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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

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>>18177451
Whomstve

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>The 1891 New Orleans lynchings were the murders of 11 Italian Americans, immigrants in New Orleans, by a mob

>It was the largest single mass lynching in American history.

>Most of the lynching victims accused in the murder had been rounded up and charged due to their Italian ethnicity.

Thoughts?
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They lynched Italians literally one time because Italian organized crime was causing panic and havoc in New Orleans and they killed a Police chief with a sawed off shotgun. They kinda had it coming

Same shit with Sacco and Vanzetti.They were part of a terrorist group that committed several murders and terrorist attacks in the USA. And they got rightfully executed.

Wops love to claim anti-italian racism was a thing but they will never tell you they behaved like literal shit when they immigrated to the USA
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>>18177437
TRVKE
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Based
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If you actually look into this story, the mob that killed them was multiracial, full of blacks and coloreds as well as whites. One of the leaders of the lynch mob was James Lewis who was a mixed race black advocate. The most high profile person they killed was Joseph Macheca who was a Confederate veteran and rich local Democratic Party megadonor who ran a white supremacist street gang called The Innocents that intimidated blacks and Republicans in New Orleans.

>the last Byzantine emperors tried to impose Catholic rule over the Eastern Church
That explains why it fell, it was divine punishment.
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>>18177223
They degraded back to gayreek when they backstabbed Romanos Diogenes
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>>18175581
Incorrect conclusion
This explains it all
https://youtu.be/WCURDSRz6D0?si=kP1TOw50RkN8lgY9
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>>18175585
Greeks contributed significant forces to the Battle of "Lepanto" (Nafpaktos). It was not only the Venetians and Spanish.
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>>18177231
>Romanos Diogenes
Better for everyone if he died in battle.
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>>18177294
even better if his cunt brother and corrupt Byzantine elites had not fucked over a perfectly capable emperor

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What is the evolutionary purpose of this?
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Evolution is a fairytale for grownups

The Secret Jewish History Of Sports Gambling

Arnold “The Brain” Rothstein was probably the most notorious Jewish sports gambler of all time. He first focused on horse racing, in which his wide net of informants trading inside information helped establish him as a kingpin of organized crime in the early 20th century, making him a millionaire by age 30. And though it’s still a matter of some controversy, Rothstein is generally credited with one of the biggest sports bets of all time: the so-called Black Sox Scandal of 1919, in which someone — Rothstein? — paid the Chicago White Sox to deliberately lose the World Series to the Cincinnati Reds. The fix paid off handsomely to those who bet on the Reds, including Rothstein himself, who nonetheless was never indicted for the crime.

But Rothstein was just one of a long line of Jewish sports gamblers, dating back at least as far as Dr. Robert Underwood, who, according to the New York Times, is considered the founding father of modern bookies. “Doc Underwood, as all gamblers knew him,” wrote The Times, “sold his first pool in 1855 in New Orleans on a match race between the horses Lexington and LeCompte and later ran a betting operation out of the basement of the United States Hotel in Saratoga Springs, N.Y.” According to Leonard Jay Greenspoon’s “Jews in the Gym: Judaism, Sports, and Athletics,” Underwood was followed in the profession in subsequent years by several prominent members of the tribe, including Sol Lichtenstein, Abe Levy and Kid Weller.

https://forward.com/culture/401071/the-secret-jewish-history-of-sports-gambling/
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>>18176814
They are the people of the Bible, just watered down with significant European admixture. No, they're not Sicilians. You don't seem to understand clustering vs autosomal admixture.
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>>18177230
lmao no they're not
Titus and Hadrian wiped out the original Ivdaean population
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>>18177251
a small amount of them remained, there are pockets of authentic original Jews in Israel who have lived there all that time but yes about 90% of them are fakers of various kinds, often Arabs who posed as Jews in the 60s to obtain Israeli citizenship (ie. most Mizhrai) and Palestinians aren't native Levantines either they're Bedouin squatters who came after the Roman revolts.
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>>18177251
That's literally israeli propaganda
Most Jews remained in Palestine and were never expelled, then converted to Islam. Most of the Jews who left weren't forced out but emigrated to cities around the Roman Empire for economic reasons.
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>>18177308
what most jews?
Titus slaughtered 500k (the Romans counted fighting age men only)
Hadrian 50 years later over 600k (considering he brought 12 legions, literally half the standing army etc.)
How many people did Ivdaea have originally?
It was a poor and semi-arid backwater, not populous Egypt or Mesopotamia

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What is with these Afrocentric Facebook pages? like anytime I log in theres a post saying thing likes
>Egyptians were black
>First jews were black
>Native Americans wuz black
>The Chinese wuz black and so on
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>>18177166
This is something usually only seen with diaspora blacks in the US and Carribean. They do this because most of them do not know their own history and nor did their forefathers since they came from many different tribes and nations that were all dissolved into one "black" group in the new world, their languages faded away and their captors had no interest in teaching them their history so that they may feel an attachment to something else. They were also imbued with a sense of inferiority by their new captors and the new racial caste system they found themselves at the bottom of. In subsequent years they developed folk lore explaining their origin, wanting more dignity than merely being a race of slaves so they turned to the only African group they had really ever heard of which was the Egyptians and their most famous leader, Cleopatra who they decided were their ancestors since these were the only Africans they really knew about. In the Carribean they became obsessed with Ethiopia as it was the only unconquered African nation, thus they created rastafarianism which declared Haile Selassie to be the second Christ. After the Egyptian obsession they started adding random other groups in, like the Moors (also African so its probably the 2nd most popular), the jews and then just totally random groups like native Americans. Ultimately by doing this they are betraying their own ancestors and insulting their memory by claiming to be something than they are, which is a mix of west and central African ethnicities. In my view the solution would be for nations with diaspora blacks in the new world to teach a little bit about the histories of the various African groups before their transportation to America. This would give them a sense of pride and a more realistic outlook on history
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>>18177413
Explain the moor's head, anon.
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>>18177421
>Middle Ages painting. Reproduced in Lebedel, "Les Croisades, origines et consequences", p. 108
Author: Nafri kek
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>>18177421
The moors did have some black slaves and slave soldiers among them, many of whom were later freed and became regular soldiers. These slaves were taken as part of the wider trans Saharan slave trade between the Berbers, Arabs and Sahelians. Kings like Mansa Musa would have sold many slaves to the northerners and the Morrocans took many slaves during their southern conquests and there is still a black population there to this day as there is throughout the muslim world.
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>>18177166
American Niggers really want to be everything except low caste West African tribesmen.

How is it possible that south america countries (mainly Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay) seemed like European territories in the 1920s and 30s, but today they're a shithole (brownies paradise)? I think it's a clear case of jewish intervention.
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>>18175176
Uruguay isn't that bad though.
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>>18175176
>seemed like European territories in the 1920s and 30s
What Euro territories? Lisbon was a shithole, London was smog incarnate. You need to specify.
>today they're a shithole (brownies paradise)?
It always was "brown".
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>>18176733
Thay have abnormally high suicide rates
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>>18177387
That's what so called state laicism does to a nigga
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>>18177397

So, is all Christian art really just re-packaged pagan Greco-Roman stuff?

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>None of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father, which is the nakedness of your mother; she is your mother, you shall not uncover her nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s wife; it is your father’s nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your sister, your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether brought up in the family or in another home. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your son’s daughter or of your daughter’s daughter, for their nakedness is your own nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s wife’s daughter, brought up in your father’s family, since she is your sister. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s sister; she is your father’s relative. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister, for she is your mother’s relative. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s brother, that is, you shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law; she is your son’s wife, you shall not uncover her nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother’s wife; it is your brother’s nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of a woman and of her daughter, and you shall not take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter to uncover her nakedness; they are relatives; it is depravity. And you shall not take a woman as a rival wife to her sister, uncovering her nakedness while her sister is still alive.
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>>18177494
Doubt it, since it never got so bad they had to invent a fake prophet to lecture the populace about their degeneracy
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>>18177495
>>18177498
I’ve met and raped Krishna in a past life. He told me to tell you you’re a gay loser.
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>>18177500
They did do it, they just didn't see anything wrong with it. They thought all of their gods were fucking their relatives.
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>>18177508
So did the greeks
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>>18177515
Yeah, who were pagans too, plus all the pedophilia and faggotry.

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All of American Blues Music, Country Music, Bluegrass Music and Folk Music came from West African Blacks.

https://youtu.be/lzt0v9roU6g?si=DHxriLL1tCxLs4ID

Everything from American culture came from blacks
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>>18177253
Country music originates mostly from traditional British folk music especially that of the Ulster Scots, of course blacks partook in this and made many great innovations to it but it does not mean they invented it, there is no shame in admitting this its not like blacks were in an easy situation
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>>18177321
If you are ignorant about music history then spare us of your cope, racist loser. The only original music composed by whites was classical, mostly autistic Germans along with some medieval French and renaissance Italians.
The most renown popular music was composed or heavily influenced by blacks. Country music in particular is a blend of European folk with African (eg. 12 bar blues).
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>>18177454
country music sound is fucking white. Black music is soul as fuck. not bling bling like country music.
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>>18177470
Bling bling is bluegrass and that’s all out combing all different kinds of folk music when its available. But bluegrass isn’t folk
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Wrong. English folk ballad traditions pre-dates the US by hundreds of years. Google the Child Ballads. Barbara Allen is vastly older than anything called bluegrass or blues.

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The Nazis hated "degenerate art" but you can argue that Nazi art was a degeneration of Classical stuff. It's tasteless chud stuff. Their propaganda looked degenerate and low IQ as well.
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Hitler himself was pretty bad at painting faces and the human form. I always wondered if the seething over degenerate/bolshevik art just stemmed from some sort of inferiority complex. His landscapes and paintings of buildings were decent. He unironically should’ve been an architect.
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>>18177488
>88
He just needed to practice more. Painting is hard, and he needed more time to get his technique down.
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>>18177474
Cope Juden.
Go watch Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph Des Willens or Olympia.
Or don't, witnessing true beauty might cause you to evaporate like a vampire exposed to sunlight.
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>>18177506
>Brekkerslop
You will never be Greco Roman.
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>>18177488
I actually like this painting. But yeah normally he could only paint buildings

Did ja doos blow it up then? It's one of those things you don't hear much about despite it most probably being sabotage that caused it. I would be surprised if flying a swastika airship over jew york WOULDN'T provoke some extreme reaction.
>Remember what they took from you
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>>18175821
Where's the proof it wasnt jews?
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>>18175800
Sorry i don't like bringing THEM up but it just happens to go that way when i think about any random invention
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>>18175821
Ok but who else is going to sabotage a nazi balloon on US soil in 1937 while the average American still couldn't give two shits about Germany
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>>18177162
>the Helium act of 1925
Holy fuck its real.
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>>18175786
Everyone tried to make airships a thing. America, France, Germany, Britain all have stories of great airships that killed important figures in their field, or a grand catastrophe like this, or both.

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>god stared at this for billions upon billions of years before making anything else
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>>18177351
It's a beetle world. You're just living in it.
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>>18177351
In God's defense I would just like to point out that pic is rad as fuck.
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>>18177351
What did they do to earn three mass extinction events, bros?
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>>18177351
>watching a cosmic fish tank for billions of years
Based. Why did he fuck it up?
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>>18177395
God is too busy making new and interesting types of beetles to answer the prayers of dying children. You have to respect his priorities.

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>Only Eastern Orthodoxy can give you the epistemic justification of why mathematics functions in our earthly life.

>Every Christian not in communion with the Moscow Patriarchate is damned.

What is his problem?
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>>18176249
>Most EO converts in the west are papists who were dissatisfied with the pope not being based and trad like they expected so they transplanted their popery wholesale to the church of Moscow, so they are exactly the same in every way except their pope speaks Russian (or more rarely Greek)
They also have many child abuse cases:
https://cne.news/article/73-russian-church-does-not-easily-admit-abuse
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>>18171158
>why mathematics functions in our earthly life?
Can a christian explain the connotation here?
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>>18176345
I think God becoming flesh to dwell among us acts like a bridge for proposition 6, to achieve earthly function with truths within God.

Also maybe the Palamist divine energies help us discover the various ideas within the "platonic" realm, and we use our Nous for it.
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>>18174682
>yuuup my favorite ethnic group is.... this one
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>>18173261
>Are EO's just Catholics than don't want the accountability that comes with holding to the position that the Pope got a superpower to never be wrong?
Maybe it begins that way, but at a certain point as an EO convert you realize that things like the Filioque (and subsequent subordination of the Spirit), the legalistic/rationalistic spirit (as opposed to mystical), the de-emphasis of the physical body, the tendency towards innovation (itself linked to the rationalistic spirit) and the tendency towards emotionality are all much bigger issues than the Pope.
I often say that if I was forced to become Catholic, but was allowed to change one thing about Catholicism in exchange, the Pope would be pretty far down my list. In fact if hypothetically the Catholic Church was just "the Eastern Orthodox Church but with a Pope" then I don't think the Schism would have even happened. Papal authority itself is not the issue to me, its the other deviations that inevitably come alongside it. In other words if the Pope made the right call all the time then I would have no issue with there being a Pope and honestly might even like having a visible head for the Church. I see the appeal.


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