Okay, ive been sitting on this for months and i really cant anymore. im a production assistant at Bantam Spectra, been here for years. i am not going to post any proof because i actually want to keep my fucking job.The manuscript was delivered internally in January 2026. Not a partial. The actual full thing. GRRM apparently finished it sometime in late 2025 and the silence from his blog has been intentional, marketing told him to go dark.We have been in full editorial and layout pipeline since February. The official announcement is embargoed until Comic-Con, but we know hes going to announce it on his blog first because he doesnt give a fuck, with the actual release window being around fall. They want those holiday sales.The book is long, like long long, think AFFC and ADWD in one book, I wont say the word count because that alone would identify the source, but its about 1600 manuscript pages. People will not be disappointed on that front.The marketing team has been talking about a coordinated campaign that involves HBO so theres probably content planned to drop alongside the release, ill let you guys figure that out.Ill check this thread for a bit but i wont confirm or deny details that could identify me. Dont ask me stupid shit and yes jon is back lol
>>25207877I honestly don't understand the focus on Comic-Con. There's hundreds of them and it's not like everyone that goes to Comic-Con is interested (or can read lol) the books, most just cared about the show and will maybe watch a video on YouTube about the plot
99% chance this thread is bullshit In any case George is gonna have to live until 92-93 years old for us to get ADOS in any case...
>>25200054GRRM stated in a blog post that he had about 1400 manuscript pages done and that he was far from finished 1600 pages is sure as shit not the full length larpy larpy larper
>>25200411>>25201399>TWOW is now the QAnon of /lit/kek, somehow it's appropriate
>>25204280>Weakwingliterally turned 360° and walked out of that thread>>25205354Brown Ben Plumm and the Tattered Prince are executed but still alive 50 chapters later
>at 24, before kpop became a thing, if I approached a girl I got hurled racist slurs at>today at 34 I get to be threat profiled for being 'that old guy' at the bar or festival jfl.
>>25207908*given
>>25204054Porn, AI Girlfriends are the problem. Erasure of community and third spaces is the problem. The non socially proactive will, for 80% of the time, take the dopaminergic path of least resistance and watch porn. The rest of the time, in brief moments of relative lucidity, they will complain.The only hope is to change yourself to fit the new world we live in, adapt or die.Maybe bars aren't OP's venue, there are different spaces for different people, just try your best.
>>25207908>he doesn't know that all modern people under the age of 40 are literal bastard children who were born to slut mothers and slut embracing cuckold fathers.Sorry to break this to you, but only a tiny minority of women can afford to be single mommies. the rest will have to settle down with a cuckold beta ready to embrace the slut momma warmly
>>25207937>my mom is a whore so must be everyone else'sThat's some mighty projection
>>25207943not mine t.turd worlderDon't wish to sound racist, but when this was the trend for the past 50+ years, you know it's ovarida
Film Art: An Introduction by Bordwell and ThompsonHistory of Film Style by BordwellBreaking the Glass Armor by ThompsonCould keep going but they're absolutely perfect in understanding how and why movies work. I think once you get these down it's possible to go down any cinematic path you wish to study and it'll make perfect sense.
>>25206898aight i will have a look at la salamandre, i dont want to write fench new wave off completely, but i will never watch godard in particular again. There are many works inspired by french new wave that i like, but i just have a hard time getting warm with the original. I dont get the love for stalker too, found it lacking in many aspects, the book its based on was way better, same with solaris. But mirror is alright, way betterbut why do people make photos of the screen in the cinema, ever noticed?But i will try to hate less, my bloodpressure is at an all time high and everything lateley frustrates me and annoys me to no end, thats no way to live, no more hate now
Anyone in Japan interested in these books?1500¥ for Japanese Cinema and 4000¥ for Rashomon.
Fwiw I still wouldn't call myself a Godard fan but for some reason I really liked Pierrot Le Fou and that opened me up to watch more "shitty" new wave films and then I found directors like I guess the perfect example would be Alain Resnais who is very much considered part of the "new wave" but stylistically nothing like say Truffaut or Godard. All his movies are about time/perception/distorted memories. If you've ever seen 8 1/2 a lot of his movies are dreamlike like that. 'What is real, what is a dream?" This type of thing. >many works inspired by french new wave that i like, but i just have a hard time getting warm with the original100% agree actually. And this is why I also hated the genre for the longest time. I would literally watch really old French movies like IDK La Grande Illusion or something and newer ones but I NEVER watched anything from the late 50's or 60's because I thought it would all be pretentious juveline pseudo intellectual "critic turned film director" bullshit or something. >same with solaris. But mirror is alright, way betterAight anon, I actually kind of wanted to see Solaris at some point anyways since it gets compared to 2001 a lot, but I will watch Mirror instead. The IMDB synopsis makes it sounds pretty depressing ngl but I'll see it for sure.>but why do people make photos of the screen in the cinema, ever noticed?Idk I don't go that often, I only go if a specific movie (usually that I've already seen) is playing at my nearest art house cinema. The crowd is usually older normal "educated" people. >thats no way to live, no more hate nowI try to let it out in a positive way.
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
>>25203922It looks like Adam is getting cucked by Satan.Well I suppose he did, in a manner of speaking.
>>25204137Don’t wait any longer.
>>25205433In June they print the graded college poemsThe students write at their instructor's sayIn magazines that no one reads or ownsUntil they get past graduation dayAnd then develop morbid fondness forThe hasty sketches scribbled, unadornedBy technical ability galore,Finagled in a maple-tabled dormIf only I could could come up with a poemOr even just a sequence of haiku!I cannot for the life of me intoneA mellifluent verse to contributeJust clumsy pictures and overwrought proseComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25205433How about some translation? You can have this one. I'm never going to get round to doing him all and even if I did no-one would publish it.Noli admirari, quare tibi femina nulla,Rufe, velit tenerum supposuisse femur,non si illam rarae labefactes munere vestisaut perluciduli deliciis lapidis.laedit te quaedam mala fabula, qua tibi ferturvalle sub alarum trux habitare caper.hunc metuunt omnes, neque mirum: nam mala valde estbestia, nec quicum bella puella cubet.quare aut crudelem nasorum interfice pestem,aut admirari desine cur fugiunt.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25202370Is Hughes’ reimagining of Philomela a confession of abusing women?
I've repeatedly tried and failed to learn many languages but I have gotten the furthest with Latin (maybe one month of good studying, then my depression got worse and my schedule fell apart). I tried to learn German too but the language was frustrating me. It felt so completely vague and arbitrary if that makes sense. I think I found Latin easier overall than German.But HOW do you learn a language? What exactly do you do? What are the better courses/books to learn from? I hate video lessons and Anki, so that sort of stuff is unacceptable to me. I might get back into Latin again. I liked Familia Romana and the kind of way it teaches you a language, it didn't feel boring, I just lacked structure while studying it.
Writing a small list of the days of the week, and reading anything on wikipedia to find new words. I will spend weeks or months learning a little chunk of information only to forget when i am not torturing myself by reading something I'm not interested in that only applies whatever i studied perhaps by accident one in ninety times. When i had the best grip was being forced to communicate with non-english speakers in Spanish or Braxilian, but every other foreigner is basically an asshole and a dickhead who won't give me opportunities to practice, just the Spanish and Brazilians who can't do English.
Try the legentibus app fren. You will unironically love it
>>25201668Speaking For reading too because fluency is mainly with respect to communication. with Latin I might participate in That Dowling Ranieri experiment, or if he has a Latin LARPing community who speak Latin together I would use that, or attend a Latin mass. I would not gloss text all day because it's living in hell to translate and flip thru a dictionary for hours a day just to read something like "Oooh a pirate was on a boat, and Julius Caesar was there!" what a terrible waste of time juat to get spat on by foreigners and grifters.
I've been learning french via duolingo now for a year and I can say with confidence my reading is at least A2+/B1. I did study it at school for six years but I've learned more in the last year than I have in those six. I find immersion difficult; listening to podcasts, watching films with subtitles etc. just doesn't work for me. Anyone have tips for this??
>>25207443Looks good and each to their own but personally I wouldn't pay a nickel for language learning when there are so many good books for free online and google translate pronounces it for you.
Saturday EditionStubbed >>25197495>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25206595Nah, they're genuinely made using AI in chinese and then translated into english.
>>25207765is there a name for slop that gas been pre-digested and regurgitated through a sloppy translator?
>>25207781refried slop
>>25206599The collective unconscious is a powerful thing.
>>25203457You should plan the entire web novel before posting a chapter, and I hope you polish it before anyone sees it.
Why can’t female authors write men? Why is every book written by a woman centered around a woman crying about woman problems?
>He wondered this afternoon how many discouraged young men had sat here on the State House steps and watched the sun go down behind the mountains. Every one was always saying it was a fine thing to be young; but it was a painful thing, too. He didn't believe older people were ever so wretched. Over there, in the golden light, the mass of mountains was splitting up into four distinct ranges, and as the sun dropped lower the peaks emerged in perspective, one behind the other. It was a lonely splendour that only made the ache in his breast the stronger. What was the matter with him, he asked himself entreatingly. He must answer that question before he went home again.>The statue of Kit Carson on horseback, down in the Square, pointed Westward; but there was no West, in that sense, any more. There was still South America; perhaps he could find something below the Isthmus. Here the sky was like a lid shut down over the world; his mother could see saints and martyrs behind it.>Well, in time he would get over all this, he supposed. Even his father had been restless as a young man, and had run away into a new country. It was a storm that died down at last,—but what a pity not to do anything with it! A waste of power—for it was a kind of power; he sprang to his feet and stood frowning against the ruddy light, so deep in his struggling thoughts that he did not notice a man, mounting from the lower terraces, who stopped to look at him.From "One of Ours" by Willa Cather
>>25206888WHY IS THERE NO BOOK WRITTEN BY A WOMAN THAT JUST SAYS "GOOD BOY OMG ITS SO BIG" FOR 200 PAGES?
>>25207665I haven't read either of them, but I assume either anais nin or clarice lispector is like this. I don't read heterosexual female authors.
>>25206888Begging the question on /lit/ has to stop.
>>25207904lol you funny. wrong, but id wrestle you for a bottle of vodka.
Islington edition unironicallyPrevious >>25200011Here we discuss any kind of science fiction and fantasy. The recommendations are deprecated, but we don't have anything newer.>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
What are some non-Western fantasy books worth trying out? Non JRPG, please.
>>25207828Reverend Insanity
Any philosophical SF/F? Hard mode: no Bakker
>>25207628>>25207627Seconded. Walter Moers is amazing. I’d also suggest very early fairy tales like The Princess and the Goblin. Tailchaser’s Song is also a good standalone from Tad Williams that is highly entertaining.
>>25207158>>25207627See >>25207483
Why does he gets such a bad rep?
>>25204405Only from pseuds.
the audiobooks comfy than a mf idc what pseuds say
>>25204405redditoids think history can be empirically proven. History is closer to fiction than science
>>25204405I find the people critiquing it aren't generally reading intensely technical academic histories anyways. I finished the second volume a while ago and while it obviously isn't the most in depth resource you could get on any given time period, it's very enjoyable and feels like talking with an erudite and pleasant friend.
The criticism I've seen is very nit picky but they're correct to point out the errors. If you're reading it as an authoritative, up-to-date source on history then you will need something more modern. I consider myself above average when it comes to knowledge of Ancient Rome and Durant accurately hits every major event. He might misattritbute a quote or something but, as a reader, you're going to come out more knowledgeable than misinformed by reading Civilization.
>modern literature is dead>modern movies are garbage >modern media is just slopWhere do all the elite writes go now? How do they make a living?
>>25205371Power fantasy where the character gets stronger every plot beat, like in a video game
>>25205546So basically shonen mangas in literary form? Never realized that western manchildren haven't caught up with this japanese plot structure. Cool, thanks.
>>25203600Im not a partial time employed DMV worker. Im an ‘aristocrat of the soul.’
Bump
>>25203600It’s easy to fall prey to this narrative and not do much with your life. But I do agree that “high” artistry doesn’t get you much these days other than an aesthetic pleasure that most people won’t share with you( it’s more than enough for me, though)
Essential leftist literature?
>>25207784only the good parts
My diary desu(I am antonio gramsci)
>>25207769Nope.Trump's a communist retard like yourself lol>>25207767Actually I'm a trans woman :)I posted the commie hon because all communist trans women simply do not pass.Here's a picture of essentially every cuckold communist pigdog.
>>25207767communists and nazis are both incel loserswhen you have an ideology based around exploiting and enslaving others, you're gonna be an incel
>>25207866>>25207860ok lit friendsyou gonna let this level of unread idiocy on your board?
Good evening /lit/,I'm looking for places to talk about literature with people who don't care about inflating their internet identity. I like /lit/ but the incel stuff is a bit too much for me.I'm very new here so maybe I can just learn to ignore the incel stuff like it's a tic that they can't control.Anyway I appreciate any suggestions, thank you.
>>25207747No but I recently read A Very Easy Death by de Beauvoir which was very good. I chose that picture to attract the right posters. How about you?
>>25207768I see, I’ve never read her myself, nor have I Sartre actually. Honestly, I read what the thread topic is before looking at the image (on an imageboard no less). I just finished reading Dead Souls, it was as brilliant as it was surprisingly funny. I’m going to get through some of Gogol’s short stories and then who knows what next.
>>25207787I haven't read much Russian stuff. Only a little bit of Chekhov and some Dostoyevsky. The names make it so hard to follow
>>25207763No one is going to ruin civilization to placate your whims, sorry. You might as well kill yourself now.
>>25207834you and your maga ilk already have.thanks i guess
300 pages in…. When does it get good?
Try to make it to the Eschaton chapter though, probably one of the best chapters in the whole book.
>>25207201>the Joelle chapter.That, right on the hysterical cusp where internalized rage can so easily shift to externalized rage, the mother had hurled the -pH flask at the Daddy, who'd reflexively ducked; and that the rotter, one Orin, right behind, a former tennis champion with superb upper-body reflexes, had instinctively ducked also, leaving Madame Psychosis — dazed and bradykinetic from the sudden venting of so many high-pressure repressive family systems — open for a direct facial hit, resulting in the traumatic deformity. And that it had been everyone's failure to press any charges that had liberated the mother from Southeast-KY custody and allowed her access once again to her home's kitchen, where, apparently despondent, she committed suicide by putting her extremities down the garbage disposal — first one arm and then, kind of miraculously if you think about it, the other arm.>first one arm and then, kind of miraculously if you think about it, the other arm.I think about this a lot
It’s nice to see some geniune DFW discussion here, all I’ve been seeing lately is endless bashing by people who haven’t read him.
>>25207353not that one, the first one. the best chapter in the entire book
The chapter where he talks about how absolutely fucked and desperate you have to be to decide that joining a cult like organization like AA is not only reasonable but your only hope has always stuck with me.
>awful prose>stole ideas from everybody>never invented his own formula>was neither celebrated nor respected during the years of his life>only became celebrated later in his life because someone wanted to profit off his works and peddle his own garbage>is celebrated so much that people are willingly turning their head from his disgusting bigotryexplain to me the lovecraft phenomena. CAS is infinitely better.
>>25207759>bigotry nowhere to be found in his actual work except maybe horror at red hookCoils of the Medusa had such a hilarious twist at the end it felt like reading a parody of lovecraft
>>25207106CAS's prose was better, and his fantasy cycles were better than the Dream Cycle, but if you're going to sing his praises you have to bear in mind that he liked Lovecraft's work. There's a reason for that. Lovecraft's contemporary horror stories were generally the strongest of the weird tales scene.
>>25207783>a parody of lovecraftit probably was since he ghostwrote it for some woman
>>25207843The Dream Cycle is underrated. Most people I hear from say it's vastly inferior to his Cthulhu mythos stories (the fuck's the difference anyways, the Elder Gods are mentioned frequently in the Dream Cycle).
This is the definitive collection if you want to read the entire Dream Cycle BTW.
What are some certified noided books?
>>25205932noidnounfrom the Greekνους meaing mind1. person who identifies purely with their mind instead of their body2. an intellectual who lives in complete abstraction from all sense experience3. a subjective mind in itself
>>25205932timaeus
>>25207707>heavily expurgatedWhat did they remove?
>>25207874>What did they remove?I don't know, I just know the book as it is published is significantly shorter than his entire Exegesis corpus. (It's 3k pages vs like 40k pages or summat crazy like that.)The fact that it says "edited" on the cover should have given you a clue.
>>25206532VALIS is a cognitohazard. I felt deeply uneasy whilst reading that book, and I'm a big Dickhead. It's disturbing on a spiritual level.
