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What was the cause and meaning of the Elisa Lam incident?

For those who do not know what this is, read this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elisa_Lam

I find the mainstream view of her having a skitzo episode to be bs, like how does that explain all the coincidences surrounding her death and how she got in there on her own? Some also say she was spirited away after playing a ritual game called the Elevator Game(for those who need another explanation:https://hideandgokill.fandom.com/wiki/Elevator_Game). Others still insist she was a sacrifice for a ritual or even that the whole thing was faked and not a legit incident, but rather a big Creepypasta.

I have to agree with the last one, there is no way a case has THIS many synchronicities and be legit. 'Coincidences' include, but are not limited to:

>The Last Bookstore's domain has a postal code in it's registration: "V5G 4S2". When plugged into Google Maps, it leads straight to Elisa's burial site in Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Canada.

>Complained about the use of the word c#nt on her Tumblr, and was found with the words "In fact she was a c#ut" graffitied near where her body was found

>Was interested in invisibility tech and posted about it, the hotel she was in, Hotel Cecil, was then found to be overlapped with an organization called The Invisible Light Agency

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Yea I haven't liked the 'mystery solves around her' story. It's too fucking weird
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>>41276230
Elisa lam chased the lamb too much
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There was an outbreak of a new strand of tuberculosis in the Skid Row area, and within a week teams were sent out to the area to do LAM-ELISA tests.

She was found in room 514 and In China, rooms marked 514 are avoided to stay in as it’s connected to suicide and death. 514 is pronounced Wu Yao Si , and is similar to Wo Yao Si, which translates to “I want to die/I want death”
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>>41276438
she stayed in room 514*
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That the so called "schools" are psyop everyone already know, but there's some kind of ritual to protect yourself from it? And I'm not lazy or anything, God already tell me that He don't want me there
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Chuddingson
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Education is a scam. All it is is a giant obedience test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsdQeAGakL0
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Being educated scientifically prevents you from getting laid
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>>41274550
Do you call me?
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>>41274620
'dont get educated , goy!'
By schlomo caplan

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Welcome to Divination General! Come here for readings and a discussion of theory/practice.
Every method is welcome: Tarot, Runes, Cartomancy, Scrying, Pendulum, Cleromancy, I-Ching, Digital, Oracles, Tasseomancy, Necromancy, etc.

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Will I get a boyfriend soon?
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AQ
Will R want to visit me before the end of the year?
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>>41276008
somewhat soon, not as soon as you want though
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Trading
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AQ
Will the white man take me out to food to talk? I want food out of it

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>Previous thread
>>41223521

>History of Halloween
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDbz6heh6-w
>Carving templates for Jack-o-lanterns
https://www.pumpkinlady.com/pumpkin-carving-patterns-stencils-templates-designs/
>Pumpkin Festival game
https://adamgryu.itch.io/pumpkin-carver
>Carnevil arcade cabinet working on Win10 and 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR0d44xpTYE
>Bone Chillers
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzovi87vDfzI6nPuvN_eekZGqzLT20hs3
>AVGN visits Sleepy Hollow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7RGxtDxRF4

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>I'll try to get some pics tomorrow
Cool, I always like seeing peoples setups.
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The 'machine elf' thing are actually trees. They cant move or speak so they evolved to communicate telepathically. All of your dreams and nightmares come from Trees trying to have fun with you, and it's possible that even the thoughts you hear in your head are trees as well
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>>41274210
is that why the Martians cut down all their trees?
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>>41274210
>Barrel scraped
This thread is shit-tier garbage.
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>>41274223
They're not "keen" on doing that. You're the one who decided to chill with them so of course if you vibe with them you're gonna pick up their vibes.
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>>41274325
The only machine elf I met was a salvia spirit that basically arrested and tormented me for what felt like forever because I burned it and they hate that. I wouldn't really say that we were chilling, but I get ehat you're saying.
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>>41274210
This is now a thread about the esoteric significance of trees.

Different tree species have different energies, one of my most spiritual experiences was being in redwood forests (both coastal and giant redwoods). There is something otherworldly and eternal about them. It feels like you are in the presence of ancient beings that exist outside of the normal flow of time.

Oak trees are very comforting to me, they feel strong and protective, which I think is why are are associated with Thor in Germanic mythology

The pic you posted is of a fever tree, so called because people that sat under them would get malaria, due to them growing near water. Theyre odd trees, not malevolent, but somewhat alien feeling.

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Can it be debunked?
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>>41275882
Aliens are real. Stop being in denial. Our whole world is changing right this second. "Debunk" if you want, but you will be judged for millions of years in the future by future humans and aliens that study this moment in time.
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>>41275798
DOGMA
It's fake. Are you 15 or did you country just get widespread internet access in the last decade?
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>>41275798
The only point against it being real is the low ambient lighting
But it hasn't been definitively debunked
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>>41275984
>low lighting to hide possible wired, rigs, puppeteers etc
>puppet-like movements
>lack of movement below the neck
are all points against it
however this doesn't PROVE that it's a puppet only that it seems like it could be one
It's been reported that abductees and other alien witnesses have mentioned that some types of aliens move robotically or like puppets
the subtle facial expression changes shown in the footage would be incredibly difficult for even a Hollywood level expert puppet maker and not to mention expensive (in the $100,000 USD range)
so who's going to spend that much money to produce an alien puppet for almost nothing in return? Victor only asked for 10 grand for his tape and his interview so he's making a huge loss if this was a money making scheme.
If it's not about money then maybe it's about sewing disinfo. Then who is behind it? Is this a CIA or some other alphabet agency operation? Why do this? No one has ever come forward to claim responsibility for making the alien interview footage in nearly 30 years. The more you start to analyze this footage the more questions it raises. It's frustrating.
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then there's this photo taken 8 years after Victor's alien interview footage which shows the exact same type of being.
The photo was allegedly taken by a security guard in an abandoned office building in Mexico.
It's extremely similar to the Victor alien however in my opinion the cheeks look a little fuller and it looks less sickly that the one in the interview footage.

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What made you believe in God?
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>>41276071
He was, but only tiny fragments of it are left in the Bible. The pieces are big enough to lead to other sources. What he taught was old, and nearly every word he spoke was to call the god of the Jews going ALL THE WAY BACK TO ABRAHAM AND JOB the Adversary/Devil/whatever term you prefer for the great evil that hates and corrupts mankind. He explicitly states even in the modern Bible versions that that god is not his Father, but as a direct consequence of their "faith" Christians have attention spans and memories too short and narrow to recall what he is referring to.
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>>41275368
I was homeless and staying in a shelter and was only trying to get some weed from some random strangers that were visiting one of the residents. The motivation was predominantly selfish.
I traded some food stamps for weed and they mentioned the only reason they were willing to do it was because they were desperately unable to get anything for their daughter's birthday. When I heard this I decided I would spend an exorbitant amount of what I had to get all kinds of vibrant flavorful sweets, cakes, and ice creams. I also bought each of the parents a foot-long sandwhich. Something in me made me do this.

That same morning I watched someone pray for a couple to receive blessings for themselves and their daughter that very morning during the shelter's daily service and shrugged it off as another prayer that will go answered.
I found out the next morning after getting my weed that the couple visited the prayermaker and explained that a total stranger saved their daughter's birthday by trading some weed for all kinds of sweets and food for a feast of a birthday. They just recently escaped homelessness themselves and it was the happiest birthday their daughter had since she was an infant.
That stranger was me.
I watched God answer a specific prayer for specific people right in front of me. Using my own sin as a tool, yet giving me enough of a conscience to seek goodness.

I broke down in tears when I realized God himself used me to make a desitute little girl smile. I still don't think I deserve such a grand divine place in his kingdom. I am not a good person and I still struggle greatly with mental illness. But he still said "You'll do."
I still can't even recount this story without weeping like a baby.

I want to say something poetic about God to end this post but I still struggle with my faith due to suffering myself.
All I know is that he is real and he cares for his creations. The pain we endure can't be meaningless. I am unable to see that as possible.
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>>41275368
i believe in an extra dimensional entity or entities that try to fuck with our minds just for fun and entertainment. Because we're only humans and they know better.
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>>41276388
>answering prayer for snacks or a parking space
>doable

>answering prayer of people about to be shot to death or starving in africa
>hmm I don't know about that
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>>41276406
Christcucks are eternal sycophants and ass kissers.

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what is the real history? the dark age never happened? Tartaria?
I have a hunch that the 'new world' was always known to the elite, and the years might be countered as 7000-8000 total instead of the cover up from 2000 years ago.. how did other civilizations calendarize their time like the chinese... I think Newton wrote a history book but i haven't read it.
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>>41276390
Isaiah 40:22 says "circle of the earth", AKA flat. Circles are flat.

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What's the one thing we can agree on and make an axiom of /x/?
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>>41276250
Roy Jay is not paranormal/conspiracy related and those people need to be banned. Same with nobody general posters
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>>41276264
this. also namefags like 'edna' just spamming vague open ended bullshit threads all day just to hear themselves talk.
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>>41276264
agreed.
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>>41276277
>>41276264
ageed.
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>>41276250
Cereal is a soup.

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Suggestions? Favorites?

Love both Baraka and Samsara.

I just started watching some of baraka today because i suggested it to a friend and i watched it all the way through it’s that good.
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>>41276009
Im born in 87 but watched it later in life
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>>41275970
Begotten
https://youtu.be/v1SkNS7vsEg?si=DWtl-qXaoyGjYg96
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Under the Skis is the weirdest alien movie I've seen. its really good
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>>41275970
in a similar vein, godfrey reggio's qatsi trilogy if you haven't seen it, fricke worked on one of them. if you're looking for more weirdness in the experimental/fine arts end of cinema, matthew barney also fits the bill. james benning's landscape suicide is a unique take on a serial killer documentary. speaking of documentaries, until the light takes us is about fucked up shit that went down in the black metal scene in norway in its early days

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>under the skis
the lesser-known sequel where she takes up a career on the slopes. maybe it's because I saw them on the same day, but I always think of this movie together with upstream colour, another good bit of weirdness (primer by the same director is also good especially for time travel autists).
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>>41275970
Hausu - 1977

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Yo people.
I plan to become Witch Supreme
For that I need to train
It's an opportunity to see your wish come true

>How does it work?
To put it simply, it's like healerannon, you tell your worries or not, a simple "help" is enough.
I am doing my best to help.

If you give me your impressions, your sensations, or even if you don't feel anything, dont be shy, tell me.
It helps me a lot to develop my potential


>How much does it cost?
Do you really want to pay me?

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>>41275942

I sincerely hope you'll get all this

If I manage to offer you such a gift, I will change my nickname to be called Edna mama witch
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>>41275991

I'll do my best to help you
Tell me if you see any positive/negative change
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>>41276053

Some luck for ya, and some confidence
Tell me if it worked
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EDNANON!!!!!
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>>41276166

Nonanon !!!!

Always a pleasure to be welcomed like this ^^

Multi-Millions of dollars in your bank account.
>what would you do with it?
Thread theme:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxW789jHXII

Paranormal money making using ghosts?
2nd thread theme:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8zdNe_l3M8

Would you stop being mad at God if you hit 100 million dollars in your life?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdwV5IkFCFg

I quit being a Christian and going to Church and I'm angry at God every day for having to pan handle as a schizophrenic who can't get a job. God should have blessed my lotto ticket when he had the chance. Now he lost his son, and I say, fuck Jesus, fuck Jehovah, and Holy Ghost depart from me! Lucifer make me rich! My will my desires in Satan so mote it be!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8_1QfFmcl8


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Racca time to go pan handle fuck u Jesus I need food and weed money and beer money
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i hate christcucks more than even jews i think
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>>41273814
theres never been a better time to kill a jew and live in his mansion off the infinite supply of gibs stipened onto the cards he had in his wallet
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I'm here to sage.

Sage.

No need to thank me.
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I really need money too. How can I earn at least $200 a month online? In my country, you'd have to do slave labor for that kind of money.

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HOW DID 2PAC WRITE THOSE LYRICS IN 1994 NO INTERNET ACCESS?
ALL THOSE SONGS HE EVEN TALKS ABOUT COMPUTER CHIPS AND ILLUMINATI
SHIT GOT HIM KILLED BACK THEN IN 1996
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>>41273607
and i guess respect and love your fellow man and shit like that. Schizos fail because even though they hate the anti christ they don't have the attitude of christ

Love without Truth and Truth without Love are incomplete
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He went to a school for the arts, he likely was around white people and computers in the 80s
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>>41273614
Considering you worship a cosmic Jew zombie, it makes sense why you’d focus on “nazis”. Yes the CIA has been infiltrating dissident groups since forever. And Hegelian dialectic useful idiot controlled opposition has been a thing since Marx. But leave it to christcucks to imagine a monolithic control system with a single goal, yet not realize they are the shabbos goyim of that self same system.
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>>41273307
no its not
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>>41273498
He’s right you are stupid.
When will an influencer do a 30 second (corporately sponsored) video to explain that to you so you can understand?

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This is another TI thread, meant to be a companion to the gangstalking one that is regularly posted. We talk a lot about the gangstalking. While the gangstalking does happen and worth discussing, I rarely see the gaslighting / psychological warfare aspects of the phenomenon brought up. Yet when it is, a lot of people find it interesting. So, ITT we discuss the gaslighting aspect of the TI phenomenon's experience.

Gangstalking is definitely unnerving or even dangerous, but it's this stuff that leaves the lasting damage, the reason why you slowly became more paranoid about *everything*, why you may be questioning your own intuition or self-agency, or any other aspect of your being that can be manipulated.

There is a lot of overlap with this phenomena and mental disorders as this phenomena tends to be so corrosive to one's wellbeing that disorders very easily begin to appearing after a few years, as it feeds into every paranoid wondering and pang of anxiety while simultaneously distracting and suppressing your awareness of alternate explanations, exploiting gaps in your perceptions or any evidence to the contrary to their narratives. The purpose of all this is to keep you distracted from the details of your life, so your relationships rot, your health rots, your mental wellness rots, everything rots so slowly it's hard to even notice. Especially with them keeping you wrapped up in the petty circular arguments they love to incite.

Please share what you've learned, or discuss whatever it is they're doing at the current moment. If anything, this could be used to vent, lol. Lord knows it helps.
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>>41275702

Gonna start this off by posting some long-winded thoughts, some text dumps and resources, and some explanations of things that more and more people are realizing about this phenomenon.

We don't know many specifics or have hard evidence beyond some audio recordings of these disembodied voices we all experience, so take this all with a heap of salt. Look to compare these experiences up against your own, see if anything stands out as eerily similar.

While they go out of their way to obfuscate every detail about themselves, observing how they behave for long enough nets some very interesting patterns, patterns that seem a near constant across every TI i've come across online and talked to. While one might believe it's supernatural and another thinks it's alien ghosts, they all agree that gaslighting is happening for one reason or another, and that is both incredibly hard to circumvent and ignore, and incredibly eroding at times.

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>>41275739
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Once we accept that this isn't some incorporeal being who is far from any possibility of harm, and instead humans doing things to a lot more humans using human technology, for all too human reasons.

There's a reason they so strongly imply and posture themselves as omniscient, omnipotent, etc., constantly, incessantly from every angle. It's the same reason that many TIs at the start are convinced they have a mental disorder as explanation for the disembodied voices, which sets them up discrediting labelling, dismissal, and generally bad times in the future. To achieve their goals, they must lie and misdirect, misinform, and send you barking up the wrong trees, so you never truly learn what this thing actually is.

This thing, what ever it is ultimately for, who ever is perpetrating it, hinges solely on plausible deniability absolute. Who is going to believe someone that says they are hearing voices, that nobody else can hear, saying the craziest things to that person? The obvious answer is mental illness, as far as the average person is concerned. This is coming from a place of having been there myself, but managed to figure out how things would play out and realized this was a phenomenon that is purely external to our bodies, and adjusted in time.
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>>41275750

Below are some links of some stuff I wrote this year. Mostly compiled journal entries and stuff that came out of researching other TI's claims and experiences, so you can hopefully use bits and pieces of what worked for me to help yourself overcome this. Forgive that it is on reddit, it's just for the highly visible free bulk text hosting where it won't get deleted in a week.
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist

Step by step breakdown of observed, distinct phases in the experience of being a TI, with inferred intent behind each. This one is probably the most important one.
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/phases-of-manipulation

More about the mental state they try to get you to settle into
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/deconstructing-the-victim-narrative

Before anyone brings up supernatural / extraterrestrial causes, sorry but it is definitely human tech. We're not going to have a derailment arguing over who done it; we're in here to discuss ways of dealing with it. We've been able to do crazy shit like remote neural monitoring since like 2012:
- Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves https://patents.google.com/patent/US3951134A/en
- Mobile user borne brain activity data and surrounding environment data correlation system https://patents.google.com/patent/US9101279B2
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/demystifying-the-technology
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>>41275752

How to tell the differences between genuine mental illness and the TI phenomenon experience
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/how-to-tell-if-you-are-a-ti
(A note on this one - this one swings both ways. If you ended up thinking you're a TI but your symptoms better align with a mental disorder, genuinely, please seek aid. It helps so much.)

How to manage their constant, malicious chatter. It's designed to cut you down, wear you out, and distract you relentlessly, but it can also be turned to your benefit. You'll find they stumble a lot when you take control of the narrative of your life and utterly disregard whatever they say in protest.
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/counter-storytelling/

This one was written by someone else, but it's hugely helpful so I included it here. It goes into the ways the V2K can be used to make someone think they're being gangstalked or harassed in person, when it's really just all remotely driven acoustic theatrics and, of course, gaslighting and social engineering and all that. Not to say gangstalking does not occur, far too many people report experiencing it to deny it, but this seems to be the case a large percentage of the time.
- https://www.reddit.com/r/TargetedSolutions/comments/1km67d9/a_reassessment_of_gang_stalking_through_the_v2k/
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Welcome to the Semen Retention General!
«Steel Exposure» Edition!

Previous Thread >>41250185

All Previous Threads: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/subject/Semen%20Retention/
>What is Semen Retention?
Semen retention is the practice of completely abstaining from masturbation and ejaculation, often with the intention of preserving and redirecting vital and sexual energy to oneself.

>Why do it?
Reported benefits include: increased vitality, mental clarity, reduced stress, increased motivation, increased energy, improved focus, healthier hair/skin/eyes, deeper meditation, improved AP/Lucid Dreams, deeper voice, improved mood, greatly improved testosterone, improved physical strength and many more.

>Wet Dreams?
They happen because you had a sexual dream and you coomed. Learn to be conscious on your dreams and stop the succubus.


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On day 23 bros, I experienced something today. Today I had two passionate make out sessions with my gf and I didn’t feel lustful at all.
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Sippy time
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>>41272048
Back to day 1. It's an uphill battle.
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>>41273275
gnome user, ayy? I'm running fedora 42 as we speak (im not sure how to feel about it. got so used to pacman, dnf is painful to learn rn)
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>>41272336
Ok Mr Merchant, I won't! ;)


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