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What is the heaviest bullet weight in a "typical" and still handle-able caliber that can be fired accurately? I know .45-70 can get up to like 600 grains, are there any 1000+ grain bullets that wont obliterate your shoulder but still go fast enough to kill something?
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>wont obliterate your shoulders

Just establish a maximum amount of acceptable recoil energy, then, using the weight of the gun, figure out the max bullet momentum and you can figure out the max velocity for a given grain weight that is still within allowable recoil range.

All that said, the heaviest possible bullet is gonna be a super long 50 cal. So maybe 510 whisper. I’ve never shot one but from footage I’ve seen, the recoil does not seem excessive at all. Your shoulder will remain intact. Not sure where you’d find 1000+ grain bullets though. I know some exist but they’re real fancy and expensive tungsten core bullets.

Vidrel, 510 whisper.
https://youtu.be/CelM9DsdHos?si=fsftXbgQzg8mh7FK
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>>64338552
The conversation wasn't about the capabilities or marksmanship of the hunters. It was
>are there any 1000+ grain bullets that wont obliterate your shoulder but still go fast enough to kill something?
And those old guns could and did kill "dangerous game". Plus, I'm sure idiots with modern ammunition still wound their quarry through incompetence, and leave fragments or entire bullets in them.
But other than that, thank you for your input, it contributed precisely nothing to the topic.
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>>64335498
OP did specify that the gun should not obliterate one’s shoulder, so that precludes 950JDJ (and the nitro express cartridges other anons have brought up)
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>>64341268
>Just establish a maximum amount of acceptable recoil energy, then, using the weight of the gun, figure out the max bullet momentum and you can figure out the max velocity for a given grain weight that is still within allowable recoil range.
No. The problem is not velocity and momentum - it's the mass of the projectile and the acceleration - F=ma. So you also need to figure in the length of the barrel and the speed of the powder (which gives you the rate of change of pressure)
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>>64341274
Nitro express was regularly shot by people who still had two functioning shoulders

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Guy at work who’s trying to discourage my next gun purchase said ā€œI wouldn’t trust my life to a 1911ā€. I was honestly at a loss for words. How do you feel about 1911 vs other handguns for cc?
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>>64340775
>Wilson combat 10 round magazine
10" vs 8.5"
1911 wins

Niggers survive 9mm all the time. That's why you need 45
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>>64340141
Where's that pic of 1911 on Mars with the perfect thread number when you need it?
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>>64340619
>Glock triggers don't cock the striker.
Yes they do
>>64340804
That's because 9mm is the main nigger shooting caliber chosen by law enforcement. .45 fails just as frequently in the rare cases it's used.
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>>64340961
No, they don't.
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>>64340804
>>64340775
This is such a retarded fuddlore argument. Energy transfer scales with impact resistance which scales with velocity. 9mm and 45 create very similar wound channels especially with hollow points because standard .45 loads don't have the velocity they need to expand quickly decreasing energy transfer. Bottom line, 9mm is the same objectively superior choice because it has higher capacity and lower recoil.

Whenever I see these arguments online I assume the people making them can't shoot for shit

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>The highlighted yellow part at the phoenix's tail might be a hint for the shape of the F-47. It resembles a modified Boeing YF-118G Bird of Prey that was secretly flown in the 1990s. The two diamonds on both sides of the triangle resemble canards, as seen on the F-47 renders.
Kino!:
https://www.twz.com/air/f-47-phoenix-patch-authentic-still-a-work-in-progress-u-s-air-force-confirms
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So Boeing regressed from 3D back to 2D?
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>>64340897
>fucks up the latin
This is why you have people check stuff before sending them for print/public
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>>64340897
Anglos and their obsession over butchered Latin holy fuck.
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>>64341221
>>64341232
How did they fuck it up savvy anons? It has been like half a decade since I have studied Latin and I can barely remember shit Superamus and Perstamus seem a bit redundant to me and I can't tell what the last one is supposed to be.
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>>64341221
Seems like it was a leak
We're just lucky it isn't lorem ipsum lol

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Post wood (furniture)
Group your shots
Come for the full power cartridge stay for the booba
It's over, Just Cope
Post kits, post accessories
Ruger Sfar vs Sig Tread 716i
Ammo price = Not low enough
Be cool, fren zone for fren

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>>64339570
>buy another PVS-2 for my M1A eventually.
Post ot here! Eventually...
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>>64340047
Ye when I get it. I was just fucking around with a sadlak mount but realized its pointless without the scope I ordered, or a level, or any actual tools I need to properly install it, so I'm just gonna take it to a shop to have them do it for me. My M1A is already ITT, so I'm just gonna post some M1s I had.
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>>64340165
Whoa. Please take a pic using the stacking swivles properly. I try to get one with my M1As ...in about a week.
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>>64340481
>with my M1As
Disregard, the M1A does not have the stacking swvle and I need an M1903A3 to complete with my M1 and M1917. I knew I was wrong as I typed.
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hopefully, next year i will have access to a 600 yard range so i can plink at distance with raifu

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>modernizing the revolver means lightweight materials, optics cuts, better triggers, and interchangeable cylinders/calibers!
Is he retarded? This is absolutely incorrect and this guy is never going to be satisfied because his demands are foolish. What we actually NEED in the revolver market is an autoloading revolver like the Mateba. What we actually NEED in the revolver market is a gas seal revolver like the Nagant (did you forget how popular suppressors are getting?).

He was right on putting autopistol chamberings in revolvers: something like 9mm or 45 makes your cylinder (and thus the whole gun) a fair bit shoter.

But hell, why not just combine the Mateba and the Nagant? A gas seal autoloading revolver? That's the only thing that might could pass for a "modern" revolver.
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>>64338633
You want dumbass range toy gimmicks.
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>>64340018
>revolvers are obsolete,

Six bullets are more than enough to kill anyone that moves. Have you seen some of the body cam footage of 9mm wounding some ghetto thug who gets mildly irritated, returns fire, and then flees? Would he be in such nice shape if 357 rounds were tearing through his body?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhaMoljh57Q

Have you seen 9mm auto-loaders jam up frequently in body cam footage? I have seen it countless times, and revolvers are much more reliable.

For civilian market, the vast vast vast vast vast majority of cases are going to involve a shooting at close range that is over in a few rounds. Getting into an extended fire-fight is extremely rare.
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>>64340550
>>64339992
The answer isn't not requiring moonclips. The answer is to make a better moonclip.
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>>64338681
Why do you always feel the need to mention "well that's not how we do things"? Do you think we listen to you like you are still our masters? Is it from a place of false superiority? Just curious why Europeans in particular suffer from this mentality.
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>>64338633
Some form of gas seal would be a welcome addition to any revolver since that energy is simply wasted in the cylinder gap.

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AK General /akg/
Casual Warfighting Edition
>Thread #2079

Old thread here >>64305795
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>>64340717
>Fag probably doesn't know or forgot that military issued Zastavas weren't chrome lined
I've known for a hot minute. There is a reason why so many of the surplus barrels were dead.
>previous claimed he'd never use or own an AK that isn't chrome lined
Source? Where did I say that? I've had several had several AKs that weren't chrome lined, and they're far from my first pick, and I don't consider them real guns.
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is the KUSA KR-103 any good?
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>>64341112
Assembled by negroz in Pompano Beach, no longer in business, you tell me.
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>>64341149
where do i get 103 from?
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>>64341183
Gunbroker, and expect to over pay, even for the cheaper fixed stock model (KR-103FT). Can I ask why KUSA? Why now?

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What chance do they stand? It appears that the Turks are going to support the Syrian/HTS offensive to destroy the Kurds as the government has already starting shelling Tishreen Dam.
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>>64340927
They're not much better though.
Honor killings of family members and spouses that don't drink the kurdish cool aid, suicide attacks with explosive vests on civilians, regular knoife incidents are among the popular export goods of kurds.
You just don't hear a lot of it because there are relatively few kurds in total, and when they attack they usually attack muslims. They're better than isis, but otherwise not much more than an "enemy of my enemy" kinda friend.
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>>64339094
Yeah, but who? Your choice is basically Russia or China, because the Kurds are a bunch of commies that hate the US and Turkey. Well, mostly Turkey, but the US due to its relationship with Turkey as well.
People want Kurds to be this heckin wholesome chungus, but it's honestly the Taliban in Afghanistan all over again. They're not wholesome, they're an ethno-nationalist movement with strong ties to Marxism. Does that make them bad? Not really, but they're not exactly on the shortlist of US allies.
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>>64340910
Well, now we can say for certain that we have seen zelensky and jolani in the same room
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>>64340962
>because the Kurds are a bunch of commies that hate the US and Turkey. Well, mostly Turkey, but the US due to its relationship with Turkey as well.
Thank you for your input Mehmet
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I think they are going to break Armenia's record of surrendering in less than 24 hours

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/kng/ - /k/ nuclear general

From the K-19 ā€œHiroshimaā€ to my boy Sergei Preminin, discuss the Russian military’s history of reactors, and those abroad

Sequel to the first four threads. Feel free to also bring up their land based military reactors, Mayak is a bit of a doozy

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>>64329487
1.4-1.5 billion vs barely 140+ million is a big enough difference. where vatnik nests are they shit up the place for sure. but in terms of contaminated land there are vast empty stretches of wilderness where they physically dont have enough mongoloids to shit up the place
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>>64333217
Grim
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>>64336295
That's the russian air force accidentally dropping a bomb on Belgorod.
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>>64336633
Indeed

>t one point we’d had to stop at a red light while a passenger bus entered the road. In the lighted windows of the bus, I could see the faces of people who were sleeping, or reading the evening newspapers. Their work day had ended and they were hurrying to get home. They did not suspect that a deadly threat might lie in a small packet on the knees of the passenger in the government Volga behind them.
> I am certain that none of us — neither I myself, nor our people in the West, nor the Aeroflot pilot, nor the KGB officer who accompanied the pilot, nor the officers of the KGB post at Moscow’s international airport who did not even know what kind of materials they were handling, none of us thought at the time that because of our actions the balance of war and peace might have swung towards war that day. To all of us, it was just another day in the midst of many, yet another delivery from overseas, yet another experiment in a secret army biolab...
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>>64334849
>audiobookbay
One of these days I should download everything available from there before copyright jews permakill that site

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ALAAAAAAARM

Herr Kaleun, BdU has just given you command of your new U-Boat. The last three numbers of your post will be your boat for the war as according to https://uboat.net/boats/listing.html. Don't concern yourself too much with the 75% casualty rate.
Do you survive the war unscathed?
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>>64339116
>What's the worst that could possibly happen?

56 dead(all hands lost). Sorry anon
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>>64339116
>Type XB Boat U-116
>Survived 6 months of active service
>1 ship sunk, 1 damaged in 4 patrols
>Fate unknown, last radio transmission was from the middle of the Atlantic

Well that sucks. At least with dying in a battle on record, there's some sense of finality and the ability to say you met a warrior's end.
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>>64329251
Dive dive dive
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>>64341134
Not fast enough it seems
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>>64329251
My own boat?

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Been way too long since we had a space cowboy thread, so post em if u got em

As for me, I still miss that Mateba Unica 6 that I saw for $3k on GB a few years ago. If you’re the anon that bought her, well, I guess take good care of her
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>>64334438
There was that scam that renewed interests in them and when the people got rug pulled it spiked demand. Also, 6 o'clock barrel revolvers are starting to make apperances in a lot of media beyond GiTS now.
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>>64334438
>How did they appreciate 3x in value so quickly?
The people who grew up watching Ghost in the Shell and Trigun now have jobs and can afford they toys they lusted after when they were kids.

It's the same reason why boomers pay 5 figures for old Colts and Winchesters because they watched picrel when they were growing up
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Outlaw Kino
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>>64334438
An lgs in California bought them all up and jacked the price since they now control the entire supply
Same thing happened to the HK P7 when the HKParts founder bought them all with an investment partner.
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>>64337931
Based outlaw starposter

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Post Gear, Discuss Gear
CBRN UNIT
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>>64320680
Prefacing this by saying I don't own (hard) Kevlar anything. My worry having played around with a lot of different materials making things is that you may start to delaminate the kevlar layers like cheap plywood on the edges depending on how it's cut or how it reacts. It may go well. It may not. You just can't know until you do it. Delamination may worsen over time from a spot you didn't notice originally as well. And how are you going to protect the cut edges? How can you secure the cut edge to prevent fraying or delamination (ie. using epoxy) without having a possibility of that also affecting the rating of the helmet? Just my overly cautious look on modifying anything like that.
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>>64323296
Might be a lot less doable with that Mossberg (nice Mossberg btw) but I like Magpul QD cups on the side of the stock above pistol grip and at front of forend and the default cheap magpul slide adjust sling. Put rifle at ~3 or 4 o'clock if you don't have anything else there and let it sit muzzle down. Great spot for a hunting rifle to sit, especially a folding stock 22. I think it'd help a lot knowing whether you're talking that mossberg or an AR or what. I'd really have to think about how I carry my AR for long times when hunting. Been a while.
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>>64323911
Didn't see this before replying like 2 minutes ago. Weirdly I find my Magpul sling comfy despite no padding. Might want to look at their padded sling; IIRC they do make one. I really don't like cheap slings FWIW, maybe except a surp Colt silent sling. Also cradling the rifle in one arm (muzzle left, on right forearm) can relieve some of the weight on your left shoulder. Sometimes I hold it in both arms. Whatever makes my shoulders feel best during the day as needed.
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>>64338674
4 u
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>>64338663
Retard proof and retard friendly since I've been procrastinating on it for too.
But generally, I want to use it for aerial reconnaissance. Would a used Mavic 1 be a good stepping stool to start?

>Rise of drone warfare
>Russians plundering the GLA tech tree for ideas
>Talk of giving Ukrainians a land based tomahawks system
>Now talk of Battleships being reintroduced
What's the next unit in this game to be turned into reality?
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>>64340558
Do you really think MBS will make the not-houthis anything other than a punching bag?
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>>64338024
Paladin tanks with companion drones and ads laser systems.
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>>64338024
I want 4 airfields full of Aurora bombers and I want them yesterday.
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>>64341024
>Aurora bombers
Aurora bombers made me think of HGVs
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>>64341024
>Auroras
Fuck that means true hypersonics are next on the menu isn't it?

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5.7 has a niche as a handgun cartridge but out of a PDW .30 carbine is far more effective.

.30 Carbine penetrating IIIA armor at 200 yards
https://youtu.be/-SwbWGQ7J78?si=9yzDUuu1WYdxpsFt
.30 Carbine penetrating IIIA armor out of a handgun
https://youtu.be/MlcP8EjfKU4?si=4pOhHGiQRfmQ4E5M
Insane ballistics gel performance with specialized ammo and solid performance with standard ammo
https://youtu.be/N4NHSMcnSd8?si=GnTwkEkJwqBXjMXI&t=209
Comparable performance to .357 magnum
https://youtu.be/Q3QsMCs9K1g?si=5OlU82kIJi_TWVvL
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>>64340137
Ha, that reminds me, the Fuck Bruno review is where Paul looks to camera and goes "1488".
Good times.
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>>64340629
Sounds funny, let me just find that video.

….


The ā€˜part 1’ is a fucking hour long? Timestamp pls.
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>>64340913
lmao
https://files.catbox.moe/8gulsm.mp4
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>>64339910
Lol, lmao even. The term PDW gets applied to semi auto weapons so PDWs can be semi auto.
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>>64340978
Aahhhhh I see, thanks bro. I skipped over that section since all the 7.5 velocities were in the 2000fps range, didn’t realize he’d be chronoing other calibers as well.

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How does it compare to Barrett’s offering?
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>>>64338731
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>>64340786
Looks like an autistic attempt to build a gun.
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>>64340786
It's a PPON contract for development ahead of the actual PGS competition
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How is this different from the XM25?
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>>64341218
It's really not at all different in concept besides the anti-drone use which wasn't really a thing when the XM25 was in development. Hopefully it'll make use of about 2 more decades of development, but I suspect all of these things will run into the same issue that it did, that most guys would prefer a carbine.

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>>64340132
The .264/6.5x43mm does seem interesting, but 6.5x39mm/6.5 Grendel has already been outclassed. Grendel belongs in a museum; it has the same BC as 6mm ARC, less flat shooting than 6mm ARC, slower than 6mm ARC, similar bullet weights (90 gr or 108 gr being common); it's just old news. It did do a great job of outperforming 6.8 SPC though.
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>>64340204
>outclassed
No, it hasn't.
.30-06 hasn't been "outclassed"
(You) can make an argument that cartridge X outperforms cartridge Y in certain metrics, but each cartridge also has its disadvantages. Barrel burning one of them, but there are others.

6.8 was always a fucking joke. Solution to a 'problem' that never existed
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>>64339777
>why not just use the tech for 556?
Because we've got nas3 for that already being fielded. SIGs case in the m250 and rebarreled 240 plus a dmr would be ideal.
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>>64340278
>No, it hasn't.
>.30-06 hasn't been "outclassed"
See when two rounds serve a different purpose, then they can both exist alongside one another; however, when two cartridges serve the same purpose, like two intermediate cartridges known as 6.5 Grendel and 6mm ARC, it's unnecessary to own both. The people who already own 6.5 Grendel will continue to use it and the people who are now looking for an upgrade to 5.56 will likely consider the superior cartridge (the 6mm ARC or the .264/6.5x43mm). Look at how .450 Marlin slowly started dying out when 45-70 became the standard, how 6.5 Creedmoor is slowly making .270 Winchester die out, or look at how .38 Colt disappeared when .38 Super came around; the only people who kept the obsolete cartridge were those who bought into it before the upgrade came along.
>6.8 was always a fucking joke.
The funny thing about this statement is that while I meant 6.8x43mm/6.8 SPC (6.5 Grendel's main competitor in the early 2000s), you could apply this statement to 6.8x51mm/.277 Fury and it'd still be 100% accurate. LOL
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>>64340713
I don't see 6 mm ARC as a direct supplanting of 6.5 Grendel nor do I have a requirement for it
Yes agreed, some ? newer calibers can make older ones obsolete. .260 Remington though will probably stay around despite 6.5 Creedmoor's now-wide adoption. There are many other examples that can go either way

RE: 6.8, I meant all/both


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