Imagine all the animals that live here that we will never know about because of the murderous natives
>>5081755Just another term for "saving face" or any other bullshit honor culture, except 4chan hates it cuz pajeets. It's cholo behavior. A nigher moment. Every culture that has so poor and lacking individual progression reverts to this retarded idea of personal honor and violent reaction to being slighted.
>>5081757>>5081992Sirs you have just cost india izzat
>>5081755A uniquely demented zero sum shared honor system where honor itself doesnt exist and its half about insulting and not insulting people and things associated with them, half about bragging. Cheating, lies, etc are acceptable methods of reclaiming izzat (jugaad). It’s why indians brag so much and argue in this form>I like my cat/dog>SOMEWHERE A CAT/DOG BAD ONCE>what does that have to do with->CATS/DOGS BTFO AND NOW YOU ARE A KEKThis is an izzat challenge. It looks like aggressive, irrational nonsense but this is their culture.
>standard 4chan assholery that has been here since the begining of Usenet>this is uniquely Indian!
>>5081992Pajeets stand about because they are comically stupid and disgusting
Would it be even possible for Cenozoic terrestrial mammals to live side by side with dinosaurs?
>>5081733Don't need any different epochs, my seed world uses purely extant animals.
>>5081733absolutely. probably pretty readily even.
>>5081733Not really, because dinosaurs and mammals operate off of two different megafauna memes.>dinosaursBones are light, so everything can grow big including predators. Herbivores vacuum up all available plant matter at all levels of the forest.>mammalsBones are heavy and more emphasis is put in raising and protecting young. Predators frequently use packs or stealth since they can't grow as big as herbivores. Herbivores rarely grow large enough to consume all levels of a forest. Elephants and giraffes being the big outliers in the modern day.Overall megafauna memes are at an end thanks to Humans. Dinosaurs would be considered a huge nuisance in the modern era, it's fine to have Elephants in a national park for the tourists, but imagine Sauropods migrating through North America or T-Rex lumbering around your neighborhood as if it were a bear. They'd have been shot on sight in the 19th century, and some rando would be moaning on /an/ how we were so short sighted to wipe them all out.
>>5081733Love pics like this, watermarks ruin it though.
>>5081969Not all dinosaurs were big yk
How many species are there where the males are more beautiful than the females?
>>5081451Beauty is subjective but it is also true that most people find butterflies more aesthetically pleasing than rotting carcasses
>>5081506Lol
>>5081467>>5081506Well, ok look you are right but for the wrong gay reasonsMen are objectively the more beautiful sex. It is true. When you look beyond your human sexual wiring that is. You can see that men's bodies are much more roust, larger and aesthetic where as woman's bodies just don't really have much going on. They have fat hanging from their chests to feed infants, but that is functional. Now of course as men we find women's bodies attractive, but objectively, their bodies are actually quite boring and dull when you think about it. Don't believe me? Go have a wank or two and then compare men's and women's bodies
>>5082047>roustrobust*
>>5081453Shut the fuck up pseud
Goats are cool.
thank you goats
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>>5078786>>5078644I do think they make the coolest sound among all animals ever
>minuscule, solitary hunter>has a ridiculously small brain, with mere 60 thousand neurons>so called "scientists" say they're able to plan ahead, scan their surroundings, deceive and keep a mental image of their prey for up to one hour even after losing sight of themDo you guys seriously believe this shit?
>>5081766What if one of its arms has ADHD though?
>>5081767just give it some ritalin
>>5081641The base spider-plan is a very good one in nature considering they've been around for an extremely long time, so to diverge from what's typical for spiders is significant and notable.Jumping spiders in the 'portia' genus can and will mimic the "mating password" of multiple male web-building spiders on the webs of the respective female. Where the male taps and plucks on the web to see if the female spider is receptive.also these spiders do not specialize, so they (probably) are not purely instinct-driven.
>>5081772>also these spiders do not specializeI mean, they DO specialize in hunting other spiders, but there's such a wide variety of different spiders that require different strategies to hunt that Portias can't just rely on instinct alone
>>5081767That arm (and the rest of the octopus) leaves the gene pool until all the ADHD genes are extinct.
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>>5080673It fails to recognize the vegans gaytheist religion>moral value is based on smartness! of course i am smarter than you i care about being consistent with my ethics (which are correct and the only ones that aren’t evil) and in theory alien invaders would spare me because they would respect my logicality. like in star trek. >^THIS IS WHAT VEGANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
>>5080675Do these retards not know aliens steal cows and return them with prime cuts and tasty organs missing? Zorglax is up there making brats (earth’s finest creation - but they benefit from some added brain matter for moisture and complexity)
>>5080677Are you vegan?
>>5080027Whenever someone makes this argument I think about that one vegan protester who said her spirit animal was a wolf but that she'd be a vegan wolf.The people who do the most for the preservation of animals are ironically hunters, they generally have a much more deep appreciation for them. Nature is cruel and unforgiving, a cow lives a relatively comfortable life and is killed comparatively gently. The species is ensured survival based on this. Humans are also the only species that in their existence may entirely eliminate the need for animals to be culled for meat, not just for themselves but across the board. I don't think you can really love animals and be against eating them, otherwise at a basic level you dislike an aspect innate to animals.Would it be good if the meat industry was more ethical? Yeah. It'd also be good if the world wasn't polluted, habitats weren't decimated, and African children didn't have to labor away in lithium mines. But vegans still eat avocados and post this sort of low IQ garbage from their iPhones. If you want to claim moral superiority stop existing as that is the only way to end your life's exploitation of other life, otherwise don't pretend like your token effort to make yourself feel better about the nature of existence puts you above others.
>>5080320>bloodmouthsDamn you're making eating meat sound a lot more badass than it actually is.
yuletide fonxing editionfox in this thread or you're on the knotty listcold fox who wants to come inside: >>5075247
>>5080430I love foxes bros They're the cats of dogs
>>5082001Sir, I don't think that applies to foxes
>>5081858You should get your wires in check bro u know what I do I use zip ties do they have them in Russia? R u in Siberia?
>>5082001>neither fun nor factです 終わり だ。。。
Miss P! Didn't think you would be here!
>>5082044What the fuck where did that dog go is he okay?
Post birds, appreciate birds
>>5077213sick
>>5003749Had a honey eater come by today
The supreme victor of evolution.
>>5076687The wasp ancestors were so visually, obviously wasps, that if one flew in your face today you would call it a wasp. They are wasps.It’s not a stretch until someone starts saying all insects are shrimp, which is like saying all terrestrial vertebrates are fish, even though their gill arch derived structures are so twisted up they look nothing like a fish beyond having a spine, a skull, and "bony fins" (feet and hands) but at the end of long complex stalks unlike anything ever seen in fish.
>>5076504Not really, they're too small and too genetically bottlenecked since they're eusocial.They have succeeded in their niche but they're no humans.
They are just lame-ass floor wasps. Spiteful, angry. Nobody wants to be a shitty ant, but everybody wants to be a wasp. Countless insects mimic wasps. Even spiders, who are supposed to eat insects.
>>5081312No, saying ants and wasps are both the same family is like saying humans are apes.That family is not called "wasps".You are wrong.
>>5081986>No, saying ants and wasps are both the same family is like saying humans are apes.which is also completely true, so spot on analogy there actually.>That family is not called "wasps".technically true, in the absolute most meaningless way possible. it's impossible to group all wasps together without also including all ants and bees. so either "wasps" don't exist, or ants and bees are wasps.
Discuss discus, fish, plants, inverts, your favorite fishtubers etc.Freshwater, saltwater, and anything in between.Tank Cycling:>www.modestfish.com/how-to-cycle-your-aquarium/Stocking and Water Change Calculator:>www.aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php>https://finscape.us/>www.hamzasreef.com/Contents/Calculators/EffectiveWaterChange.phpArticles and Care Guides:>www.seriouslyfish.com/knowledge-base/>www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/>www.aquariumcoop.com/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>5080838I finally had my first encounter with detritus worms a couple weeks ago not knowing what they were and went through the process of panicking about it until my fish ate all of them.
What should I look into if I want to buy a camera to take better pictures of my fish and shrimp?
>>5082035The camera isn't the issue. You could buy a pro DSLR or mirrorless camera for $5k and you'll still be taking shit pictures. The problems are generally lighting and reflections.1) You may find your pictures to be blurry and think it's a camera problem. It's not. It's a low light problem. You may think your aquarium lights are really bright, but they are nothing compared to daylight, thus your phone is automatically increasing ISO (which adds noise) and lengthening shutter speed (which causes blur). Turn your tank lights all the way up and consider even supplementing it with other directed overhead lights (i.e. spotlights, not room lights and DEFINITELY NOT camera flash).2) Turn off/shade all the ambient/room light in order to decrease reflections. This is tricky because of #13) Learn a little about focal distance. Pressing the camera may seem like a good idea to avoid reflections but your lens may not be able to focus on something that close, and you will invariably have greater geometric distortion shoving your face and phone up against the glass like an autist. 4) If you want to spend some money, get a polarization filter. This will cut out reflections quite a bit but there is a tradeoff of a bit of received light attenuation. It is well worth it though.5) If you want to spend even more money, get a macro lens attachment for your camera (they're actually not very expensive for phones, mine came in a set with filters for reef tanks and it cost $30) and you should be able to get much closer to your subject without focus issues.6) Clean your shit. REALLY CLEAN it. Make sure your glass is absolutely spotless. Do a big water change, make sure the glass is clean while the tank is drained, use water clarifiers. Whatever you can do to get absolutely clear water and glass, it will help immensely.
>>5082045>>5082035OOH, forgot to mention: 7) Don't freehand your camera. Preferably use a camera stand, but setting it up against a chair and books or whatever you can cobble together is fine. Similar to #1, you may think you're steady: you're not. The more your camera has to rely on picture stabilization, the higher chance your picture will come out like shit.Also 8) You can always isolate your subject in a small box. It's super easy to take pictures of fish/inverts in a tiny water box, but then you won't have any scenery.
>>5082035I just bought a cheap clip on lens for my shitty smartphone camera and was pretty happy with the results compared to the blurry stuff I was getting before. You can spend thousands on cameras and stuff but I don't think you'll get a good outcome without a load of research. With the clip on there are limitations with focus distance but otherwise they turn out good.
Welcome to /plant/, the happy green place on this blue board, where growers, gardeners and horticulturists share their love for things that grow.Newbies and amateurs are very welcome, and we’ll always try to answer your questions.>Flora of the Worldhttp://www.worldfloraonline.org/>Plants of the World Onlinehttps://powo.science.kew.org/>Hardiness zoneshttps://www.plantmaps.com/>Plant ID Siteshttps://identify.plantnet.org/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>vendor reply immediately on order request>slow to reply when ask about plant damage/>sent proof>4 days no reply Tales as old as time, time to publicly shame them on their live sale again.
>carefully ration out space and prebuy trellis materials for nightshade patch>just enough room for each species>order the seeds>as a free gift, a second completely different variety of tomatoes!
I have planted over a thousand rose seeds
>>5080049This is how I feel posting in this general sometimes. I want to talk about plants in depth with someone. I want to talk about potato varieties. I want to talk about plant evolution and taxonomy. I want to talk about prehistoric plants. I want to talk about foraging and making wild food. I want to talk about plant anatomy. But it's just a bunch of weenies who bought a house plant and don't know how to look after it and have come to ask a stupid question they could find the answer to with a simple 5 minute search
>>5081108Not really any gardening channels but I watch a couple of channels about wild plants if that's any good to youhttps://www.youtube.com/@offalyheritage/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/@UKWILDCRAFTS/videosYou got any more gardening channels?
I have a neighbor who is always complaining about my dog barking but I've been noting all the times my dog barks and it's only about once an hour, usually just a few barks and it's mostly inside my house. It's way below what the local laws say is too much barking and he almost never barks early in the morning or late at night. What can I do to get this dog hating faggot off my case?
>>5080685Someone is literally with my dog every second of the day. It's actually an issue because we've been so paranoid about barking that we don't leave him home alone, ever. If we can't look after him for a day we take him to a dog sitter.Luckily my wife and I are very socially introverted and if we can't go to some event because we can't bring our dog with us then we don't really care
>>5078958This some HOA shit or something?
>>5078958i could definitely understand why it would be annoying for your neighbor. they didn't choose to own a dog but are subject to dog barking anyway, especially if its a couple barks every single hour, i get their frustration. my family has a dog and i'm aspie so i get annoyed a lot when he barks because i prefer quiet 24/7. this in no way means your neighbor is a dog-hating psycho, it's like people on this board are physically incapable of having neutral opinions on dogs or cats and its 100x more autistic than being annoyed by constant barking noises kek
>>5082002>im an aspie>couple of barks an hourI do not care what you think or feel.When given a choice between demanding that the world bend to your disorder, and taking your meds, take your meds, mutant.
>>5079160>barking wolvesWolves don't bark. Even their non-howling vocalizations still sound like awooos. Think Husky vocalization but less derpy.
Just finished watching it. There is an indication of a season 2 like last time, but just an indication.Genuine positives:>Smilodon and Mammoth scenes>Gigantopithecus is the GOAT!>Humans teased in the last episode>Overall visual porn>Some other scenes here and there, kinda subjective>There are kindo of subtle homages to WWB and paintings of Charles R. Knight, but that might just be me not seeing things as they areNow to whining lol. Only thing that sticks out is basically just the visual porn of it all and high quality models and animations. Story telling is all over the place and pacing is the same as with last two seasons, but it doesnt seem to work here that good for this period and these animals.There is an awful lot of patterns you will notice while watching, like constantly:>Single mother and children scenes occupy majority of every episodeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Homotherium actually hunted mammoths by targeting their pressure points with lightning-fast palm strikes infused with chi. There is no evidence for that but we can't rule out the possibility, this shit happened like a million years ago or something.
>>5081042Thylacoleo invested entirely into bite force and forgot about speed. Procoptodon was just cursed from the start
>>5081714>Actually it's a specific comparison between specific animals about their specific sizesYou don't seem to understand that this is where your comparisons fall apart as evidence. You can't make specific comparisons when one side of the comparison has never been observed in the flesh. It's completely lop sided to correlate animals we can directly observe the feats of to animals we can only make estimates around based on preserved fossils. Trying to use "Simple numbers" to make objective conclusions about paleontology is something you simply can't do. This isn't a math problem.>I don't think you understand how science works. Nothing has zero probability. But we still don't put creationist ideas in documentaries or even entertain them even though "the probability isn't zero."An animal we already know for certain was capable of tackling large prey, hunting an even larger animal than they usually would, doesn't go into creationist territory at all. I'm not sure what you think the standards are for documentaries, but filmmakers catching a rare behavior on camera don't just go "Well we can't use this footage, it's too anomalous to what these animals usually do".
>>5081828>Trying to use "Simple numbers" to make objective conclusionsHoly shit you are impossible. This isn't about what "objective conclusions" you can draw about numbers. It's about whether you can even acknowledge the numbers themselves. Let me break it down for you.>Homotherium can hunt "big male" mammoths>The largest prey lions can hunt are subadult elephants>A mature bull woolly mammoth is ~5 times the size of a subadult elephantDo you disagree with any of these statements?>doesn't go into creationist territory at allIt does when you have no evidence and use the same arguments as them to justify your belief.>but filmmakers catching a rare behavior on camera don't just go "Well we can't use this footage, it's too anomalous to what these animals usually do"You can use that comparison if you want if it makes yourself feel better so you can tell yourself "even though paleontologists say this didn't happen we might find evidence of it later" while ignoring that there's no evidence that anything remotely close to this was done by any animal ever. It's like imagining a land animal that can run multiple times faster than a cheetah. Sure, if we find evidence that such a creature existed, we wouldn't ignore it for being too anomalous (notwithstanding that it'll be highly scrutinized before being accepted since it's such an extraordinary claim), but that's if. You can imagine all sorts of amazing scenarios.
>>5081877>Holy shit you are impossible. This isn't about what "objective conclusions" you can draw about numbers. It's about whether you can even acknowledge the numbers themselves. Let me break it down for you.Whether the numbers can be acknowledged or not is still you trying to make an objective conclusion about them. Something which, again, we can't calculate due to the gaps of information in paleontology. Comparing homotherium to a lion tells us nothing about how the former would've specifically functioned in the flesh, beyond the broadest characteristics. (Like if felines could potentially pack hunt or not, if they were tackling large prey in general, etc.) Trying to tease out exact statistics from broad concepts is a fools errand.>You can use that comparison if you want if it makes yourself feel better so you can tell yourself "even though paleontologists say this didn't happen we might find evidence of it later" while ignoring that there's no evidence that anything remotely close to this was done by any animal ever. It's like imagining a land animal that can run multiple times faster than a cheetah. Sure, if we find evidence that such a creature existed, we wouldn't ignore it for being too anomalous (notwithstanding that it'll be highly scrutinized before being accepted since it's such an extraordinary claim), but that's if. You can imagine all sorts of amazing scenarios.Paleontologists never said it didn't happen, because even they know it's subjective territory with no black or white answer. If anything it's your claim that would need future evidence to cement itself, as what we have now can't give the definitive answer you insist exists.
>cows domesticated since they provide meat, milk, and leather>they also make plowing the fields easier as beasts of burden->chickens domesticated since they provide meat, eggs, and feathers>they also scratch the ground which prepares it for planting as well as eat pests in the garden->bees domesticated since they provide honey and beeswax>they also help pollinate crops which increases their yield heavily when it comes time to harvest->carp domesticated since they provide meat and thrive in poor water conditions eating waste>they also were introduced into rice paddies as a primitive form of aquaponicsIs there any reason why every animal we domesticated """mysteriously""" also helps out with agriculture? Seems kinda fake to me tbdesu.
probably because we only really domesticate animals that we can use yes paleoschizo, the holes in your brain dont stop that people bred them for ratting, no matter how bad they are at it in your copeyour mental illness doesnt overwrite fact, and you wont make it past 50 so it doesnt matter
>>5081920How does cats having no working purpose equal hating cats? Making food tasty is useless. Do I hate food?>>5081924Who the fuck is paleoschizo and if people bred cats for ratting, why is their entire history that of being left to their own pissy devices until spay and neuter made keeping indoor cats possible? Cats were not bred at all. They were domesticated and the stank stopped there because their effect on rodent behavior fooled retards well enough. Now we have veterinarians and science, and they are finally being bred for something, and that something is looking cute and being fluffy.
>>5081924Rent free lmao.
>>5081796Morphologically the difference between a cro magnon and a fully modern human is roughly the same as the difference between a wolf and a dog.
>>5081850I know this gets posted here alot but I kinda find it hard to believe that every human civilisation that kept cats as pets were this wrong about cats being pest control
