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Yes the dark ages were real, yes the fall of rome was a disaster for western civilization, yes the people on picrel are 99% responsible for it and should actively be blamed and shamed.Germanics are the cancer of europe, eternal cowards, buffons, incompetents, liars and traitors. There's no salvation for Europe unless we destroy the Germanic race until there's nothing left of it but a faint ill memory.
>>18252203rembrand alone mogs all hispanic "art"Rubens alone mogs all hispanic "art"brueghel alone mogs all hispanic "art"bosch alone mogs all hispanic "art"van Eyck alone mogs all hispanic "art"the only artist worth his grain ever produced by spain was velazquez and even he can barely stand in the shadow of the netherlanders
>>18252243you can't even write rembrandt correctlygo seethe somewhere else
>>18252243Velazquez, Murillo, Zurbarán and in general the Baroque school of Sevilla mogs yours.
>>18252245>thinking names were standardised in the 17th centuryhere is a document where it's spelled rembrand you double niggerhttp://remdoc.huygens.knaw.nl/#/document/remdoc/e4436>>18252251they are indeed better then the non-existant dutch sevilla school you fucking retard
>>18252203t. Black or white autist retard
If a Muslim child or even a Muslim adult sees a magician or fortune teller in front of them they will run screaming and hide in a corner of the room reciting the Qu'ran and trembling in terror. Magicians and astrologers are literally seen as demons by Muslims.Christian Youtubers are reading tarot cards and casting spells and not appearing alarmed by sorcery at all.
>>18250828>Why are Christians not terrified of magic and fortune telling like Muslims?Because they're not real. It's explicit Catholic doctrine that witchcraft, divination and fortune-telling are not real.
>>18250828I feel like you are leaving out Djinn and I am very confused as to why.
>>18250942Some nondenom retards are bringing this magical thinking back because it sells.
as a child i was taught to absolutely be afraid of those things because only Jesus & God himself can do such things. then a handful of years later at a family gathering there was a heated argument. some of my extended family insisted that if you see such things then that's clearly Jesus or God himself as they are the only ones who can do it.
>>18250845What if the future they see has someone else winning the lottery?
Stalin will be remembered as the second coming of Caesar. He built a Eurasia-spanning Empire through sheer vision and willpower. No one else in the modern era even comes close
>>18252133He also saved Poland
>>18252133>hu?Why would anybody remember him in 100 years with the Russian/uki/slav(e)s current trajectory?Do people remember the king of Botswana from 100 years ago?
>>18252133true, he was the most important man of XX century
>>18252149Russians and Eastern Europeans will definitely remember him for centuries to come
>>18252282>russians and eastern europeans404 doesnt exist.
Historically speaking why does this always seem to work on a geopolitical angle?
>>18251889False equivalency. Germany did commit atrocities during the war, Japan didn't
>>18252048>There was Iris Chang's Rape of NankingRidiculous book filled with lies.
>>18251601I do not believe you
>>18252213It's true. The population of Nanking was 200,000 when the Japanese arrived and increased to 250,000 when the Japanese occupation ended. Therefore it's impossible that 300,000 people were massacred as Chinese propaganda claims
>>18251357Sometimes I wonder if Japanese people feel resentment or shame for basically becoming America's exotic pet. Im not sure nowadays that's still the case, but they are where they are only because the US was relatively gracious and generous on victory after ww2.
Why are the Mayans considered an advanced civilization when the vast majority of Mayans lived in Africa tier mudhuts?
>>18251464USA has homeless people living in tents made of garbage bags, but also own iphones. Same concept really
>>18251991The Polynesians of Easter Island did have the Rongorongo script. No other Polynesian people is known to have had writing, though.
>>18251464>elites who could read running a 'national' bureaucracy No idea
>>18251464Most people through history lived in huts because most people were farmers, your question was badly loaded, mayas and amerindians in general get extra points because they managed all these things mostly on their own rather than belonging to the eurasian-african landmass. They are the answer to the question about what would happen if you threw a bunch of humans into another planet with mostly inimical climate and geography, the answer is they would still manage to get an advanced civilization after some thousand of years.
>>18252037and we don't know how old rongorongo really is - it is most likely recent, as in, inspired by encounters with european writing. plus, it's undecyphered, and therefore not sure if it is writing or just some more generic mnemonic device that can only be "read" by that one person who "wrote" it.
>Hear about how repressive the Pinochet Regime was>Browse some Wiki pages>Majority of victims were Marxists and militants>Only some three thousand offically executed - hardly impressive for a two-decade regimeI don't know, guys. The idea of watching leftoids get raped by dogs is kinda based.
>>18252265Okay, commie. Reminder that your failure ideology has never and will never work
>>18252264Ultimately all modern right wing idealogy comes down to protecting rich Jewish capitalists and rootless cosmopolitan who then corrupt the very culture they’re trying to preserve and then acting utterly shocked when everything turns to shit. Stalin was right.
>>18252268>Reminder your failure idealogy has never workedIf it doesn’t work than Rightoids wouldn’t be seething so hard about modern China
>>18251809He was a very moderate dictator when put in scale and compared to basically any other, but like most dictators, he made an enemy out of the police and military institutions. Nowadays Chile is full of dumb idiots who yell acab and avoid enlisting like it's the plague, all because of the paranoia and resentment created during the 80s. Hardcore leftists at the time were a genuine danger that required some extreme measures, but they were also a really small group that didnt merit all the internal distrust and fearmongering Pinochet implemented.
>>18252262So basically socdem/ordoliberalism in opposition to your failed subhuman ideology.
We mock the story of Jesus birth by saying Joseph was a cuck.But in the Samson story you have Manoah (which literally means impotent in hebrew and in context) getting cucked by an Angel that gets his wife pregant right in front of him and the same Angel instructs him to take care of the baby.
>>18251446The angel of the Lord appeared no more to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was the angel of the Lord. And Manoah said to his wife, >“We shall surely die, for we have seen God.” But his wife said to him, >“If the Lord had meant to kill us, he would not have accepted a burnt offering and a grain offering at our hands, or shown us all these things, or now announced to us such things as these.” And the woman bore a son and called his name Samson. And the young man grew, and the Lord blessed him. And the Spirit of the Lord began to stir him in Mahaneh-dan, between Zorah and Eshtaol.
>>18251445>>18251446>>18251448https://www.thetorah.com/article/who-was-samsons-real-fatherManoah wasn't the father
>>18251713>thetorah.com>Prof.Marc Zvi Brettler
>>18251293The Jews cannot resist writing disgusting sex fanfics about Bible characters (which is why Sefaria has stuff about transgender fetuses and a hundred stories involving tampons to redefine what "virgin birth" means because they're still salty about that one Messiah...)The stuff described in your link was so detested by God that He sent the Flood to wipe out the ones who did it. There's no way he'd approve of it.
>>18251766So you know it's true because this jew is talking shit about ANOTHER jew, not a goy>>18251828Different flood, and the pic related you posted with the link to Numbers passage proves that God approves of some fucked up shit. This Sefaria post is literally what God told them to do in Numbers if you think analyze it, I know someone will justify this by saying the girls were demons posing as girls and fetuses changing sex is medical accurate and virgin means not bleeding after fucking. But without those headcanons we have the literally meaning of killing and murdering babies and men getting cucked EVEN before Jesus Christ.
Why did the nazism completely dissapear after 4 years of war while the Communism is still thriving?
Thriving? Where?
>>18252258Nazism is a German idealogy and died when Nazi Germany fell while communism is an internationalist idealogy that changes depending on the country interpreting it. It’s why Russian commies are generally very conservative old men while American commies are fags and trannies
>>18252258nazism follow their principle - might makes right - it got crushed which mean that it was wrong
>>18252258I wouldn't exactly called north Korea and Venezuela "thriving" but okay
>>18252271north korea isn't even communist anymore
>non-vegans have no argumentsIs a nonsensical statement. Statements that make objective claims about subjective qualities like the taste of meat or its ethical consumption (which depends on individual preferences) can be safely dismissed. Ethical statements that attempt to legislate morality for aesthetic reasons can be also dismissed. The only time moral legislation should be ever attempted should only be in regards to human life. Things like culinary preferences, modern art or architecture should not get the same treatment.
>>18252146This. People cannot be expected to make the moral choice if there is no incentive to do so. Meat is an easy to get, tasty source of nutrition today due to factory farming and people as a whole cannot be expected to give it up just because of moral nagging.If vegans really wanted this to change, they should try to change this paradigm. Lobby for taxing the shit out of the meet industry, support tax breaks for farming of meat replacement plants, lobby to legalize and give tax breaks to synthetic meat.
It's easier to take a middle approach and say we shouldn't eat mammals, given that fish can get you the same macro nutrient profile and suffer way less than mammals/birds due to simpler limbic systems.
>>18251988>implying your feelings are subjectiveYou're paying for animals to be enslaved and slaughtered.>ethical consumption is just a preference like preferring pizza over burgersKYS.>only human life matters for moral legislationLiteral speciesist cope. morality isn't a buffet where you only take the human-serving plates>can be safely dismissedYou can dismiss reality all you want, doesn't make you less of a hypocrite or the blood less on your hands.
>>18251988What the fuck does this have to do with history? Take this shit to /pol/
>>18251988
What even was Generalplan Ost? Did the Nazis intend to exterminate the slavs in the east wholesale or did they just intend to create various german colonies inside Russia?
>>18245076Germans were already implementing GPO in Poland during the war. This was not just a plan, actually millions of Poles were expelled from their homes, murdered or starved to make space for german settlers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heim_ins_Reichhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Poles_by_Nazi_Germanyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligenzaktion
>>18252218Your picture shows the exact opposite of GPO.
>Nazi defenders make reasonable arguments>Nazi opponents act like evil retardsThese threads always seem to go that way. What causes this phenomenon?
>>Nazi defenders make reasonable arguments>>Nazi opponents act like evil retards>These threads always seem to go that way. What causes this phenomenon?
>>18252233>Your picture shows the exact opposite of GPO.The main goal of GPO was the complete germanisation of Poland through mass immigration of Germans in the place of murdered/expelled Poles.It is exactly what the picture shows - ethnic Germans being brought back to the Reich (occupied Poland).Picrel: Arthur Greiser welcoming the millionth Volksdeutsche resettled from Eastern Europe to occupied Poland, March 1944
Look at the birthrate of these countries, they will go extinct unless they join the Ummah and revert to IslamIn Japan many Nippons are reverting and having children however they are a very tiny minority so what can be done to convert more NipponsIn South Korea Islam is almost non-Factor it urgently needs more MuslimsWhat can the Ummah do to convert these countries?
>>18252234Not true don't project White racism onto them, there are many Nippons reverting to Islam and many Kurdish and Pakistani workers in Japan
>>18252241Japan literally kicked out thousands of you because you filthy fucks wouldn't stop littering. It's like your entire culture is based around garbage. You people love filth and everywhere you go your desire is to make it filthy like yourselves.No one in East Asia wants to adopt your gross culture or take in disgusting subhumans like yourselves. You're only good for the most menial, nigger-tier labour, but thats all.
Saar I want to have sex with beautiful Korean Muslim saar how I do this
>>18252228No one needs your Zuttlam
>>18252228Muhammad raped kids and was raped by Al-Zutt
If Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:30) and God is the one described as impregnating the Virgin Mary (Matthew 1:18) then Jesus impregnated his own mother to give birth to himself in act of magical incest. Disgusting.
>>18248846The Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament accepts worship and so obviously a divine figure that Judaism wrote folklore about it (they gave it the name Metatron and tied the angel to mysticism.)Genesis 48:15-16King James Version15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth. Exodus 23:20-22King James Version20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18245501As for the incest there's literally no sex involved and David predicted Christ's body would be divinely created, which is why the virgin birth predicted in the Old Testament is such a big deal. Psalm 40:6-8King James Version6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart. Hebrews 10:5King James Version5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18250764>>18250769The dolts in the thread tend to already reject sola scriptura already.They also reject logos about any validity of Christianity at all.Over and over again, you will see in practice, if these people aren't simple trolls,they are a blend of materialists, rationalists, and post modernists, and yes it's contradictory.Jews too, but that is repetitive.
>>182513708 times out of 10, they are dishonest, biased, bad faith "skeptics."
>>18247032>They're one in essence, not in personhood.as if these were meaningful terms.
Personally I think the best concept for the afterlife is the Celtic one. You die and you get to go to heaven for a bit, and when you get bored of heaven, you can get reincarnated back into your own family line. Its simple, its uplifting, It gives warriors fearlessness and courage, it means that family and society is important since you will be back later, and it neatly explains why kids will sometimes look similar to their ancestors.
While Jews were massacring and raping Palestinian Muslims, Palestinian Islamists founded terror groups dedicated to waging jihad and take over non-Muslim lands across the world.https://www.counterextremism.com/extremists/abdullah-azzam>Abdullah Azzam (1941-1989) was a Palestinian Islamist preacher who helped found al-Qaeda, Hamas, and Lashkar-e-Taiba.https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/mono/10.4324/9780203866887-9/origins-ideology-structure-hizb-ut-tahrir-emmanuel-karagiannis>Hizb ut-Tahrir was founded in 1953 by Taqiuddin an-Nabhani, an Islamic scholar of Palestinian origin.Hamas and Palestinian Islamists support Azerbaijan against Christian Armenia, even though Azerbaijan sells oil to Israel & buys weapons from Israel.Hamas congratulated Azerbaijan for taking Nagorno-Karabakh.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
This is not unlike how Israel funds ISIS or the west likes to install fascist dictators and claim to have saved democracy.
>>18251408A significant number of them believe that anything non-Muslim must be Jewish. This misconception is often reinforced when people point to Christianity’s Jewish origins as supposed justification.
>>18251845>Israel does not fund ISIS
>>18251890sure they don't
>>18251408In Iraq thousands of Palestinians came and joined alqeada and isis and killed and injured hundreds of thousands of people for being shia, they never killed a single American soldier
