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Is he right?
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>>24737947
I dunno, some nerd. Speaking of, that was a pretty decent sci-fi.
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>>24735904
if you're not fat or ugly you've never read a book
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Can't be a performative reader if you live in genuine social isolation on the edge of the woods and no one even sees you let alone sees you reading books. I am okay with this.
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>>24738081
You just proved yourself wrong.
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>>24738081
>pulling the ultimate performance isn't a performance
All the world's a stage.

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What are the highlights of his bibliography? I read Whatever when I was 16 and really enjoyed but haven't gone back to him since. He seems like one of the last interesting writers left alive after we lost Bolaño and McCarthy, although I am not comparing him to them
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>>24737954
The Elementary Particles is a must-read so start there. The Possibility of an Island is good, a sort of continuation of the major theme in The Elementary Particles. The Map and the Territory is his most polished work. Platform is simultaneously smut, comedy, and prophecy that you'll either hate or love. As for everything else, just pick at random, it's all worth reading in my opinion just to see how his ideas have evolved over time.
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>>24738036
Just read up about The Map and the Territory. That sounds great so I'll definitely check that one out
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>>24738050
Good choice. For the record, The Elementary Particles is a lot closer to Whatever in style and themes. The Map and the Territory will feel like it was written by a different author. But still a good choice.
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>>24738060
Well it's been six years since I read Whatever so my memory of it's style is distant to me now so I think I'll be able to slide into Map comfortably enough

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If you had to recommend a sincere, no-nonsense, in-depth, unfrilled, bullshit-free realistic depiction of the concept of love between a man and a woman to a young teenage male via the form of a story, what would you recommend?

I'm looking for human condition tier shit here, something to dispell the illusory mysticsm of "romantic love" something sobering.

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Nietzsche was so based
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>>24737072
>They're aren't distinct numbers of people. When I am in a room with one other person there is only arbitrarily two people here. You can also mate a pig to itself because units are an invention.
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>>24738062
>fit-nominalists in this thread bother me
>if a shirt is not tailor-made exactly to a person's specific dimensions, it is clearly not possible for them to wear it
>and we see people wearing shirts
>so each shirt must have been tailor-made to their specific dimensions
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>>24738062
Nominalism is peak midwit.
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>>24738062
>the nominalism I see ITT always bothered me, because if math is just a game of symbols with no actual grounding in reality, then there is absolutely no reason why it should be as powerful a tool as it is
So you don't know what nominalism is but you're highly opinionated about it because you heard it's the cause of le downfall of the west somewhere, probably a blog. What a stupid cunt.
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>>24738080
What makes something "useful?" Is there such a thing as usefulness or goodness? In virtue of what are things similar? What are the causes of people deciding that things are similar if there is really no such thing as similarity?

At least the original nominalists realized that you cannot have nominalism without volantarism, but volantarism without God starts to look even more ridiculous. "Usefulness" becomes a sort of metaphysical primitive that makes everything what it is, through the God-like powers of the language community or whatever. As if ants wouldn't be ants if it wasn't "useful" to call them such (in which case, what causes this to seem useful?)

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Why do books get more depressing as you travel east?
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>>24737157
>Japan the most intelligent.
Japanese zoomers are more brainfried than Americans
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>>24736580
Lmao true
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>>24736633
>I mean,
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>>24736580
What? They get more depressing the closer you get to World War 2.
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>>24736633

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women scare me
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>>24736160
The average educated woman
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>>24732567
I'm writing a true crime YA novel from the perspective of a werewolf tamed by a the love of a feminist.
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>>24734830
Apparently when American Indians kidnapped pilgrim settler women, and the pilgrims went to rescue them, they didn't want to be rescued. You can actually watch those central asian bride kidnapping videos and see the process play out in real time. The girl is sobbing, sobbing....then the wedding happens and right before the ceremony she's suddenly all normal and happy.

I wonder how the smarter ones feel about the fact that they have a stockholm syndrome switch that goes off when they're properly dominated, and they come to accept and internalize it. It's why I understand them somewhat being freaked out at even the most milquetoast expressions of conservative gender roles or religiosity, they intuitively know how narrow a knife's edge their psychological freedom actually rests.
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>>24732567
>>24733253
>>24733296
>>24736045
>>24736070
>>24736160
Tapping the sign
>male sexual fantasy: I get to cum inside a barefoot uniformed nurse
>female sexual fantasy: I am a psychopathic murderer's no-limits sex slave
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>>24736147
>you don't approve of me masturbating to cartoons of children?
>what are you a NORMIE
Fascinating

This is a thread for decadent literature...
Charles Baudelaire
Paul Verlaine
Stéphane Mallarmé
Arthur Rimbaud
Joris-Karl Huysmans
Ernest Dowson
Lionel Johnson
Aubrey Beardsley
Oscar Wilde
John Gray
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>>24736958
>decadent literature
So 99.99% of new books for like the past 80 years.
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>>24736970
I expected satanists put more thought into their poetry but it's just:
>le satan, god
>I praise thee
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>>24737470
>In the 1860s Rops had developed an acquaintance with a Madame Duluc and her two young daughters, Aurélie and Léontine Duluc (age 14 and 17 respectively at that time). A few years later, not long before the estrangement from his wife, he began a ménage à trois with the sisters, apparently with their mother's endorsement. He had children with both, although one child died at an early age.
Um, based?
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>>24737590
It's not a satanist's poem, it's Les Litanies de Satan by Baudelaire
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>>24738014
It literally says in the 2nd line:
>Glory and praise to you, Satan

If that's not satanist I don't know what should be considered as such.
Or maybe there exists such context that makes this verse non-satanist but das hard to believe. Can you provide me with that?

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If someone intends to do good but causes harm, are they morally guilty?
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>>24735426
What the fuck are you on about
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>>24735348
Deontologically no.
Consequentially yes.
Analytically unanswerable because the question is meaningless.
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Moral indignation is envy with a halo and literally all questions of morality go back to the Golden Rule. I'm actually surprised people still bother with it in 2025.
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>>24735897
You can be judged guilty by your social peers without the need for legal process.
And you can feel guilty and condemn yourself for the consequences of your action (as you should, for your retarded post.)
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>>24737221
Nope. Any society has rules. Those who break them show a disregard for society.
Despite the profusion of edgelords posting on /lit/, humans remain social animals with a profound interest in social cohesion.

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Haha Jewish people are funny
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>>24737656
>Whats the deal with the J in Jews?
>You can't drink them but they do give people the ewwws.

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If you read this book while listening to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon you will notice the song matches it perfectly. Any books that explain this phenomenon?

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A friend keeps urging me to read this. I know the premise. Is it actually going to be entertaining or interesting? Will it be thought-provoking? Or just a bunch of racist drivel?
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>>24736991
honk shoo mi mi mi
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>>24734918
>black people
>"kill all criminals, except the black ones!"
>white people
>"kill all criminals, even the white ones!"
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>>24734981
>GDP doesn’t have much to do with intelligence, wealth production is mainly made by monotonous work in factories and other simple laborers, high IQ individuals, bosses, engineers and ceos have more workers and they’re also better off.

You're missing what actually holds thirdie countries back, corruption and a desire for social parasitism. India is as poor as it is not because the people there are stupid (although they are), but because they're trying to live off one another instead of producing things. Government jobs are patronage networks for your caste and clan, and they fatten themselves by taking bribes. South Africa degenerated into a typical African state pretty rapidly after apartheid ended, not because they lost all their white cognitive talent, but because the corrupt blacks couldn't help themselves and started feasting on government funds.

This is the "middle income trap" that you see many thirdie countries fall into, where they reach the limits of secondary sector development and can't break into firstie levels. Brazil and Malaysia are both prime examples of this. Malaysia could almost certainly be raised to first world levels by having the Chinese there rule over and disenfranchizing the Malays, the same way White South Africans managed to carve out a developed economy out of South Africa. But because the country is filled to the brim with Malays happy to take bribes, give themselves special privileges and be corrupt, the country remains poor. You can have cognitive talent but still have the retards running shit, or the envious poors demanding their slice of the cake.

This is what will make western countries third world -very- fucking rapidly in the coming years. White people are basically the only ones left not practicing open and brazen nepotism and doing mass tax avoidance, but they're starting to wake up and see what other races are doing, and will sharpen their own tools of corruption.
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>>24735034
Go read court cases from Rotherham, or read on the German festivals with all the rapes. Already in Europe the migrants and refugees are enslaving and raping white women. It's shocking because that's what happens when you're conquered.
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>>24734824
>West’s adoption of mass migration was a desperate attempt to revitalise the aging demographics and GDP.

No actually, it was pushed for ideological reasons and the political left got it started through moral blackmail. "You have to let them in or you're racist".

If the west was desperate and just wanted money, they'd do what South Korea, Israel and the Gulf States do. They'd get foreign migrant workers in but -never- let them have citizenship, and deport them the second they're not useful. Imagine the "Muh human rights" pushback we'd receive if we even floated that idea as the only form of non-white migration.

It's disingenuous to suggest it's all down to capitalists wanting to make a quick buck. The political left has a lot of blood on its hands for what its done, and you're not able to wash it off that easy.

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>>24734919
You're going to need a gun to do that :^)
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>>24737932
>It blows my mind that this is the sort of shit people think they're going to get from reading Aristotle
like Nicomachean Ethics?
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Oh my SCIENCE! Philosophy is done for. Bazinga!
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>Philosophy is prior to Science
>Science can't give us ethics
>Scientific method is non-testable
Lol, when did scientism become the norm?
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>>24737969
Right, the meat of NE, the catalogue of virtues, is banal, and what would you expect? NE is not a guide to being a good person, he explains what he is doing quite clearly but it went over your head apparently. It makes me depressed that philosophy is so interesting and a high IQ activity but it seems to mostly attract subliterate retards and stoners.

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Do you often peruse scripts at libraries?
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>>24736519
Well, maybe if she washed it well and shaved. I could see that.
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>>24734334
Imagine the smell
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>>24737858
>Is there such a thing as a subscription library to keep out to homeless and also you can have sex in it

In NYC and many other big American cities yes, but they are pay for "societies" or clubs that also have library rooms where you can just hang out, try ethnic centers like sons of Norway or
https://www.nysoclib.org/
https://www.sofn.com/join-a-lodge/
And these places aren't bursting with new membership so just fuck in the stacks or bathroom
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>>24737868
I want to live out that scene from The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover though preferably without getting killed at the end

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James Rolfe aka AVGN just released a book
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>>24732681
Spoil me the ending.
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>>24735373
There wasn't even YouTube or positive nerd culture wannabes when he started making his videos. He's a pioneer in what he does.
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>>24734378
>2.2
>now 3.3
We are so back.
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>>24735641

>“Come to think of it, I think I remember hearing that some kid died once,” said Bruce.
>“I don’t think that was related.” scoffed Cait. >“Well, they had no choice but to make a separate path. All because the dragon was too scary," explained Dante.
>“Nothing here could be that scary,” shivered Adam.
>“Too scary for you guys,” taunted Bruce.
>“I’m not afraid,” declared Dante. “Let’s go.”

This is a real excerpt from the book. It's like the only thing he knows about writing is his 2nd-grade teacher (before SPED) telling him to not use "said" when writing dialogue.
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>>24737782
>still not on libgen
How am I supposed to properly make fun of him?
No I'm not shelling out 4 bucks.

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Fitzgerald Chads or Fagles Fags?
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>>24737241
Lattimore always. Fitzgerald admitted Lattimore's Homer was superior.
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Caroline Alexander for the Iliad, Anthony Verity for the Odyssey
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>>24737241
Alexander Pope for both
>inb4 his odyssey is bad
No it isnt
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>>24737505
He didn't even translate the Odyssey.
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Eventually you'll discover Chapman, and realise what a bunch of slack-jawed faggots all the other translators were.


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