What does /lit/ think of Hawthorne? Most Americans have either never heard of him or hate him because they were assigned 'The Scarlet Letter' in high school and Amerikkka is an insane asylum, and its public schools are like a suicide ward. But Poe said that "we look upon [Hawthorne] as one of the few men of indisputable genius to whom our country has as yet given birth." And America's second greatest writer, Melville, was deeply respectful of Hawthorne. What does /lit/ say? Is he a great writer, or just great for an American?
>>24954121I’ve only read The Scarlet Letter and a couple of his short stories. To me he is like Milton in that his religion prevented him from writing really interesting plots and characters. I mean his stories feel like allegories or moral fables rather than real events, and his characters feel like symbols rather than real people. I can’t imagine a Hamlet or an Iago showing up in Hawthorne because he’s just too prudish and too Christian. So you wind up with these cartoonish villains and one-note heroes. I really enjoyed his prose and imagery though.
Fantastic short story writer. His Tales are great, read them all.
Ἁλικαρνασσόθεν edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>24877858>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>24951618esto maiores autem decrevere patribus ut detur vitae necisque potestas duodecim tabularum more, exempli gratia cui puer sit insignis ad deformitatem cito ut necetur ius est
>tfw listen to Attic Greek after listening to modern Greek for months
are these correct?A) Pueri, legite libros poetarum bonorum!B) Serva pirum magnam horti (aqua) rigat.C) Pulchrae plantae agri agricolas laetos delectant.did it for an exercise
>>24950303I bought a physical copy on Amazon. You're not missing out on much. The story and characters are not very interesting. The print is hard to read (gray main text with light gray margin text). If you're looking for a beginner-level reader, I don't think it's especially well suited for that purpose, and it's not even macronized. I enjoyed it more as a novelty than anything.
>>24953984Looks probably good enough to me. I'm assuming the prompts were something like this.A) Boys, read the books of the good poets!B) The slavewoman waters the great pear tree of the garden.C) The beautiful pants of the field delight the happy farmers.
>>24947268Indeed. But I use mine for reading essays and poetry, and it’s wonderful for that. Still would never read anything substantial on it.
>>24952544Lots of devices dabble in things other than just reading. Lots of devices let you connect Bluetooth keyboards for typing, and headphones for any number of apps. Not just audiobooks, but Spotify/Youtube.You're probably not aware, but having Google Play is a common app on ereaders, because lots are using Android.Lots of retards just leave their Bluethood/Wifi running constantly on all devices, so they drain their batteries for no reason.
>>24952546The internal storage is 8gb, formatted and with software like 5.5 gb. That can't hold shit.
>>24953285>download a copy of lolita>its actually 500GBs of candydoll modelsbookfags will never understand
>>24947268I would but I can't decide what model size I want since I read books of various sizes and a lot of academic booksI'd get one of the l;arger ones like a 10 or 11 inch ones but that seems obvious as fuck I'm not actually doing my job and while a 7" one can pass as a phone and not be cared about, it's too small imo for most of the larger books
How do you learn to philosophize? I read philosophy books but i never learn to philosophize. I never learn to use those fancy words like epistomoleogoogy; i only learn what they kinda mean but i never have a sure feeling of it and have to look it up all the time. Is philosophy only for high iq people? I feel utterly lost so much so i don't even bother to talk about it with other people.
>>24953658Pretentious rubbish. Lucretius says philosophy is like sitting on top of a tower watching a shipwreck. It’s escapism for high iqs and a way to stand above/dissociate from the pains of life, nothing more.
>>24953644Have you read A Mathematician's Apology by G. H. Hardy? Try, at least
>>24946724>Math is a sterile tool, an incredibly useful one, but still a mere tool, like a hammer or a sawAll disciplines are "mere tools," including abstract philosophy. The reason for praising math is that it is simultaneously highly useful and incredibly abstract, whereas most philosophy tends to be merely abstract.>human calculatorMental math is more theoretically rigorous than you'd think. You need to have a decent understanding of number theory, especially prime factorization, in order to do it.
>>24946020Skip philosophy. Pray to Jesus and ponder him and you will know who wisdom is. Wisdom -- The Person.
>>24946020Philosophy is basically 'how the fuck should I live life/do X morally'There's no specific science or logic behind it. It's basically an opinion you base on actual facts.IE, most people would agree with pedagogy, it's not 'good' to implement the concept of making a two year recite the alphabet until it collapses from exhaustion but you sure can fucking make a philosophical argument for it and it'll be accepted. It'll be rippped apart but it's a philosophical argument.If you mean 'modern' or 'academic' philosophy, just go to any basic black bitch university and suck off the teachers there claiming that everyone who doesn't align with their modern day globalization viewpoints are retards and start publishing papers.
This book changed my life for the better
>>24952446So they're retarded?
>>24953481Your mom is too
Alright I’ll check it out, I love my wife and she deserves some pleasure too->an essential guidebook to oral sexOh…
>>24946749>pleasing womenlol ngmi
It really only requires three things:1. Small hints of sexual interes over a period of time where you gradually increase physical contact2. Rhythmic stimulation of the clit that doesn't falter 3. Not seeming at all bored or tired even if you might be towards the end
>another mid whore catapulted into fame and fortune for existing That's it. This has gone too far, the woman problem HAS to be addressed now. Simping is an epidemic that is destroying society and it's only going to get worse.
Jannies don't give a fuck huh
>>24954020We dont have jannies
>>24953753cutecutecutecuuuuuuuuute
>>24953989the greatest minds in history seethed about women
>>24948013>>24952302i bet this is the foid from a council estate who kept spamming that other thread
How do I master the English language as an ESL? Is there a certified /lit/ guide?
Simply read more books. A wide variety of books will improve your vocabulary and grasp of grammar. Start with nonfiction, topics that you are familiar with so you won't be wrestling with the content, just the grammar and vocabulary. Then move to fiction. Contemporary fiction at first, will be easier, but then earlier works of modern literature from the 19th century, or earlier, to test your understanding of grammar. The further back you go with Modern English, the more the definitions of words start to change.Once you hit Early Modern English, the likes of Chaucer and Shakespeare, you'll be grappling with writings that often confuse even native English speakers. Which is why you'll be able to find annotated versions of their writings to help with things like unfamiliar grammar, vocabulary, and expressions and idioms particular to their time and place.Some of the most challenging works you can read, to test your understanding of grammar and vocabulary, are philosophical tracts. These will feature extremely long, convoluted sentences as well as specialist terminology and references to obscure works. If you're reading something written more than 60 years ago, the chances of the author dropping in untranslated Latin or Greek phrases increases greatly. This is a challenge to native English speakers though, not necessarily you, who might be more familiar with these languages.
>>24953135You make it seem as if the world of Arabian literature isn't as sterile as its deserts.Also, when you consider that Mahmud, Mahmed, and Mohammed are all different spellings of the same name, the numerical argument you propose doesn't mean much.
>>24953210yeah you're right. if it's not arab then it's english , the language with the most words. (that's the answer I always get mainly when I ask google)
>>24952977Parrot and nitwit.
>>24949521that other anon pooh poohed this, but I agree with Austen. her use of the English language is sublime and will definitely help. the only thing that kept me reading the generator of boredom that was Sense and Sensibility was the English.
So at the end of the day, who deserved the Hugo more? Dune no doubt had a much bigger impact, but is there an argument that the literary merit of 'This Immortal' is stronger than Dune?
They're practically different genres, so it's mostly apples to oranges. I like This Immortal more; it's more fun and more formally inventive. Zelazny is clearly the better writer. But in retrospect, Dune was more influential, and on the basis of scope of concept, I can understand why some people would prefer it.
Zelazny is a much better writer than Herbert. Dune was influential but that doesn't automatically make it good. Facebook is influential.
>>24952363>OK... but how about with these specific works?
>>24952178Dune deserved it more. Zelazny is a more interesting and experimental writer than Herbert moment to moment, but not a better writer overall. Dune's influence is obviously huge. That's no mark of quality -- Twilight has also had an immense impact on its genre -- but in this case, Dune is worth the hype.A lot of modern commentary wants to focus on Dune as a narrative piece with complex worldbuilding, which it really isn't. If you read the novel on its own terms, as a sort of heightened-reality melodrama, I think it's one of the best works of sci-fi and fantasy.The '93 tie is the real difficult choice. Doomsday Book, A Fire Upon the Deep, and Red Mars all would have won easily in almost any other year. Even with the tie, only two of the three got the award.
If you aren't religious is there any point in reading religious literature? Other than the bible
>>24953148Reading religious texts are vital for understanding a lot of art. Not just paintings/sculptures, but it's embedded in a lot of authors as well. Unless you mean something different by religious literature, like apologetics books. Then probably not, unless you're interested in debate. If you mean something like religious fiction, then you're probably not missing much, as it's made for the existing believers' tastes.When I learned the basics of Buddhism, then a lot of shit in Japanese media made way more sense. Same thing with Christianity in the west.>picrelThat's actually a really good book, and would help you greatly, if you're looking to understand the Gnostic Christian denominations.
>>24953216>his life is short, and even shorter for the atheistChristcucks don't even care about this life. They believe that it's dirty rags, and that they care about the eternal life.
>>24953218What about Gnosticism? Will it attract foids?
>>24953148Opposition research. One can derive active pleasure from reading stupid shit that one disagrees with, the better to reject it from the position of knowledge of having actually read it and understood it better than the others do.
>>24953148She should go and marry an old fat Baptist Freemason if she's going to be in to Gnosticism and all. See how you like it then.
Which books should I read to best understand the argentinian soul?
Anything by Roberto Arlt
>>24953472>more white personsargentina is barely white anymore if it ever was. get out of any train station in BA and you will be surrounded by brown latinos
>>24953891obviously. congrats on your world cup btw
>>24953891its still around 90 percent white if you take statistics into account iirc. Or 80 percent or some.
What books should I read in public to attract women?
>>24953260the new miranda july joint should do it
>>24953818Are you lost? We use motherfucker here all the time, newfag.
I read jane austin on the train, but with the dust jacket from this
>>24953260>shoe dogBro I’m like an entrepreneur I got dat dog in me frfr
>>24953426Usually I don't like Moslems doing fatwas and all of their evil, but that woman, even, knows she's asking for it.
It's that time of year again! Vote for which books you wish to see on this year's top 100 chart. You can vote for as many books as you want. If there are any books not on the list that you wish to vote for, request the author and title ITT and they will be added. Responses can be changed after submitting.Voting closes on the New Year, after which will be the tiebreaker poll. To prevent spamming, a Google account is required to vote, but will not be collected or stored.Vote here:https://forms.gle/LqHa5xS1q5CVikem6
Mmmh I really wonder what the top books are gonna be
>>24952619It's always the same list because nu-/lit/izens only read what's on the Top 100
>>24951578you should add:>Rulfo - El Llano en Llamas
>>24951578Almost wish you didn't include last year's results in the OP. I'd like to see if not having the list right there to reference affects the results at all.
Some options I would like to add:- Petersburg by Andrei Bely- I, Claudius and Claudius the God by Robert Graves- Julian by Gore Vidal
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
Wrote this one venting about some stressful stuff going on in my life.Can you guys recommend me poets who only write miserable poetry?
>>24952759You might like Philip Larkin
>>24950982O watersCutteth Earth,Divide,Make plenty Thine harvest - Multiply! -Tis no sin to dieNor fault to live;Harvest's bountyOf Life's joysMake complexionOf grander questionsLike wine,To sooth theComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Accidentally yoursI open up after a whileWhy notBut you ask questionsHmm – unsureOi oi, slow down I’m made of tiny bitsIf you press to hardI reset to LatinDamned if I knowI’m riffi-raffing don’t askAnywayPush yourself into an envelopeMore is comingI’ll give you the address later
>>24953261I like this
sansa editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>24922194
>>24950902alternative option
The WHOOOOOOORRRREEEEEEE is PREGNANT VISEEEERYYSSSSS
Sex with Visenya
>>24949705Aenys I whose ability to have sex and make kids caused Maegor seetheJaehaerys I who bested Gaegor and sired 13 children.
>>24953758How would you imagine it would be?
I am ignorant of the Eastern ways. What is the point to negating every point and entering complete dissolution from being? Why is annihilation the good if we can't even have a good? Or am I misunderstanding the Buddha.
>>24951875Neither have you if you think that's the goal.
>>24951034>dissolution from being?Because being Is just a conceptual framework, you have to go beyond that
>>24954003Because it requires initiation from a teacher. The teacher quite literally transmits the experience to the student, "raising" them, and once the student has a feel for it, they then go off on their own and figures out how to get there by themselves. They do this repeatedly till they reach nirvana.these lineages still exist, and are very alive. There's teachers in the west. Many. I've heard anecdotally that South America has many teachers. You can find them.Fundamentally though, buddhism starts with a requirement of high spiritual XP. A lot of the sutras are nonsensical to the average person, and for even seekers, it is a paradoxical mess.This is why its better to start off in a western path, which is incidentally suited more towards the western lifestyleafaik, franz bardon's path is the best available in the West, and many people start with bardon then switch to buddhism later on. i personally was online friends with a guy who moved to China to become a boddhisattva, having begun on Bardon's pathBut yeah, i totally get how you feel. If it's any solace, ive come to believe that because our age is one of decay and dissolution, there is potential for great growth and acceleration in a way that wasnt in previous ages. take full opportunity of it. I wish you well on your travels friend
>>24954018It's undeniable there are plenty of spiritual paths in the modern world. What is harder to gauge is the actual power of these spiritual paths, and how they compare to what was available to people many centuries ago. When I study the ancient cultures in this respect, it's like looking back on some ancient lost civilization that was infinitely more advanced than our own. We might still have some of their icons, their scriptures, and some of their tools, but we have minimal reckoning of the real context in which they were used, so the real meaning behind these pieces is forever lost to us. And I don't take the claims of "unbroken lineage" to be proof that the real meaning has been preserved. For analogy, you could say the Western higher education system of universities has an "unbroken lineage" of about 1000 years, but what universities have actually signified and meant in the cultures that have them has changed entirely throughout these years, and I feel the same happens with all human institutions and traditions, including the religious. And I feel nearly all religious institutions have fully decayed in this way.
>>24954018>>24954079 (Cont.) Also, I should give you specifics so that you know what I'm talking about.Up until the age of around 18, I used to have rare encounters with things from Asia which filled me with emotions deeply profound and mystical. Generally these came from architecture, but there was one instance where as a teenager I clicked on a random stream of a young Japanese man sitting on the floor of his room, and although he was doing nothing out of the ordinary, a light flashed on in my head and I felt I understood something very ancient and profound about the Asian perspective -- and not just the Asian perspective, but the lost Asian perspective, the perspective that is fading away and almost entirely lost in the present age. What perspective was it? I can't say. Perhaps on paper, some of the emotions that I felt may be linked back to "Taoism", and some to "Buddhism", but I think that is doing a total disservice to the actual emotions that I felt, because "Taoism" and "Buddhism" are for us dry and desiccated intellectual concepts to be written about in books, burdened by history, law, and so many preconceived notions, whereas whatever I felt was as fresh, immediate, and real as the air we breathe. It does not make sense to call what I felt an "-ism" or a creed or anything, in much the same way it would be absurd to call love or anger a belief. It was just something I felt, and I have no idea how to get into contact with it again.
