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How do you learn to philosophize? I read philosophy books but i never learn to philosophize. I never learn to use those fancy words like epistomoleogoogy; i only learn what they kinda mean but i never have a sure feeling of it and have to look it up all the time.
Is philosophy only for high iq people? I feel utterly lost so much so i don't even bother to talk about it with other people.
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>>24946750
So? He used math to formally describe and prove his hypothesis, not to come up with the hypothesis itself. Like I said, it’s a tool.
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>>24946020
By asking questions. Some are answered by practical sciences, others by thought alone. If you can read a passage and disagree, you're philosophizing
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I cant do anything but metaphysics and no matter how robust or where I started I always ended back at soul slavery. I moved to a different subject.
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>>24946202
Explain Godel's theorems like im five
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>>24946020
The anons saying it's about inquiring and asking questions are on the mark, or, at least, that's how philosophizing starts. The two main approaches amount to 1) theorizing from the start, or 2) taking account of the predominant or highest opinions related to your questions, investigating them, and theorizing from there. The end sought is wisdom or knowledge of the matters your questions are about, either fully as that wisdom seemed to amount to at the start, or a wisdom qualified by what's achievable as wisdom. Whether there are methods philosophy uses is a bit more of an open question, to the extent that satisfying oneself that it uses formal logic or experiment may be an opinion that itself requires becoming more clear about (that's not to say it's wrong, but it's taking as given what may need to be reasoned about for oneself). If you can take the first step of both becoming clear about the questions, and what you believe right now about those subjects and why, you'll at least be on the way to beginning to philosophize.

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I willingly didnt return my library books after the library near me is suddenly going through unexpected renovations and its been sitting on my shelf for close to a year since i was too lazy to drive across town to another library.I was planning on returning the books when the library opens again in a couple months but at this point i'm tempted to just keep em since I've just been buying my books instead for the first time in my life instead of using the library and i'm liking my growing collection.The library books are the illiad, the odyssey, the aeneid and mythology.I wanted to have this certain set of books anyways and at this point i dont wanna pay for it.Is this wrong of me ? Who else is gonna read these old books in my crappy bumfuck town in the middle of nowhere?they probably have multiple copies anyways.
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I've been in a similar situation once in third grade. At the end of the school year I brought back a book I had forgotten home months before. The teacher didn't remember I had it either, yet instead of being happy she'd gotten her book back she ruthlessly tore me apart in front of the class. Since that day I've never tried to be proactive again. If I'm on time it's fine but if it's late and no one reminds me it's on them.
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I still have a copy of This Spake Zarathustra from a decade ago. They sent me to collections for it and it dinged my credit. I refused to pay. I refuse to return. I will not subject the people of my town to Nietzsche.
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>>24945852
As a librarian, keep them, no one cares. You're the only one with negative consequences from this, because when a Core Collection book is missing for more than a month or two, we buy it almost immediately. That said, you're screwing your future self by tossing away access to free books at your library. If you return them the fines are usually greatly reduced, usually to a maximum of $5 per item instead of list price + processing fee. I don't know why you would deny yourself access to library books though, if you're a reader. Even if you are retarded and prefer ebooks, those are offered for free at a majority of libraries as well with convenient sync features between devices.
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>>24946619
Not OP, but my city's libraries abolished late fees long ago
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>>24946775
There's a library system nearby that got rid of late fees and everyone comes to ours instead because:
>new book comes out
>buy two copies
>both get checked out
>both patrons take a month or two or three
>get charged for the book if you don't bring it back
>but charge fully waived if item is returned
>people keep the books for however long it takes them to read it at whatever pace they want even if there is a wait list of 50+ people
People actually pay the non-resident fee for our library system (which is not cheap) so they actually get books in a reasonable time-frame, and most of them directly blame them needing to come to us and pay yearly on their system's change to fine free. One of the librarians is pushing to turn us fine free because she's constantly whining about imaginary low income families who can't afford fees and we're being racist by blocking those families access. Our director thankfully is standing pretty firm and asks for evidence, of which she has none, but I feel like it's only a matter of time because the world is creeping endlessly towards zero individual responsibility and people like her always get their way, usually by being insidious.

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Is this actually poorly written, or is that just the thing where they try to bash him any way they can (small dick, missing testicle, secretly gay, etc.)
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>>24942860
Its poorly written in the sense that its not written. Its ranted to the typographist while Hitler was walking back and fourth in his cell while gesticulating furiously
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>>24942860
>small dick, missing testicle, secretly gay
this is basically just how women argue with men
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thoughts on the ford translation compared to other translations?
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>>24945490
the ferrari translation is a faster read
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Think of it less like a book and more like a podcast with one guy. Hitler didnt "write" it and simply orated it to someone else who copied it down

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I'm interested in a reading group focused on art books. Most you can get through your library if you can't afford them, or as PDF's from Anna'a Archive.

To start with I'd like to go with Umberto Eco's On Beauty, and then On Ugliness, but I open to alternative suggestions for our starting book.

The reading for the week will be posted Sunday if there are enough takers

If you want, although it's not necessary for participation, there will be linked to threads and so forth on the Criterion Club server under the visual-arts channel

https://discord.gg/XhFGx57VKm
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>>24946510
>His books are much richer in illustrations
I doubt. Those university level textbooks are pretty colourful nowadays.
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>>24946514
Do have any in particular you would participate for?
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>>24946545
Nah. I read Gardner's Art Through the Ages a decade ago and now I'm reading Janson's History of Art (the second edition in Norwegian for language practice) at my own pace.
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From On Beauty
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I would join probably, although I have never read any Eco, because I already think him to be a turbo midwit.

I also want to throw in Roger Scruton as a suggestion

Why did humanity suddenly discover a sense of humor in the 1600s?

Don Q, Sammy Ps diary, confusiones de la confusiones... all have a LOL witty passage or four in there. Prior to this, just about nothing.

Where did this come from all across yurop? When the modern offices bros humor is a collection of Will Ferrell movie references, you have to think there is some comic progenitor or Q source in the 1550s that taught them how to make a witty joke.
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>>24946207
Christianity caused us to lose our sense of humor. The pagans knew how to be goofy.
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>>24946573
Okay, I’ve cited specific examples, what’s a work from before the 1600s with humor that doesn’t boil down to a pun mister literate?
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>>24946720
No wonder abrahamic bvlls crushed this shit. Now it seems Irony and white self hate is a thing especially in Europe and needs to be crushed by Islam
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>>24946720
Maybe this thing was funnier on stage cause ...
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>>24946770
NTA, but Canterbury tales has plenty of comedic bits.

The dregs of society pool together like the dirty puddles they tromp. Dublin is their city. Dubh Linn. Black Pool. The name evokes images of heroin rolling on foil. The Spire watches high over O'Connell Street, a lantern above the oily slick roads, taxis and buses rolling through them, like a needle penetrating the veiny patchwork streets.

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Is this a good book to start studying informal logic? What exactly should I expect?
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>>24946784
https://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Authors/Ockham/Summa_Logicae/Book_I
https://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Authors/Ockham/Summa_Logicae/Book_III-4
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>>24946799

>Give me an x-ray of a kangaroo with three legs.

>Yesterday I saw an eagle looking out of my bedroom window.

>Let's eat, grandma.

https://youtu.be/-OuEZSDus5g
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>>24946807
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/516200433/#516205882
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https://archive.ph/ZR5g0


>This process of analyses and conceptual definition and reconfiguration has been going on for centuries, with each generation building on the work done by the generations that had come before it. It is based on sound and logical principles or as my rabbi friend has it “We study rational principles. It is the logic that is godly. No argument is accepted without absolute proof. When the conclusion is reached, the logic is compelling, unassailable and demanding. The principles are absolute.” This is in fact not too dissimilar from what theoretical physicists do, when they conceptualize particles and processes in order to explain the underlying workings of the universe based on observation. The difference, of course, is what observations are being analyzed and studied: While theoretical physicists may be using the data gleaned from experiments in the Large Hadron Collider, yeshiva students are observing the Talmud, which they believe is a message from the creator of the universe.

https://cross-currents.com/2018/11/23/what-do-they-study-at-yeshivas/
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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/503426619

ToT UOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
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Victor was a pussy for not inserting a hot lesbian sex scene with Eponine and Cosette.
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>>24945314
Why the fuck did you think it was? Fantine? Eponine?
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>>24945423
ever watch one of those nature shows where they have bugs cage fighting each other to the death?
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>>24944962
Hugo really didn't do her justice. She's basically not even a character anymore after the convent timeskip. If Dumas wrote Les Mis, we would've had 600 pages of comfy kid Cosette and JVJ adventures
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>>24946003
19th century Pragmata.
Hugo didn't want to write her anymore because he had a thing for poor and destitute women. It's part of why he describes Fantine and Eponine a lot. It's genuinely his fetish.

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"Hemingwrite" edition

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>>24946754
Expand on that, what do you mean? I am not lacking any conviction, I am lacking a relevant setting that detaches the universal theme from its unsuitable live setting.
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>>24940938
Isn't that a rookie mistake?
Better try to leave editing for later.
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>>24946729
why does the setting need to be as universal as the theme?
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>>24946813
You're right, and I know I need to stop doing it, but I'd ask this again: >>24945054
>do you do absolutely zero editing? Like... not even any changes to the sentence you just wrote? Do you just push on through?
Or is there some healthy middle level?
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>>24946761
>I could not find a great protagonist to fit to it.
what do you mean you can't "find". You have to make
>And I had no complete idea
yeah you have to make it
What I mean by conviction is that you need to have enough belief in that idea to force what you want into existence. Your vocabulary makes me think that these ideas are something that should just be there for you to pick like a berry you find in the forest. Maybe sometimes that's true but you can also cultivate berries yourself; to keep the analogy going.
Maybe your idea was kinda too weird or bad, in which case cutting your losses is a good idea. I don't know if that was the case. I don't see why you wouldn't go through this cycle again as soon as the answers don't seem obvious to you.

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Have anyone else read Sex, France & Arab men here?
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>>24946111
Sounds horribly uninteresting
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>>24946116
For you
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>>24946102
>>24946111
But Algerians aren't Arab
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>>24946150
They are but they're also mixed with negros
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>>24946102
That title sounds like your personal fantasy

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>completely dismantles leftism in your path
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>>24946071
SAAAAR
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>>24944150
>From psychotic-sexual control freak aristocratic
>and state-authoritarian socialist
>to corporatist ethnostatist
>and another state-authoritarian socialist

There are no leftists in this book, OP.
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>>24946755
meant to say "psycho-sexual control freak aristocrat" and "ethnostatist", but you get the gist.
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>>24946541
Ok big man, Im sticking to the slop they serve as takeout, you keep sticking to the slop they serve on pornhub
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>>24946828
Whats that supposed to mean, ranjesh?

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>age
>location
>current read
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623
Romania
Bradshaw's Guide
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>20's
>Scandinavia
>World as Will and Representation Vol 2 + Tolstoy Collected Shorter Fiction Vol 1
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>>24931414
>23
>Greece
>Le pavillion d'or by Yukio MishimA
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>73
>Little Saint James
>Lolita
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In a just world we got 15 years of spurdo instead of pepe and wojak

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prev: >>24935706
Erich Heckel edition
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>>24946543
The US Army is always hiring, son!
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>>24946546
I'm too old for the army.
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>>24946248
You're comparing the dregs from one sphere with the cultivated on the other.
They could do the same. In fact they do.
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Obsessing over how to organize my notes. They are all over the place, in notebooks, sheets, txt files. Thought about just making a vimwiki folder and transcribing everything there, but I don't know if it's worth the effort.
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>>24941253
Wouldn't it be funny if there was a comedy-drama on HBO about self absorbed people called the "The N Word"?

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I’m a Kafka
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>>24942589
Honestly I can see why Kafka never wanted any of his work published. I thought it was edgy and cool when I was kid but now I can hardly stand his woe-is-me pansy ass crying interspersed with his weirdo gooner fantasies of fucking some poor servingwoman or whatever.
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>>24942589
me too
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I’m a Georg Trakl

>The murderer smiles palely in wine,
Death's horror grips the sick.
Excoriated and naked, the nun prays
Before the Savior's agony on the cross.

>The mother sings quietly in sleep.
Peacefully the child looks into the night
With eyes that are completely truthful.
In the whorehouse laughter rings.

>By candlelight down in the cellar hole
The dead one paints with white hand
A grinning silence on the wall.

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>>24942589
Why did these two authors in particular attract so many pseuds and retards?
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>>24942791
this is the kind of shitpositng that keeps me from leaving this board

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Recommendations for literature on death?
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Thanks for the recs.
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Partir, c'est mourir un peu moins [To Leave is to Die a Little] by Jacques Sternberg (1958). I can't find any english translation. Try using you favorite translation service:
https://ciudadseva.com/texto/partir-es-morir-un-poco/
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I have a lot of Medieval recs on the subject but I don't think you are going to read them so, never mind!
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>>24943968
No, it's about a resurrection of a supposed god, you fucking moron.
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El Llano en Llamas - Juan Rulfo


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