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Why was the Longbow in use for literally 300 years when it simply could not penetrate armor? I have watched several experiments with modern reproductions and never once has it achieved penetration of plate armor. In this latest one they can't even pen at point-blank range a late medieval brigandine and cheap Sallet helmet which was worn by poorfag troops. Rich nobles wore high-end bespoke plate made from tempered steel with every surface calculated to deflect blows and it would have zero chance against that. The amount of training that went into using the bow doesn't seem worth the results.

https://youtu.be/SFFgcTzCvMo
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>>64693010
Because it won't. The French only sent a few hundred men on horseback to charge the English, and despite being shot at by archers with a 10-20:1 ratio on them, the leader of that force survived unharmed. Had the English not had mud and fiend fortifications, the archers would've been rolled over, like what eventually happened at patay. Even if you shoot a horse, it won't just stop, they'll run until their heart stops.


Plus, they literally dealt with English bullshit by just dismounting and advancing through it.
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>>64684834
Primarily elite troops were armored enough to be immune to longbows- as others have mentioned, due to the volume of fire, even if the longbows don't penetrate- they could cause other problems for fully armored opposition.

Brings me to my other point, the English longbow obviously has trouble penetrating full plate armor and I'm sure high quality brigandine as well. But if we are talking about other forms of armor, it has no issue- not to mention, historical armor very well could have been made of lower quality materials, and been made to be functional with less material. It is difficult for modern armor smiths to make reproductions without them being completely superior to their historical counterparts.

Not as many soldiers had full protection as you think, equipping someone in that way was very expensive and laborious for all involved. Only the best or most wealthy would receive such honors.
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>>64684857
>archers who would not normally be under attack
nigga...
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>>64685032
No one does, that's what is funny.

Everyone in a (historical) thread like this is full of shit. It's impossible to know, without going back in time.
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>>64684834
First off, not everyone had fancy fitted plate armor. You had a lot of suits of old chainmail, brigandines, and half plate.

Second, being hit by arrows was disruptive and annoying. The English liked to provoke French charges into killing fields. Crecy, for example.

Third, armor wasn't uniformly thick. Plate armor was thickest on the head and torso but thinner on the limbs. You could still knock a man out of a fight with a hit to his sword arm.

Fourth, by the time brigandines came around you were seeing 100+ pound longbows and crossbows. Some heavy arbalests had thousand pound draws. Those hit a lot harder than the 30-60 pound bows in your vid.

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>war is suffering, and death and sadness
>WAR ... WAR IS LEE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
"I find my greatest joy in the tears of my foes, their broken pride, their shattered homes, and the silence where their laughter once rang." Gengish khan
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"The besht things in life are hot water, good dentishtry and shoft lavatory paper." Ghenghiz Cohen, Leader of the Silver Horde
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“Le war never good, but youngsters must fight for our shareholders”

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>>64697429
Khan was a special case. For him war was rolling into a village, killing a bunch of men, taking a bunch of concubines, taking a bunch of livestock to have a nice feast and having them pay you tribute for ever after. For most other people in history, including the Mongols after khans death, war was about being in shit conditions for long years, having all your friends die and coming home to see your wife with several children to another man.
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>>64697429
"War is much more fun when you're winning." -General Martok

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Pre ban edition

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>>64697334
I love me my Grey shitties. Bonus points if they got snoots.
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Is the FNX45 a good first .45 gun? Or should I get a regular 1911?
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>>64697490
1911, but get a good one not the turkshit that always gets shilled here. I learned to shoot on one and it was a great first gun.
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>>64697490
You should be contrarian and get an FN 545

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>Life story elevates TV as a medium, forever
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Say something nice about Jack /k/
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>>64693665
renaissance man of mid-20th century

>>64693682
this
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>>64693746
Nice
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>>64693655
The better question is why are you not making one?
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>>64694331
Kek. What is wrong with you dude?
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>>64693633
He successfully summoned an elemental, who then ran away with L. Ron Hubbard and $20,000 of his money. The elemental left Hubbard, bred with humans and created moon children.

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is it really worth it or overrated ?

i mostly see cringy redditors use it for they commute i'd like to know if their bags are really that good before i drop 1k to replace my rig with theirs
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Varusteleka has gone in such a shit direction over the past few years. When's the last time they even had a fresh surplus haul?
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>>64697058
i got a 10lbs tasmanian tiger with internal flat aluminum frame that i bent twice already
also i jump off planes with it so yeah im actually considering replacing both my rucksack and daypack with savottas just cuz there no way ill bend some tubular frame that easily (ive done it on some army issued one)
>>64697070
why
>>64697074
who
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>>64697074
They rebranded after the global surplus markets went dry. There's no more surplus.
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>>64696913
They've literally made he Finnish military gear for the past century soon. Every FDF reservist is familiar with their stuff.

If you want quality stuff that lasts a life time, you buy their stuff. If you want cheap Chink shit, Temu is for you.

I'm still waiting for them to start selling M85 LCE belt repros.

>>64697093
>who
You need to be 18+ AND lurk the fuck moar to post on this site.

>>64697074
>When's the last time they even had a fresh surplus haul?
They still get small batches of random stuff, but ALL the good stuff has been shipped to Ukraine.
They also literally stopped importing Chink commie shit.
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>>64697074
>Varusteleka has gone in such a shit direction over the past few years. When's the last time they even had a fresh surplus haul?
Their business plan was always to slowly transition their primary revenue stream over to new manufactured gear. Surplus is not forever and there's a war coming.

>>64697093
I'm not an airborne burger but I don't see why not. You're a euro, I take it?

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I want to get a musket. Ideally I’d like an authentic one used in the Civil War, but most of the ones I’ve found are either too expensive, or in pretty rough shape.
Should I get a real one or buy a reproduction? What do you guys think?
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>>64696742
Muskets of that size are about the same as shooting shotgun slugs. They have similar projectile mass, velocity, and recoil.
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>>64694487
>You don't want to really be firing antiques since they have a habit of exploding. They belong in a museum for a reason.
There's nothing wrong with shooting an original provide it's been inspected and tested by someone qualified to do so. That could even be OP himself with a little research and care. The idea that all old guns are automatically unsafe is ridiculous fuddlore. However I completely agree with the other anons that it makes more sense for a total noob to start with a reproduction. Learning the basics with something cheap and expendable makes a lot more sense than diving headfirst into antiques.

Something else that's worth pointing out is that there's more than safety involved, there's also your time and effort. I own a number of antique guns, some of them are very valuable, and that creates a bit of dilemma. They're in perfectly sound condition and 100% safe to shoot, but there's a lot of cleanup afterward. Black power fouling gets everywhere and if not properly cleaned it can wreck the safety and value of the gun....so some of those guns I don't shoot as often as I otherwise might because I don't want to take the time and effort to clean afterward. But a Pedersoli? Yeah sure, I'm still going to clean that, but I'm not going to stress about doing a perfect job the way I would for a valuable antique.
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>>64696817
I think a musket would be fun. Then again, I’m not particularly a fan of big bore stuff unless it’s a shotgun.
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>>64692733
>>64694464
I hate tripfags but in this case he's right. Any remotely valuable antique firearm loses value every time it's fired. If you're fine with that, have fun, but most people willing to spend the money on these collectible firearms are intending to use them as a store of value.
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>>64696817
no they don't.
>>64696742
It's nothing like a modern smokeless powder rifle. Black power burns a lot slower than modern smokeless powder, and as a result, it accelerates the projectile a lot slower. I've shot dozens of .75 and .50 muskets, and all of them were incredibly soft shooting and damn near pleasant compared to almost every 12 gauge loading and certainly every full size bolt action rifle.
>tldr
A 12 gauge kicks, a .75 black powder musket pushes.

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A few photos I took at the Museo Storica Aeronautica Militare when I visited back in November (thanks to a case of the Japanese cold back in July leaving me with a spare vacation week).
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And to round it off an SPA Falcolini No.3 engine from 1911. If I'm guessing the Italian right it's a 5.3 litre engine that could manage 50bhp at 1600rpm.

All the photos (a bit over 500 with the signs): https://www.mediafire.com/file/iy6sdadkwbqhopt/Italien_-_Museo_Aeronautica.zip/file
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an actual topic, on /k/
bravo OP
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>>64695387
Is that an S-2?
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>>64695968
>>64695971
Italy's first "jet". It looks very cool but it had worse performance than pretty much anything else.
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>>64696645
it has always bothered me how the Tornado isn't a true multirole aircraft and you had to order a model specifically for the role in need

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New Year's Bread - To A Tomboy I'll Be Wed

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>image limit reached

https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player
>with this sweet script you can hear pictures of your tomboy wife talking to you
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>>64697268
consider the following: big strong woman will bear big strong children
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>>64696992
Mood

>>64697085
I'll take your word for it, Lard

>>64696823
Whoever captured that fucked the resolution
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>>64695345
I’ve never thought sexually about any aunts. It’s only been two of my female cousins and that was specifically related to their tummies because 12 year old me was still trying to manage a tummy fetish
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>>64697263
You better have a lot of money for tables
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>>64695618
>wife bought patches from PK for me for Christmas
How does someone get a wife who buys /k/ stuff for them?

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We were born to soon travel to exotic planets and teach alien women to shoot guns. Feels bad man.
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>>64697210
https://youtu.be/dd7J1mi2NSk
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>>64696935
>I disagree on deep level with low blow gotcha's like that
Because your mental illness or actual brain damage (perhaps shriveled amygdala) prevents you from practicing pattern recognition. For us humans (you wouldn't understand), these filters and friend or foe identification systems are the basis of practical reality, and any society that tolerates more than a small margin of your contrary idea annihilates itself.
Sorry but the infinitely brief period of all human existence where we shut off our pattern recognition is over and it's never coming back. You've been identified as an enemy and now everything you say is either wrong or irrelevant.
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>>64697232
>You've been identified as an enemy
Of who? Let's find out.
Ahem.
"Ukraine is a made up country created by a communist Jew and queers should all be drowned in bogs".
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Just think of all the Navi brothel-domes back on earth.
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Wait. is it explained how the RDA trip to Pandora works? is it FTL? takes 6 years but thats still slow in some regards

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IT'S UP!: https://youtu.be/qvUbx9TvOwk?
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>>64697106
NTA
>insensitive explosives
Wouldn't this just mean it's unlikely to go off instead of catastrophic detonation like we see from the turret tossing? So the chance is still there to go kaboom.
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>>64697321
I don't think you understand what I'm talking about. The BBG (AKA the Trump class) is approximately the size of an America-class chopper carrier, this would imply one needs a berth designed for a ship at least the size of an America to build it. Considering how anemic the US shipbuilding industry is it is probable that the Navy would either have to upgrade another berth to handle warships of that size, or make room in a berth that would otherwise be used to build an America or Ford.
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>>64697376
>make room in a berth that would otherwise be used to build an America or Ford.
And I'm saying this is what they're going to do if they attempt to build it, but I think it's unlikely this gets done at all.
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>>64697376
HII in Pascagoula is launching the last LHA in FY29. It's not hard to see them laying a keel there for BBG-1 in FY29/30.
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>>64697144
>If the plan is to upgrade naval yards
With the timetable given? No. That shit should have been done two decades ago but things like the GWOT took center stage then.

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It’s disappointing that deltaP was sold to true velocity. They don’t sell cans to the public anymore. The catalog on their website is barren.

What if you took that thicc delta P can and made it a reflex design. How much could you shave off of the total length added to the bare muzzle while still maintaining the same sound reduction? I imagine not much, but also not zero, right?
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>>64697426
Who do they sell to then? GD lost the contract for the NGWS.
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>>64697452
> Who do they sell to then?
I don’t know. It’s been a while since the competition. If they were gonna resume public sales, they would have done so already. Why buy a company then effectively discontinue its entire catalog?
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>>64697261
Pics?
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>>64697478
To sit on the patents, presumably. Many such cases.

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I'm a brainlet when it comes to acoustics, but are there reasons other than price/difficulty as to why a monolithic suppressor made of sintered titanium or stainless steel wouldn't work ? Think of acoustic foam with insane weight to structural strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2AM9x80nA&t=63s
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You mean the whole thing is made of titanium or steel but with the topology of foam, and with a caliber-sized hole in the middle for the bullet? If that’s what you mean, well all that material, despite being porous, gets in the way of the gas, and so the path of least resistance for it is to follow the bullet out of the front. You want there to be lots of empty space with only the occasional obstruction (baffle) for the gas to freely flow into.
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>>64697430
>but are there reasons other than price/difficulty as to why a monolithic suppressor made of sintered titanium or stainless steel wouldn't work ?

Not really. "Cost" is a huge driving force in the can market.
Metal foams have been tinkered with for cans, but it all comes back to cost of manufacture well before other issues.
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>>64697443
>the whole thing is made of titanium or steel but with the topology of foam, and with a caliber-sized hole in the middle for the bullet?
Yep precisely. You can control the pore size and structure so that it looks like this in the center and the pores get finer/tighter towards the outside walls.
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>>64697462
Well imagine you have such a can. And it has a decibel reduction of x. Now transform this can into a conventional one. I.e. make the pores bigger until there’s no foam left and it’s just empty space. Now the internal volume is greater and there are no obstructions whatsoever impeding gas flow into the baffles. You can expect a decibel reduction of *at least* x, but likely quite a bit higher.

What do you think the benefit of a foam suppressor would be?

By the way, I think some people do use steel mesh inside their cans. I don’t remember what for, I want to say it’s for use with gel so the report is quieter, but I’m not sure.

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What is /k/ favorite type of glock?
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>>64696866
>double springs were a minor failure point
If that's true then it took them 16 years to address it, kek
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>>64697357
Extremely minor. Probably took autistic analysis of 10 years worth of data to make the call.
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>>64697226
I'm not super happy about the idea of a trigger guard attached directly to the belt. The old kydex trigger guard on paracord and a clipdraw combo at least means the gun can't use its own weight to get out of the guard.
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>>64697454
I used to use a MIC but they kydex was too weak and cracked (and no I didn't slip it on wrong, ever). Unless the butt of the gun gets a hard whack forward its secure enough and if it did hit my belt keeps it from moving forward much so it stays in place and the trigger is still protected. I'm not fighting people in the streets or tackling folks to the ground so the odds of that even happening are almost zero anyways.

The pros of the Vanguard outweigh the cons for my usage.
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>>64697440
>10 years worth of data
>had it right the first time
Just like when they deleted the finger grooves

https://nextgendefense.com/poland-invisible-shield/

>Poland’s STRATUS system uses high-intensity electromagnetic pulses to disable hostile drones, creating an “invisible shield” without explosive or kinetic effects.
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>>64695147
there's this thing called aerodynamics anon.
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i hope we will be keeping this tech for ourselves, since every sane Pole knows that america won't help us if russia starts chimping out
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>>64696975
Shielded cables have been a thing for decades. The controller board can be shielded inside the composite/plastic housing, it doesn't have to be outside. The structural materials aren't sensitive. Battery is easily wrapped.
The only things that might be fiddly and require some actual engineering are the camera and the motors. But if it's done properly by the manufacturer it shouldn't add much weight.
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>>64690743
https://cyberdefence24.pl/cyberbezpieczenstwo/polski-system-do-ochrony-infrastruktury-krytycznej-przed-dronami
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>>64691036
Some of you may die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

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>$344 million per plane
>So we can gift them to Israel

Literally how the fuck are these F-15s so expensive what the heck
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>>64697265
>what do you mean you dont want to pays for my endless wars???

>Fucking nazis! It's like anudah shooooaaaaaaah!
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>>64697291
Not a single good one.
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>>64697301
>>64697310
Confirmed hysterical parasite writhing in anger that the host noticed it.
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>>64693289
Next time don't vote for a guy that pimped off his daughter to Jews. Not that the other team was any better, what with their obsession to flood the US with spics.
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>>64693323
Israel flies about 66 F-15s and they've all been used extensively in their recent campaign to destroy the terrorists from Hamas by targeting civilians instead. So it's likely that after decades using them, their airframes must be in dire need of replacement. Plus the F-15EX is ultra fucking modern, even when compared to the avionics that the Foreskin Munching tribe can develop domestically.


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