what's your strongest rebuttal against the problem of evil?
>>24747966Pagan gods are not omnipotent.
>>24749239I'm not even religious and obviously find this abhorrent, but it should be obvious that this doesn't subvert any arguments. Liberal hedonism has no imagination and so it believes the only metric for ideal goodly living is freedom from worldly suffering. By that argument, comforting numbness is ideal, infinite heroin with no drawbacks would be ideal, death would be ideal.
>>24747966Donesn't Plato solve this with the One, the forms and demiurge. The material world is simply imperfect but the best it could be.
god is not required to be comprehensible by mortal minds.if god is god then right is what god says it is and wrong is what he says it is. that's what it means. he's god.>"but that's stupid"agreed.consider pangloss: "all is for the best in this the best of all possible worlds". if this is the way that the world is, this is the way it has to be. why? who knows. but god is good and this is the world, so therefore this is a good world.
>>24749534>>24749749I am inclined to think this way too. I think omnipotent part is the weakest. ancient greeks didn't have omnipotent gods either yet they believed in them to govern things.>>24749339I like how you use your reasoning abilities to neuter yourself of basic instincts and inquiries simply because you cannot answer them so the questions themselves must be wrong or incorrect. it's astounding how stupid can people get.
Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24729043>Thread Question:Do you need supplementary material to enjoy books? I'm talking art, music, etc. based on the property? Does it help you visualize what you've read better?
>>24748749Shallan is, unfortunately, the main character of book 2. It's hard to know when her PoV will suddenly matter.
>>24740187Haven't read earthsea but I have read Heavens Lathe and loved it so probably earthsea
Is there a reason P. Watts has gotten so popular in the past 3 years? Or just a build-up of a consistent fan base creating content like that short film and online reviews?
>>24747602The worst part by far in the third book is Cassius escaping the moonbreaker. I just want this twist trope every author shits out to end. It is so tiresome.
>>24748931Against all Gods by Miles Cameron
>dude what if star wars but political
Young adult novel
>>24745838>dude what if star wars but super gay
>>24745850>fat evil depraved guyJabba = Baron Harkonnen
>>24745844>>24745852star wars retroactively influenced DUNE
>literally the most retarded thread on /lit/ rnCongratulations faggots.
What's the smartest book alive
>>24750054books don't even have brains you idiot
I don't know.Also, I really hate the image you attached.
>>24750054Let's imagine that OP meant "which book required the most amount of mental effort to go through", then I'd say the last volume of a treatise of civil law I had to study at uni.In terms of complexity and depth however, I'd say the collection of masonic poetry by Rudyard Kipling. It's much less expository, which you might say makes it smart only if the reader is smart.
>>24750249indeed they have souls that will outlive your puny ass
>>24750237Her ass was captured by 100 CCTV cameras throughout the store, but it's always the gooning jeet that takes all the blame
Can someone point me to an amoral character? I don't think amorality actually exists. It seems like you're either doing good or doing evil.
>>24749978>He's just evil and somewhat retardedSo are you but I still tried to answer your question in good faith, you could have at least engaged with the argument I made.>>24749991/thread
>>24749978>>24749952God I love Pechorin, psycho that he is.
>>24749880Peter Sellers character in Being There>>24749891google
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>>24749880Cugel the CleverI can think of only one instance where he does not act with his own self-interest in mind regardless of the consequences to others
Are we more prudish in some ways now? When I read old books, people including men say stuff like "he is as serenely beautiful as Endymion" or "she has such pretty feet" but nowadays you'd seem weird if you did so, even in a piece of fiction - at the very least you wouldn't be able to say them innocently and without irony
>>24749091>weSpeak for yourself, zoomer.
>>24750186>normal heterosexual love is 40 year old guys dating 20 year old womenlol ok. in b4 any stupid evopsych babble. dudes who pursue relationships with women who are 15+ years younger than them are mentally stunted
>>24750224you are trans, and also this is a strawman.
>>24750224Kek, that anon really hit a nerve, didn't he?
>>24749126Underrated post
Will studying philosophy actually grant me wisdom? Or will it only grant me knowledge of other men’s opinions? Will studying Plato’s writing on the soul give me wisdom on the nature of the soul or just knowledge of Plato’s opinions on the soul?
>>24750268Post nudes. Tits or gtfoBut also there's a good chart on lefty chan but best advice is always bee yourself and follow heart over charthttps://leftychan.net/edu/src/1612207844643.pdf
>>24750284Don’t be gross, anon, it’s not 2019 anymore.
>>24750296Meme is like '09, ma'am. I kid, of course, tis a bleuboard and no one wants to see that shit anyway. But why announce you are woman at all? Throw away thy vanity if seek wisdom...
>>24746113>Will studying philosophy actually grant me wisdom?No.>Or will it only grant me knowledge of other men’s opinions?Yes.>Will studying Plato’s writing on the soul give me wisdom on the nature of the soulNo. >or just knowledge of Plato’s opinions on the soul?Yes.
>>24747144>>24747955You're both wrong. No, I won't explain.
I would like to know what /lit/ considers their personal favourite or the definitive "best" English translations of Homer's Odyssey. I AM interested in both a verse and a prose translation. For the Illiad I have read both Fagles for verse, and Hammond for prose. I greatly enjoy Fagles verse and I value Hammond's for its accuracy and literal translation of the Greek. Though he often falls into dull descriptions, and lacks the life, energy, excitement, and tension that I have found in Fagles. Now, the Odyssey is ultimately a very different poem to the Illiad in many ways, and thus a great translator of the Illiad may not always make a great translator of the Odyssey. I have yet to read the Odyssey in full, only a handful of passages when I took a Homer module at University. I own Fagle's translation but would love some input on others before I start a full reading.
Ezra Pound, Canto I
>>24749792Fagles, obviously.
>>24749792this is missing Lattimore.
>mogs all that came before and after
With the Church now positioned against AI, what philosophers or prominent ideologies, besides accelerationists and techno optimists, remain on the side of AI?
>>24750234>>24750243I know what it says, I'm asking why. Can you try to explain it at all? Without murdering me and burning all my books, preferably
>>24750261You’re more willing to accept that Jesus is God than you are that Jesus is not the Holy Spirit?
>>24750263I never said that
>>24750274So what’s your foundation? What do you believe in so I have something to build upon. Or do you want to start with Genesis?
>>24750261I’m not trying to be snarky, but a creed is a statement of faith. There is a logic to the Trinity, but its exact realization is a Holy Mystery. I’m sorry for a frustrating answer; believers find it frustrating too, but also beautiful!I hope you’re asking because you’re genuinely interested in God, and not just posting for its own sake. I’m not trained in apologetics, and I’d be sceptical if anyone here claimed to be, and that’s probably why you’re finding it hard to get a worthwhile answer. You’re better off talking to a priest, or a browsing dedicated Catholic forum.
Luv me Shae, Luv me Food editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>24729508
>>24749340> its embarrassing to a Christian in a Christian culture to own slavesThe bible literally has rules in it for how to correctly beat your slaves. Americans used Christianity as a justification for their slavery as well.
>>24750084I'm not sure they're defiant about it but maybe.
>>24750100>rules in it for how to correctly beat your slaveswhich are> And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. 27And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake.
>>24750220>if you beat your slave too hard you have to let him go freeWow, what an enlightened philosophy.
>>24750280the Bible says that man-stealers get the death penalty. liberals think enslaving men is good
He was a good philosopher and I'm tired of pretending he wasn't.
>>24749494Maybe, but it also corresponds pretty well to reality in my experience, even if accidentally. Anyway, anon is right. India has basically adopted the western conceptions of eastern religion. Modern day easterners' conception of religion is just the western evangelists' and colonialists' misunderstandings, reappropriated. The ancient depth, meaning and complexity, if it was ever there, is gone.
>>24749494No i see legit reasons not to like them
>>24749494they fill up the internet with quantity that degrades it, and many western countries too. Their culture today is also largely connected and americanized. So I wouldn't call the dislike forced.The comment you're replying to is unwarranted though.
>>24748304This isn't a thread about his private life. And moralfagging is always just projection.
>>24748606Jung wasn't a Buddhist, dumbfuck.
>>24749325you are just mad because you have no money to spend
>>24749325Anon, just because you haven't seen the things I have doesn't mean I'm illiterate. You are literally retarded if this isn't an actual concern of yours.
>>24748883Magnets damage disk-based hard drives, the storage on ereaders is solid state.>>24749484Most ereaders are waterproof now, and I hate water damaged books
>>24748772nah.it's original book or pocket edition.
>>24748791Kindle for reading. Paperback for booktock. Hardcover for scholarship
Favourite opening lines in a book?"My name is Ishmael" - Hunting A White Whale, Henry Melville
>I am a sick man, I am a wicked man. An unattractive man>Mine has been a life of much shame. I can't even guess myself what it must be to live the life of a human beingWhich one did it best?
limbus faggots
SEE THE CHILD
best thread to collect passphrase down there...
>>24749533Ok I see him. Now what
I’ve read of Hemingway’s Paris. I’ve read of Borges’ Mexico City. Do “Literature Cities” still exist nowadays? I wouldn’t even say Paris or Mexico City are still bastions of the written arts.
>>24750055No there hasn’t, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>24748598It was never going to work because Melbourne is filled with too many wankers, like Waldun.
>>24750138Hmmmm, who was director of the National Library in Mexico City, ummmmm, I think his last name started with a B…. Fucking retard, thinks people can only be associated with one city.
>>24750203It’s not going to work because of all the Aussies, perhaps the most degenerate race on this planet.
>>24748598>Pic:rel*What Aussie /lit/ is.*What my Gr. 12 teacher made us read instead of Hamlet*Why I'm now a lunatic chud.
Post your own work and critique others.
>>24697242I'm writing a poem for a beautiful woman. Not going to post the whole thing. Give me some feedback on my writing. Here is the start of each stanza.Maiden fair, whose ruby hair, has left me breathless, without air,...Maiden sweet, whose ruby cheeks,has made my heart skip many beats,...Maiden bliss, whose ruby lips,I want to press against mine own and kiss,....
You should be ashamed of yourself. Absolute doggerel.
>>24749139This was for >>24749029. I'd better make that clear.
I have this burning feeling I am out there. My self, my true being, needs me and it pulls me but I am living its shadow and waiting and there are hands that push me downwards and watch me but never approach, never say hi, never let themselves be seen. And I suffer down here, where there is only one path to follow. Why shouldn’t I be loved? Why are you not holding my hand and lift me up for my eyes to see more, to come into being? I’m suffocating on this apple, is the kiss too far from me, is what others claim me to be, sick in this wrong world the only truth you see? Let me be part of the sky, let me breath and let me grow, this here is not my world and you know. Are the tools your pictures and calls the only warmth you can give me? Or is the horse in the race, someone worth to stay? What I need to grow cannot be found down here.
https://suno.com/s/qMGz1iiEkvD4gi1OIt's very deep, you wouldn't get it.