Platonic/Aristotelian philosophy has been a disaster for civilization, although the damage was done in a lingering effect. There are no "Forms/Ideals"; simply change, tension, holy war, holy fire, cycles, and divine logic
>>24976185philosophies do not change civilizations
>>24976354reddit take
>>24976203Do you think the Epicurean and Stoics doomed humanity by introducing cosmopolitanism?
>>24976185Based an heraclitean-pilled>>Muh it is impossible for any thing to be and not be at the same timeFagaristotle and plato both were so retarded they took the heraclitean fire symbolism at face value. Well, at least Aristotle actually understood what Heraclitus meant by it later(not Plato though).
>>24976354Philosophy is literally a predecessor of science. Science changes civilizations.
Hey guys, pls rate the start of my military sci-fi novel
>>24974326>Like, swamp ass hotWe've got a Pulitzer prize candidate right here, lads.
>>24974354>it's clear you're literate
>>24974326>I've seen Aliens and now I'm a writer
>>24977741>I assumed the setting was some kind of standard fantasy until they mentioned Greece and Rome, then simply Europe until someone used "Odin's knapsack!" as an expletive. Now I'd wager that they inhabit some far future retro-feudal society like Dune. I don't believe for a second that the prechristian savages of Europe were glorifying classical antiquity, and there's no real historical context to place them anywhere by the end of the first chapter. Are they in a grandiose marble ballroom? A timbered keep with braziers belching wood-smoke? What kind of norse pagan has a latin name in the first place?Thanks anon. I appreciate it. I need more setting to set shit up. And the Latin name is addressed later. >prechristian savages of Europe What if it's about prechristian slavs becoming christians? But I'll work on the setting more. If it's not clear, then I'll need to write more about the setting. And I did want an unlikable protagonist, so I'll leave that.
>>24977851>What if it's about prechristian slavs becoming christians?Then they'd know Rome very well, because (Eastern) Rome was the state emanating christendom into pagan russia through roman, greek-speaking christians.. And their names still wouldn't have a latin ring to them. I understand the impetus to make the names common and understandable but it lessens the historical feeling and the immersion into the world the reader's expected to fall into if the characters only have vaguely premodern, anglicized latin names. But that's just another nitpick.
"Kwanzaa" EditionPrevious: >>24964299/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Simple guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24977850i pity you
>>24977858if you were a brain in a box with no external connection, you wouldn't even think
>>24975542I stopped at "Victoria couldn't respond. Her fingers intertwined with his." I didn't find it very interesting so I just skipped around a bit after. The twist at the end of Chapter 1 where the prince chooses a different girl is way too obvious.
>>24977856https://docs.google.com/document/d/14yqB0whtsFpaM15nDgdRAUdAWMiRvLActeX3FG8bnJM/edit?usp=sharing
>>24977853It would only let me do private due to content. Trying againhttps://ctxt.io/2/AAD4ZdTSEw
Based Bakker Edition>Old:>>24968637>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24977459Uh.. last month? Like 2. And they were both short. But would recommend
>>24976681If book sales performance decided whether to continue the series, CR would've stopped a long time ago.
>>24976640You got filtered. That's okay. Own it and move on.
>>24977342No. The first two books are all you need.
>Steve Erikson>Born Steven Rune Lundinayo this nigga SWEDISH
I've never personally found any argument against suicide that really convinces me. The more philosophy I read, the more many common objections seem based on instinct or emotion rather than careful reasoning. When people call suicide "murder" or "unnatural" they often ignore that a right to life should also include the right to give it up, and that nature itself isn't a moral authority. If it were, we wouldn't use medicine to prevent or delay natural deaths. The claim that suicide is selfish also feels very one-sided. It can just as easily be seen as selfish to expect someone to keep living with unbearable mental or physical suffering simply so others don't have to feel grief. None of us chose to be born, and being stuck in a life that has become intolerable is a tragedy, not a moral failure. I think society has a strong optimism bias that makes people assume life is better than it really is for everyone. When someone experiences life mainly as a heavy burden, ending their life can be a rational way to take back control over something they never chose.
>>24976567>omniscient being>free willPeople still don't get it.
>>24976525Why would sociology help? lol
>>24976419The biggest argument against suicide is attention seeking faggots like you. Do it or dont only your mom will care maybe.The funniest shit is when fags kill themselves over a woman that does not give a single thought toward them. Ever
>>24977844Why do you think? Man is not a solitary being.
>>24977861Why not kill the woman? If i can't have her, no one can.
I've written an account of my travels which lasted around six months. During this time, I tried to make myself as vulnerable as possible: hitchhiking, wild camping, sleeping in abandoned churches, travelling with no possessions etc. So that in my frail state I might enter a purely emotional state of being, and in doing so learn from my feelings more about what it is to be human, unobscured by thoughts polluted by the modern age. I'm deeply inspired by the Romantics like Wordsworth and my goal was to learn from all nature, incl my own self, as much about humanity as possible. This piece I wrote is the first finished piece of writing i've ever written and since it is such a peculiar piece I would really appreciate some feedback to really understand what sort of level it is at. I know most anons will squeal at the lack of irony and cynicism, it is purposefully earnest to the point it will put people off, but any feedback is appreciated. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Np6ZWpuBUVRu7vErExCus2OVylaXezwX/view
>>24977091Basically, have more fun with words and be more observational for god's sake! Stop trying to sound profound and focus on playing with words! Follow the Chekhovian dictum about showing a reader the light glittering on a broken bottle's neck instead of the moon. Here's an exercise for you: take your favorite book passages and reverse engineer a list of raw facts and observations needed to craft the paragraph. Like how in one paragraph of GR, Pynchon could specify that a breakfast table has a weak leg repaired with brown twine. Simply make a list of everything factual the author needed to know to write that paragraph, then do the same for your own writing. Put fact against fact and ask yourself whether you worked hard enough to choose the most unique, scene-defining fact, or whether you went for the most obvious comparison. Then ask yourself what you need to do to rectify those faults: do you need to observe harder and perhaps take pictures for reference so you can describe, say, the correct way the shadow falls upon fruit in the marketplace (can you describe the way a shadow falls upon, say, an orange? Can you describe the changes in color and texture? Do you have any striking metaphors or allusions to enhance the scene? Perhaps you can inject wordplay or a joke or a pun?), perhaps you need to do more historical research to find deeper connections in the setting. Whatever it is, the depth of your thought and your skill is insufficient.Read the following books: Sin and Syntax, Shakespeare's Use of the Arts of Language, Poetic Meter and Poetic Form, Metaphors We Live By. These give you the tools and vocabulary to analyze the form of texts you come across so you can replicate their techniques. Read more and analyze those forms and internalize them.
>>24977095Also really egregious grammatical errors like "strangers gazes" (supposed to be possessive) and awkward constructions like "reached an even greater extent of soulfulness" tells me you just need to get better at basic English in the first place. Peruse Sin and Syntax alongside a grammar book for that.
>>24977091Thank you anon for taking the time to read it and write this out. Some questions:1. Is there actually anything redeemable about it?2. What sort of level of writing would you say it is at?
>>24977046Its not that bad. I've read much of the stuff that gets posted here and it is not as bad as half of that.
>>24977387Well I guess the only redeeming thing I can think of is your grammar isn't completely hopeless and you do sort of capture the Romantic style even if it's a wan derivation. But really you shouldn't care about 'redeemability'. Since you don't handle English naturally, you have larger issues to deal with: you must reach the level where you can self-diagnose why a stretch of text might be awkward or rough in the first place. That is, reach the level where you can identify the parts of speech and analyze the syntax of your writing well enough to self-edit. Furthermore, you're at the stage where you should be trying out a lot of things and testing out a lot of styles, instead of committing to one type of literature. Beckett initially tried to write like James Joyce till he figured out maximalism was not for him and he went all the way in the other direction. Try out as many forms as possible: write like the Romantics, then write Kafkaesque, then Hemingwayan minimalism, then Nabokovian, then Gothic etc... Try poetry or one-act plays or flash fiction. Tennessee Williams at 16 years old wrote a rather mediocre Lovecraftian weird tale called The Vengeance of Nitocris and it shows a better grasp of Romantic technique and rhythm than your writing:>Hushed were the streets of many-peopled Thebes. Those few who passed through them moved with the shadowy fleetness of bats near dawn, and bent their faces from the sky as if fearful of seeing what in their fancies might be hovering there. Weird, high-noted incantations of a wailing sound were audible through the barred decors. On corners groups of naked and bleeding priests cast themselves repeatedly and with loud cries upon the rough stones of the walks. Even dogs and cats and oxen seemed impressed by some strange menace and foreboding and cowered and slunk dejectedly. All Thebes was in dread, And indeed there was cause for their dread and for their wails of lamentation. A terrible sacrilege had been committed. In all the annals of Egypt none more monstrous was recorded.Yeah it is still cliched but set this paragraph next to yours and notice how much more firmer it sounds in terms of assonance and consonance. Like the e-sounds and h-sounds and internal rhyme of "Hushed were the streets of many-peopled Thebes".But don't worry. If you keep at it you might just get there eventually. Consider Norman McLean who only published at around 70 years old one of the most beautiful novellas in the English language. Or Raymond Chandler who had his debut at 40. You probably will need a decade of varied practice, analysis, and reading (should hit at least 500-1000 books including all the classics) before your writing will take publishable shape.
Post your address and I'll send you a free book
>>24977612One of your books says 'Jeet' on it. Hope you aren't Canadian and lying in wait for our hate-speech crackdown.
>>24977612none of them, but you took a karate class and now larping as a black belt master or something. how about you read this so you don't get yourself killed, it's illegal in most countries though so just pirate it.
Can't believe you retards have never heard of Bruce Lee
I don't live in a communist country - the book is literally on Amazon https://a.co/d/6AzRTwc
>>24977612>Post your address and I'll send you a free book
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
some will wed for gold and treasurebut true love is the greatest pleasureand in true love you will findone that is graced with a noble mind
...as though these fleeting lives of ours were only fractured reflectionsof some eternal momentexpressing itself in a thousand colorsrefracted in the mirage of time's wide sandslike light through a stained glass windowfalling on colorblind eyes...
Recommend me some goodnature poets like Archibald Lampman, please.
Sunday soldiers don’t go down unless you shoot them -A dogma is a dogma, unless it’s not.Nonetheless, I genuinely don’t know.Nothing here and nothing thereCan be friends
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What's your favourite budget publisher? For me it's Arcturus. Their books are dirt cheap and often come with tasteful, bright designs, with a wide selection of classics.
>>24976810>Their books are dirt cheap and often come with tasteful, bright designs, with a wide selection of classics.Okay, but what about the content?
>>24977796Yep. It contains words that form a full text.
>>24977823So the content is shit. Got it.
>>24977824You got it, champ.
>>24977841Thank you for helping us avoid a shitty publisher.
I know it's hardly 'literature', but my nostalgia has hit me hard this Holiday season and instead of working on my Fiction/Non-Fiction book list I just want to cozy up and go through these books. I ordered the first four, and I remember growing up loving this one the most. I thought it was the best one. Was I right?
>>24977627any type of super busy cartoony drawing when I was a kid was gonna hit for me. The dookie album cover hit the same way
>>24977627I used to collect these as a kid
I vaguely remember this being the best one too. The one where you had to find the right dog in a sea of imposter ones took me so long. The wizard was my favourite.
>>24977627i had everything up to where's waldo in hollywood except for where's waldo now (the second one). i remember liking fantastic journey a lot but i loved where's waldo in hollywood the most. except for the last page, it's fucking stupid and you'd need to be genuinely autistic to figure it out
>Average book length in 2025: 340 pagesHow did you do?
I didn't read anything this summer. There was too much to do.
>>24977558the The Book Leo?
People count all the pages they read? I guess when you're severely autistic / ADHD you gotta do what you gotta do to stay focused on reading.
>>24977599
2024 & 2024 have been my weakest years in the last 7 years
where is he now?
Only sober analysis of this stupid fucking conflict I've read, I think he was right desu.
>>24977500I'm really, really looking forward to the collapse of Israel. Should be even sooner than he predicts; supposedly there's a terrible omen around the year 2028 for Jews. That would be 80 years since the founding of Israel, and Jewish states have a habit of crapping out at the eight-decade mark.
>>24977673I doubt it will be quick, very likely Israel will disintegrate over two or three generations with ample time for all of the guilty parties to escape to other countries to continue their ruinous activities. The Jews are more dangerous without a country than they are with one.
sounds like a giant cope to me desu. Iran's proxies are in tatters and effectively nobody important gaf about Gaza. Gulf arabs are just chomping at the bit for the moment they can re-normalize relations and get the money flowing again. The unconditional support is probably ending but the goyim also have short memories so who knows Almost every country has demographic problems and the haredi shit is a literal nothingburger. Israel only looks to be in a bad spot if you are looking at only Israel. Nuclear fire upon tel aviv btw
>>24977500Dude what? Iran is fucked badly enough to move its capital. Hezbollah has been defanged. The whole thing reads like yet another pro-Iranian fantasy of a US invasion and subsequent quagmire.
I totally BTFO'd a slimy little materialist today and literally had him admitting he didn't know anything but that he doesn't care because he only wants to be successful. I spit on materialists. Not Satan's brightest.
>>24977330Robots are tools. I don't believe humans are robots anymore than I believe squirrels are vacuums
>>24977402Descartes actually argued opposite of this, that animals and plants have no semblance of life at all and are automata created by god for man and that man has the real intellect… even though man is as much a creation of God as animals are so differentiating between automata and intellect doesn’t make much sense when they’re both robotic creations made by God.
>>24977176Oh yeah? Did the whole library start clapping for you? Did Dostoevsky rise from his grave to give you a standing ovation?
>>24977527Yeah, it was great. The light of God shone through the window and illuminated a bust of St. Augustine which wept with joy while a nearby church organ started spontaneously playing Bach.
>>24977176and then everyone clapped
Whenever I read literature pre-1960s I kind of amused at how normalized it is for characters to seek out prostitutes. I was just reading lolita and Humbert has many moments with french streetwalkers in the beginning.It's almost like they were a normal facet of men's lives back before internet porn and feminism. It's almost like the concept of casual sex with a normal woman was unimaginable Were brothels really that common back then?
>>24976915It doesn't matter what women want in the long run unless they want to kill off the human race.
>>24974561>unimaginableIt depends on how much imagination you've got.It's a rare quality in some quarters.
>>24976935Because Catholics realise that religion is all for show, and you're not meant to take it seriously.
>>24974349Whores are normal women. Consider your mother.
>>24974520All women expect something in return for sex.Usually it's a wedding ring, your servitude, and half of what you've got. At least prostitues offer better value.
WHY IS EVERY FUCKING MODERN AUTHOR NOW A WOMAN? WHERE DID THE MEN GO?
>>24977531I'd say that we can build our own libraries, host our own sites, and give out our own awards, but the logical endpoint is starting our own country where we can run things our own way aka without women and jews. That, of course, is the best way to get raped by the government and probably killed.
>>24977531Manga already has a huge female authorship and readership. In fact some of the most famous and wealthy manga artists are women. It doesn't matter because the manga industry is ruthlessly meritocratic and is constantly bringing in new blood with its extremely low barrier to entry.
>>24977548Japan in general has a long tradition of celebrated female authors, so Japanese women don't have the same chip on their shoulder when it comes to being taken seriously as artists. In the west, they act like it's still the dark ages and they'll be burned at the stake for publishing, even though celebrated female authors go back like 200 years in western literary tradition at this point. Every generation of western woman wants to be the heroic figure breaking the glass ceiling. If they stopped to look around they'd notice all their peers are women, the award committees are women, and the publishing houses are staffed by women.
>>24968349Just walk into the librarium and make loud grunt noises and scare the women off as you trigger the librarium lunk alarms. Let them try to make their own female only librariums and see how that goes.
>>24977526ok, you're right
