post your pre/post HRT photoshere is me, I used to look like a fucking chudjak before HRT
>>40944879you looked much better before
>>40961579absolutely not what even makes you think that
>>40961314i was about to start my gym arc and get hugekind of a shame that i chose becoming a boymoding faggot
>>40961579He looks handsome now.That word is overused for trans men, but it's deserved. He passes perfectly and looks good, too.He looks better because he's the guy that he's supposed to be now.
>>40961529>starting at 39 & having shit genetics That's why
Make a transgender girlfriend rental service.There's current a male loneliness epidemic in our society. A lot of incels are becoming chuds that hate on everyone who isn't like them.If you give them a rental transgender girlfriend, they will have to admit that transgender women are women.Not only that, they can use their time to develop social skills to make themselves better.Due to positive experience with transgender women, most men will support transgender rights.This service can also help transgender women. Transgender women are raised as boys, and are unable to integrate as women in society due to this. By giving them the opportunity to be a rental girlfriend, they can use this to practice on how to act more lady-like during their girlfriend role. Not only that, but it would also boost the confidence of transgender women, reducing their suicidal ideation.Transphobia will be no more.
>>40962346>HOW TO COMPLETELY SOLVE TRANSPHOBIA ONCE AND FOR ALL!Step 1: Reject all hons, rapists, pedos and srsoids. Gatekeep that shitStep 2: Do not get kids involved.Step 3: be hot and attracted to men.
>>40962544Sub 6' low income chaser hands wrote this btw
>>40962555I'm over 6ft and I'm not poor. I am a proud chaser though.
>>40962544... So Step 1 is rejecting all trannies lmao.
>>40962570You should work on being a proud homosexual, instead of denying what you are.
Whenever you bring up misandry to cis women they completely lose their minds at the concept and think you are basically an incel rape terrorist or something but when cis women transition to men they instantly understand it and it makes them suicidal and shit. A good amount of men, likely a substantial majority in the west at least, can understand misogyny and empathize with it but cis women completely lack this ability, I think this points to a major issue with cis women's ability to empathize with others, cultural of course not implying this is a biologically determined issue. Do you think this provides some explanation for the rise of TERFdom? A common theme running among TERF discourse is just a complete inability to recognize the completely obvious fact that transwomen are far more socially marginalized than cis women are, even rightwingers typically recognize this with their focus on transwomen being essentially just a variety of mental retard in need of corrective medical intervention to dispel the mental illness. Its really only cis women that have this bizarre pernicious inability to empathize.
>>40960888Very interesting article, though I didn't completely comprehend all of it and was kinda skimming it. I'll probably have to reread it. Do you find it lonely to be interested in feminism from the perspective of the property question?
>>40960538>frog voiced roastie bullies men in their imaginationok sweetie. so weird how all ftms just talk like retarded women though and make hilarious obvious lies just like them
>>40961655What are the most obvious lies women tell?
>>40953973Do people not remember that incels also hate men too? Specifically the "Chads" who get all the girls they would want?
>>40953973a lot of women are like billionaires, they don't know what it's like to be poor, and they don't want to know. Their existence is people appealing to them for no other reason than the fact that they're a woman. Even fat women have the ego of a Fortune 500 suit.
A real man(not an amab but an actual capital m Man) can never be one a womanIt is impossibleOnce a man always a manTransition is just shifting some secondary crap to look the thing you always areWomen naturally want to look like women and men like menHrt isn’t magic or changes anything but aligning your outer shell with who youAlready are. Despite this some are unlucky and transition late. That’s circumstance and changes nothing about who you areBut the crux of it isYou cannot change who you areOnly how you look it how your hormones are or how you feel about things aBut who you are is inescapableNature over nurtureAnd you cannot grow to be anything but yourself.ThusI’m dead. It never begun. There was nothing to wish for or dream of or become.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>40962632There's very much this thing where people imply they're faketrans as bait to get people to be like "no ur valid hon :)" because we hate feeling invalidated and don't want to invalidate others but some people actually just aren't really trans. It's like what >>40962056 says, except I'm not implying OP is a detransitioner.
>>40962660hi OP hereNo I dont want to be validated
>>40962669Alright then
hi OP hereI'm a big dumb faggot who should be raped and beaten.
>>40962709ehhhhh not reallyi am dumb as fuck that is truewhats up did my thread hurt you?lolreality check bitch
are boymoders good at playing video games? what games do boymoders like?
>>40962129i keep falling asleep instead of playing hitman>what games do boymoders like?rhythm games
>>40962129i bet she goes kyaa
>>40962129I used to play games like Celeste and Crypt of the Necrodancer, games where you die a lot and require a quick reaction time. I'm okay.Then I shifted to only playing with friends. Games like Stardew Valley, Astroneer, PlateUp!, etc., but I haven't even done that in some time.
>>40962147likely true... rts and shooters are like most boring shit ever. nothing interesting to look at even. and trying hard instead of relaxing. i dont get it...
>>40962129I play path of exile 2
QOTT: Do you have any stereotypical female interests? Do you repress those too? last thread: >>40945501
>>40962665repression isnt realstop feelign abd about yourself and either transition or at least admit you are faketroons and should just live your life as your agab like you could always dohope this helps
...fuck.previous: >>40836388Goal of the thread: I will not be fucked with that today.Daily goals can be repeated. Remember to keep score, it can only go up!>What is this thread for?Getting better is hard, and sucks. A lot. It does not get easier doing it alone.Share resources and experiences with combating depression, anxiety, personal issues, achieving or maintaining a healthy weight, etc.>Why is this thread /lgbt/?Struggles with mental and physical health are an indisputable part of /lgbt/ life, be it from dysphoria, social pressure, heartbreak, or just unfortunate lifestyle choices.>Notes to consider:Please be civil. Shame is your greatest enemy in fighting urges of self abuse (be it sh, drugs, or just self deprecation). Relapsing into bad and unhealthy habits is to be expected, the goal is to increase the average amount of time it takes between relapses. Any improvement is a victory no matter how small. Your worth and right to get better are non-negotiable. And most importantly:WE ARE NOT THERAPISTS, WE DON'T REPLACE MEDICATION>Note on adviceComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>40960981What brand of undies is that?
>>40884987This weekend was a total bust for productivity, at the very least I'll be able to get my sleep schedule back on track so there's that at least.How are you all doing?
>>40962458started getting sick on thursday, proper sick on friday, weekend's been a wash so far, but maybe I'll be able to do a load at the place I'm catsitting at for the last day so I don't have to deal with the usual housemate disaster at my place
Certain cumulative events in my recent life plus the unevenness of my own have made me realise transitioning was a mistake. I’ll silently stop and come out of it stronger. Better. It was a slight mistake nothing I can’t fix.Thanks for the years in and out everyone. Cya
>>40962453it literally says it on the wasitband.....
>vagina has a whole-ass microbiome you're not even supposed to clean ("it's totally self cleaning bro")>(straight) men constantly complaining about how the box can smell foul>(straight) men constantly complaining about pH levels>half of men wouldn't even consider cunnilingus >bleeds once a monthConsidered normal and fine and ideal, to say nothing of SRS or the decent likelihood of complications. You're also transphobic if you don't like this >say you like anal >EWWWWW BUT POOP COMES FROM THERE>IT'S DIRTY!!! (unlike the vagina you can thoroughly clean)>BUT IT HURTS>BUT IT'S INCONVENIENT>LOL YWNBAWWhy is this allowed? Is it just a purity spiral or or people too retarded to know how to train their butt or what? (This is never considered homophobic or transphobic.)
>>40959043your butt is also "genuinely self cleaning" but the fact theres gunk inside either is kinda lowkey gross. at the end of the day it's all just bacteria and unsanitary even if we pretend one is better than the other because half of the population has no real say in the matter. it's not like you can just not have sex.>>40959055trans men are amazing but we already knew this anon <3
>>40962510>it's not like you can just not have sex
>>40961857>ts like you take all your opinions from some gay men who never touched a vag.Yeah why would a gay guy post on the LGBT board and never touch a vag? Crazy right
>>40958770this, and they and their supporters deserve the gas
>>40959055for me it's the hairy man mansmell manskin part since I'm a straggot, otherwise it does sound like an improvement
>dysphoria-less people who didn't have a solid innate sense of self of themselves as the opposite sex from the start, who dislike some or all of the effects of hrt for any other reason than anti-trans social pressure, who detransition and try to drag one of the most hated minority groups into greater difficulty, or project the idea that because trans wasn't a thing for them, it's not a real thing for anyone else, who get listened to by cis people more than we do, who policed the trans community into accepting them in the first place before later complaining that they were affirmed, who don't believe people are born trans in the same way people are born gay and cite their experience as proof, people for whom being transgender was always gender ideology instead of something instinctual you felt in your bones before words so you can only think the rest of us are acting according to an ideology tooI know we're supposed to just chant something like "some people detransition and that's perfectly okay and valid! Everybody's journey is different and we should just support each other!", but I seriously struggle with this. I genuinely can't get over the idea that I've had this singular wish/desire/obsession/CURSE for as long as I've had a sense of self and have known with the same certainty now as 16 years ago when I was a kid that I wanted to be the opposite sex and have had what feels like the entire world and every structure of meaning try to push back and stop me from this single thing the whole way...
>>40962551Yeah vile humans who take advandage of a misunderstood "condition" is nothing new is itDetransitioners whongrift are just vile people and what you said of them is indeed very true and our culture is killing everything that isnt cis white and capitalist.Essentially I arrived to your conclusions through my own feelings. I didnt belong, I wasnt feeling the same etc etcJust what a fake tranny? It was ridiculous. And the more i scrutinized it the less sens eit made for me to be like people like you. So i just stopped simple.It was all just fake feelings.I got affirmed by people online and then believd in my own lies cause yeah it felt good right? But everything was off. And when the "choir" was playing I knew I wasnt part of it. So i left and slowly disappeared from everything relating to trans people. Because im nothing like you.I was just a lonely nerd with weird fetishes going into something thinking its the real me finally but nahI was just living a bad life and this wasnt the answer at all.I deeply believed at some point my desire to be "a trans woman" was a real thing and therapists even reinforced it, but they missed everyt feeling it seems. The feeling that I definitely arent that.Frankly we need mroe voices like yours. Differenciate the chaff so to speak.Actually a LOT of actual trans people need to talk about their ives, cause lmao the 99% has overtaken you again. So speak up and urge your community to speak up as well.Im nobody on the internet so I dont count as anythign and I want to be part of nothign like this.I truly thing we can help the real trans people that exist if they can speak and be understoodComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>40962049I love this, thanks for posting. Actual fraudulent and disgusting people dragging us down over their own regrets. Take responsibility ffs. Some of these """detransitioners""" don't even look like they touched HRT a day in their life, wtf are you even complaining about?And yeah, communities need to gatekeep themselves harder. Gatekeeping is only ever wrong when it's an outside party gatekeeping something from a separate group (e.g. government censoring media from civilians or pharma blocking HRT unless you go through various humiliation rituals). Internal gatekeeping simply maintains the identity of the group, no matter what the group is.>>40962584>cause lmao the 99% has overtaken you againit's not easy when you're so outnumbered just a fraction of a percent of cis people can grift and you get drowned out
>>40962643Sorry for trying to grift youill make up for it by donating and giving all my things to real traumatized trans people in hopes their lives get better
>>40962654>ill make up for it by donating and giving all my things to real traumatized trans people in hopes their lives get betterYou don't have to do that just umn... live a normal life, occasionally voice support with reason. Idk. You don't need to live a life of hating yourself or something we don't want that for you, we just want to be accepted by people in general.
>>40962693okill try my bestI hope trans people live their lives too, free and real
Im 31 realistically how likely am I to look like a cute girl? This is how I look roughly, maybe a little more manly IRL.
>>40961674he became weird after few years on hrt going from being buff theres no where else for him to go
>>40960869nice drawing schizophrenia
>>40960869you are not transyou are not a womanyou are not dysphoricyou are nothing but a man with some issuesleave and go live your life as a real manIf this hurts then please reevaluate why it doesBecause its trueyou are a manyou have always and will always be a man
>>40962684>>40960869samefag
>>40962690nope im not opi hope you understand I hope people like op need to be gone they are not transthey are not womenthey are menlet them live as men instead of validating and supplanting their emotional instability
I think this tweet perfectly encapsulates the transgender disagreement Pro trans will instinctively agree with it and anti trans will instinctively realize how stupid it is
their not sending they're best
>>40962552you probably look like a fucking goomba irl
>>40962552Considering that there's a significant amount of people expressing both these views at the same time, i think its (you) thats retarded here/end thread
>>40962545I’m anti trans and I gender trannies as women (derogatory)
>>40962585you are literally in the meme
I was just looking at FTM transition timelines. God, trans men are so cool. They're taking everything I never was. I wish I could be with a cool trans guy and we'd comfort each other and cry on each other's shoulders and hype each other up and also just be understanding of each other's dysphoria. Cis people just don't fucking get it. Even the ones who think they get it don't really get it, as much as I very much appreciate the cis people in my life who are supportive.t. a boymoder who's almost starting to look like a girl
>>40962636You deserve a real man
>>40962636i hope you will find your pooner boyfriend
>>40962668Trans men are real men. I just feel like I'm not feminine and womanly enough yet to deserve a boyfriend.
What’s the point of the makeup and lingerie if fucking a femboy is still gay
>>40962529Holy sexo
>>40962529>>40962564>>40962569Like I'm gay, and pic rel is far too fem for me to be interested. like i'm ok with androgyny, but thats too fem.
>>40962529Male + male = homosexualYou are the most notorious gay person on this board and the worst tripfag
>>40962572Cool story faggot. Unfortunately despite your arbitration liking a dick and balls as a man is infact gay.
>>40962498Making a cute guy wear a dress & calling him a girl before I fuck him. It’s like a multilayered perversion.
The male loneliness epidemic hit zoomers so fucking hard that there is an entire genre of boys now that have completely fagged out because they are too delicate for manhood. They have been socially and economically feminized and gone from what would have been completely straight, normal sensitive guys to homoerotic bottoms. Nobody seems to want to talk about it because it would involve swallowing some hard truths but it is clear as day. As a millennial man there is just a prime bussy buffet out there of the most affection craving, nastiest, neediest bottoms.
>>40952206How exactly are you supposed to recover from being like this? No matter how much I try to suppress it it just doesn't let go, I'm tired of thinking about doing stuff with men all the time when I know I can't make any of that work, it gets so frustrating to just never be able to ignore it
>>40961607NTA but I don't like stinky cock desusucked my first one last week, it was clean and odorless and I loved it
JUST FUCK ALREADY
>>40956568I mostly met gays irl as friends or FTM my entire interaction and attraction to mtf is based on here but in my experince femboys like this are everything I wish trans women were. They are fun, do not stress about stuff and know its a sexual larp most of the time Unless you pass 100% just saying you are a cross dressing femboy solves literally every issue in the trans community. Wanting to be a women is a weird nebulous thing but wanting to be hot is universally understood also did they do actual porn cause i gotta nut
>>40952747>momentum but with the internet you just step over every cultural and sociological boundary that was meticulously crafted over hundreds of years so peoples sons would turn out normalgood. cage is rusty now. they shall be set free. fuck being "normal" man. thats deranged af. like tolkiens orc, beauitiful souls made evil and wicked through torment.fear not, freedom comes.
>QOTT: Is this the end for terje?>QOTT2: Will he ever escape Gloves gaping maw?
This is bad, im starting to hate transwomen
>>40962539Why anon
>>40959817This has to be at least the 5th thread I've seen with this pic. >>40962539Why hate when you can date.
>>40962592Transwomen are so fucking rude and they do not care about us. A lot of them are totally brain broken, and they have completely co-opted the trans label. The moment transmen try to have anything, transwomen fuck it up. >>40962603I date one and shes one of the few good ones which makes me feel guilty.
>>40962619>do not care about us. Personally I try to have active opinions instead of reactive opinions. I mostly only follow my strict moral compass and sense of self and when I see other people failing my standards I feel sorry for them (because moral failing is personal failing) but I'm not compelled to act differently. Example: I am respectful of others because I value that behavior whatever may be the way the other person acts.>A lot of them are totally brain brokenCommon transexual trait. >they have completely co-opted the trans labelYes, no, maybe. Personally I prefer to be associated to binary trans people then the majority of trans mascs etc etc... But either way I'm not trying to present myself as trans publicly so all this internet identity war does not interest me much.>The moment transmen try to have anything, transwomen fuck it up.Are you referring to something specific I don't know about?>I date one and shes one of the few good ones which makes me feel guilty.Irl trannies will always be more sensible then the online ones. Thats why I am spending less and less time in online trans spaces (or online in general).