What even is Young Adult fiction?If you’ve got a young guy doing wild acrobatics, slicing through the air with a sword, and launching an energy wave while he's at it, does that make it Young Adult?And what exactly counts as adult fiction? Is it just the "boring" stuff, even if it’s written with beautiful prose and explores deep, complex themes that resonate with both young (aged 13 to 18 yo) and older (19 to 50s) readers?Can adult fiction be fun or flashy? Can it be fantasy? Is “adult fantasy” even a thing?Also… what are the best Young Adult fantasy series out there?
>>24716924a long time ago there used to be this ever so weird fucking concept. The child is too young to see or do thing X. Young Adult fantasy means that just about any parent would read it or thumb through it, and not complain it was inappropriate for a 10-14year old. No explicit sexual stuff. No weird stuff. This is pretty self explanatory, anon. You're just posting to post.
>>24716935Not really. A lot of anons here throw around “YA” as a derogatory label, as if it automatically means the writing or story is inferior. But why should that be the case? Just because a book doesn’t include explicit sex or graphic violence, does that really make it lesser? Does the presence of gore or erotic content somehow elevate a book’s literary worth?If YA fiction simply means stories that a parent wouldn’t object to their 10-14 year old reading, then that doesn’t inherently make it shallow or simplistic. With a skilled enough writer, a YA book can be just as complex and memorable as any so-called “literary classic.”So why dismiss a book just because it’s YA? Sex and violence aren't prerequisites for great storytelling.Also, that post wasn’t just rambling, it ended with a genuine question, asking for recommendations on quality Young Adult fantasy series.
>>24717032/lit/ pseuds look down on anything not featured on a top 100 books of all time list. It's not about the book, it's not about the genre, it's not about the content and it's not about the writing. Almost everyone on this board is most interested in looking intelligent and sophisticated, and all their efforts go into reading books that they think will make them look intelligent and sophisticated.
Any dreams you guys had that was /litty/ themed? Here’s my that I had last night > Had a dream about cormac McCarthy. I was watching a movie adaptation of his nonexistent novel, it was filmed like an old black and white 50’s film. Something about a fedora wearing vagabond in a city. the movie ends with a closing narration from the actor Fredric march. The camera panned down, he was on a sound stage of a alleyway caked with foamite snow. The video quality was a fuzzing vhs tape. I was then in front of Cormac McCarthy and some person next to him. Cormac was sitting behind this wooden table while the person was standing next to him. We were in this cabin, behind them I could see shelves with glass doors and felt chairs circling around a tv; the latter was in the corner of my eye, and outside looked to be noon. Cormac spoked to me about his novel and the movie adaptation I just watched. He might have gave me some life advice as well. In his hands was a leather notebook. He placed it down on the table and cracked it open while telling me about his editor’s thoughts on both works. He then looked down at the notebook and read aloud his editor’s exact words about the matter. Then I woke up
>>24713814Things are not synesthetic, everything is just a very strong impression but not impressionistic, I just get the impression, the effect. The best way I have been able to come up with describing it is i you were to zoom in on a painting to the point you can see nothing but brush strokes and color, the painting would be my life and the brush strokes and color would the dreams but it is not just the visual information I am zooming in on, it is the auditory and emotion of it as well, they are all magnified for me in my dreams, intensified to the point that is all there is. But it is very difficult to explain, how do you zoom in on an emotion like contentment so you only feel one aspect of it? What is an aspect of contentment in that sense? Maybe the literal present, the feeling at a single moment too small to perceive extended for hours so it consumes you? That over simplifies since the emotion of the dream is far more dynamic and varied than that. I have never figured out a way to explain any of this.Life like dreams have become fairly regular for me but also have a tendency to be almost hilariously banal, things like going grocery shopping and running into someone I know, the contrast from my normal dreams tends to make even the most banal dreams quite memorable. Perhaps the abstract dreams would be best described in terms of a normal dream, they are like the exact moment a dream becomes so intense that it wakes you up, the abstract dreams are like that exact moment stretched out for hours but I still experience the entire dream, often over and over and over each time doing things slightly different.
>>24712910The only /lit/ centred dream of late barely qualifies, but I had a dream that was loosely "about" Madame Bovary, as in it featured that name/title although don't recall ever having heard of the book before said dream. Although it is obviously a famous piece of literature. The dream was as follows: I was attending school in an old manor house in the countryside, my peers were various friends from throughout my life; some I have known since childhood, some from college, some from university. We were moving from a computer room to a lesson in another part of the building, when I found myself lost and alone. I had the sensation of at once being frozen to the spot, unable to move. An ethereal white cloud or smoke-like substance began to fill the room and I was filled with terror. Out of the ether a woman made of the cloud itself took the form of an early 19th century woman, dressed in a large dress with corsett and hoop skirt/crinoline. My fear was compounded upon seeing her and for some reason I was only able to shout the words "Madame Bovary!" In some kind of subconscious realisation of the identity of the spirit and seemingly the knowledge that this spirit and her name signalled something truly awful and terrifying. When I awoke I found myself taken by the vividity and odd features of the dream, so rushed to my PC (my phone was dead) and googled Madame Bovary to see if there was a woman with such a name that died in my area at some point in history. Instead I found only the book by Gustave Flaubert.
>>24712910What causes the huge enjoyment gap between telling about your dreams and listening to others talking about theirs? Is it the inherent unrelatability or what is it? No other subject seems to make people so covertly annoyed, and yet at the same time think that their example is exempt from the annoyance. I can vividly remember some youthful nights, the taste of beer in my mouth and an overwhelming smell of "fine I'll listen to your shitty dreams but only because i can't wait to tell you mine" in the air. It's really weird and uncomfortable and i try to derail it asap or at least after I've told my own wacky dream.You could tell the greatest story ending with "anyhow that's the dream i had last night" and suddenly people wouldn't give two shits about it.Am I onto something or just projecting?
>>24716412Oh you're 100% on to something. I have always thought this, and often encountered it; I think I have a slightly higher tolerance for others dreams and am often genuinely interested but part of me is still secretly waiting for my turn because mine is infinitely more crazy and unique and maybe even could only be the result of a deeply profound and profoundly deep mind at work. Me and my Mum would joke about this when I was young, not caring about the others dream but then launching into a passionate telling of their own dream when the other had finished.
>>24712982Hey, same here. I have these dreams roughly every three months. No sensory stimuli, no scenes to see, no incoherent narrative to follow, no touch. I would describe it as total darkness but even that is missin, just emptiness. And then theres one concept that fills up everything. Most often it is an emotion but it also has been a movement or a transition. And it is INTENSE. Unbearably intense, so much that I suspect that I turned off all sensory input on porpuse. Experiencing any miniscule amount more would... Actually I don't know what would happen. All I know is that I will never go that far
So, how do you become the Knight of Faith?
>>24716930First step would be reading Kierkegaard
>>24716930Believe that you believe even if you feel like you dont and then stop doubting that you believe until you believe sincerely
>>24716930Iirc you have to become a knight of infinite resignation first so read fear and trembling
What periodicals do you subscribe to? I use to subscribe to Tin House, back when that was still a thing. I miss looking forward to a new, physical thing I could read.
>>24716252No, I said good ones.
>>24716818Fuck off chud
>Not a single good magazine recommended Just accept it already, newspaper and magazines are dead and books will follow soon since we're heading towards a post-literate society
>>24717030>doesn't recommend a magazine
>>24715238At the moment, only First Things.
I truly believe esoteric Kantianism is a superior name for philosophical movement now generally known as German Idealism.
>>24715029Give me a QRD
>>24715263>>24715791>The raw information that exists in the noumenal world (things-in-themselves) remains fundamentally the same when it is processed and experienced as phenomena (our perception of things). The mind, shaped by its cognitive categories (such as time, space, and causality), organizes and structures this raw information into a form that is accessible to our experience, but it does not alter the essence of the information itself. While the mind shapes how we experience the world, it does not change the fundamental nature of the information underlying that experience. Therefore, the information in both the noumenal and phenomenal realms is essentially identical, though it is structured differently depending on the cognitive framework through which we perceive it.>This means that the noumenal world, which represents the raw, unprocessed data of existence independent of human perception, and the phenomenal world, which is how this raw information is structured and organized by the mind through categories like time, space, and causality, share the same fundamental informational essence. The mind acts as a "structural filter", organizing and shaping the information but not fundamentally altering its core content.
>>24716939Schopenhauer was such a fucking retard, thanks for confirming what me and others have been saying for months.
>>24716962Elaborate on why it's retarded instead of emoting that it's retarded. I don't care about if you think something is retarded if you can't explain why you think it is.
>>24717016I have multiple times. His world-view is rigidly dichotomous but dichotomous philosophies are incoherent. He's also just retarded in general, like in the quote here: >>24716939 he has actually destroyed the distinction between phenomena and noumena entirely, not by sublating it, but by making everything material. If the contribution of subjectivity to objectivity is simply applying a certain form to the given, then you're a dogmatist, no different than any average redditor, your world depends on what is given, and this is indeed where Schopenhauer ends up. He grasps one side after another in every antinomy (no freedom! the thing-in-itself can never be known! Etc.) And Kant's theory would be pointless if it amounted to the assertion that our brains alter reality, because this would not solve Hume's skeptical objections to natural science. Schopenhauer does not understand what idealism is because he is stuck in what Schelling would call the intellect, i.e. he only sees and then rigidifies contradictions rather than overcoming them.
The most tragic figure of the 21st century
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>>24714423Have any of you actually read his book?His whole thesis is:>Hegel has perfectly described history and we are still stuck at his stage of descriptionAnd>Nietzsche identified the pathetic Last Man who languishes in this era.Thats it. A couple graphs, historical anecdotes, and name dropping, but thats it.The essay and book has been bastardized to fit the public discourse more closely, but none of it really goes against what this wanna be Hegel fanboy wrote.
>>24716663>the Person of Jesus Christ iKind of the whole problem with this isn't it? kek
>>24714573>>24714648>>24714738>>24714895>>24714977Please check out https://byzantinus.net/ some time, it's a textboard centered around the humanities and you two have an spirit that would very fitting for the site's purpose. It's invite-only but you can get an access code through a faucet right now.
>>24716741>It's invite-only but you can get an access code through a faucet right now.who do you do this and who owns/runs it?
Past a certain age, a man without a /shelf/ can be a bad thing
>>24716990This isn't your shelf, right? Please tell me this isn't your shelf.
>>24716996It is. Do you think it matches the rest of my room?
>>24716990>>24717006> Past a certain ageYou clearly won’t have to worry about being ‘past a certain age’ for a long time. If anything, I’d question if you’re even old enough to be posting on this site. But I know one thing for certain: you are one ugly little faggot.
>>24717026Might be taller than you though
(Apologies in advance for essentially blogposting.) I have never really read any poetry until now (other than Epic poetry all of which I have read in translation.) I was previously only aware of a handful of names : Wordsworth, Keats, Yeats, from popular culture and have encountered the odd poem throughout my life, but know next to nothing about the tradition or history of poetry. I found myself unsure of where to start, and couldn't find many charts and haven't seen any posted here in a while. I was browsing in Waterstones yesterday and not wanting to buy any more literature as I am currently reading several books and my stack grows at an alarming rate. I thus decided to peruse the poetry section, and picked out picrel and bought it. I read the introduction last night which I found incredibly informative on the "Romantics." I feel enlightened somewhat on the history of the tradition, the term and the specifics of the stylings and content of such poets. I have now read a few poems from this collection and am enjoying them; varied as they are in subject. If anyone cares to spoonfeed me some recommendations or charts, or inform me on the other types of poetry I would appreciate it. What poetry does /lit/ like? Who or what do you enjoy reading the most when it comes to poetry?
>>24716916When I heard the learn’d astronomer,When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me,When I was shown the charts and diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them,When I sitting heard the astronomer where he lectured with much applause in the lecture-room,How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick,Till rising and gliding out I wander’d off by myself,In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,Look’d up in perfect silence at the stars.
>>24716966The thought of what America would be likeIf the Classics had a wide circulation Troubles my sleep,The thought of what America,The thought of what America,The thought of what America would be likeIf the Classics had a wide circulation Troubles my sleep.Nunc dimittis, now lettest thou thy servant,Now lettest thou thy servant Depart in peace.The thought of what America,The thought of what America,The thought of what America would be likeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24716976I can't find it but can you post the first bit from the Cantos? The one that's the "translation" of Anglo-Saxon verse, or if not the translation then the one where he's doing Anglo-Saxon verse techniques in modern English. Might be my favorite Pound
>>24716982it's called Cantico del Soleas for the Anglo-Saxon translation of Homer And then went down to the ship,Set keel to breakers, forth on the godly sea, andWe set up mast and sail on that swart ship,Bore sheep aboard her, and our bodies alsoHeavy with weeping, and winds from sternwardBore us out onward with bellying canvas,Circe’s this craft, the trim-coifed goddess.Then sat we amidships, wind jamming the tiller,Thus with stretched sail, we went over sea till day’s end.Sun to his slumber, shadows o’er all the ocean,Came we then to the bounds of deepest water,Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24716693I felt the empty cabin wasn’t abandoned.The axe, for one thing, blood still moiston the blade. Then, warm coffee on the stove.God, it blew outside. The owner, I said,won’t last long in this storm. By midnightI was singing. I knew the cabin was mine.Fifty years later, he still hadn’t returned.Moss covered the roof by then. I calledthe deer by name. Alice, I liked best.Winslow, next. Reporters came to write me up.They called me ‘animal man’ in the featurein the photogravure. The story said I leda wonderful life out here. I said cloudsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
That which Ought, Is.
>>24715026not Garfield. Garfield is smart
>>24715012>That which Ought, Is.It's not always true, but you when you argue otherwise you must do it right.For example, it's hard to talk about how something is bad for society when society gravitated towards it en-mass when having more options.
>>24715012I ought to give you a good kick in the pants. Is it so? Then I have….disproveded you….hehehe
>>24715012Nothing is ought, it just is.
>>24715620hmmm... intriguing
>"Schopenhauer killed Fichte. I am just pissing on his grave."- Nick Land
>>24716545>>24716551Isnt that weird for a marxist to admit he is too dumb for Hegel?
>>24716608do you really think you understand hegel better than him?
>>24715947>>24716025Schopenhauer is an embarrassment to Philosophy in general and German Idealism in particular. Sounds exactly like a cocksucking Anglo complaining that he cannot understand Hegel et al. GRAMMATICALLY, mind you. No wonder he was into Buddhism.
>>24716565Oh yeah, before I forget my own hypothesis I'll go ahead toss it out there for you lot. It's highly debatable whether Fichte can refute Schope pre-sequence. Iirc matter to schope is basically a process, but he has options to use it as an actionable sequence. Schope also completely fragged his highest order thought, he does have the option to claim all distinctions are just made up, he also has the option to retreat from idealism and go with just his body. This usually amounts to a situation where Fichte can but only because Schope refuted himself. So the Schope in question has to know things in order to make Schopenhauer useful at a mathematical or scientific theory level, but this also poses a question of whether Schope's influence was the driving factor or just a coincidence. Fichte's other options boil down to agency, outlook and ethics, so it depends once more on the Schope in question and how good Fichte is at finding a potential issue for the synthesis. An idiot Schope is almost always a waste.Let the competition continue. This is a purely skill debate you fags. I don't see a definitive outcome on this but it will confirm everyone's biases nonetheless.
>>24716565I dont really understand all this, especially the scientific and mathematical part, but it all sounds interesting.Why does Hegel get a bunch of dicksuckers obsessed with understanding him and going beyond his system, but Schopenhauer seemingly has this system open for experimental thought and nobody has bothered to try and deal with it?>complications Nietzsche found himself in going against DescartesAlso I find this incredibly interesting, because Nietzsche tards always come up with the most convenient copes to rationalize holes in his philosophy and would swear to you up and down that it is impossible Nietzsche to make value judgements because he criticized value judgements, so even when he makes clear value judgements all the time, hes not actually ever making value judgements when he calls a philosophy "sickly" and actually his philosophy is perfect all the time.
I read the first 60 pages of A Brave New World. It's creepy and disjointed.
>>24716698like all classics, it's difficult to digest if you're not used to it. I read the fountainhead and this back to back, I ended up loathing the literature from that time. But I definitely prefer this before any shit from Ayn Rand
>>24716703I haven't read many classics. I assumed the disjointed dialogue was meant to make the reader feel confused since these characters live in a fucked up world. I'm enjoying it. Feels like a fever dream.
>>24716698>t. Beta-minus
>>24716967Based on the descriptions of Gammas, Deltas, and Epsilon-minuses, Betas do not have that difficult of a life. They are still able to have frivolous activities and be with Alphas.
>>24716703>meme rand
>heidegger thought all this was shit because it doesn't "reveal the stone"
renaissance art is just eye candy; there is no further value to it.now medieval art... vgh...
>>24716902Pharaoh (1999) anon taught me that Husserl is irrelevant
>>24716949>renaissance art fulfills the function of artWow dude remarkable, please elaborate how art that more strictly adheres to christian moral/cosmological dogma is superior to beautiful art
>>24716959read Coomaraswamy
>>24716959Even in beautiful art, the beauty is just one moment in the interaction between consciousness and matter that makes art the most important thing in the world.
The gaping hole in his philosophy is the utter lack of engagement with the "Apollonian". Following his line of thought to best disclose Alethiea we may as well go back to mud huffing troglodytes worshiping the great juju up the mountain otherwise we're "enframing" with "metaphysics". I mean even his taste in art is embarrassingly gushy... He really seems to think that simple bongo rhymes are superior to Wagner because they are more "immediate to being". He seems one step away from just becoming an outright primitivist.
Wagner is, without a doubt, over-intellectualised slop. Thus isn't because his work makes use of theory and sophistication, but because it *only* makes use of theory and sophistication. Well-execution expression of nothing in particular. All craft, no art. In this respect, Ongo Bongo from the depths of the Congo certainly is a greater artist.
>Non German doesn't understand HeideggerMany such cases. OP, youre just another casualty.
>>24716722I recommend you make more of an effort to get into the spirit of the people you're reading.
Write your suicide note with your best prose.
The clamor of those who want my head will finally subside. The world and its oysters have told me what I did not want to understand. A place of longing will never await nor will a place of damnation.With all the voices of my past, I announce to you, that my end has come. Forgive me or despise me, I shall let you know that I have always loved you. Your birth was painful and now my end with be even more so. A mother should never lose her son, but her son has lost his mind and cannot continue its masquerading. Her son strives to be placed alongside emotionless statues in a windy and peaceful plain filled with green calm. You were my only light in a world filled with catastrophe and unrelenting hatred of the senses. Your light will still shine, I promise.I love you.
Somebody once told me: the world is gonna roll me. I ain′t the sharpest tool in the shed...Well, the years start comin' and they don′t stop comin', I need to get myself away from this place".You'll never shine if you don′t glow
>>24707999Reads like a monologue from Rick and Morty
>>24707955>Write your suicide note with your best prose.nice try satan
I hereby cease my monotonous toiling. Unemployed though I was, the work required to support the mundane weight of this plane has finally succeeded in collapsing my spirit. The onus is on me, and me alone. Others can exist without such wallowing, but I am not others.Au revoir.
maekar I targaryen, first of his name editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>24681455
>>24716562cope, Daeron is trueborn.
>>24715115The “fat pink mast” line is so infamous that I’d forgotten that this scene also involves breastfeeding (from a young mother, no less).You can really tell that the series was way less famous, if George was this brazen about showing his fetishes.
>>24704184could King Slanding have won the game of thorns if he survived the bear attack?
>>24716568Yeah, bro, and so is Joffrey.
>>24708511This still means they're different. And mindlessly equating the show and the books is still retarded.>>24708573People won't ever get it. They're either showfags or got mind broken by the fatman being lazy that they started shitting all over his work out of spite.>>24709164I couldn't stop giggling throughout. I need more.
