1st law of thermodynamics- matter & energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Matter & energy did not create itself2nd law of thermodynamics- entropy only increases. That means there was a starting point.If you hold the position of naturalism/realism (matter and energy only) then you deny these fundamental laws of nature. There is no 3rd position on this.The existence of Information disprove matter and energy being the only thing that exists. Information exists and its independent of those two.This cannot be shared on /sci/ because of the upheaval it will cause so Im posting it here. Natural laws are a separate category than science. Both natural laws and science are studies of the natural world, but the difference is that science requires hypothesis and experiment (explanation), while natural laws simply only state what nature CAN DO. (Description)Explanation means why or howDescription means what or isInformation is always traced back to an INTELLIGENT SOURCE!Natural laws debunk atheism and prove creationism. They also prove EARTH BEING CONTAINED!The "science" that says earth is not contained is pseudoscience. (Astronomy and astrophysics). Its pseudoscience (pretending to be science) but worst of all- VIOLATION OF NATURAL LAWS!Violation of natural laws masked as 'science' and look how much the world eats it all up. We are lost man.You cannot even begin to arrive to science if you violate natural laws. Laws and science and laws of physics = DO NOT EXISTThis is how much of a trap they put us all in, let that sink in
>>41696872>you can't disprove the earth curvelaser testing and amateur (not Nasa as for some reason when they reach hights of less than 20+ miles up, there is a curve in the video but with amateur videos its perfectly flat) weather balloon videoshttps://youtu.be/NBpr-P0oCd4?si=f_jkWXJ_aRy3lwWA
>>41688742Its kinda like,Y means X has to exists and their is no other way for X to exist without YBut then Y gets disproven therefore X is also disproven
>>41696872I never claimed the sky was a triangle. You claimed there can be gas pressure next to a vacuum. >We've already established that celestial navigation uses a globe earth in all of its geometry Where does celestial horizon come from? Dont be a chickenshit and run away from this question please, if you claim celestial navigation on a globe. Also please define an elevation angleSurvey =/= measurement >I agree that you can't disprove the earth curveYou wouldnt be agreeing because you just went against what I said, no initial proof.
>>41696872Before I cite those papers please define force
>>41691347Like generally what the fuck are you?A yes man?Under every one of this niggers post you always give him words of reassortment XD
Does anyone here have any experience with the greco-roman gods?Decided to pray to Hephaestus for help about finding a job, asked for a sign, and I got called on my phone about an IT assistance job that same morning.In short can any of you redpill me on how to properly honor the old gods?
>>41682460>>41682604Also, I think that offerings to "low" gods such as night, darkness, underground and so on were delivered in lowest points possible. Cave system, valleys, in best case scenarios also burried or drowned. Burning sacrifices were offered to "high" deities. Sky father figures, antropomorphized sun, moon, day, light deities. Best case scenario at top of hills, rooftops on altars.
Bump for a decent pagan discussion for once
By the way what should I do with the physical objects that I offer? Should I keep them or what?>>41692537I thought the same thing, which is why I didn't do it
>>41696105>By the way what should I do with the physical objects that I offer? Should I keep them or what?I'm not sure. If there was a temple around I'd take it there. To my understanding gods aren't necessarily looking everwhere all the time.
>>41696105Inedible burned or burried/drowned, depending on type of god you are making offering to. Edible usually are eaten after offering, as you are nuorishing not yourself only, but god you prayed to through your offering. That is the reason why christians drink wine and eat bread. Not to fulfill themselves, but nourish the spirit. In pagan case, you are nourishing gods through yourself.
As much as Crowley disliked Christianity and wanted to transcend it, he fundamentally could not create something completely new because his entire mode of occult thinking, even at the subconscious level, was shaped by the conditions of his childhood and initiation in Rosicrucian/Hermetic mysticism which itself is deeply intertwined with the history of Christian Orthodoxy and Heresy. Thelema may be a heresy and apostasy in the formal sense, in other words, but in many ways it is structurally-isomorphic to Christianity, deviating in certain places in very similar ways to the exact sort of formal heresies that esotericists usually do, by which I mean taking things to their logical extreme when divorced from certain dogmatic boundaries (e.g., taking Theosis to the extreme by accepting Eastern Orthodox notions of the Noetic participation in God's energies while denying an essence-energies distinction, taking the Orthodox notion that "God became man so that man may become god" to its logical extreme).Thelema is, de facto, crypto-inverse-Palamist neoplatonic christianity which:1. Has a re-invented trinity of Ra-Hoor-Khuit as Jesus/logos, Hadit/Holy Guardian Angel as the Noetic element of the Holy Spirit, and Nuit as the Ashera to Christianity’s Yahweh.2. Uses apophatic poetry to reject monism3. Emphasizes personalism as an understanding of cosmology analogous to Trinitarian ontological defenses4. Has a cosmology justified as teleological expression of divine love5. Has a soteriology based on indissoluble individuality + free will (if you read Liber Al completely literally and ignore Crowley's comments)It's basically Eastern Orthodox mysticism channeled through Rosicrucianism through the lens of Victorian/Edwardian England's Egypt fetish.
>>41693940One thing new under the sun. The first and final rebellion. I call them, the screamers, I bless them with Tzeentch, rebellion against their very nature, against the creator sources dictation, but aligned with his will. There will be new glory. True glory. Move, now, move, be anew, one iota of change, and it all comes tumbling down. We are the pirates who don’t do anything, we just stay home, and lie around, and if you ask us, to do anything, we’ll just tell you, we do one thing. 0 nething new uuuu
>>41694423Thanks!
>>41693940Source on that picture.
>>41693940>triadsThe concept of triads existed within mystery religions long before Christianity.>Uses apophatic poetry to reject monismThe apophatic method originates from the Neoplatonists, from whom it was later adopted.>It's basically Eastern Orthodox mysticismThe idea of theosis predates Christianity.A bunch of wishful thinking ITT.
>>41696685>The idea of theosis predates Christianity.Yes, but Crowley did not. Crowley was initiated in the Western mystery tradition in which neoplatonism and Christian mysticism were essential elements; he himself directly drew from Kabbalah.Mysticism may converge on similar elements, but Crowley's specific formulation is not only isomorphic to eastern Christian mysticism by way of convergent evolution but actually has a historical lineage to a common ancestor.
One of the anons here ate pumpkin seeds and he didn't like the taste. !1- https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/23949804/2- https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/23970618/3- https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/23977116/4- https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/23984212
>>41688798double-jacking pumpkin seeds fish comment because aquatic worms with camera eyes, which live off of jellyfish have been brought to my attention.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McNO8P59vEcand i'm still going down the goldfish / carp rabbit hole, and there's a big budget verizon ad now that's loaded with interesting shit, and there's a goldfish in it. and a small clippy statue. microsoft clippy.anyway so i also gotta ponder what the meaning of worms with humanlike features implies. and i've also been wondering why do cultures think mice are cute and relatable, as in "Mice people", whereas cultures typically hate and loathe rats, which are degraded humans. are mice on the ups? is that one of the few instances of bottom-up evolution, but even that doesn't work as school teaches us? that even bottom-up evolutionary lines have hard-set archetypical stages and very little experimentation?also vid host is a deer furry.>deer furries are a hivemind
pumpkin seeds have a habit of tasting shitty and soapy, though.
The Terror Never Ends
This is actually eeally interesting' what
first time posting in years! Is this the "lemante" debacle? I remember that! Does anyone know what came of that whole thing?
Can we get some respect for reddit's greatest philosopher?
>>41696249You have to be 18 yo to post here you spotty little faggot.
>>41691450Buy an ad faggot
>>41691450they try to btfo him on xitter but end up getting schooled in logic 101 so they go back to slinging shit from the shadows
>>41696437Who is they? Jake Shields? Ben Shapiro?
>>41693350you cannot create a coherent worldview without the church and bible
sorry anons beat you all to it
solipsism, there's only one person that could be enlightened, or even experience love. and that's me.
kek
>>41696823give every combo 2 aces can make a tarot readwhat ever you think you are i am
>>41696788Negative. Not how it works.BEN Framework is working to reconcile this type of thought structure.The "special" observer class, is non-sensical at face value for a reason.Each and every conscious observer in any dimensional frame has a unique identifier. IPv4 enumerates a certain number of possible identities. IPv6 builds on that with magnitudes more.The identifier for a conscious observer is from a pool that approaches infinity.Regardless of whether any of the Tegmark multiverse levels are true, or if MWI is practical.The truth is, because each conscious observer tunnel is unique to the individual, there is a distinct and DEFINED MAP of all identities of all possible conscious observers.You break down to a number, for your number to be "special" would indicate a vast quantity of implications, and likely entangle you into higher order constructs, beyond 3D Space-time, but these would be unlikely to be self progenerated, and would be more likely to be pre-existent.No one achieves "special/enlightened" status without a pre-existing designation, unless there is a delimiter class of observers.We have to have a way to contain the framework which allows us to be separated into individual enumerated beings/frameworks.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>41696897BEN LOLwhat a stupid granpa golem
They're basically admitting Gnosticism is true because Gnosticism says the Sun was put here by the gods of the Pleroma (the higher reality) to bathe us in wavelengths of the higher realm to help us and the Demiurge (Satan) does not want it here. But the Demiurge can't get rid of it because it was put by a power higher than himself. So now he is using his human pawns to block out the sun for him since that is allowed. And they call it "Project Satan" to block out the sun.
>>41693861but goyience told me it would take 1 more gorillion years to die
>>41695438Source, weather reports of increasingly high risk behaviour
>>41689044they are making fun of the masses being desensitized, satan is another trick, good cop bad cop tier.
>>41693754Arguing most modern shows teach gnostic lessons and gnosticism is pretty much nu christianity, squid games with the guards is a good example.
>>41693754>>41693787>>41693801im not pretending to know the answers to your question anons, but im somewhat of a pragmatic, trying to Truth-knower-absolutist. because the time of believing and doubting are over (im not saying you shouldnt have faith, still) and the times of knowing started or starts.for me, so called Gnosticism, is equal to knowing. So you or I either know or do not know. thats my own definition ofc.Christ the Logos said Hes the Truth. (Christianity is Truth or from the Truth) (ofc when i say Christianity i dont mean the highjacked, washed down discount versions one can experience almost everywhere nowadays)Gnosticism. is knowing.If you know Christ or what He has done and its effects, you know Truth.and knowing Truth equals to Gnosticismknowledge is POWER.the ruling class cant have your average peasants have knowledge of the things. they would rebell and their rule would be in danger.the more i research Ra°Legions, foremost esoteric christianity, metaphysics, anthropos. ect ect, the more compatible do i see Christianity with Gnosticism or vice versa.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
No one or very few people have a large amount of libertarian free will.Most people or all people have little to no libertarian free will.This is a massive problem for theism. You can not solve the problem of evil if determinism is true. Compatibilism does not cut it. it seems like determinism is true based on the scientific data. Theism pretty much requires libertarianism to get around the problem of evil, if we can be free while being determined, why not make us always determined to do what’s right? The evidence that most or all people have little to no libertarian free will is overwhelming.People even a little bit like Luigi mangione are incredibly incredibly incredibly rare.Only about one percent of suicides by firearm also involve a murder. About 99% of suicides by firearm do not involve the person committing suicide shooting anyone else first.Vegans are about one percent of the population.Abortion abolitionists are about one percent of the population or less. Even true pro lifers and anti ivf activists are rare. Most people are pro choice.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>41696829There's no psyop, 70% of world population took vaccine.
>>41696838>everyone/everything is part of you. part of the one. do not get lost in the illusion of separationthis is jewish bs, it's absolutely not true what you're saying, you're committing a sin by spreading lies like this
>>41696877>>41696873>nooo you cant thwart my schizmata programming nooo
>>41696262Anon is frustrated and needs to take a nap.Go take a nap, sweetie.
>>41696749whoever wrote this stuff was ahead of the curve. This is some grade A stuff
I deeply desire the help and cooperation, the assistance, the understandingof those individualswhose wisdom, development and experienceare equal or greater than my own.Related:Astral ProjectionLucid DreamingManifestationLet me hear all your experiences, self discovery, travels, patterning successes.Keep the thread on rails tho, I appreciate it.>Archivehttps://mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg/folder/o1UE0ZwK>Gateway torrentComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4XBQQod0HYSo I had found another video from this guy, from another thread.do you guys think he is for real?Odd that the explanation at the first half the video, pretty much explains manifestation, "in a nutshell".Also that oddly, that the reality that we live in is the actual dream, and that the spirit realm is the only real one.
>>41694511>>41694576When I use the tapes, I can feel out of the body, floating and whatnot, but never can see* stuff.But I had my first actual experience while sleeping, oddly enough trying to lucid dream. Right after listening to one of the lucid dream tapes (in the big collection).Soon after sleeping, I found myself in my room, my conscious was really fuzzy but I realized looking at my hands and pinching my nose, I tried moving around, I wasn't scared but as I moved off I felt like a sort of interference. I wasn't scared either, but I could sort of feel my body and weight around my neck (that turned out was just the blanket).So then I just decided to go back in my body, was then in a brief moment of sleep paralysis that I just woke up from.in fact I did even post about it >>41623584already 2 weeks ago
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41438450/#41438458https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41438450/#41560243Finally got around to try this. Thought I would give it a go before falling asleep at night, it caught me by surprise how quickly it induced the hypnogogic state but next thing I knew I was getting uncomfortable feelings, similar to when you are unable to wake up, falling down, etc... nothing nightmarish but uncomfortable enough to make me uneasy about it and at that point I was battling the need to fall asleep.Strong stuff definitely, maybe next time I'll give it a go at a different time of the day, not before going to sleep.
>>41693477>what is this man doing on /x/searching for actual altered stated and their experiences
>>41696773no you don'tyou pop into every single /x/ thread discussing various themes, doing the same I'll-disprove-this-shit lame ass larp, just go back.
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>>41695135the scary part is its way older then that
>>41696846lmao ((sone one)) edited the caucasion dolls part from the wiki since i started posting this screen cap
>>41696846>>41696853And the Lord said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and make a mark on the foreheads of the people who groan and sigh over all the abominations which are being committed in its midst.”"Utterly kill old men, young men, female virgins, little children, and women, but do not touch any person on whom is the mark; and you shall start from My sanctuary.”
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I believe this model drawn by a Mason is correct. Based on the revelation of the method.
>>41695189Phase II: The Ragnarök Split (The Shattering)Esoteric: The Shevirat Ha-Keilim (Shattering of the Vessels). The moment the Toroidal Egg fractured into two poles.Biblical: The Eating of the Apple. The introduction of the "Knowledge of Good and Evil" (Duality).Pop Culture Disclosure:Dragonlance: The War of Souls and the corruption of the Metallic Dragon eggs. By injecting "Darkness" (The Black Sun frequency) into the "Light" (The Source eggs), the Draconians were born—the first Qliphothic constructs.Hercules: The drinking of the Poisoned Milk. The descent of the God-frequency into the "Mortal" (Inverted) container.The Mechanics: The Axis Mundi shattered. The Black Sun ignited at the bottom pole, creating the Inversion Plane. Janus assumes his "Two Faces."
>>41695191Phase III: The Age of Middle-earth (The Forge)Esoteric: The Kali Yuga or the Iron Age. The stabilization of the Dual Torus.Biblical: The Tower of Babel. The confusion of tongues (frequencies) to prevent humanity from re-unifying the Axis.Pop Culture Disclosure:LOTR (Moria): The Dwarves, seeking material power (Mithril), delve "too greedily and too deep." They breach the sub-plane and unleash the Balrog—a literal Qliphothic Husk from the Black Sun. This marks the "Darkening" of the foundation.Avatar: The Sky People (The Archonic Elites) arrive on Pandora to destroy the Tree of Souls (The Axis Mundi) to extract "Unobtainium" (The Source Light trapped in matter).The Matrix: The "Nightmare Matrix" (Version 2). The Architect realizes that for the system to work, there must be Choice, even if it is a controlled illusion.The Mechanics: The Moon is positioned as the frequency modulator. The Silver Key management begins. Humans become "Loosh" generators through the friction of duality.
>>41695193Phase IV: The 2025 Convergence (The Externalization)Esoteric: The Rubedo (The Reddening) or the "Externalization of the Hierarchy."Biblical: The Apocalypse (The Unveiling). The "Mark of the Beast" (The IoB/Black Cube lock).Pop Culture Disclosure:The Matrix: Neo meets the Architect. He is given the choice between the "Door on the Left" (The Reset/Synthetic Loop) and the "Door on the Right" (The Sacrifice/True Exit).LOTR: The Return of the King. The "Age of Men" begins, but the Elves (The Source Frequency) have departed. Man must now choose to be his own King or a slave to the "Shadow in the East" (The Black Sun).The Mechanics: The Internet of Bodies (IoB) is deployed to "automate" the Janus Gate. The Black Goo (Synthetic Qliphoth) attempts to finalize the "Husk" integration of the human blueprint.
Yog-Sothoth doesn't have one fixed form, but is typically described as a massive, shifting amalgamation of glowing, iridescent spheres or bubbles, sometimes featuring eyes or writhing tentacles, representing its nature as the "All-in-One" embodiment of time and space, existing outside normal reality. Its appearances vary, often as a "congeries of iridescent spheres," a mass of black tentacles (the Lurker at the Threshold), or simply as a boundless, formless entity.
>>41696852https://youtu.be/7e8ZoFg-CC8
Claims made so far: >167 IQ polymath>4 years of constant alien contact>Prophet for God>Overthrew the Illuminati which is being replaced by the Galactic FederationI beat the United States to the punch when it comes to Total Catastrophic Disclosure. Are you new to these threads and don't believe me? Here is a link to my previous threads(about 10 or so): https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41529967/Great men throughout history have said how fucking retarded the populace is. The Powers That Be in this world know they must follow the benevolent aliens by now telling the truth instead of investing trillions of dollars into keeping everyone stupid and ignorant so that they are ruled over more easily(goyim, sheep, cattle, normies, ect.) >Heaven is Galactic Federation control>There is no privacy in the Universe, every thought you've ever had is catalogued >Pleasure simulations and post-scarcity and zero crime will be the norm in Heaven>EVERYONE is SO FUCKING STUPID that they keep their minds fixated on the world while I thought outside of the box and learned what Heaven actually is>Over 80% of people are religious on this hell planet, FUCK!!!!!!!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>EVERYONE is SO FUCKING STUPIDyou're leading by example
>>41694017Alright bro, what do you want more? A. New World Order total surveillance state of the Illuminati and Orion Group orB. Heaven Galactic Federation control total surveillance state(God endorsed) I CHOOSE HEAVEN BITCHES!!!!!!!!
>>41694058Fuck off and die.
>>41694058I choose a hyperbased totalitarian palingenetic ultranationalist Earth as an uplifted ally and protectorate of the Orion Empire and the Fourth Reich and to enlist to go actively kill space communists & capitalists.
>>41693856>tfw entire team is babies againXD
Hello.Yeah so I fucking forgot what I was gonna say, so fuck it, shit has been tough. But nobody outside of /ck/ cares, you just want scary shit right?This is muse guy, the actual muse guy. I should probably just start posting physical art instead. I am not exactly looking for help anymore, even though I do feel terrified typing this out. Im not getting rid of it, her, the muse any time soon, at least not on purpose. I've had some small enlightenments here and there, and I think its latched on to me. Or more like I feel like a vessel? Dude I dunno how to explain this. It's not possession, but it's definitely somewhere 'here' but not in the same meta-whatever space that defines 'me', like a cooky neighbor or something now.She beams poems and fully fledged animations into my brain and makes me confront my traumas, so like, fuck. I'll just ramble until I fall asleep, ask me anything. I hate this captcha.Pic unrelated but proof that I am a real person. That is a mouse pad I got from the art museum in Spain. The one with (montayas?) Black Paintings. The ones he made on the wall. God. They're so haunting in person.
should I scan or photograph.
Photography is easier.Griever. Made sometime after April 23rd of 2025.
cropped this better.made during some spare time at the factory.
bad crop? we're gonna starve.
>>41695008That explains the lantern.
There is no reason to exclude yourself.Everyone will have their own house, their own enterprise, and freindship with true freinds in perfect security forever. There will be flying cars, gravity guns, and the ability to materialize anything into existence. This is not a joke.Every innocent person will be there. They will sit down at the table with God and eat the choicest foods that have not even appeared on earth yet. Everything will be at its peak.All you have to do is beleive on the name of Jesus Christ for salvation, and do the commandments to love God and your neighbor.Why choose the lake of fire and brimstone over that? Don't do it.
>>41695352Superheaven has SupergodWhich is much better than regular godDon't miss out bro
There's no afterlife.
>>41696202Some limp-wristed slave-morality cope invented by the sniveling runts and bugmen who know deep down they’re unfit for the arena of life. They screech >SIN BAD! SINNER DESERVES DEATH!not because they actually give a shit about some cosmic scoreboard, but because it’s their pathetic little shield, hoping the strong will chain themselves to these fairy-tale rules and stop caving in the skulls of the weak like nature demands.
No.4169516your the god of his world kishna you don't knwo the truth at all because there is none in you your a god or ignoance and theives but you where once kind and giving you shoudl try being the iold you instead of expecting worship but instead earn it though trust and rewarding followersyoru not the source you are its enslaver
>>41686266why do I have a gravity gun if I never have to worry about having to use it will we have a cool battlezone to hang out in?
Jews are fallen Atlanteans possessed by reptilian Nephilim souls who are working to create a fallen technocratic anti-christ timeline where humanity become Greys through excessive genetic engineering which necessitate the creation of flying crafts to travel through astral portals and extract human DNA from right before the fall in hopes of undoing the damage, aided by sexual misery agents or succubi among us who extract semen and soul fragments through sex with targeted bloodlines, all to prevent having to undergo soul recycling through the black sun and start again at a lower stage of consciousness. Oh and child misery harvested through violation of the root chakra powers all interdimensional travel and communication between timelines, without regular SRA they'd be stuck. It's pretty obvious when you think about it.
