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When you introspect what in your subjective experience tells you that you're trans? Like to you just have an ambient sense you are X gender or what?
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>>40966077
yeah being trans is more about your objective reality than subjective experience
if you're living with the appearance of other sex and taking hormones artificially you're trans no matter what you feel
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>>40966104
>what broke me out of it was getting suicidal to the point of making plans and taking action
Definitely been there, multiple times. Also constantly passively suicidal since around the beginning of puberty. Never made any connection to gender until 20 though, which makes me doubt it.
>i was lying to myself to pretend i wasn't hurting.
I might be doing this, but I can't tell. Can't discern what's real and what's not anymore.
>explore more positive potential emotions wrt gender
>explore more positive potential emotions wrt gender
I've tried, but it's been a fruitless endeavor. The only reason I'm even considered this to begin with is because of a dream I had about a year ago where I was a woman and felt alive in a way I never did before.
>that is, try getting people to treat you as a girl or have a more feminine presentation and see how you react
Feels horrible, but only because I'm aware of how much of a man I actually am. Can't tell whether that's dysphoria though, or me not liking a feminine presentation
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>>40966024
>fuck off, disabled people don't lose a portion of their humanity!
They lose a small portion. But think carefully about what the most exploitable part of a human is. Is it their bodies? Or is it their minds dealing with the pain inflicted via their bodies? I'd say what makes us exploitable is more what goes on inside our heads than our legs or hands or even our eyes. anything, disabled people are even more exploitable and possessable and thus valuable in some ways. Otherwise, rapists would just buy flesh-like replicas because it's easier. Otherwise, nobody would fall genuinely in love with disabled people. What makes us human and valuable(and thus vulnerable) happens inside our minds mostly.

I will conceed that value doesn't mean much if you can't own yourself or find a good owner. But it's the 21st century. Even if women didn't have rights(and they do), they'd have men fighting over women online constantly presuming you're not in bumfuck nowhere like the middle east. Historically, where there is patriarchal power, a woman is oppressed to the degree she can't get thousands of men fighting over her. Women getting rights was kind of an inevitability with the advance of communacative technology.
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>>40960593
It was so long ago that I no longer recall. I wish I did, and I certainly prefer to live life this way compared to falling into degenerate Faragism, but a part of me does wonder what life I would lived had my parents done my due diligence and didn't give me unrestricted internet access that told me that being trans was indeed possible from a young age.

i probably still would have changed my name though, but i imagine i would have had a better relationship with my family and would probably have gone onto university and focused on my studies instead of having to spend a large part of my time justifying my own existence and fighting an entangled web of pointless bureaucratic battles just to be me

i would probably be a better person than I am now - if only a bit sadder and confused as to how I always end up making friends with women. would i rather be depressed and dysphoric or depressed and female? its an odd question and desu i don't think even i know the answer.

i occasionally get depressive spouts of intense regret of transitioning but i just shut it out of my brain, as i vaguely recall failing to do with being transsexual in the first place
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>>40960678
is pain an emotion?

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you have a duty to save an incel. dont be selfish
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>>40964899
>slowly making him trans
Based pinkpiller
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>>40961159
a girl likes me alot and hangs out with me every night lately.
she said she'd bake some bagels for me and bring them to me tonight.

i can tell she likes me alot. but its still early so.

the reason im telling you.
is cause shes a celibate.

idk why.
maybe trauama, or std, no idea wy.
maybe lesbian, or lying.
but i dont think so cause we hang out every night and her phone doesnt beep no ones calling her, only randoms try to hit on her, and she does good.

so idk. shes pretty hot too.

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>>40964899
farage?
Nigel Farage?
what does he have to do with being an incel or trans
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>>40965896
incels think women are leftie faggots who need shot. unsurprising overlap with conservative voters
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>>40965903
no we won't

Is it ok for a top to invite his bottom bf to boys night?

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How much longer until they start using this logic against hrt providers?
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>>40965480
>Once no one cares about them anymore, we can actually fight for real issues that matter like healthcare.
if you're willing to ditch people for your agenda then why the fuck should people care about you either
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>>40965013
i didn't know being near unrest is a crime.
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>>40966066
I mean when you look at polls (if you believe those), the only reason they look so bleak on trans issues is that conservatives have unanimous consensus on trans stuff. If you look at moderates and Democrats opinions are more divided but ultimately lean more supportive on fundamental stuff like anti-discrimination and "they should be allowed to exist" type of questions. Moderates wouldn't be marching the streets on trans people's behalf or anything, but they'd care enough to voice that it was vastly too far. It would be another part of a long list of things where the right overstepped the mark at the expense of more moderate tastes and all of that taken together USUALLY translates to a lost election for conservatives, if we have legitimate elections moving forward.
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>>40966137
Transexuals have always been a waste of everybody's time in the political sphere. They really thought they were going to be the next civil rights/gay rights, etc, social issue. But no. They just kind of suck.

I don't care about a group of people that have been nothing but an albatross. They were a fad issue for far too long. We got rid of them and now can talk about real issues that matter. Like healthcare or any other issue that actually matters.
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Want to talk about cartels? Mexican here.

Basically, it's an illegal business run by rich people. They hire poor people who usually live on the border. The cartel's business isn't just drugs, but human trafficking, prostitution, and organized crime. This can exist with the help of corrupt politicians. I'm not just talking about corrupt Mexican politicians, but also Americans who allow all this to happen.

Mexico is just a warehouse, the drugs are stored in Mexico, the Mexican cartel takes care of that drug and sends it to the north, the raw material comes from China, and the American gangs and the organized crime in their cities are in charge of selling and distributing the drugs... there is a whole logistics, but the owners are not Mexican, it is surely another person similar to Epstein.

Mexico has lithium. Mexican lithium mines are literally under Texas. They discovered that less than six years ago... so guess why all this drama is about.

The Mexican cartel is a cancer. Out of every 1,000 Mexicans, 1 is a crazy terrorist. There are 130 million of us, but the average Mexican is not to blame for that. Mexico is a peaceful place most of the time. It's only in marginalized areas where this happens.

You can't go to war against the cartel. We already tried in 2006. They attack civilians, literally thousands of people dead. It's an evil that will never end until addicts stop using drugs.

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im thinking about starting pio, but i cant find much about it

im two years hrt, been on and off prog for the past 6 months, 5'10'', 66kg/146lbs.

i know the whole point is to gain weight while on it, so should i lose weight before starting? if so, what weight should i aim to be beforehand, and how much should i gain?

i also remember reading somewhere that there is a less risky alternative with the same effects, is this true? is there anything else i should consider taking alongside it, or just in general?

where can i source it in the uk? anything else i should know?

thanks :3
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>>40965905
pio is fucking amazing if you do literally anything other than keep exactly the same weight. if you gain weight on it, you grow fat deposits. if you lose weight on it, you lose fat in places you dont want it and what you dont burn gets redistributed to areas you do want it. ive heard it works particularly well with retatrutide.

>i also remember reading somewhere that there is a less risky alternative with the same effects, is this true?
not really. there are similar drugs but none are as potent as pioglitazone. its the reference drug in all studies on fat cell growth and almost nothing else comes close. however...

good things that have helpful effects that go even harder when combined with it include fish oil (adipogenic effects), arginine (mobilises fat deposits through GH related effects), retatrutide (dont combine with arginine), prog (boosts feminine fat deposit lipid uptake) (topical or injection preferred).

do not eat a high sugar diet with this, stomach fat is more sensitive to insulin than other fat sites and youll ruin your results from it. go for high meat and fat content, thats your best bet to maximising results.

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i'm not dysphoric but i have extreme orgasm and vagina envy and want to have sex or masturbate like a woman

is it worth taking HRT despite being a disgusting male pervert that is chasing hedonism and then killing myself if i can't have good orgasms?
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>>40966173
>Dick basically stops working,
stops working in a male way? like you can still use a vibrator on it like a clit no?

>Very small portions, very healthy food, no junk food,low stress,
so just live healthy?

the low stress part idk if that can be helped since i still need to work and my job is very draining

>>40966211
i am jealous of the femcels that can be high libido and spend their time bedrotting masturbating for hours
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>>40965984
>femininity is mostly about lifestyle and diet, which has the biggest effect on hormones.
Can you go into detail on this
I don't take hormones, but I've noticed staying very relaxed throughout the day contributes to a youthful appearance and soft features, like the blood literally travels through your face more evenly and makes you look better. And I notice women are more naturally suited to jobs that require light but constant amounts of effort, whereas men gravitate towards jobs that are really stressful and have acute busy periods with periods of relaxation between
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>>40966283
>>40966173
Oh shit i missed your reply
Anyway to add something to your list, I think chores are a very huge part of a "feminine lifestyle". Like scientists pretty much agree that the primary reason women live longer than men is because they stay far more active in old age doing random housework, whereas a disgruntled old man just parks his ass in front of the TV until something important comes up, which in his old age means pretty much never doing shit.

The feminine qi is almost like all your energy is just evenly spread like butter. If you want to balance yourself towards more feminine energy, you need to dispense with acute bursts of energy, relax, hone in on your immediate environment, stay focused, etc.
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>>40966046
>but you dont always have a guy with you
i KNOW it sucks
if i get horny like that and dont have a guy to do stuff with i dont really do anything, like theres 0 desire there to masturbate
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>>40966283
>I've noticed staying very relaxed throughout the day contributes to a youthful appearance and soft features,
there's always something to worry about

>And I notice women are more naturally suited to jobs that require light but constant amounts of effort,
but where are those jobs and what are you considering light effort?

>whereas men gravitate towards jobs that are really stressful and have acute busy periods with periods of relaxation between
this might also be part of why males have higher autism and adhd rates, and why women do better in education

>>40966319
>whereas a disgruntled old man just parks his ass in front of the TV until something important comes up, which in his old age means pretty much never doing shit.
also their lifestyles leading up to retirement were probably more taxing on the body

>>40966351

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QOTT: favorite fantasy creature?
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>>40964751
>People see it that way because we talk about more general topics than just dysphoria and wanting to kill ourselves even though we talk about those a lot too. So people assume femreppers are happier when it's just that it's more interesting to discuss other stuff sometimes than how much shit sucks
retards in moidrepgen will go on and on about how women are drones with no personality but people in femrpegen usually have actual hobbies besides video games and dooming, meanwhile the moids have nothing substantial to their character
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>>40964673
can i only use like 3 inches instead and save the rest for idk somehow making my proportions a bit less feminine without directly affecting my height

i literally would be happy with a dick even if it was that small, and idc much about height its the female proportions that bother me the most
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>>40964904
height impacts proportions tho
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>>40964919
not really, even the tallest cis women ive seen look undoubtedly female and not at all like trannies would at that height. that would be the least thing id want
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I hate my voice so much I try to speak as little as possible
Having a frog voice is the only thing that could be worse because it's still so obviously female

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>born with receiving genitals
>no way to change it into giving genitals
should i just kill myself
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>>40966200
I already have it. And my designer tight axe wound surely mogs your weird cheesey probably encased in fat birthing hole you call your genitalia.

Any other quips? You sure seem to love taking the high road and avoiding confrontation for someone who is allegedly male?

Maybe just concede that soulpassing is bullshit, and therefore you are an intruder.
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>>40965848
if you act irl the same way you act online i can name several reasons you get no bitches and you will never get bitches no matter how good you look
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>>40964718
welcome to the club :((((((
my parents will never admit they were in the wrong to cut me up
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>>40966245
Don't know don't care I have a boyfriend.
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>>40965864
Alright, so why not start it with more realistic expectations? That way you can skip that whole “delusion” thing you’re convinced everyone else must be doing.

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>le greentext
>25, passoid luckshit, voice still gets me clocked >voice training hard :(
>usually pass until i speak
>at work have a woman asking me for a price on a part
>"oh hey sweetheart!! you work here?!"
>yes-
>"wow your voice is so deep!! are you sick or something??"
>i say no, ask her for details on what she needed to speed the whole interaction along
>"oh but what is it? i used to have a deeper voice too!! do you smoke??"
>decide to yolo, "im one of the people nobody likes"
>"what do you mean?"
>i'm trans-
>"ohh ohh! i have a gay daughter!! she always dresses like a man and i never understood why she'd want to be a man, i didnt have a boy i had a girl!!"
>im just bleakly staring
>"you're so pretty though!! your smile and oh my god you have such nice hands!!"

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>>40965862
because you pass so well if you didn't pass nobody would bring it up
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>>40965862
If a woman is touching you, especially reaching out and taking your hand it means she is very comfortable with you and sees you as a woman. Women absolutely will not make eye contact with, let alone touch a strange man. Women are touchy feely with each other, nona.
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>>40965862
>pass completely and get given compliments by randoms
>WI IZ MI LIF ZO HARD?!?!?!?!!
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>>40965900
obviously not. voice is like half of passing
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this is exactly the vicarious experience i needed to voice train

Im not particularly gay. Meaning i dont feel romantic or sexual attraction to men. But somehow wearing feminine clothes and playing with my ass feels good. I want a girlfriend that i can fuck, but thats not happening anytime soon so i just have fun by myself...
What would you guys call this.
I have had a homosexual exprience and it didnt really do it for me. But feminine stuff is hot.
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>>40966356
agp
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>>40966356
Please be my boyfriend (I'm a loser trans girl)
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>>40966380
Elaborate on yourself
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>>40966380
he already said he doesn't like men

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>pooned out 6'2 dutch
>trooned out 5'2 asian
basically a straight couple, does this exist?
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>>40966105
Post proofs
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>>40966162
I won't make that mistake again.
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>>40966105
Statistics say you're lying
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>>40966060
5'8 to 6'0 is the perfect range for pooners, it's where you're tall enough to look male but short enough to still build good muscles without fucking yourself with heavy roids
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>>40966219
Okay? This is just the inverse equivalent of this. You don't understand statistics
>>40966222
Exactly

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The Thread edition
QOTT: any of yous know how to sew?
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should i drink?
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you should mix me a drink
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>>40966065
the answer is always yes
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i cant drink hard liquor anymore
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Got laser done today. I'm such a silly man.

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>QOTT: Is this the end for terje?
>QOTT2: Will he ever escape Gloves gaping maw?
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>>40966241
Then you'd probably not enjoy it here outside of winter. Perhaps Melbourne might suit, Tasmania even more.
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>>40966236
Plenty of SEA mtfs. It's almost as common there as South America.
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>>40966236
I'm sure that outside Mongols, Asians are pretty much a female race only
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>>40966304
most likely not, the only cities i've enjoyed visiting climatewise were seattle, NYC. even then i've been in seattle in summer and it was too much for me.
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>>40966366
During summer Australia tends to feel like it's a short drive to the sun. But luckily air con is fairly common.

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i cant cut myself or kill myself because i was stupid enough to make people and animal care about me.

im tired of this tranny existence and its too much for me. my flesh prison disgusts me daily and i cannot tolerate it well at all. if im left alone with my thoughts it takes no longer than 10 minutes for my mind to find itself enthralled with the idea of ending my life.

in the past week alone ive thought about
hanging myself
shooting myself
taking a bunch of pills
ziptying a bag over my head and ziptying my wrists
slicing my wrists open in a warm bath
jumping in front of a truck
jumping off a building
driving headfirst into traffic or an immovable object

why am i so creative with these methods? why cant i be creative in ways to improve my life or cope better with trannyshit?
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>>40965337
uh hug. and a real cutie too.
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>>40965355
nigga this bitch is a straight up pedophile and youre feining after him?
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>>40965556
baby gets the tenderest cuts because she attracts them by her purity of heart.
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>>40964293
why are passoids the most ungrateful and mentally ill?
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>>40966342
feller
im 6'1 in shoes
im 200lbs
my underbust is 34 inches (38C Bra)
im 80-90th percentile for most proportions on top of being 99.5th percentile for height.
not a passoid
stop fucking gaslighting me and hugboxing me.

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Post your face and provide critiques for other tranners
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>>40961267
>xhe doesnt know
mel is a bdd gigapassoid
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>>40959753
Fat woman
This level of fat is probably unhealthy
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>>40961152
My nose and lip piercings yeah, the nose ones hurt a lot cause of all the swelling
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>>40963839
>the AGP gotta a hold of your real tight and heavy
wat
>are you gonna get a corset
idk maybe
they’re kinda expensive
I should prob just eat less and see where that gets me
>>40963516
binding? why?
I’m sorry it hurts right now… ik that must ring hollow coming from some batshit passoid on the internet but fuck, I was in ur position too once
looking at the girls here and thinking God why not me
I think I know how u feel

you flatter an old hon, both of you
thank u for the kind words
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>>40966148
How can you don't realise how you are fking perfect ? Cispassing and pretty.


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