What if I regret HRT? Considering buying needles now . .
>>40966293Depending on the length of time on it, you will have to begin taking hrt that corresponds to your natal sex
>>40966301I think my OCD is just playing tricks on me
I don't know you anon, but I think you should at least try. Check back in one or two years after, if there are little to no changes call it quits, but chances are you'll be pleasantly surprised
>>40966293You'll regret it. Even in the best of cases, even if you "pass" to most unobservant people, you will still be a mangled, infertile monstrosity. Taking HRT is a suicide pact, a false promise of a new identity as a woman but you actually become a monster.
>>40966443me if I was a self hating retard
how do i find a decent boyfriend when im a mentally ill unemployed loser who doesn’t have anyone irl and doesn’t go outside ;-;people tell me i pass really well. i have a cute, passing, but soft/weak voice, im good at voice training and can do several voices. people seem to find me attractive, im skinny, i a soft, gentle, kind and feminine personality. i introspect a lot and love thinking about the world, and people always tell me im smart and that im really helpful. im creative, and i think i have good artistic taste. i think i have good intrapersonal skills, but i do get really really bad social anxiety. i get hit on a lot irl, not the types that i think i would pair well with though …i don’t want just a sex thing, i want connectionim so mentally ill, incompetent and codependent. is it over for me? i want a boyfriend so bad, im also so scared of men. im so pathetic
>>40966337All guys introspect on a much deeper level than you. That's why they want sex aswell and that's also why guy's attention is more valuable than women's and why you want them to talk to you. But to get on that level you must also understand and have sex with them on the same level. The better the sex the better the depth of conversation they'd be willing to talk to you about because they will not feel like they're being exploited.
>>40966368Same argument in reverse. If you're truly compatible with someone you would be excited have sex with them and not feel like it's a chore. Just reverse every followup argument you have and convert conversation to sex and you'll get it. Then do both and your relationship will be good. You can't be so selfish and expect guys to want to take your conversation seriously.
>>40966400i agree with your first two sentences, thats why i said this about sex >i view sex as something fun and intimate, but also brings two people a lot closer. but i don’t think it’s required for connection, and i don’t want to be a slave to someone else’s sex drive, in the same way im not a slave to my own
>>40966378To explain it in another way. You're attracted to the mind of the man while he's attracted to your body. You want to have deep conversations because you yourself are too shallow and need a man to help with this it will raise the level of conversations you can have. Same thing with sex. Guys don't need deep conversation because they always have it within themselves because our minds are way smarter than you give us credit for. They will not feel like sharing it with you if you don't give them what they do not have. And that is a higher level of pleasure than simply masturbating. If you can't be better than my own hand I don't want to have a deep conversation with you. If you annoy me with your shallow conversation too much and there's no decent sex to pay for that annoyance in pleasure worth the annoyance then the relationship is always doomed. Sex costs you absolutely nothing just like conversation but if we only talk then I'm the only one giving to the relationship.
>>40966383what are you basing this off of? why do you believe this?
i hate living alone. i hate wearing the same cloth*es everyday and being smelly. i hate not having a job. i hate having a messy house. i ave not hving money. i hate not having food. hate not being able to sleep. i hate not really looking to much like a girl.. i hate not having a good mummy.but still, i want my mummy.- i want my mummy. i want my mummy. i want my mummy. i want hugs and kisses from my mummy. i want mummy to tell me everything's going to be okay. i want mummy to help me. i want my mummy.
bingo dingusjimbly joejumpity jumplestickity toedangly daroongaborungo baleebaripple sarippledaroodle daree!
>>40965507i wish i could hold you :(
>>40966376(hugs u through text)
>>40966405you'll be alright, love. you're strong and smart and good
>>40965507force yourself to be autistic about buses and hang about trans/bus circles and eventually you'll find some weird transbian polyfuck to mummy you, there's a surprising amount in this forsaken country
When you introspect what in your subjective experience tells you that you're trans? Like to you just have an ambient sense you are X gender or what?
>>40966077yeah being trans is more about your objective reality than subjective experience if you're living with the appearance of other sex and taking hormones artificially you're trans no matter what you feel
>>40966104>what broke me out of it was getting suicidal to the point of making plans and taking actionDefinitely been there, multiple times. Also constantly passively suicidal since around the beginning of puberty. Never made any connection to gender until 20 though, which makes me doubt it.>i was lying to myself to pretend i wasn't hurting.I might be doing this, but I can't tell. Can't discern what's real and what's not anymore.>explore more positive potential emotions wrt gender>explore more positive potential emotions wrt genderI've tried, but it's been a fruitless endeavor. The only reason I'm even considered this to begin with is because of a dream I had about a year ago where I was a woman and felt alive in a way I never did before.>that is, try getting people to treat you as a girl or have a more feminine presentation and see how you reactFeels horrible, but only because I'm aware of how much of a man I actually am. Can't tell whether that's dysphoria though, or me not liking a feminine presentation
>>40966024>fuck off, disabled people don't lose a portion of their humanity!They lose a small portion. But think carefully about what the most exploitable part of a human is. Is it their bodies? Or is it their minds dealing with the pain inflicted via their bodies? I'd say what makes us exploitable is more what goes on inside our heads than our legs or hands or even our eyes. anything, disabled people are even more exploitable and possessable and thus valuable in some ways. Otherwise, rapists would just buy flesh-like replicas because it's easier. Otherwise, nobody would fall genuinely in love with disabled people. What makes us human and valuable(and thus vulnerable) happens inside our minds mostly. I will conceed that value doesn't mean much if you can't own yourself or find a good owner. But it's the 21st century. Even if women didn't have rights(and they do), they'd have men fighting over women online constantly presuming you're not in bumfuck nowhere like the middle east. Historically, where there is patriarchal power, a woman is oppressed to the degree she can't get thousands of men fighting over her. Women getting rights was kind of an inevitability with the advance of communacative technology.
>>40960593It was so long ago that I no longer recall. I wish I did, and I certainly prefer to live life this way compared to falling into degenerate Faragism, but a part of me does wonder what life I would lived had my parents done my due diligence and didn't give me unrestricted internet access that told me that being trans was indeed possible from a young age.i probably still would have changed my name though, but i imagine i would have had a better relationship with my family and would probably have gone onto university and focused on my studies instead of having to spend a large part of my time justifying my own existence and fighting an entangled web of pointless bureaucratic battles just to be mei would probably be a better person than I am now - if only a bit sadder and confused as to how I always end up making friends with women. would i rather be depressed and dysphoric or depressed and female? its an odd question and desu i don't think even i know the answer.i occasionally get depressive spouts of intense regret of transitioning but i just shut it out of my brain, as i vaguely recall failing to do with being transsexual in the first place
>>40960678is pain an emotion?
you have a duty to save an incel. dont be selfish
>>40964899>slowly making him transBased pinkpiller
>>40961159a girl likes me alot and hangs out with me every night lately.she said she'd bake some bagels for me and bring them to me tonight.i can tell she likes me alot. but its still early so.the reason im telling you.is cause shes a celibate.idk why. maybe trauama, or std, no idea wy.maybe lesbian, or lying. but i dont think so cause we hang out every night and her phone doesnt beep no ones calling her, only randoms try to hit on her, and she does good.so idk. shes pretty hot too.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>40964899farage?Nigel Farage?what does he have to do with being an incel or trans
>>40965896incels think women are leftie faggots who need shot. unsurprising overlap with conservative voters
>>40965903no we won't
Is it ok for a top to invite his bottom bf to boys night?
How much longer until they start using this logic against hrt providers?
>>40965480>Once no one cares about them anymore, we can actually fight for real issues that matter like healthcare.if you're willing to ditch people for your agenda then why the fuck should people care about you either
>>40965013i didn't know being near unrest is a crime.
>>40966066I mean when you look at polls (if you believe those), the only reason they look so bleak on trans issues is that conservatives have unanimous consensus on trans stuff. If you look at moderates and Democrats opinions are more divided but ultimately lean more supportive on fundamental stuff like anti-discrimination and "they should be allowed to exist" type of questions. Moderates wouldn't be marching the streets on trans people's behalf or anything, but they'd care enough to voice that it was vastly too far. It would be another part of a long list of things where the right overstepped the mark at the expense of more moderate tastes and all of that taken together USUALLY translates to a lost election for conservatives, if we have legitimate elections moving forward.
>>40966137Transexuals have always been a waste of everybody's time in the political sphere. They really thought they were going to be the next civil rights/gay rights, etc, social issue. But no. They just kind of suck.I don't care about a group of people that have been nothing but an albatross. They were a fad issue for far too long. We got rid of them and now can talk about real issues that matter. Like healthcare or any other issue that actually matters.
Want to talk about cartels? Mexican here.Basically, it's an illegal business run by rich people. They hire poor people who usually live on the border. The cartel's business isn't just drugs, but human trafficking, prostitution, and organized crime. This can exist with the help of corrupt politicians. I'm not just talking about corrupt Mexican politicians, but also Americans who allow all this to happen.Mexico is just a warehouse, the drugs are stored in Mexico, the Mexican cartel takes care of that drug and sends it to the north, the raw material comes from China, and the American gangs and the organized crime in their cities are in charge of selling and distributing the drugs... there is a whole logistics, but the owners are not Mexican, it is surely another person similar to Epstein.Mexico has lithium. Mexican lithium mines are literally under Texas. They discovered that less than six years ago... so guess why all this drama is about.The Mexican cartel is a cancer. Out of every 1,000 Mexicans, 1 is a crazy terrorist. There are 130 million of us, but the average Mexican is not to blame for that. Mexico is a peaceful place most of the time. It's only in marginalized areas where this happens.You can't go to war against the cartel. We already tried in 2006. They attack civilians, literally thousands of people dead. It's an evil that will never end until addicts stop using drugs.
im thinking about starting pio, but i cant find much about itim two years hrt, been on and off prog for the past 6 months, 5'10'', 66kg/146lbs.i know the whole point is to gain weight while on it, so should i lose weight before starting? if so, what weight should i aim to be beforehand, and how much should i gain?i also remember reading somewhere that there is a less risky alternative with the same effects, is this true? is there anything else i should consider taking alongside it, or just in general?where can i source it in the uk? anything else i should know?thanks :3
>>40965905pio is fucking amazing if you do literally anything other than keep exactly the same weight. if you gain weight on it, you grow fat deposits. if you lose weight on it, you lose fat in places you dont want it and what you dont burn gets redistributed to areas you do want it. ive heard it works particularly well with retatrutide.>i also remember reading somewhere that there is a less risky alternative with the same effects, is this true? not really. there are similar drugs but none are as potent as pioglitazone. its the reference drug in all studies on fat cell growth and almost nothing else comes close. however...good things that have helpful effects that go even harder when combined with it include fish oil (adipogenic effects), arginine (mobilises fat deposits through GH related effects), retatrutide (dont combine with arginine), prog (boosts feminine fat deposit lipid uptake) (topical or injection preferred).do not eat a high sugar diet with this, stomach fat is more sensitive to insulin than other fat sites and youll ruin your results from it. go for high meat and fat content, thats your best bet to maximising results.
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>>40964751>People see it that way because we talk about more general topics than just dysphoria and wanting to kill ourselves even though we talk about those a lot too. So people assume femreppers are happier when it's just that it's more interesting to discuss other stuff sometimes than how much shit sucksretards in moidrepgen will go on and on about how women are drones with no personality but people in femrpegen usually have actual hobbies besides video games and dooming, meanwhile the moids have nothing substantial to their character
>>40964673can i only use like 3 inches instead and save the rest for idk somehow making my proportions a bit less feminine without directly affecting my heighti literally would be happy with a dick even if it was that small, and idc much about height its the female proportions that bother me the most
>>40964904height impacts proportions tho
>>40964919not really, even the tallest cis women ive seen look undoubtedly female and not at all like trannies would at that height. that would be the least thing id want
I hate my voice so much I try to speak as little as possibleHaving a frog voice is the only thing that could be worse because it's still so obviously female
>born with receiving genitals >no way to change it into giving genitalsshould i just kill myself
>>40966200I already have it. And my designer tight axe wound surely mogs your weird cheesey probably encased in fat birthing hole you call your genitalia.Any other quips? You sure seem to love taking the high road and avoiding confrontation for someone who is allegedly male?Maybe just concede that soulpassing is bullshit, and therefore you are an intruder.
>>40965848if you act irl the same way you act online i can name several reasons you get no bitches and you will never get bitches no matter how good you look
>>40964718welcome to the club :((((((my parents will never admit they were in the wrong to cut me up
>>40966245Don't know don't care I have a boyfriend.
>>40965864Alright, so why not start it with more realistic expectations? That way you can skip that whole “delusion” thing you’re convinced everyone else must be doing.
>le greentext>25, passoid luckshit, voice still gets me clocked >voice training hard :(>usually pass until i speak>at work have a woman asking me for a price on a part>"oh hey sweetheart!! you work here?!">yes->"wow your voice is so deep!! are you sick or something??">i say no, ask her for details on what she needed to speed the whole interaction along>"oh but what is it? i used to have a deeper voice too!! do you smoke??">decide to yolo, "im one of the people nobody likes">"what do you mean?">i'm trans->"ohh ohh! i have a gay daughter!! she always dresses like a man and i never understood why she'd want to be a man, i didnt have a boy i had a girl!!">im just bleakly staring>"you're so pretty though!! your smile and oh my god you have such nice hands!!"Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>40965862because you pass so well if you didn't pass nobody would bring it up
>>40965862If a woman is touching you, especially reaching out and taking your hand it means she is very comfortable with you and sees you as a woman. Women absolutely will not make eye contact with, let alone touch a strange man. Women are touchy feely with each other, nona.
>>40965862>pass completely and get given compliments by randoms>WI IZ MI LIF ZO HARD?!?!?!?!!
>>40965900obviously not. voice is like half of passing
this is exactly the vicarious experience i needed to voice train
>pooned out 6'2 dutch>trooned out 5'2 asianbasically a straight couple, does this exist?
>>40966105Post proofs
>>40966162I won't make that mistake again.
>>40966105Statistics say you're lying
>>409660605'8 to 6'0 is the perfect range for pooners, it's where you're tall enough to look male but short enough to still build good muscles without fucking yourself with heavy roids
>>40966219Okay? This is just the inverse equivalent of this. You don't understand statistics>>40966222Exactly
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should i drink?
you should mix me a drink
>>40966065the answer is always yes
i cant drink hard liquor anymore
Got laser done today. I'm such a silly man.
>QOTT: Is this the end for terje?>QOTT2: Will he ever escape Gloves gaping maw?
>>40966241Then you'd probably not enjoy it here outside of winter. Perhaps Melbourne might suit, Tasmania even more.
>>40966236Plenty of SEA mtfs. It's almost as common there as South America.
>>40966236I'm sure that outside Mongols, Asians are pretty much a female race only
>>40966304most likely not, the only cities i've enjoyed visiting climatewise were seattle, NYC. even then i've been in seattle in summer and it was too much for me.
>>40966366During summer Australia tends to feel like it's a short drive to the sun. But luckily air con is fairly common.
i cant cut myself or kill myself because i was stupid enough to make people and animal care about me.im tired of this tranny existence and its too much for me. my flesh prison disgusts me daily and i cannot tolerate it well at all. if im left alone with my thoughts it takes no longer than 10 minutes for my mind to find itself enthralled with the idea of ending my life.in the past week alone ive thought abouthanging myselfshooting myselftaking a bunch of pillsziptying a bag over my head and ziptying my wristsslicing my wrists open in a warm bathjumping in front of a truckjumping off a buildingdriving headfirst into traffic or an immovable objectwhy am i so creative with these methods? why cant i be creative in ways to improve my life or cope better with trannyshit?
>>40965337uh hug. and a real cutie too.
>>40965355nigga this bitch is a straight up pedophile and youre feining after him?
>>40965556baby gets the tenderest cuts because she attracts them by her purity of heart.
>>40964293why are passoids the most ungrateful and mentally ill?
>>40966342fellerim 6'1 in shoesim 200lbsmy underbust is 34 inches (38C Bra)im 80-90th percentile for most proportions on top of being 99.5th percentile for height.not a passoidstop fucking gaslighting me and hugboxing me.