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You do have a basic understanding of how human language works, don't you?
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>>24987955
no, you are very confused
>only insofar as your lot can continue to shame people into not propagating it, because linguists are descriptivists and descriptivism is cuckoldry which will fold to usage.
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>>24987955
nah you made a mistake nigger
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>>24987960
This filtered you? Wow, how sad.
>>24987961
Name the mistake.
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>>24986942
so we should talk in African-American vernacular mayhaps?
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>>24985487
>>24985525
good books on language + philosophy of mind?

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Privacy by Danielle Chelosky (new story!)
>A folder on her laptop held the stories she was not allowed to publish. One boy forbade her because there was an entire paragraph about his dick size (it was complimentary, she didn’t understand the problem). Another was worried his girlfriend would end up finding it. Another said he would cancel her for invasion of privacy.

>These were rare instances. Mostly boys were flattered, considered it an ego boost, no matter how they were portrayed. People in general liked to be immortalized. In a way, she resented their narcissism, like they couldn’t appreciate what she’d written because they were just staring at themselves.

>The truth was whatever reaction the boys offered was not what she wanted, even if they lavished her with praise, called her a genius, it was never enough. She thought of writing as not just a plea to be seen but a plea to be loved. It never seemed to have the effect that she yearned for, probably because it was impossible. Maybe, she thought, if she killed herself then her words would take on a new, heavier meaning.

>She used to think that a boy being mad about a story she’d written about him meant the writing had done its job. It touched a nerve; it was controversial and had a direct impact on real life. Then she decided that mindset was banal, stupid. She thought her writing was at its weakest when it was a weapon.

>On the internet she stalked a writer she had once done a literary reading with. During the reading he had spoken candidly about his sex addiction, and his girlfriend at the time stomped off. Now he was dating a different writer and they were constantly writing about their relationship, hosting readings where they read about each other with each other, publishing the history of their love in glossy magazines that paid by the word. She felt put off by this masturbatory spectacle. Like she couldn’t imagine anyone caring about it or finding it as anything other than insufferable. She wondered how one could make interesting art if they viewed their life as a project—then isn’t the project about the project, not about life?
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Dad-yelles Child-rape-noncesky
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>>24986555
This, t b h
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>>24965319
>>24965321

I said it earlier in this discussion but good lord this human being is so comically passive. I feel like she's literally looking at her life like she's sitting at an art gallery, hmming and huhing at the people she encounters with no real purpose. Everything she encounters is treated like exhibits at an art museum too, consumed and criticized as if looking at some graduate student's 7/10 portraiture in a cold white gallery.

"The one thing which we seek with insatiable desire is to forget ourselves, to be surprised out of our propriety, to lose our sempiternal memory, and to do something without knowing how or why; in short, to draw a new circle. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm. The way of life is wonderful: it is by abandonment. The great moments of history are the facilities of performance through the strength of ideas, as the works of genius and religion. "A man," said Oliver Cromwell, "never rises so high as when he knows not whither he is going." Dreams and drunkenness, the use of opium and alcohol are the semblance and counterfeit of this oracular genius, and hence their dangerous attraction for men. For the like reason, they ask the aid of wild passions, as in gaming and war, to ape in some manner these flames and generosities of the heart."

Does anything happen to this human that actually makes them stop and realize how fucking hermetic they are? Do they ever transcend this self-obsessed psychically-cloistered monologue? Or is their whole reality just this droning on about how everything reminds her she's stuck inside her skull?
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>>24986479
I dont listen to hippity bop so I cannot translate your jungle runes into a civilized tongue. Im just going to assume that you are rambling on your dick and how much you hate the white man.
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>>24963259
>https://www.daniellechelosky.com/things-i-like
these is legit middle / early high school taste. actually embarrassing that a self styled writer would admit to such pedestrian taste. what do all the people with refined taste do now? they certainly arent part of the journalist / writer / wannabe writer class.

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the fourth blackfyre rebellion edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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>>24987435
>da norf is arguably the least honorable kingdom
kek stay mad suvvern poof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYm6aMMcFu8
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>>24987263
I'm glad he knew how to bathe
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It's over.
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Uhhhhh Radmure gang, do we still exist?
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>>24987224
>pic
Is that a Brindled woman of Sothoryos?

The book I have enjoyed the most this year has been The Unbearable Lightness of Being. In it, the author seeks to describe what it means for an individual to accept or reject the responsibilities that arise in their life.

Specifically, it describes two lifestyles. On the one hand, there is a life that accepts responsibility. This life is more grounded, connected to the earth, and experiences life in its fullness, since many of its actions have an impact on the world—to the point that the weight of those actions can end up crushing the individual to the ground. On the other hand, a life of lightness enjoys its own existence by avoiding any responsibility in order to focus on oneself, even though this life ultimately feels a sense of unease when realizing that all its actions end up being insignificant in the face of the world.

In summary, the idea that responsibilities make us more or less connected to the world around us has surprised me greatly.

What book have you enjoyed the most this year?
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>>24984706
>I've read a great quantity of books this year, as I consciously tried to give my life a more "productive" direction. Ultimately, I ended up treating every book as a merchandise to be consumed, "done with". I enslaved myself to the numbers in a spreadsheet; as a result, I can't say I've authentically enjoyed a book in this year of Our Lord (most of the time it felt like a duty I had to fulfill).

This should be the sticky for this pseudointellectual insecurity board
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>>24985105
Blindness, 100%.
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>>24984129
Beowulf
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>>24984475
I read Julius Caeser this year as well
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>>24984715
Comedy is the root of frivolousness. Meaningless laughter. Gooning is less meaningless than reading or watching q comedy.

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>tfw PDFs acquired from anna's archive and read through a computer screen yield scientifically proven poor results as regards retention & comprehension compared to printed text
>tfw too poor; can't afford physical copies
so much for my intellectual life. it never began
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>>24984901
Usually experiments performed on rats are medicinal, since we share a high DNA profile percentage. Close or over 90% if I recall correctly. However, rats are also observed to have a capacity for language (language like patterns in their squeaks. Also you can hook brain clones of them up to a motherboard and have them operate Doom). So, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that they have the capacity to read. They are still nowhere near our level of intelligence howeverbeit. Probably closer to a dog's, or a toddller's.
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>>24984873
don't buy a new laser printer ya big dummy. the best ones are a few years old anyway because they cost close to nothing, and can take cheap knockoff toner cartridges.
>>24985741
same concept for ereaders too. i just upgraded from a kindle DX, which is now 15 years old and still perfectly functional. if you're really too poor to justify $200 for the capability of a lifetime of knowledge in a single device, just buy any used kobo/kindle/etc and sideload whatever you want
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>>24985741
The biggest thing to consider is where you'll get your books from; the first-party bookstore is the main differentiator between the mainstream devices. I don't have much of an opinion there, I prefer to just pirate digital copies and then buy physical if they're worthy. Personally I wouldn't buy digital books unless you're able to download the epub file, ideally without DRM.

Install calibre on your computer and start collecting books in there. Any (non-kindle) reader you plug in will render EPUB files just fine, and calibre will automatically convert formats if needed. (newer Kindles don't play as nicely with sideloading)
i'm a kobo enjoyer myself but any of the more foreign ones like Pocketbook should be just fine if you don't care about having a huge integrated bookstore.

Also stay away from color screens unless you really need it for manchild comic reasons. They're not ready for prime time yet and are a noticeable step down from a monochrome screen when viewing regular text
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>>24984819
used books exist, if you can afford internet you can afford them as well
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>>24984819
Ive read so many epubs/ebooks on my iphone.
Its kino, ten times better than reading a paperback imo.
I set the pages to auto scroll and have the phone on a comfy cushion stand.
When i find a pdf that doesnt have an epub cousin i convert that pdf to epub online where possible.

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Should i read this abridged edition or go through the 2500 pages of the original one?
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>>24987165
Imagine reading an abridgment of a work of fiction.
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>>24987165
read the arthur waley abridgement. i wouldnt trust this eurasiantiger lookin chudjak.
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>>24987165
Websloppers eat 10 million word sloppas for breakfast and you can’t even read one book.
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>>24987986
Web novels don't count as reading.
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>>24987986
This man knows whats up

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One year anniversary of elite readership
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/lit/ is full of retarded pseuds
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>>24987971
Please say r*****ed or r-worded next time. We have a beautiful woman posting among us!
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>>24987962
the left sacrificed itself on the altar of race and we're all worse off because of it
they fell for the genetic detritus telling them they had to dull their blades in service to "anti imperialism", turns out they weren't a reserve revolutionary army but a parasite class motivated by resentment and insecurity
this is you forever now
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>>24987708
Damn I didnt know /lit/ shitposters looked like THAT
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>>24987975
/lit/ is full of diversely-abled academic-nonconformists who self identify as intelectuals

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ruins edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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Harry Potter's magic genetic system was unironically great.

On one hand, magic has a strong genetic component, so it isn't so common that everyone could have it. Something something when everyone's a super, nobody is.

But on the other, magical strength isn't. The Scion of a centuries old family is not going to be naturally stronger than someone who was born from Muggles. So meritocracy and hard work still has a place in the system.

It's also unironically the best way to turn Wizards into a separate tribe, because they are all part of a single genetic set. And also to create a social hierarchy based on which groups are more magic nationalist (ie more obsessed with whether your genes are more magic than others) without actually validating the Shonen Anime type eugenics.
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There's not much space for character development if the enemy are unthinking, ontologically evil forces of destruction we can't really communicate with.

That's my big grievance against stories that borrow Heinlein's "Bug War" narrative. I want wars against humans, not insects.
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>>24987832
Salamanders, lol.
Other than that fire can work for any land or flying animal/insect. Like a swarm of all consuming fire ants could lead to potent and terrifying imagery. Meanwhile a cloud of fireflies could stress the beauty of dancing emblems in the night.
Or a stampede of huge fiery bison that is symbolic of being in the destructive path of a raging wildfire.
A fish would be weird but even that could work if weird is what you are going for.
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>>24987890
>the Shonen Anime type eugenics.
Only show I can think of with such a trope is Naruto and to a lesser extent Bleach.
Most others the protag just a combo of hard working and lucky, which is often a OP combination.
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>>24987977
"Demon genes give me superpowers" has been a trope since the 1980s. Even Goku had it.

Alone Once More Edition

Stubbed >>24982319

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24987376
validation addiction culture
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hey. crabs went to bed.
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this is just like when Fang Yuan faced the swamp crab desolate beast calamity
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>>24987267
The advice I got a few times is that you need a hook at the top and a pithy quote at the end that you bold for emphasis.

>One man will end a war that has lasted centuries.
>War hero Lawrence Mengde has done everything in his power to ensure that the Imperium and the Confederacy's century-long war finally comes to end. All he wants is to observe history, not to change it.
>But when the Imperium hurls an asteroid fortress towards the capital planet, Lawrence must question his own role in the everlasting carnage. Does he remain the dutiful soldier and lose everything, or does he become the tyrant he spent his life opposing?
>Peace, at any cost - but only he can avert it being the peace of the grave.

Or something like that, I guess. I don't know what you're aiming for.
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>>24987376
Because people want social validation, you idiot. Don't act like that isn't a normal, healthy behaviour for a sane human being.

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one of those books you immediately start re-reading once you get to the end
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>>24987133
funnily enough, german actally has a word for that:
>thoseonlyexistingermanen
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>>24987215
IN ENGLISH, DOC
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>>24980343
I do with pretty much every text I like. If OP means by "re-reading" as just flipping some pages back, to contemplate a notorious scene or chapter you liked or were intrigued with.
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I have farts with more substance than this thread.
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>>24975922
I wonder what the incest-couple stands for symbolically.

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The polls for the main voting have closed. Now it has come for the tiebreaking.
>https://forms.gle/eXmHiPgimFmzUwMA6
Each book will be scored on a scale from 0 to 4. The scores from all voters will be added, and books will be ranked by their total score.
You can edit your responses after voting. To limit one vote per person, a Google account is required to vote, but will not be collected or viewable in any way.
The Top 100 before tiebreaking are in picrel. The full information is in this spreadsheet.
>https://files.catbox.moe/iek244.ods
Voting closes on Jan 7, 23:59 EST. Thank you for voting!
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>>24986682
>the holy Bible
it's 66 books thoughever
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Imagine reading the APALLING, disjoined, and prosaic shit show that is the p&v translation of TBK and coming out of that book thinking it’s a better novel than the quintessential masterpiece of the English language (Moby Dick). These Jordan Peterson fags have went too far. You are not worth saving.
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>>24987943
The name of the fucking book doesn’t even make sense in English
>Brothers Karamazov
Karamazov Brothers
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>>24987892
>it's the same so it sucks
>it's different so it sucks
There's no pleasing you guys.
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>>24986682
If you rearrange the top 20 you get something close to a fine list though the last 7 are pretty bad reddit choices still.
>1. Bible
>2. First folio
>3.Divine Comedy
>4. Don Quixote
>5. Moby-Dick
>6. Faust
>7. Iliad
>8. Odyssey
>9. Brothers Karamazov
>10. Ulysses
>11. Anna Karenina
>12. The Trial
>13. Crime and Punishment

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>called The Count Of Monte Cristo
>by the halfway mark it's actually a bunch of subplots for a bunch of supporting characters with the Count appearing like a guest star
>it's a cross between pulp drivel and soap opera
>it's even full of filler like any random tv show
I'll be done with this before the year's out, and I swear to God, I'm not reading another "YUGE" and "great" novel ever again. Waste of time after waste of time. For God's sake. This is literally the equivalent of comic books but from a few centuries ago.
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>>24983883
You should watch the anime where she's a space vampire.
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Guess there are abridged versions for good reasons
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>>24984938
>>24985380
>>24985609
>t. triggered Dumutt
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>>24986456
>t. Drivel Worshipper (Edition De Luxe)
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>>24984112
>Ivanhoe
When Athelstane came back from the dead was the exact moment it became slop.

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you did read 100+ books in the year of our Lord 2025 didnt you /lit/?
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>>24986763
i did not read many books compared to pages read with some foreign language books tho took a few months off nearing the years end.
did you enjoy the books?
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>>24986763
>Hacking health
-by some jeet
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>>24986731
i am trying to improve my cognition before i start reading again
my brain has been damaged from years of not exercising

my reading comprehension is bad as a result of of a sedentary lifestyle(no bloodflood or oxygen to the brain)

i have been doing dead hangs and planks. i started doing pull ups.
i am trying to get oxygen and bloodflood to the brain to improve cognition
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I got like... eight
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i used to be able to read fine in school. After i became a NEET my cognition went to shit. i think a sedentary unhealthy lifestyle caused it
i can't comprehend anything i read now

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A good 95% of independent bookstores aren't actually for people who read, they're for tourists and rich "shop local" liberals who like the "cozy aesthetic", and they mostly sell trash that you could get on Amazon for 50% cheaper.
I hope Bezos puts them all out of business. Fuck you and fuck your locally owned chunguscore Instagram bookstore. Let only the true, used bookstores owned by some 90 year old who clearly doesn't want you there survive.
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>>24987830
Could it be >!reddit!<?
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>>24987865
Jesus fuck that was fast. Was my hint that obvious?

>>24987875
that insult hasn't been meaningful since at least 2016
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>>24987881
only for me maybe. i plan on moving to new england actually and i know the universities there have been around for centuries. hopefully a couple decades from now all the good books won't be burned by either gen beta's 6th gen progressivists or hispanic nazi teenagers. maybe politics can actually get serious in america for a change, if we're lucky. i'm predicting 19th century vegetables mixed with 70s spice if you catch my drift.
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>>24987201
Not really, they have a lot of books
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>>24987684
>Its a wildlife sanctuary and it won't be here forever, so you better snag your pixie cut cutie before its too late.
Damn guess I need to start lurking BAN

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How did someone decide to publish this slimy piece of trash shit 119 years after it was written and not get fucking ostracized, outcast from society or outright killed?

This shit is genuinely fucking disgusting.
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>>24981088
>Do you know why pedophilia causes even the borderline retards to fly into rage? Because it implies you're too retarded to talk with adults, and lack the intelligence and linguistic skill (ironic, for a literature board) to bed women.
this rationale doesn't match the character of the outrage
people don't get indignantly angry at retards, they pity them or get exasperated at having to deal with them. if you're running a store and a downie comes in with his handler, breaks free, and knocks over a shelf in a tard rage you don't blame him, you blame the handler
this is true even if a bystander gets hurt
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>>24981088
A lot of words to announce that you've been filtered by Nabokov. It's ok, he's more of a writer's writer, and you're terrible at writing, as evidenced by the verbal clichés littering your turgid effortposts.
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>>24980042
I'm not a Sade fan by any means, but holy shit Americans are such philistines.
You claim to be the land of the free yet at the same time, kill a person for publishing a NOT NICE book.
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>>24980042
It's a classic OP

>>24980079
Try reading the Bible sometime
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>>24981710
Lol you’re ridiculous

>>24980079
You are too


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