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It's time for the weekly stack accountability thread! Post last week's stack, this week's stack, and share your progress.

The regular stack thread is mostly just people showing off how much stuff they bought. This thread is about being accountable and actually reading.

I finished up the last 300 pages of Burton's Wanderings in West Africa. Andrew Robinson's Lost Languages, a book about deciphering lost writing systems, finally came in at the library so it moved to the top of my stack. 70 pages in it's fascinating stuff. I also read 60 pages of Antiques Magpie. It's pretty much just an assortment of factoids and anecdotes about antiques, kind of like what a Reader's Digest overview of antiques would be like. It's not particularly good, but it's decent to pick up when you only have a couple minutes.
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>>24734455
How was Wanderings? Am intrigued
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>>24740718
I liked it. It's mostly just Richard F Burton visiting a few places in colonial Africa and reporting on them and the people that live there. I like Burton's writing style and find colonialism interesting so I probably enjoyed it quite a bit more than the average person would.

Burton's best book that I've read, and probably his most interesting book to most people, is Personal Narrative of a Pilgrimage to Al-Madinah and Meccah, an account of when he pretended to be Muslim and went on Hajj.

If you're looking for more of a "hack it through the jungle" book about Africa, you might like Henry Morton Stanley's Through the Dark Continent. I read it a couple years ago and enjoyed it although I don't think he's as good of a writer as Burton.

If you buy a copy of these books, make sure to get one by an actual publisher (Dover Press issued good paperback editions of all the books mentioned above) and not a sucky OCR'd version by one of those publishers that just churns out print on demand crap.
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>>24740757
NTA but Someone told me to wishlist the H.M. Stanley earlier today
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>>24740757
Thanks for the detailed response. I have been interested in colonial Africa, especially ever since reading the Africa section in Journey to the End of the Night. I'm going to check that out out and Through the Dark Continent as Well
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>>24736386
Perhaps you should try speaking to it in Catalan.

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The more I read Kant, the more I realize he was on a wholenother level. Everything before was kid's play. It really separates the men from the bois.
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>>24741063
>Neoplatonism bagged on Empiricism so hard it was bullied out of existence.
How? Did neoplatonist travel to the future to talk to Locke?
I am so sick of 'trad' zoomers refusing all historicity and throwing around terms they clearly don't understand.
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>>24741670
Nta but ive always wondered why Neoplatonism is so popular in modern academic philosophy. Is it literally just resurgence of "ooooh myyyy modernity ooooooh my western worship ohhhhhhh my roots of democracy" and just associating that with the most relevant intelligent guy of that era
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>>24741705
it's literally not
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>>24741705
>Neoplatonism
>popular in modern academic philosophy

Its hardly even a player on the scene within ancient philosophy specifically
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A friend keeps urging me to read this. I know the premise. Is it actually going to be entertaining or interesting? Will it be thought-provoking? Or just a bunch of racist drivel?
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>>24738055
South Korea is an turbo neo liberal capitalist hole that treats their own citizens like absolute shit.
Israel is the size of a pea nut and has positive population growth. And the arab states are just oil companies. People don’t go to them to live there. Europe is neither, it’s a social democratic union based on sharing recourses, gradual growth, limited wealth disparity and stability, ambitious renewable energy projects, it’s just what you expect a countinent like that to do, letting people establish. You’re letting your racial resentment blind you and keep you from establishing a rational attitude towards geopolitics, probably because a black kid has bullied you when you were 8 years old or something. No one cares. Grow up. Russia and even automations are objectively much much more threatening existential threats for Europe.
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>>24734244
Was probably shocking and incredible 20 years ago, however it seems like I could look out my window and get the same experience as the book now.
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>if you take the book on its most literal level then it doesn't make sense LOL btfo
How do people genuinely live like this?
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>>24734859
You're a brown mutt, you couldn't possibly be expected to understand. I'm the issue of two different white cultures and even I know that I'm diluted and can't fit as well as the rest, I'm culturally dysgenic and rightly suffer for it. But you are lower than that; lower than dirt. You don't have the decency to admit it because the reality of it is so abhorrent to you -- that you are a mongrel.
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>>24734244
It's good at describing the massive size of the brown hominid biomass that is only prevented from migration to human territories, and what happens when that logistical barrier is removed

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What Redditors are saying about Honor Levy

>holy fuck I wish I never read this
>the worst people i know are excited about it
>it’s astounding how poorly she writes
>The one excerpt I saw is literally the worst thing I’ve ever read in my life
>You couldn't waterboard me into reading a full book of that, Jesus Christ

Is she our girl?
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>>24736111
>>24736754
Gabe...
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>>24741956
is
>"real eyes realize real lies" meme
really any different than Joyce's
>love loves to love love
tho?
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>>24736948
>pressured her into writing a fullblown novel
it's not a novel thoughbeit
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>>24742026
If Levy was the first person to write real eyes realize real lies then maybe you would have a point. But she wasn't, so you do not .
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>>24741994
I’m trusting Nabokov over you on this one

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Is T.E. Lawrence's translation of the Odyssey any good?
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>>24741811
If you like TEL and you already know the Odyssey you might find it interesting. But as a single definitive rendition of Homer it's useless.
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>>24741811
Is his book any good? I quite enjoyed Lawrence of Arabia.

For me, it's Oblonsky. Why not live like him? His lifestyle seems like the most harmless and fun.
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>>24741009
He lost his wife, kids, friends, and ended up working a kind of shit job. I think you just hate the idea of taking accountability for the fact that your life sucks.
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What’s your favorite chapter? Mine is the one where Alexei goes through how he’s gonna confront Anna about the affair in meticulous detail in his head being as reasonable and graceful as possible just for Anna to notice his weak nature and totally ignore him knowing he won’t do shit about it. Massive redpill
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>>24741720
The one in Italy where the Italian peasant is thinking about what a dilettante poseur Vronsky is for showing him his shit painting. There's this very nice tension setting in as the cracks in Anna and Vronsky's relationship become apparent, and the way in which they chase distracting pleasantries rather than confront the soullessness of their lives together.
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>>24741720
Levin harvesting the wheat.
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>>24741720
Kitty giving birth while Levin wanders around shellshocked for the duration. Particularly love the idea of it as a sort of twin chapter to the one where Levin's brother dies.

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I miss him so much bros..
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>>24741298
Why'd he pick a man with no experience chopping heads off to chop his head off? That'd be like the second or third question I asked. Only thing that would've made that story better would be if the commander they'd taken hostage stood up and said "quit getting blood all over my office dammit gimme that" and takes his head off with one clean stroke.
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>>24741979
Yes yes but what was his cat's name?
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>>24741298
What makes people stack so much shit on their main desks, that it gets unusable, then take photos with it? Trying to look busy or sagacious? Cause I'd slap him on the head to put at least half of it away, if not all of it.
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>>24742110
It's literally impossible to be an active writer without having a pile like that on your desk. You need immediate access to certain information for week or month long periods.

tyrion stroll edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

old: >>24704184
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Imagine thinking there will be TWOW news at New York Comic Con
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>>24740512
>>24740155
GRRM has the same approach towards religion as Sapkowski, ironically - since he doesn't like it, neither do most people in their settings.
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>>24742049
Their will
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>>24735414
>and his wife filtered a lot
Literally the only thing she edited was the trench run.
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What lore drops are you hoping from Melissandre's chapters in Winds? I think hers along with Bran's will both be super important maybe exploring what the church if Rhollor is really like, how the initiation process works, etc

But more importantly who should Brienne wind up with? Hardmode no Jaime

Sorcery, Wizardry, Witchcraft, Psionics, and General Magic and Powers Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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>>24667235
I was thinking that in my world the lord of the Abyss is a being of madness and corruption that cannot truly create, only twist and break. As a result, all demons were ultimately once elementals that came too close to a place where the barrier between the Abyss and the mortal world is thin, and got dragged through and twisted into a demonic form, but with some of their original elemental nature still shining through. I was thinking that there would be some kinds of demons, like imps, who can be of any element (flame, ice, lightning, shadow, etc.) while there are some kinds of demons that are only made of one kind of corrupted elemental, like gargoyle-looking demons for stone elementals. Besides ideas for which kinds of demons can be made of only one element, since I want there to be more than just one breed designated for each element, so succubi work better as demons created solely from flame elementals like picture related, or demons that can be any element?
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>>24739234
>LitRPG
Why?
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>>24739973
No, you don't unlock it by worshipping the god, but rather the opposite. If you unlock the skill tree you are expected to worship the related god and be part of the religion. You can choose not to, but the other religions might not let you do that.
But thinking on it more, I guess I'm not that invested in writing a mainly religious conflict.
>>24741502
Why not? LitRPG is great.
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>>24741653
>Why not? LitRPG is great.
I find it highly autistic (not the good kind)
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>>24738955
>The animalistic demons have names that are titles, those could work well.
I hadn't thought of that, thanks. What about more humanoid/intelligent demons like again, succubi, though?

Is Chinese President Xi Jinping right?
>inb4 define objective reality

>Of all things in the world, metaphysics requires the least amount of effort; as it is neither based on nor subjected to the test of objective reality, people can talk as much nonsense as they like. Upholding materialistic dialectics, in contrast, demands a high level of genuine effort. On the one hand, we should strengthen investigation and research to accurately understand objective reality and truly grasp objective laws. On the other hand, we should continue to observe things dynamically, not statically; holistically, not one-dimensionally; systematically, not fragmentally; and in context, not in isolation, with a view to properly handling various major relationships. All subjectivist, formalist, mechanistic, dogmatist, and empiricist views are metaphysical ways of thinking, and cannot produce positive results in practice.

Source: https://www.ccdpch.com/dialectical-materialism-is-the-worldview-and-methodology-of-chinese-communists/
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>>24740455
We already have all that here but at least their government provides upward mobility and makes their people richer. With none of this democratic bullshit gunging up the government.
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>>24740148
>people can talk as much nonsense as they like
thank you based xi for the permission.
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>>24740340
Hu is.
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>>24740148
>inb4 define objective reality
>I reject metaphysics while making tons of metaphysical claims and presupposing its truth, but lemme cook for a minute
I'm good. It's like reading those moral relativists who say what we should (read: ought to) pursue is economic progress or stability or some other arbitrary nonsense.
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>>24741384
You can't ''purge corruption'' because political corruption is legal in the US, it's systemic; you will always have politicians bribed by war profiteers to create endless war for profit

Post a movie and get a book recommendation.
I'll start.
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>>24736992
Last Days by Adam Nevill
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>>24732870
the correct answer
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>>24741518
The killers - hemingway

I have read almost all of the relevant texts of Vedantic metaphysics and ethics and many of the most relevant texts from the other schools of Hinduism.
All of the books that I read fail to address the necessity of grace. The weakness of mankind refutes Hinduism.
>This is what I told you in the beginning, that it is in our power either to sin or not to sin, and to stretch out our hand to either good or evil, in order that free will may be preserved; but this is because of the manner and time and condition of human weakness. I also said that the perpetuity of sinlessness is reserved for God alone and for Him, who, as the Word made flesh, was not subject to sin and the defects of the flesh. But just because I can avoid sin briefly does not mean that I can do it continually. I can fast, pray, walk, read, sing, sit, sleep; but can I do these things continually?
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>>24736535
It gets even worse - because if God is the true omniscient creator of everything, they would have to somehow explain mankind, being made by that omniscient God, falling into sin, which makes God inherently sinful.
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>>24740410
Sin is a word for the way in which man is separate from God/perfection. Then perfection, the ideal version of man's reality includes apparent separation from itself, which allows adversity/evil. This is both apparent in every moment and in the story of when God was embodied as a man.
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>>24739825
Last words of a dead zoomer
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>>24740259
Virtue is in our power through the grace of God.
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All paths lead to the same place if you walk them far enough, OP. You are getting sidetracked by useless theological debates that serve no purpose to your personal journey. This is because you’ve consumed too much religious content from YouTubers who realized conflict is a good way to get views.

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nice board you got there faggot
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Needs more Kant
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>>24739958
What did you circle?
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>>24741270
Things that make him angry
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>>24741381
Can I circle this thread?
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>>24739958
Are you trying to say these were all posted by the same anon?

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About to grab three of these soon. Pick one I should chuck.
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>>24740554
The one written by a woman
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>>24740554
Chuck you say?
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>>24740554
You should chuck them all, go read the woof woof bark awooooooooooooooooooooo ga ha ha ha of Gilgamesh instead. Hahahahaha. BOOKS! Idiot! IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!

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How come none of the great writers developed Alzheimer? You'd think at least one would have gotten senile in his old age.
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Uh, hello? Terry Pratchett?
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>>24741311
Jonathan Swift, almost certainly. Famously in his later years he took down from the shelf a book he had written decades before, looked in it, put it back and sighed because he couldn't understand it. Flowers For Algernon vibes.

Robert Graves (or something very like it). His memory went almost completely in his last 5-10 years.

Iris Murdoch.

Gabriel Garcia Marquez, probably. (His vocabulary shrunk pretty markedly in his last books.)

Terry Pratchett, famously, although you might not call him "great".
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It's very unfortunate that Proust didn't live long enough to become senile.
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>>24741311
Does doing intellectually challenging activity prevent Alzheimer? What does the soince(tm) say?
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>>24742071
The only empirically supported prophylactics against senile dementia are good diet, regular exercise and moderation in, rather than abstinence from, the consumption of alcohol.


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