modules in any step of the process where prod isn't allowed (or already capped) and then fork the normal products to science and quality towards mall production respectively but there's not enough of those stages to get legendary quality and the resulting spaghetti basically doubles your base for no reason.
>>499873106quality is a true blight on the game
>>499873006>pollution will dissipate and biter attacks far less frequentthey only expand within a certain distance of player structures, right? i guess if you shut the whole thing down, it should be fine as long as nothing is in aggro range of biters
>>499873245I dunno, they wanna get everywhere as far as I can tell
>>499871909Well now, I'm watching the steam tanks. It's only going to OH SHIT when the steam tanks are half empty. I might waste 1 fuel cell for every 1 or 2 used cells. Better than what I'd waste if I just let the reactors burn without abandon which would waste 9 fuel cells for every 1 used. The system doesn't have to be perfect, just less wasteful than 1:9.
>>499868182qualcequences is a good word and you deserve recognition
>>499871909The only time energy ever gets wasted in nuclear power is if the reactors burn while already at 1000°, heat pipes only lose heat (energy) when heat exchangers use it to make steam, and steam doesn't cool over time.In that particular Anon's case, the reactors will be just below 500° while the turbines consume the steam buffer, and the reactors won't start up again until the buffer is low enough, and it's incredibly unlikely the reactors will end up hitting 1000° from one set of fuel cells so no energy will be wasted.
I just realized biters and belts share the same color progression
if I a specific rare item and I've already got the normal one, if I load up the assembler with quality modules and put my own item in the output slot... if I feed it the ingredients will it say "output full" if it's gonna be a rarer quality item?
>>499869312you dig your hole i build a wall
>>499873596And inserters. And sort of assembling machines.
>>499873596what do you think powers those belts? sure isn't electricitytons of baby biters
>>499873435As long as your reactors never run at 1000°, you're not wasting anything.
>one jellynut is 10 MJ>one rocket fuel is 100 MJ>creating one rocket fuel takes 36 jelly>which takes 9 jellynut>dealing with processing it into rocket fuel only improves it by 11%So there's really no point in actually doing this for power, right? It's only something you do for the rocket.
>>499873782Also a convenient way to get rid of something that spoils.
>>499873631it needs to finish making it, then it'll back up
>>499871612>the quickest way to get between two points is to go directly between themholy shit anon we gotta take this to the news stations ASAP! your discovery is so massive it'll revolutionize the world.imagine all the cut corners!
>>499869560how does it pick what to build?
>>499873782That's much better than converting solid fuel to rocket fuel which is a net negative energy operation.Rocket fuel isn't typically for steam power or fueling furnaces, it's for trains and rockets.
was going to just hand craft it but I could pull the lever on the slot machine instead
>>499873978I regret hand crafting all my personal equipment when I could've done the gacha roll.
>procrastinated on factorio for a few days because the early game is annoying>say fuck it and force myself through so that i can procrastinate on another thing that im REALLY not looking forward to.>explore for a bit>not a bad start. good oil, north/east sides easily defendable. hope i can find some decent chokes to the south/west sides.
>>499873978you could even save before the craft begins and reroll it
One day there will be legendary coal here.
>>499874787What are you gonna do with the legendary coal?
>>499875270Legendary plastic
new nuclear setup
>>499875540He cute.
Okay.Time for Blue science.
dropped the expansion like hot garbage
how do you use the space platform starter pack?
>>499876012Fug. I still need to do that. It's been nothing but "oh, one last thing until I go to another planet" for like 2 days now.
Is there a way to permanently enable turret range view and lightning rod protection view? I want to make sure my ship is perfectly protected and that I don't build on an unsafe zone by accident.
>>499876129you launch it into space
>>499873245>they only expand within a certain distance of player structures, right?Pollution is tracked per chunk and consumed by things like ground and trees and biters so the end result is that it only spreads so far before the passive drain from ground sucks it all up, it's not a set distance so it depends on how much pollution you are making before the area under your pollution cloud can consume all the pollution you make, the more pollution the bigger area needed. That's why forests contain pollution and deserts let it spread much further.
>>499876017What's the problem? You only remove stuff from one side of the belt and that's the game's fault?
>>499876129Put it in a rocket and there is a "new platform" option in the rocket menu. Hope you are making a steady supply of rocket parts because you're going to be launching A LOT of Rockets to get the platform stocked. And that's just for platform extension tiles.
>>499876160Come on, anon. Live life on the edge od your bubbles. You might have fun.
>Put down a few turrets with uranium ammo by demolisher>pops like a zit>Do the same for medium demolisher>Health doesn't seem to changeSo what's the secret to the bigger worms? Tesla turrets or something? I saw they're weaker to electric damage and the head is weak to poison.
>>499876463Pickaxe.
>>499876463No you just need more. The big guys have 10x the health and regen as the small guys. That's it.
>>499876230no, the rock under the belt casting a shadow on the belt above it makes the game unplayable
>>499877051OH. Shit. I guess my brain just assumed it was the cursor. Shit.
why do jellynuts have quality if when you plant rare seeds you get normal quality back?
Can lab inserter chains pull spoilage from one lab to another?
>>499877351the answer is in the pic
>>499877351Looks like it has something to do with spoil time
>>499877462>>499877473you can't get quality jellynuts though
>>499877519If you can't get quality why does it matter that it has quality?
>>499877572you circular logic motherfuckeryou utter fuul
>>499877572because having it scale with quality implies that you can get a quality versionso i tried planting quality seeds and got normal seeds and got mad
>a few random quality pieces went onto the main bus>god alone knows what they clogged up and how much Important Shit is no longer being producedcool systemnow can we please, PLEASE make it so that recipes can take any quality by default and only spit out better quality of all are of higher baseline?why in the world can't I craft a normal inserter with an uncommon iron plate?
>>499876463Demolishers have super high regen.If you can out-DPS it then it dies very quickly.>>499877725>what is extensibilityit's that way so that if an update or a mod adds the ability to obtain quality jellynuts, the effect is right there
AHHHHWhy is it so hard to make a compact 4 way with elevated rails? I've been banging my head into keyboard for over an hour now
>>499878468
>>499878468consider the cube
>biters set an attack wave of 1look at this cute guy
>>499878524>>499878634This is far more compact than anything I did so far, guess I'll just use it for now.Is 2 tile spacing between rails viable with new rails btw?
Finally got a rocket setup on gleba. I actually really like the spoilage mechanic. It was really fun to come up with the stupid circuits to keep the bacteria alive, and produce a bio-reactor thing with the pentapod egg before it hatches, but also keeping it dormant in the chest for as long as possible so I'm not overproducing the buildings. They definitely aren't good solutions, but they do work (so far).The required minimum production rate on the bacteria is kind of punishing; if I calculated it right you need to consume/buffer ~100 ore/min to keep it alive running in a tight loop. Which isn't really a problem if you set up the rest of the factory first, but it did feel bad the 6 or 7 times I had to manually go collect some bacteria to reboot it.
>>499878686>"Yo steve you suck, go attack that guy"
there's probably a better way to do it but eh
When does Fulgora get good?>Fell for the easy modules/quality rerolls meme.>No enemies>Easy reds, blues and steel when those are the usual midgame bottleneck.>What could go wrong?>Recyclers take forever to gather the materials to build themselves.>So do the stupid batteries you use for power because nothing else works on this literal trashcan planet.>And don't get me started on the magnetic assembler.>Islands to encourage rail travel? I fucking wish I had that much iron for a decent railway.>Or belts for that matter. Gotta make do with logistics instead.>Would take forever to gather enough gear for another outpost.>Solar doesn't work in space either so how are you supposed to leave the planet anyways?Am I trapped on a tomb world that's dead for a reason?
>>499879683skill issue, I went in with with all nauvis and vulcanus tech and had an easy time :^)
>>499879683Can you not use a space platform to give ya the occasional boost? You can automated those things, yanno? If your factory is banging away on Nauvis just ship shit in to cover deficiency.
genuinely starting to think it'd be easier to send in iron and rock from luna than trying to capture a new patch at the moment, it's that bad.I wish 1.1 had the <pollution per surface> mechanics 2.0 has because it makes no fucking sense for a factory on the moon to contribute to my global pollution values, but SE doesn't have that either. I'll just have to live with the constant attacks.
Looking to get into From the Depths and hopefully waiting for a sale because it's been hard this year, anyone played it and if so can you tell me what you thought about it?
>>499879683What about iron from orbit?
>>499879683If you don't have a ship doing supply runs then fulgora would be a shitshow. I just used bots because sorting all that crap with belts sounds like a great way to want to shoot yourself in the head. After getting all the research done before heading to Vulcanus I can say that doing quality on fulgora is a huge trap. You would need insane amounts of recyclers to get the items you want for quality stuff and there's just no point compared to Vulcanus infinite resources. I would grab the recycler and head there and just make shit out of lava so you can scrap it with zero worries when it pops out without quality. The space constraints on fulgora never made me want to expand to other islands because of the logistical shitshow that would soon become.In the future I'll probably just use it as a blue and red circuit farm.
What are the chances that a mod will work if I just change "factorio_version": "1.1" to 2.0?
>>499879958You better not be that cutie britbong guy
>>499858579interesting approach, making a double-wide furnace stack for steel. I prefer the approach of just having a normal stack making iron, then feeding the output to another stack (either in-line, or the next row over and I invert the output line from the iron stack to feed from the head so the steel can flow out the back and towards the bus)
>instead of bothering with a wall you can plant a bunch of trees on nauvis for biters to fuck offI don’t want to be an elf…
>>499853192you can place them they just won't work there is a way to make them work but it's mega cursed
So you destroy big space rocks (who all travel really slowly for some reason) by… shooting them with a gun?This strains credulity a little
>>499881029tell us
>>499796392Did you ever pick up a box of ammo?Honestly, machines and shit should weigh more
>>499881068wait until you find out how you perform research in this game
>>499881068Alright, you come up with something that provides both an obstacle and resources.
the game has graphs for asteroid density in routes between planets but no graphs for asteroid density while orbiting them? come on, man
hypehttps://wiki.factorio.com/Version_history/2.0.0#2.0.11
Feels bad to download some else's blueprint but I'm too lazy to make my own.Is there a reason to not make all straight rails elevated btw?No more getting run over by a train, can do stations and belts under, I see no disadvantages except for rail support cost
>>499878198shift when selecting the recipe iirc
>>499882312>recipe wants iron plate and iron gear>iron gear is uncommon>iron plate is normal>machine stopsunless it's been hotfixed since yesterday I don't think this works
>biochambers can't be chained together with inserters moving nutrients from one to anotherI was starting to come up with such a nice direct insertion design too.
>>499879683why do you retards jump into planets without the slightest amount of preparation and then complain you don't have materials?
>>499883373is there anything besides labs that has that kind of behavior
Why are factorio /v/ermin posting here? Go back to /fag/ where you belong. You are not welcome here.
>>499883878Gun turrets, furnaces (not coal)
h)elp
>>499884305every decent space platform setup i've seen relied on direct insertion. there's probably too much shit to shuffle to realistically put on a belt
>>499884305just use the main building as a storage chest then you can spread shit out more, just use circuits to make sure it doesn't get full
>>499884582I saw Nialus build a really good ship to travel around using a suchi belt, it just requires good circuit usage and dividing the belts in half, one half is raw material and the other is processed material like bullets
>>499884582eh, my spaghetti works fine
>>499884582it is piss easy to do with a belt>1 sushi belt>1 asteroid collector of each type, set to only output when you are low on the output of that asteroid (not the asteroid itself.. so iron ore/iron plates for metalic)>3 crushers that input/output to belt>assemblers for science input from belt, output to hub>chem shit input from belt>1 inserter of each type to throw shit off the side if it goes over the limit somehow (can do better with real circuit but this just needs wires)
>>499885040>1 asteroid collector of each type, set to only output when you are low on the output of that asteroid (not the asteroid itself.. so iron ore/iron plates for metalic)you can set their filters with circuits btw, I think that's cooler and more dynamic
>>499885040>1 asteroid collector of each typeNo need when you can automatically set the filter on them. Put how many of each rock you want in a constant combinator and then attach that to your grabbers. Then take all your belt contents and invert it with * -1 in the arithmetic combinator and plug that output onto the grabbers too. Now they will automatically filter to whatever rock you currently need. You still might need some inserters to dump rocks overboard depending on the length of your suishi belt.
>>499881280The graphs show the density at 0 km from the planets, and are consistent across all graphs, so that's the orbiting density.The real problem is that they give you numbers in asteroids per minute (I assume), but doesn't tell you the size of the area that calculation is based on.
Alright, that should be about it for my first trip. I've got enough supplies to keep me going with mass producing silica from moon rock and enough for a couple return tripsI forgot you only unlock rich moon rock processing only with purple, which requires heat shielding, which requires silica in the first place, so you need to send a little bit of steel and plastic in the first place to kickstart the process before you can mine the kind of moon rock that has an iron byproductI like k2's stack buffs
oh for fuck's sake I forgot about the electric polesEVERY GODDAMN TIME
>how do I implement all of physics and mechanical engineering into my game>hur you're a schizoright, forget I asked, and fuck you. I already know about physics constraints in ue5 they are used for ropes, just linking a pdf to how that works isn't an answer. but at least you tried compared to the other three people calling me nuts. i wont be asking anything else, you can go back to playing satisfactory now
How do I take big screenshots again?/screenshot X Y?
>>499886718/screenshot [x resolution] [y resolution] [zoom]
>>499884305After having left Nauvis for Volcanus, i can give you this information:- USE FILTERS ON THE INSERTERS TO MAKE SURE THEY ONLY PICK UP WHAT THEY SHOULD.- Position the inserter pick-up AWAY from anything that could be holding important items. Especially if that inserter is going to rotate into space, where it's functionally deleted.- Put a 1-tile border of platform around your ship if you're paranoid about losing items into space.- Nauvis orbit is the only 100% safe one to sit on without turrets on the platform. Only chunks are there, nothing dangerous. Every other planet you might need 100% turret coverage or you'll be chewed up.- Chunks have a stack size of ONE, which makes them absolutely abysmal storage in the Cargo Bay or the Platform Hub... But they store 8 to a belt, 4 per lane. The cargo bay is 16 tiles and gives 20 slots. 16 belts is 128 items.- The chunk collectors have an internal storage for chunks they collect, if the belt is saturated.- There will always be more asteroids! Throw the chunks you don't need, back into the void. Do not allow your belts to deadlock, or design your belts to avoid deadlocking asteroid chunk feeds to your grinders.
Have you properly fertilized your ground today?I hate when they manage to get the bots. Bots are way more expensive than walls and ammo.
>>499887397Thank god for the K2 turret buffs huh
>>499887015There needs to be a hotkey that places an inserter with filters turned on already. I remember watching my stack inserter chuck all my turrets into space and being a bit miffed.
so the intended planet order is absolutely vulcanus > gleba > fulgora right?>vulcanus>focus is the production of raw resources, huge for shitting out buildings to other planets.>LDS productivity, vital for sending up more rockets >cliff explosives>highest solar energy rate>coal liquefication, perfect for helping make your space platforms a little more self sustainable>artillery, vital for later expansion on gleba and navius>worms are a one and done threat that never even looks at the main factory>most importantly, it directly has everything you need for to make a rocket. which is good for the random noob who does zero prep before crash landing.>gleba>at the very least wants a starter pack from your space platform>rocket fuel, plastic, and asteroid productivity.>infinite fire/explosive damage upgrades>productivity & efficiency 3 modules>biolabs>epic quality (for some reason its here and not fulgora?)>spoilage means the turbo belts from vulcanus are not just increased transport rate, but less downtime for crafting.>fulgora>having regular space platform logistics is encouraged, but not forced like aquilo>benefits are mostly focused on the player and quality farming setups...>but the only thing fulgora provides for quality itself is the 3 module, epic is on gleba and legendary is on aquilo. and uncommon/rare alone isnt exactly enough to justify a quality farm.>stopping at vulcanus also gives you the ability to build on the deep oil ocean.
this feels slightly better
Are you guys making ammo for turrets on the platforms themselves? How bad is yellow ammo for defense? Restocking red ammo is eating up most of my rocket launches.
>>499887843I would still stop at fulgora first just to unlock recyclers. Then you drop down the supplies needed to build a rocket and immediately head to Vulcanus instead. Near infinite resources+recyclers makes quality farming a joke to set up.
>>499888373Spam out some damage upgrade research and yellow ammo seems to work fine for me.
>>499887716Actually reason enough to reload save, especially on a speedrun to finish in under 40 hours.I guess the "easy" answer would be to change it so that inserters never throw items into space, unless they've been given a filter.
>>499887843I'd swap Fulgora and Gleba.Vulcanus still first.
>>499887843I feel like if you're playing with biters on you gotta go to vulcanus first just for the artillery. It makes expanding the main base so fucking fast and lets you have more peace of mind while you're out.
There should be a key to hold that makes placed inserters set to whitelist.
>>499887508yeah, and it gets even more funny when you realize I'm using yellow ammo to take down big fucking snappers, because a yellow ammo rifle mag costs me 1 iron and 1 copper for 30 rounds doing 21 damage each, while the more expensive red ammo would cost me 4 extra iron to do 30. Everything about my base is especially cursed.Does it show I've never touched solar panel farms in my life before?let's pretend I tried to make it a cross on purpose, every solar panel on the moon gives 150 KW so this will be more than enough to kickstart everythingDecided to send a rocket in the middle of the night but that's fine, that just means I have time to plan the miners aaaaand I fucking forgot about belts.How did I fucking forget about belts holy shit I'm gonna need to have the goddamn miners output into the fucking rocket landing padwhy does it keep happeningat least rocket parts are mostly reusable
>>499888373> Making ammoYes, this is necessary; especially on later travels between planets, and even just idling in orbit above worlds that are not Nauvis.> How bad is yellow ammoIt's not about how bad yellow ammo is, the question is how many turrets do you have to shoot the asteroids at once... and did you do the research to boost damage and rate of fire.You can 100% get away with about 10 turrets up front.> Restocking redSend up the copper plates instead and make the red ammo in space. 1000 copper plates per rocket / 5 copper plates per red ammo = 200 red ammo per rocket. Compared to a limit of just 50 red ammo directly by rocket.Of course, then, you would need to make the steel in space too, but you have infinite iron so that's no problem.Also remember you can:- Assign priority targets to turrets.- Tell turrets to IGNORE non-priority targets.- Pass through ammo between turrets.So you could in theory have a few special red ammo turrets that only shoot the medium asteroids, and the other yellows clean up the smalls as priority and help with the mediums when there's no smalls around to shoot.
So why is no one using /fag/? This general is 99% factorio now as opposed to the regular 80%
did I understand the tooltips right?1 nuclear powerplant can operate 4 boilers and 1 boiler can operate 1 turbine
>>499890796>Tell turrets to IGNORE non-priority targets.Oh fuck i did not know this.
>>499891171no lol
>>499890927baiting the newfags got boring, got to get working on my own run.
>>499890927/fag/ is for fagsfactorio always has been part of /egg/ and will stay as such forever
>>499888512Damage 5 can be obtained with only blue science (so you *can* do the no production/utility science "achievement") and will double turret damage output. This is the one you should get, since it functionally extends ammo lifetime reducing the number of shots to kill asteroids, making your on-platform ammo production more efficient.
>>499890927>>499855216this is fag? cool.
>>4998911711x reactor(ignoring neighbor bonuses for simplicity) = 40MW of power outputHeat exchanger can take 10MW, so 4x exchangersTurbines output 5.82 MW so 7 is the closest to a ratio
I really should stop procrastinating and get to space already.
>>499891751SHE is talking about this thread. >>499868329
>>499892083Really niceBUT THE RATIO FOR GREEN CIRCUITS IS THREE WIRE PER CIRCUIT NOT TWO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>499892514FUCK I WAS SO AGITATED I MISSPOKETHREE WIRE PER TWO CIRCUITS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>499873963Randomly chooses from a list of stuff it doesn't have enough of. Pic related would be outputting to a decider combinator. A really simple version could just use the decider's feature to switch outputs only 500 ticks or so, and ignore most of the circuit.
>>499892083I recognize that spaghetti, I think. Actually that looks much cleaner than before.
so to save scum quality on personal equipment you have to save before it starts processing the item right?
Meanwhile back on home planet.
>no tungsten in the safe zone>anything i build here gets destroyed by the asshole worm a minute laterBravo, Earendel.
>>499895376just kill the worm?
>Want to move on to second planet>Keep getting stuck fixing shit in nauvis
>>499895376Another thing I hope they change for 2.1: adding that vibration pollution mechanic.
>>499895376bro forgot about the single gimmick on vulcanus
>>499895376
>a single ammo clip is heaver than a steel furnaceyea okay
>>499896878Yet another reason they should switch to only a slot restriction instead of the mass system.
it's one explosive per cliff now? wow, that's pricy
So I want to play rampant arsenal, but it's patch lockedIf I do the whole make it work part, how do I send my MLP tulpa autism out so others can play?
ngl space exploration did the „space” part much better than space age. everything about space platform kinda sucks and isn’t really funthe opposite with planets: there was nothing interesting in se about them, just nauvis with different flavors, while in spage I enjoyed both vulcanus and gleba a lot and only fuggora turned out kind of meh
>>499895552Just go retardAll you need is a single remote controlled tank, long term power setup and some construction bots to keep nauvis ticking smoothly
>>499892398I'm just a dude looking for ksp posts that aren't on reddit since the forums are kill, but unfortunately that lined up perfectly with the launch of that space dlc
>>499891975oh I see where I wrongedthank you
Do you guys have any tips for using roboports, log bots, etc? my small brain cant seem to think of any designs utilizing them.
>>499895376you are not supposed to get free tsungen deposits, kill worms pussyit can be killed even without du ammo
>>499879683when you figure out how to build a bus properly
>>499895692you and me both but it ain't happeningmaybe in 2.5 or something>>499897062it should have both a slot restriction and mass restriction for volume and weight, but that would only work if stack sizes and item masses were picked sensibly and not autogenerated + tweaked to fuck with the player + tip.Also if you could pick different rocket recipes with different capacities so you can throw fuck you resources at the problem lategame without having to launch a bajillion rockets.
>realistic ores got updatedyay, I was getting tired of the ugly ass vanilla copper>stable foundations tooneat
the factory's energy needs are met now
Someone was planning on making a spengies server so for your consideration
>>499904680the rescue ship is so overtuned it's actually cheating. Make a small block ship and a shitter large block base to handle the mandatory large block items.
>>499899303agreedSpace Ex ships were way cooler
>>499902058How? The only thing I have that even deals damage to it is Uranium Ammo, which I can't make on the planet. Are you supposed to ship 200 rockets worth of that shit (thanks for the cool rocket caps on ammo btw, Earendel)?
wish they could do something about this
>>499906657you have the solution it's flamethrowers
39 more...
>>499897720cliffs are way rarer now so it balances out kinda miss them though
>>499906376same way you deal with biter nests if you are not a pleb altho much more defensivelyplace lots of turrets in it path, then aggro worm into themyou are also supposed to spam rockets after early game with 6-8 space ports fully speed beaconed supplying logistics on every planet. they are cheap af.
>>499859840factorio: no fun allowedso what if the players find ways to cheese the game? let the people have fun, jesusno normal player would even attempt such stupidity to begin with
Whats a good ratio for chemical plants to thrusters? Numbers make it seem like 2 of each fuel is enough for a thruster but i feel like with a fuel buffer you don't need that many.
>>499908598theres no vetical max size, theres max size ship can reach by expanding going up, but not down
>>499907140>raketakapacitasThis can't be a real language.
>>499906940>>499906657I found poison capsules to be much better for deforestation. Also great to thin out biter nests since the poison kills worms quickly.
CRUCIAL KNOWLEDGE FOR EARLY-GAME QUALITY SAVE SCUMMERS:Quality rolls are based on a random seed so continuously reloading a save will always result in the exact same quality rolls.This can actually be exploited to your advantage.By crafting a lot of quick cheap items, you can see when particular qualities are gonna roll.In >pic related, I saved and then crafted a bunch of iron gears. I noted that the 104th gear would roll rare, so I reloaded the save, crafted exactly 103 gears, and then crafted Power Armor MK2 and it was rare.Obviously this quirk will be impossible to exploit when you actually have mass quality production setups, but it can be good early game if you want a specific singular item to be rare.Also I think other processes with random recipes use the same seed as quality rolls, so you want to disable stuff like uranium processing while doing this.
>>499862685I think I found a more elegant solution for asteroid reprocessing. I setup a combinator that only outputs the recipes then I setup a randomizer that changes the recipe after it's been long enough for the machine to finish working. Now I just need to figure out what the time interval I need is.
>modules aren't all next to each otherliterally unplayable
>>499906657There's plenty of options:-drive over them with a tank-use grenades-use a flamethrower-use bots if you want a quadrillion stacks of wood for some reason-use nooks for extra style points
>>499912182>>499910328>>499906940I meant the obvious chunk borders from pollution but your advice actually works on that too so thanks
>>499912332Oh, that's what you meant. I never really noticed that and probably can't unsee it from now on, thanks for that I guess.
>>499912798More insight is always a good thing anon, don't let your emotions hold you back.
Til dogs can walk backwards
The new combinators are hot. Less need to hack together silly solutions, because conditional logic on red and green wires, like output green wire if anything on red wire is non zero. Kinda wish we had blue wires too.
is it possible to land on any of the new planets without anything and then get to the point to build a rocket only with the resources of the planet I crashed on?
>>499913664Yes on every planet except the last one.
>>499913736I might try fulgora thenpretending to be a clumsy engineer who can only crash into planets
>>499913664I did it for vulcanus but for fulgora I packed red engines, blue chips, low density and rocket fuel to be able to make a rocket silo and launch asap meaning I only need to make concrete, steel and pipes to leave just makes it easy to go back and pickup whatever I need or start transporting the science out
>>499914208is there any enemy hazards on fulgora?I only know it has lightnings and ancient ruins
Is it worth setting up foundry smelting for iron/copper on Nauvis or is just not feasible with needing to transport calcite here?
so how come the Tank takes exoskeleton legs to move faster
>>499915529Flintstones tank
>>499915529how come 50 ammo is 1 ton and I am carrying 10k in my backpack
>>499915119Not feasible likely. You can use them to make transport belts really fast on other planets though, also why I packed up exactly 9 foundries for fulgora
>>499913664Yes but you'll hate yourself when handcrafting and handmining because you didn't bring anything
>>499891648gun turrets double dip on damage upgrades. +100% on turrets and +100% on ammo becomes +300% damage.
>>499914772I'm just landing there I was improving my ship no enemies, very little space. Don't go without elevated rails unlocked. You might potentially be able to landfill it too
>>499916640i heardyou cant landfill
Behold.I assumed you have to use automatic requests, and wasted bunch of rockets sending up full stacks of solar panels and assemblers.>>499893131First time I posted it here.
>>499914772no
>>499916640Find a big island. Run around and actively seek one out, your life will be much better.
Tanks having equipment grids is such a game changer. Shield just taking hits as I plow through biter nests
>>499917108>jettisoning asteroidsyou monster
>>499916014it's a 1:50 calcite to ore ratio, isn't it? that doesn't sound too bad. Probably not going to be feeding a megabase with it but I could see it being useful for a mall or circuits.
>>499916014>Not feasible likelyIt's extremely feasible, what do you mean?
>>499911430Ok we did it. Now it also resets the recipe whenever it finishes. I think I can also add another condition to reset after not working for x amount of time but it might not be worth the space/weight on the ship because the selector already has a built in clock. I guess this only matters for people that have gone to vulcanus but pretty neat to manage your asteroids. For example fulgora has very little ice so then I just set the randomizer to only iron and carbon
we did it reddit
>>499919680>can't sustain for more than 4 hoursdead game, dead marriage
space station is up, finally unlocked requester chests, no more worrying about getting belts trough impossible spots :^)
What's a compact way to unload 2 wagons onto 4 belts?
>>499916014>>499918627It's incredibly good. Melting ore and then casting the plates gives 2.25x the resources from base productivity of the foundries, not to mention that stuff like steel is incredibly cheap to make from molten ore.
>>499920186getting a Loaders mod :^)
>>499920209How much calcite can you send on 1 trip? Having on demand iron/steel products on a fluid network is pretty good but its limited by how much calcite you have
I wonder how long until someone makes a mod that just puts all resources, enemies and hazards on a single planet
>>499920347you can make space platforms pretty damn big. and 1 calcite for 50 ore means even less than a yellow belt is enough to sustain a decent sized base
Damn those initial ore patches in vulcanus looked massive but have no ore at all.
>>499920539>Make a huge shipping platform>Make a huge looping belt that offloads calcite onto it and onloads calcite only when under a certain amount>Send ship from vulcanus to nauvis>Set cargo silo to request a billion calcite I can see that working to extend the storage past its normal cap
>>499920347a decent platform cost no outside resources to travel between planets, and rocket parts are super cheap in vulcanus.
>need to destroy a few stacks of solid fuel>put into steel box & shoot> realise it wasn't solid fuel I just clicked but actually all my space platformsfuck
>>499920831or just build cargo expanders or whatever they're called
>>499920831>making a stupidly long platform just to squeeze in tons of more storage via a retardedly long beltyeah now we're cooking
>>499921030Yeah that also works but space next the center is good real estate
>>499910603
>>499910603based, good work king
>>499910603why not just use cheats at this point lmao
>Infinite ore>Infinite energy>Free trash>Worm friendsVulcanus is so fucking based.
>>499921978the ore is only as infinite as your calcite deposits
>>499922463>not sending iron ore down to vulcanus from spacengmi
it workskindanearlyit's not trying to jam 4 batches worth of kovarex into a single centrifuge, so it works goddammit
>>499922736then you're not getting it from vulcanus now are you
>evolution factor 0.8092I will get fucked if I build more coal power right?
>>499922736That doesn't do anything you still need calcite
finished the nuclear setup for my space platform. now i just need to make some asteroid processing
>>499923221What happens if your fuel cells run out???
>>499923414It would be extremely painful
Watching a platform get rebuilt as you clear it and paste a blueprint on top is pretty fucking cool.
>>499923414harvest those uranium asteroidsever heard of cosmic radiation?
>>499923414hopefully that will never happen
our response /fag/ bros? (no homo)
Is fully singalled compact 32x32 still possible? New rail minimum turning radius is noticeably higher
>Dead worm looks like a massive turdWhat did they mean by this
>>499924784Symbolism of Earendel taking a massive dump on your favorite game.
>>499925008but its way better now
mfw i was making power on vulcanus with coal and boilers
>>499925309how are you supposed to do it? solars?
>>499923612Can't you just setup a kovarex centrifuge loop on the ship and then never run out
>>499925309pretty standard factorio stuff
>>499925364sulf acid-steam-steam turbines
>this is the kind of shitshow I have to create to conquer a single patchmind you, it's an 8 million patchbut every moment I do not mine something I'm hemorraging bullets37 hours in I'm starting to feel like I might be regretting this course of actionI wanna fuck off to the moon where there's no biters but this shitshow needs to be constantly fed with bullets and thanks to krastorio's magazine having 30 bullets and stacking to 200 I've been handfeeding every single goddamn one for the past 30 hoursI used to just have to do it once an hour, now it's getting to once every ten minutesI was not ready for this in any capacity
Why do I keep seeing people filter their grabber arms to only grab one type of resource.Please stop.PLEASEThe reason you have no fucking fuel is because you're missing all the ice on the other side of your ship.
uh oh
>>499926585anon why would you do this
I did it, it's possible to build 32x32 compact in LHD, the trick is to lead straights a bit further out and squeeze signal in here even tho looks like it shouldn't fit.
Just discovered that if you build a platform from a blueprint, then due to the way it builds it will not replicate your belt lane switching magic as intended on the first goHaving tons of fun
so how do i automatically drop shit from orbit?i'm producing spess science and don't want to manually click it down every 20 minutes
>>499926867>I did it>he doesn't know
>>499927614Landing pad can request stuff
>>499923024this looks jank as fuck even to my started-factorio-30-hours-ago eyes(otoh I have no idea how to not overfeed my nuclear setup, but it's not really an issue on first planet)
>>499926867nice, my RHD one looks the same with a roboport in the middle
>>499927632Fixed it, works fine now
>>499927951it's just a prototype, the real one will have rows of centrifuges and saturated belts of 235 to make those nukes I'll need very soon
>>499925393no, assuming you use the kovarex process and reprocess spent fuel, it will cost an additional 23 units of U-238 for every fuel cell produced
only resource I'm low on is coal. is there any reason to run a train instead of a long belt?I thought I'd need a train (or a really, really long belt) from the north-west coal but I found a 15m patch kind of nearby
>Can't fit any loop at all inside 32x32 footprint anymoreRoundabout bros... It's over
>>499929084you'll run out of other ores eventually, and when you do that coal belt won't help
This is my kovarex setup, it got a little easier since long-handed inserters have filters now.
>>499929084do the train, because you can.A double headed train and lone track will work.No signals are needed for a lone track with no crossings.
>>499928171any reason why you're avoiding raised rails? due to size concerns or just because?
>>499929084>is there any reason to run a train instead of a long belt?Why in god's name would you ever run a belt instead of a train.
>>499929483nta, but raised rails take up a ton of space and can't really fit in compact intersections.I'll probably make larger footprint intersections at some point as well, but as of now none of my intersections use raised rails (and I doubt I'll need any until I start a science multiplier run, which I'll probably do after my normal playthrough).
>>499929483Yeah, I want to have something compact for lower throughput needs.
>>499928991my math was wrong, it costs 1,6 U-238 per fuel cell
so nice having everything set up and functioningif I wanna annex another chunk of land, I lay down the track and a cache of turrets, walls, flamers and fuel, roboports and bots magically appear in seconds to do everything for me
I'm just about at purple science and I think I'm gonna need to completely dismantle my iron/copper/steel production and move to a centralized smelter setup so that things can properly scaleGod dammit
>>499929404there's 14m iron and over 7m copper, in practice it's 50% more due to rare miners, and once I get to vulcanus (soon-ish) it'll be 150% more due to rare big miner with extra 50% chance not to consume oreie I'm not worried for a while>>499929540belts just work with no fuel, have constant throughtput and need next to nothing when it comes to planning/building themalso I am a factorio newb and don't really understand what I'm doing with trains
Reminder that you did NOT beat the game if you>used reroll exploits>used Kovarex>put mines on top of your spaceship>used a loop of burners to stock on coal>used blueprints that you did not make yourself>sent materials to your spaceship to quickstart a base in a new planet>used underground belt into underground belt of different speed>repaired buildings>did not start the game with default settings or a harder mode>used buffer chests>used cliff explosives>used splitters>used solar energy>used accumulators>used wires>used more than 10 cargo bays>repaired buildingsAll of this is LITERALLY CHEATING. If you did this YOU ARE A CHEATER. I am the authority in Factorio and I declare you A CHEATING FRAUD who did NOT BEAT THE GAME
>>499929821You put a train station on the right side of the railyou put a buffer of chests feeding into the train wagon at both stationsyou unload the cargoyou put two locomotives, one going back and one going forwardyou have a fully functioning coal train>no fuelmy brother in christ you are literally bringing the fuel to your base
>>499930015nuking cliffs is fine right?
>>499930015>used underground belt into underground belt of different speedoh my goodness the /v/baby doesn't even know what belt weaving is calledyou're just precious little sweetheart aren't you
>>499930015Don't forget>using bots>drop pod resources>using landfill>harming fish
>>499930116...or I do none of that and instead place a belt and stuff magically appears where it endsdon't get me wrong, I'm not saying trains are pointless - if I wanted more mining/smelting I'd need to switch from quality to speed because I physically cannot mine enough ore, so bringing ore from various far-off veins would be something a train is good at - but I just don't see the benefit there, hence the question
I checked a few of the new infinite sciences to figure out the new formulas. Here's the result:Follower robot count: Previous cost+1000Mining productivity: Previous cost+1000Research productivity: Previous cost*1.2All other productivity: Previous cost*1.5All military science (health included): Previous cost*2Worker robot speed: Previous cost*2I'm a bit surprised that research productivity has a lower increase than the other productivity research. Mining productivity was buffed (previously it was +2500 per level) and follower robot count was nerfed (previously it was +100 per level) and give you +25 instead of +10. Artillery range was also buffed, it used to be previous cost*3-2000. Ballistic was nerfed significantly going from +40% ammo damage and +70% turrets damage (multiplicative) to +20% for both (still multiplicative). Lasers are now separated from eletricity based weapons (they have their own research now). Recycling prod only applies to scrap so no 100% return rate on items. Health upgrade doesn't appear to increase your regen rate so it's still useless. Nothing else appears to be changed other than their cost and science pack required.
>>499919160And it fucking works I now have infinite asteroids of whatever I want now I can land in fulgora in peace and learned some circuits on the way which I'm gonna need on the recyclers pretty sure
On Gleba and Fulgora you can drop naked (if you're silly) and boot up a base from rocks and trees. Seems you can't do that on Vulcanus because you need lube and plastic and there's no oil or alternate ways of getting it. Did I miss something?
Those values per second in the tooltip don't include the productivity bonus, right?
>>499931181Yeah you missed the new refinery simple coal liquefaction which you should replace when you get the good one from tech
>>499931485think it includes all bonuses8 * 1.5
>>499931485They do. Look at the ratio of belts - it takes in 8 blue belts/s, but makes 12/s
>>499931689>>499931652Oh i thought that was actually the base recipe, thanks anons.
>send vulcanus bottles to space platform>turns out it's full and bottles just disappearedis this a fucking joke?
chippie forgot my barm
>>499931181Yeah, you missed a lot. I just dropped on Vulcanus and did everything from scratch. It took a long time but after a few foundries setup up, everything goes smoothly. Oil comes from simple liquefaction and plastic comes from cracking the oil.
>>499931485>Foundries can make 12 turbo belts a second but only 6 iron gears per second
>>499885358>>499885374i obviously know you can do it better if you are willing to use more advanced shitthe point was it is EASY and SIMPLE to dowhich means you can do it with basic shit anyone should be able to handle
>>499931181My space platform barely limped to fulgora and blew up shortly after I dropped. It's kind of fun actually I would recommend it.
>>499931181You can make heavy oil from sulfur gas + calcite which in turn lets you make everything else. I know you can get through all of vulcanus because im retarded and almost did it since i didn't realize you could orbital drop things without a landing pad.
>>499885374How fast can a platform get? I have a need for speed
>>499931485They do. The tooltip includes speed and productivity. You're turning 8 belts into 12, or 50% free products.
>>499933396Honestly, making plates is preferable in most cases. It's a lot simpler to make gears on demand rather than belting them from the start.
>>499879683Assuming you are doing fulgora stranded no outside challenge:It's along buildup. It took me a lot of time to build belts and rails to establish anything. I got stuck for over 20+ hours there. You need to scrap and sort a lot and without bots it's even more difficult. Make a recycler loop for everything, as batteries, red and blue circuits and lds give a lot of iron/copper. Once you get rail, get yourself a large island to build your base on while the small islands you can mine scrap from.Once you get electromagnetic plants you need to use them for everything you can.Fulgora is actually way harder than you think.If you are not doing any challenge runs, grab yourself iron from space platform as sending it down is free. Also bring a lot of belts from nauvis and green circuits.
>>499930454>>...or I do none of that and instead place a belt and stuff magically appears where it endsbiters will eat your belt
>>499934290Hows power in fulgora done should I send a bunch of accumulators?
>>499934267>It's a lot simpler to make gears on demand rather than belting them from the startgears are twice as dense tho, which matters all the way to gleba's stacking thingies. it's no deal breaker, but it is something to consider
>>499934967a few to start but they're a good way to get rid of the massive amount of batteries you're gonna be getting from scrap
Am I crazy or are biter nests closer to spawn now. This cluster seems bigger than normal so close to spawn, its right near my iron patch. I guess the trade off is I ended up on an island. So if i purge these cocks early I can turtle to the stars
>>499913346Write it to Devs, maybe they'll add blue wires, or make a mod
>>499935209Alright I was sending 25 accumulator didnt know id that was too low, why green chips?
>>499935178Space is almost free. You just have claim it.
>>499925309I was shipping ice down from orbit for oil recipes
>>499935449
Aww Yiss
>>499935449you can kill even medium-sized bases with those robot capsules now, I haven't needed a single turret past the second hour or so
>finally start to test out my space shitbucket>barely make it to Fulgora>realizing I don't have nearly the amount of laser turrets or solar panels I need to safely idle up there
>put a bunch of asteroids into a space platform hub>can't take them outfor fucks sake, what am i supposed to do now
>>499934967You have those lightning rods and accumulators. Since you get a lot of free batteries all you need for them is iron. Another reason to rush EM plants is that so you can make quality modules and recycle. This way you can make quality 2 accumulators that save twice as much energy and with bit more effort quality lightning rods as well The reason you want to have your main base on large island is so you can collect more lightnings as huge base will eat a lot of power and on small island there's not enough lightnings to generate enough energy
>>499936402Be smart about never inserting more than 1 of each asteroid type at a time and have them on a looping belt also don't let too many get on the belt by limiting what you remove out of the asteroid grabbers>>499930767
>>499822868>At higher evo, rampant just stops fucking around, periodWell yeah, that's the entire point of installing it. What exactly were you expecting?
>>499831134I don't care, its not a game that relies on matchmaking. As long as my 8 close friends still play, we can have fun together.
>>499843634Foundries are useless without calcite.
>>499936169Don't use laser turrets we have been saying this for days now, use anything else
>>499937498I wanted to have fun with krastorio's extra guns and give them an option to be relevant when the game literally removes pollution as an option, so I thought I'd add rampant because rampant makes biters attack no matter whatand then I thought it'd be the funniest thing to do death world because I definitely thought that minimizing your pollution cloud would mean still having attacks, but only minor ones, so I thought this would be a cheeky way to do a rampant death world runand then I thought it'd be funny to play krastorio with lunar landings to make LL more interestingwhat I didn't expect was the perfect storm that this would entaildepleting my starter patches without being able to access anything better because iron enrichment is behind blue science and it'd a huge waste otherwiseI am literally producing zero pollution at the moment and I've ranked several hundreds of thousands of kills before unlocking purple science 33 hours inThis entire run was a series of mistakes
>>499938036I was just going to use the 9 to set them up on transport belts, underground belts and splitters up to tier 3 should be faster than assemblers
>>4999380361/3-ish price express belts on-site sounds pretty good
>>499938258Laser turrets are fine to protect the back of the ship where asteroids rarely come then you don't have to setup ammo back there
FUCK AGRICULTURAL SCIENCE FUCKL THIS SHIT I WAS SO COLSE I THINK I USED 50K OF THIS SHIT FUCK YOU FUCK YOU GUCK YOU FURRY FUCK YOU IN YOUR BLOWN OUT ASSHOLE
How do I load different signals in a sequence? My brain is melting
>>499938258I'm hoping for a mod that will make space rock resistances more interesting.
>>499940001what do you mean 'load'?
>>499940236as in present to the circuit>output signal A>60 ticks>output signal B>60 ticks>output signal C
>>499940586https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-division_multiplexing
>>499940586selectors do exactly that, even being able to set the intervals
do I have to do agricultural science first?
Fucking love adjustable inserters
>>499941068same, I'm so glad it updated
>>499940758selectors do random, i want sequential
>>499941386index
>>499941068Adjustable inserters?? That's not base game is it. That's some shit I'd have in opus magnum
Excuse me what the fuck
did not expect this
>>499941491It's a mod but it's well fucking worth it. The best thing though it the near/far drop configuration so you can adjust what side of the belt it drops on.
>>499941426I'm asking HOW to utilize the index
>>499937304>by limiting what you remove out of the asteroid grabberscare to elaborate on that? should i read belt contents?
>>499941830a 60 tick timer, a counter, something to modulo the counter by the total number of signalsso every second it should 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3I know I didn't explain it well, I can see it in my head and that's all I need to do it, I'm not good at transcribing conceptual processes but i'm okay at implementing them
I just died from requesting some white science and it landed on me
>>499942535you got icky sticky'd
>>499942432Well if you end up making one, just pastebin the blueprint
imagine planning for expansion in the future
I haven't even got purple science automated yet and everyone's fuckin around on other planets
>you can't explode gleba cliffsFUCK YOU
>>499943584Fuck wrong screenshot
>>499943784you WHAT
>>499943819>train reliant productionholy based....
>>499943784
>>499944105that's literally everyoneeveryone uses trainsthey're the most efficient way to move things from point A to point B
>>499944485>He doesn't make 18 mile long belts because trains are for autists
>>499935581>Space is almost free. You just have pay for it.
>>499938281rampant deathworld is a peculiar kind of experience. if the map rng doesn't align it ends up pure miseryfrankly, rampant is just too tedious, esp when the entire map you haven't claimed ends up in one enormous hive ~10 hours after the start
HmmOkay that's very interestingArmored trains shouldn't have this issue usually
>6 big drills fill a red beltComfy ratio.
>>499944985Rampant fixed seems to be a pretty good experience so far honestly speaking, I've just been twiddling my thumbs for the last 20 hoursI have a savefile from 5 hours in that I could probably go back to if this goes too south but honestly speaking it's quite decent the fact that I am not producing any pollution is most likely helping, and getting rid of biter nests later on will be easy with K2's weaponsa laser turret with a range of 6.5 fucking chunks, imagine
>>499942429I just read what's in storage I never insert more than 1
And now we find habitable land wonder how long it'll take me to find a good platform
>>499945921Did I get really lucky? That's a solid amount of land and I have cliff explosives to make it more solid
>>499943784FOLDED ONE THOUSAND TIMESYOUR EXPLOSIVES WON'T WORK HERE FACTORY MAN
>>499946413That's a pretty good one.
hopefully tomorrow i will have figured this out
>I have to quality my quality modules
>>499940042Ice asteroids should be weak to lasers. Finally a reason to use the new target focus feature.
>>499946707I would just store steam in a buffer tank instead of a bunch of boilers. Think of them like accumulators.
>>499946707Are you sure you want to have a fission reactor in your platform?
is stormworks any good now?
>>499947169lollmao even
>>499939389AYYYYYY LEEEE MAOOOOOAIEEEEEEE
>>499947057nothing wrong with it per se, but one on a platform that small is pants on head retarded
Could kind anon please show me a basic recipe switcher?
>>4999427739JC0L4qpI'm hoping to get schooled too because this gets a C-
>>499943584>>499943819I wanted the cheevo
>>499946413Jesus, anon. You hit the jackpot,
I just realized you could use the recipe switcher on foundries. You could check a silo and have it switch over automatically.
>>499948213
Based stink bombs.
>>499946993my nauvis tanks disagree with you, i've already done the math, though this storage was from 1,1.>>499947057fission before i switch to fusionignore the cliff
>>499910603I have no processes using random recipes even in space, and this doesn't work for me at all. the gear that ends up uncommon is random every time
>>499948416I have like 100m accessible scrap by non deep rails the ones in the island are only like 1m total. Every other island is small as shit actually jackpot
>>499948283I saw that and really thought about going for it, but I figured I'd just get pissed off and annoy myself so there was no point
Gonna build my first plataform for space travel.What is more fun. Vulcanus or fulgora?Do I need guns covering everything single angle of the ship? Any tips?
>>499948469I dunno what the fuck is up with pastebinhttps://files.catbox.moe/16qyn2.txt
>>499948283I got it
>>499948565Did you kill it only with poison? I didn't realized multiple poison capsules would stack. I assumed it was a binary thing.
>>499949281Guns 360 is necessary but the back needs less
multiple pollution types on one surface would have been neatespecially if they could conflictimagine if the stink of your industry (assemblers, boilers) made the spores less attractiveinstead of just ignoring pollution, you try to maximize it
>>499949281>Any tips?Make sure you have at least 200 ammo in stock before going between planets.
>>499949576Imagine a building whose sole purpose is to burn fuel to make smoke, in order to keep the pentapods away, like using insect repellent, but instead you are covering the planet with smog, turning glebla in to Mordor.
>>499949281Vulcanus felt more fun to me after doing fulgora first. Plus the tech that lets you build elevated rails on deep oil is locked behind vulcanus science. Build smelters on your ship and research as many damage upgrades as you can to make your yellow ammo halfway decent.
>>499949416Yes I just spammed those and occasionally shit the rifle with red ammo. They seem to stack.
>>499950009>yellowI already have red and could easily make uranium rounds, but I was planning on doing laser, with a couple of acumulators on board, not sure if viable with the energy costs, I was investing hard on lasers on nauvis.
>>499949306thx, gonna lurk and learn the design. It may be very useful for micro set ups.
>>499950314>I was planning on doing laserNobody tell him.
>>499951329WHATS THE CATCH WITH LAZERSSPEAKE NOWNOW
What am I supposed to do with all the stone in Vulcanus?
>>499952112You can dump items into lava.
>>499952026Guns are a lot more useful because you can just automate yellow ammo with the iron asteroids and have an infinite supply.
>>499952112legendary stone bricks
HOW DO I GET RID OF THIS SHIT WITHOUT LAUNCHING A ROCKET WITH NOTHING IN IT
>>499952026asteroids have 90% laser res
>>499946776yo engie, we heard you like quality, so we put quality in your quality so you can increase quality while you increase quality
>>499910603>quality save scummingjust debug yourself the thing if you're gonna savescum knowing you're using a loaded seed. You're gonna waste less time.
>>499910603>being this low as human being/egg/ my expectations wasn't so high but holy fuck
>>499952714>>499952887kovarex pls
>>499952641quality feels like an afterthought compared to the rest of the dlc. wonder why they even included it
>>499910603I wonder if this will be speedrun legal
>>499953194save/loading is always speedrun legal, it's usually a stupid waste of time so it's rarely done.
>>499953194>>499952887It doesn't even work if you have biters on
inventory blueprints in remote viewer, am I asking too much?
>>499952112high quality walls, dump the rest
>>499953625put them on your hotbar dummy
>>499934267consider: belt the liquid iron, and cast it as needed. now you don't have to move steel, plate, gears, or rods
>>499950314Problem with taking ammo from the planet is that it eats a lot of rocket launches. Lasers don't feel viable to me and so far yellow ammo has been more than enough with enough guns.
>>499954894>belt the liquid ironthat'd make a mess, I think I'll put it in pipes instead
>>499950314Here is the problem with lasers.
They don't charge from the natural lightning rods?
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/PlutoniumEnergy/changeloglooks like they were really futureproofing for SA with the space science thinga bit harsh though? That would hugely nerf it for vanilla 2.0 players.
I knew launching all that uranium ammo would be worth it.
>>499933396the belts are so fast they speed up their own manufacturing process
I think this is the laziest koverax I've done in my life.
>>499955304No. >>499933482It's very basic as soon as you understand it. I made this pic earlier. You just need a constant combinator and an arithmetic combinator doing pic related. Input how many rocks you want and attach them as seen above.
>>499943784Mods will fix it
>>499836861>They're secretly /b/tards passing as /v/ posters, so this behavior is to be expected.but every /v/ thread is like that...
>>499924541it's strange, they talked up the new rail positions and stuff but it's inferior to the old rail. Only elevated rail is better
Fulgora is pretty cool, got most of my setup done. only problem right now is stone and ice. The ice I can turn to steam I guess, not the worst. Not sure what to do with the stone, just trashing it for now.
>>499953192You can turn it off, it's a separate mod from space age
>>499956096you can't play space age without quality enabledspace age CAN be completed without using itbut the general experience is balanced for it
>>499929162Time to start centering it around chunk corners then
>Turning your personal roboport off automatically recalls all your active botsOhhhYeahhhhhh
The final boss of Factorio.
>>499956052s-bends, half-diagonals, and signal spots are all really good, I think worth having roundabout BPs be 2x2 chunks rather than 1x1>>499956360that was my first thought but you'd still have the blueprint spilling over the halfway point of the chunk
>>499956529>>499878634
>>499956052lol what. The new rails are so much more maneuverable it doesn't even come close. Plus you have twice as many spots you can place signals now compared to before. The only downside is a slightly bigger turns.
>>499935449It makes me happy that the game can generate proper islands again. Took them long enough to re-implement it.
>placing rails is somehow worse than beforeHow did they manage to do it?
>>499957171the turning radius and I had to redesign all my chunk aligned rail
>>499957572t. roundabout user
>>499957762naw T junction chad
>overhauls are still better than a whole ass $35 DLC that took years to make
>>499812354>>499812539I could reliably do the 8h achievement on default settings + no blueprints just from knowing roughly the rate of raw materials needed at each stage, but proper speedrun times are insane. I think any% record is sub 1h30m and I'm usually only starting oil around that point when I'm playing "fast".Speedrunning seems to use a very different skill set from regular fast play. Most of the game is about rates rather than absolute amounts but speedrunning is all about absolute amounts and knowing how much of everything to buffer. Most early game speedrun builds cannot sustain their production, they just build up big buffers and then overbuild production later to consume it all, so all the standard knowledge of ratios etc goes out the window.
How am I supposed to make a bigger and better base to travel space and spam rockets without issue when my shit map looks like this and cliff explosives are super late for no reason
>>499958113skill issue
>>499958113what the fuck did you do to your map generation settingsevery time I clicked reroll on default settings the central area was just a big plain with no cliffs
>>499958113>super lateNot at all. You could have them within a couple hours on vulcanus.
>>499910603I just tried this in a world with no biters, and only power generation built. It would work maybe 70% of the time (way higher than vanilla rates), but no matter what I did it wouldn't work 100% of the time. it seems to be a timing issue, if I wait a few seconds after loading to start the craft it wont work, even in a world with only 1 assembler and no space platforms
>>499955105Lasers get huge bonuses from infinite research that more than make up for it. And you can now do infinite research much earlier. At around laser damage 9 they catch up to gun turrets in terms of viability against asteroids. The only problem is power drain. You can use nuclear power to circumvent that.
>>499957991um, wrong
>>499958203Looks like water scale set to low
while I hate how quality was implemented, I like the general idea. I think it's neat that space is super limited in orbit, motivating you to want only the highest of quality items up there
>>499955320>he says, using anything but
>>499958402don't gun turrets scale even better with infinite research since both ammo and turrets get stacking bonuses?
>>499958628SE/K2 was way better than "vanilla but with more useless shit"
can you use landmines... offensively? With bots?
>>499959206ehhbots will get shot downmines will get spit on during the two-second arming periodit's not very good if biters are still around
>>499959351>mines will get spit on during the two-second arming periodOh right that's a thing
>>499958939>"vanilla but with more useless shit"You just described SE space science past the first tier. You get to do everything over but this time in a different color! I love the SE mechanics but the recipe balance is fucking awful. AAI Industry also sucks ass.
wait, are high quality nuclear reactors bad because they consume more fuel? it has the diamond next to the consumption stat, don't know if it means more or less fuel consumed
>>499915852ammo must be carried in special ultra heavy led box to avoid scaring the rocket
>>499959541look it up in the Factoriopediathat's what it's there for
>>499959541power output and fuel consumption increase in lockstep. they don't get more efficient, they just burn through the fuel faster
so wait if you bought factorio off steam does that mean you can't get the stand alone older versions off the wube website?I don't want to replace my whole factorio steam install with the older one I just want 1.1 so I can look at my Space Ex base again
>>499960010retard
>>499960010link the accounts
>>499960294ohhhGuess I need to make a wube account on their website first. Had no idea you could link themThanks
oops, I didn't scout the area out very well
>>499960569cliffs are just free walls
>>499959968sounds like heat exchangers are the best use of quality for nuclearcheap-ish, and we don't have heat pumps
>>499958791They do but you're usually limited to yellow ammo on the platform so it evens out somewhat. The point is that both work and you're mostly choosing between having to set up nuclear or having to make and deliver ammo around the platform.
>>499960681If biters could climb walls, rampant would have a field day with it
about to leave for my first planet, how hard is it to get back
>Foundries without calciteActually fucking useful.I could bring some calcite in but I'll proba build a transport platform that's specifically made to bring and take stuff to other planets while keeping the one I use to travel myself just where I am
>>499960681my outpost blueprint doesn't factor thatI'm not making tailored outposts depending on the terrain, I'd rather pick a good patch
Now can do most items in the game. Still need to do some rearranging to make room for the final last few items.
>>499960681see that wall? you can climb it
>>499958113you can trot off to another planet and get its science before even making production science
>>499961004blue print brain rot
>>499948213That's the simplest timer I know of, it did get more capable with the red/green signals, here it is activated only if the green wire has any signals. You can also now set the modulo via a wire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EggDldJVggM
>>499961554I made it
>>499952112you need a million landfill on glebaand I want quality landfill too
>>499950156it really should be a binary thing desu, this must be an oversight. or maybe each segment has it's own check and you managed to drown the thing.
do demolishers come back?
>>499963436no
Do all planets have the worm?
>spend 30 minutes trying to get this fucking rail intersection working>deleted and remade it a bunch of times>there's always the same cunt chain that blinks>delete all the chains again>replace them>it fucking worksMaking rails without bots fucking sucks
>>499964620>Making rails without bots fucking sucksYes
>>499964620This is why I just do point to point trains if I really need to set up any trains pre-bots.
>>499964620why are you doing it then
>>499964620skill issue
>>499964821I'm getting some basic train infrastructure laid down.
>>499965080I always get bots before that, although I also make bots first thing with blue science.
Fulgora or Vulcanus first??
Thread is on the way as soon as this failure of antispam allows it
>>499965409Vulcanus
>>499965321>need more iron ore for plates>need that before oil>ore patch is literally right next to oil patch>laying down double rails so I can grab both at once>add a few intersections now so I can expand out if need be
>>499965684maybe we should give up a let /fag/ takeovernobody talks about the other games anyways
>>499964620bro?your bot start?
I dont want to leave VulcanusI finally found my home
New thread?
>>499966310No. It ends here.
>>499966310combinators will handle it, probably
>>499812354I have planning autimso too. I need to get a spidertron and arty before I sent up a rocket. I've sent three rockets into space. and each time it took more than 60 hours. i also never use blueprints from past games. dont even know how desu.
Bad luck with the map; there’s no place to build a bus. Any suggestions?
>>499812354480mw without kovarex?
>>499966006>local homosexual infatuated with steaming hot anus
I'm finnally ready.
>>499965321How do you normally build rails with bots? I tend to rush bots after blue science, but until I have nuclear, power armor mk2 or a big steel/green outpost it's difficult to sustain a big bot network. When I first unlock bots I usually use the hobo strategy of carrying around a stack of roboports and some bots and just plonking them down anywhere I need to do a large build. That doesn't work for rails since you need to keep picking up and moving which makes it slower than just handplacing. Maybe if bot changes make them less retarded in non-convex networks it might be possible to just have roboports alongside the rails, but pre space age this always resulted in the bots flying outside roboport coverage and getting stuck.
>>499967137>main buswhat is this 5 years ago?
>>499892083I have the same problem! It's been so long since I've played vanilla and the tank is still king. So I've been wiping biters out having fun and putting rails down. I haven't setup yellow science or left nauvis and biters are at 0.73 evolution oops.
>>499968050I have roboport coverage around my base - there is a power draw for sure (so you need a decent boiler line and maybe a bit of solar), but you can also just do local bots in your suit.
>>499967871your back is exposed.
saving /egg/>>499968662>>499968662>>499968662
>>499966827>>499812354Took me almost 50h to reach rockets now. No blueprints, not a veteran (only launched a rocket some 5+ years ago), had to figure a lot of stuff again constantly having to stop building to deal with biter nests, started on a desert, wanted to do the other sciences to get more damage upgrades and other stuff because of that, wanted to future proof my base because I had no idea of how much of a drain of resources the later stuff would be, I just knew I would need tons of iron and copper.If I had to restart, I would go with railworld to disable biter migration, build smaller and rush the rocket stuff. I only went this far in one week, because I had the week off from work.
>>499967137Bend your bussy over
>>499967280...yeah?That's just a 2x2 reactor which is less than 9 Uranium miners working
>>499969472that's also pre requester chests so are you manually filling the fuel chest or do you have belted fuel?
>>499958113The new map generation is much better than before, but I will probably never make a rail network pre-vulcanus ever again. The "canyon-path" style of terrain generation leaves space for the rails, but it doesn't leave space for the stations. Even the most compact one-way stations are on a length scale that is much larger than the typical space between cliffs, so you basically forced to use bidirectional trains until cliff explosives.
>>499969717I've belted fuel before, that's not difficult.You can even use circuits so you aren't buffering a ton.
>>499969717That's not me, but I did set up nuclear that way in SE. I just built the plant next to my uranium dropoff/processing
>>499969871cliffs are way rarer on nauvis under normal map gen now. Not sure what you guys are changing to get these aggressive cliffs everywhere
>>499907140>>499910215Hindi?
>>499972523How do they insert sideways?
>>499972859adjustable inserter mod
>>499910215>>499971948Hungarian has vowel harmony which makes the long compound words sound silly to speakers of languages without it. Same applies to Finnish etc which is why they also have a bunch of>akadapaladakapatalakalolwords.
>>499975676Oh okay, thanks.
>>499906376I spammed turrets with red ammo and also built a huge field of landmines in front of them. So far the landmines have consistently killed the worms before they reached the turrets
With the new fluid changes can you still drag massive pipelines across the map for uranium mining? Is it as simple as running a power line alongside it and placing a pump every however many tiles? I really don't want to have to use trains pre cliff explosives.
>>499978604Yes, it's that simple.Also, elevated rails can go over cliffs.
