>hates allegory in literature>likes the metamorphosisExplain.
>>24985583That's cool that you know Kafka's intent.
>>24985229>>24985178is english an inferior language? being described as a bug like being and being a bug are totally different
>>24985175metamorphosis doesn't have to be read allegorically, and if you read kafka's other works, he is less allegorical and more weird than you'd think. although he definitely was inspired by the style of allegories to some extent.when discussing metamorphosis with people I know, it's always the ones who want to make it about the modern man or whatever that fail to remember the most important details, because they are unique to Gregor, like the frame in his room which he made.>>24985598>Why do some good artists and philosophers and such have random retarded opinions about fundamental aspects of human experience?nabokov hates generalities which allegories deal in, and he likes stories with particularity of style, detail, character etc which, if not completely antithetical to an allegory's intent (though particularity does hinder universality), is less important.
>>24985806Explain the meaningful difference for the purposes of Metamorphosis
>>24985175
The book I have enjoyed the most this year has been The Unbearable Lightness of Being. In it, the author seeks to describe what it means for an individual to accept or reject the responsibilities that arise in their life.Specifically, it describes two lifestyles. On the one hand, there is a life that accepts responsibility. This life is more grounded, connected to the earth, and experiences life in its fullness, since many of its actions have an impact on the world—to the point that the weight of those actions can end up crushing the individual to the ground. On the other hand, a life of lightness enjoys its own existence by avoiding any responsibility in order to focus on oneself, even though this life ultimately feels a sense of unease when realizing that all its actions end up being insignificant in the face of the world.In summary, the idea that responsibilities make us more or less connected to the world around us has surprised me greatly.What book have you enjoyed the most this year?
The Wager - GrannThe Wall - Haushoferthe Sweet Science - Lieblingthese are probably the three i enjoyed the most
>>24984129I love Kudera bookzI don't think they're about anything. Just being a boomer, having the secks and enjoying the good life.
>>24984492Sounds gay af my nigger I'd rather watch grass grow and paint dry
>>24984706>I've read a great quantity of books this year, as I consciously tried to give my life a more "productive" direction. Ultimately, I ended up treating every book as a merchandise to be consumed, "done with". I enslaved myself to the numbers in a spreadsheet; as a result, I can't say I've authentically enjoyed a book in this year of Our Lord (most of the time it felt like a duty I had to fulfill).This should be the sticky for this pseudointellectual insecurity board
>>24985105Blindness, 100%.
Discuss good narrative history books on any subject.
>>24986544I used to read that stuff but now find that reading well-researched historical novels is just more fun. Then I end up looking up proper non-popular historical research anyway.
>>24986936He makes some perfunctory woke noises but that's all. It's mandatory to get anything published unfortunately, so you as a reader have to learn to distinguish between actual woketard writing vs a writer going through the motions to appease the publishing gatekeepers.
Destiny of the Republic was great read, the Netflix miniseries was meh but it did lead me to the book.
>>24986732>For a millennium, though, their history has largely been filtered through the writings of their victims.So for a thousand years they pillaged and raped, but it's wrong to judge them for this?
1066: The Year of the Conquest by David Howarth
>Translations are not reading>It is easy>You can not utilise English without French>Women will fawn over you>You might get a French gf
>>24987234Remove 120,000,000 people and the majority is still non-white, even if we assume the US and all of Europe is 100% white. Ain't much better bud
>>24987254>Remove 120,000,000 people and the majority is still non-whiteNot in terms of native speakers. And considering we're talking about literature, native speakers is a better measure of that literature's racial make-up.
>>24987289Alright niggerman, I'm not doing the math for you to shift the goal post again
>>24987234>>24987289extreme cope
>>24987234English isn't just another language within India. It's used as a lingua franca and is the official language of numerous states and political institutions. There are major incentives within India to learn English, so the number of speakers is only going to rise. >The Indians who come to the west struggle to speak EnglishThey struggle because they speak Indian dialects of English and have never had to consider how that differs from what's considered standard English.
Dastardly New Age Edition>Old:>>24975110>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24987044>So is there a reason why Icarium is so powerfulhe taps into the chaos warren and is the son of an elder god. karsa has suspicions who his mother is.
>>24985317I have never read any DnD novels. My fantasy reading is confined to heavy Tolkien (LoTR, Silmarillion, History of Middle Earth) + lots of self published stuff from the early kindle era + a few dragon age novels + Rothfuss (fuck him). I have been hankering for some classic sword and sorcery stories though. So I figure Drizzt is a good story to jump into (was debating either that or Conan). Though at 40 novels given all other reading goals for the year might not happen completely. We shall see.
>>24987044I mean he is the son of probably the most powerful character in the series - Gothos and his brother is Raest who once won a 1v5 fight against dragons
I read two books of Robert Jordan's Conan book and I did not like either one bit. I've liked a few other pastiche books here and there so it's not as if I'm an REH purest or anything but good god things just plod and the way he tries to make everyone talk in YE OLDE fashion is both inconsistent and excruciating. There's just a staggering lack of focus and even though each novel was only 160 give or take it felt like it was so much longer with so little happening.Would not recommend, will probably not read the third novel in this collection any time soon.
these Vorkosigan books are so silly. do I just not like to have fun??
There is much a man might learn from the minds of women, were he willing to lay aside pride and hear them with humility.
>>24986404>Were he willing to lay aside prideAnd common sense, and basic decency, and humanity. You don't listen to subhumans or subhuman enablers, Anon. Down that road lies madness.
>>24987036But this is what women mean when they say something's missing from male writers. Few are willing to admit the female urge to cuckold their husbands. Her instinct is to mould her husband into a beta bitch then cheat on him after wondering where the attraction went, and does not even consider the idea that she did it herself.
>>24986404Freemasonic thread
>>24986748How many of the philosophers in OP's pic argued for abortion?
hello world
You do have a basic understanding of how human language works, don't you?
>>24987025I'll take bloated over passive-aggressive and patronising
>>24987042Just because I’m reduced to venting my frustration and deep self-resentment in passive-aggressive 4chan posts doesn’t make what I said less true
>>24986658The book keeps building up and up. It starts out with a short history and purpose of linguistics. Then introduces you to an oversimplified and intuitive model of syntax.Then it's like "Consider these new sentences (new data). They are problematic for our current model / Our model needs changesbecause clearly it can be more accurate."So then you make some small changes to your model/understanding and you actually have a reason for the changes instead of it coming out of nowhere. You slowly build up to a modern and precise theory of syntax.
>>24985112Well grammar was the only college course I aced without any studying whatsoever. As soon as I learned the terminology and understood the sentence diagrams I was just showing up and completing the exercises with no effort.
Easy Parsing And Analysis Book by J. C. Nesfieldhttps://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.272041/page/n29/mode/1upPrinciples of general grammar. Comp. and arranged for the use of colleges and schools by Roemer, Jeanhttps://archive.org/details/principlesgener00roemgoogPrinciples of general grammar : adapted to the capacity of youth, and proper to serve as an introduction to the study of languages by Silvestre de Sacy, A. I. (Antoine Isaac)https://archive.org/details/principlesgener00sacygooghttps://archive.org/details/parsingbookcont01weldgooghttps://archive.org/details/parsingsimplifi00unkngooghttps://archive.org/details/classbookofparsi00yeagComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
One year anniversary of elite readership
>>24985972>yikersfoid take. disregarded.
the irony is /lit/ has gotten way less "elite" over the last several years, genre slop "generals" and a bunch of wannabe writers shilling trash. that article might have been funny/true ten years ago.
why are women so fucking stupid and annoying? if didn't have this stupid unconscious biological impulse to have sex with them i'd never want to be around one again.
>>24985966Some people are built different, they are capable of having original thoughts. No amount of reading can teach you this, it doesn't matter if you're a Classics PhD or Anonymous.
>>24985979>ten years ago.at the latest. the election did a real number on this board
Why do you put faith in metaphysical claims that can't be empirically tested? Are you just a science-ignorant caveman?
>>24987308Is it observable what “intersects with observable reality”?
>>24987218This is not tradition and never was. It's revolution by a progressive (pedo) cult of personality. The closest thing to tradition in Islam is Sufi.
>>24987308So you’ve once again made an unobservable universal claim. Do you not see how you are refuting yourself?
>>24987304Your experience is conjured, your senses are a hallucination created from your brain, according to the materialist position. That is by definition conjured, anything that is conjured cannot be what conjures, that is a logical impossibility, in the same way an effect cannot be the cause of itself or a projection cannot be projecting itself. That's why it's self-refuting, what you think of as the "body" and the "brain", according to your very own position, is a hallucination, how can a projection be that which projects the illusion?>experiencing is the material operation of a biological structureNo, no one is experiencing that. When you experience pain, you experience the qualitative experience of pain, you do not experience the quantitative physical markers for pain. When you experience love, you experience the qualitative experience of love, not the quantitative physical markers of love. This is the exact reason why AI is not conscious nor will it ever be. This type of thinking is what caused the AI bubble and lead morons to thinking the chatbot they're speaking to is conscious. If what you said was true AI would eventually become conscious through enough complex physical interactions. No amount of phsyical interactions will you ever get that because the experience of the physical world IS qualitative. You don't think when you have a dream that the physical objects in your dream are really real do you? Are there actually people in the radio? Is there actual depth to a painting or movie? It should not be a hard leap to make, after all if you're a materialist, by logical necessity you must think there is a world separate from the senses, if that is true than the senses are deceiving, they are conjured. You must think the brain creates a qualitative experience, that being the case, the "brain" and "body" is part of this illusion the brain creates, as well as the rest of the physical world. That being the case, how could the separate world which the senses are the projection of possibly be physical when the physical world IS the projection? Why would you think there is any truth in what's inherently deceiving? Your entire worldview is built on sand.>>24987308Observable reality IS metaphysical, it is an impression or image of metaphysical reality.
>>24987385then the senses are deceiving*
Smile, /lit/! You’re doing the rounds on xitter againhttps://x.com/andrewchen/status/2005289538189738278?s=46
>>24985013Did you go at it blind first, or with the skeleton key as you did it?
>>24982152>schools, popular social movements, and even the government in most cases teach you to be hedonist, nihilist, and a moral relativistNo they don't.>rise in youth religionAlso not happening. Go outside. Get off the internet. Talk to people and breath fresh air.
>>24987055Dude loves reading about ancient Jewish laws around how much money your daughter is worth to marry her to her rapist and how your daughter should be stoned to death on your doorstep if you marry her off as a non-virgin.
>>24978972>I like small niche thing/community>I am compelled to share small niche thing/community I like with millions of strangers from whom I can derive absolutely no benefit materially or psychologically that have ruined absolutely everything else they’ve been allowed to touchI will NEVER understand this impulse.
>>24987336Yes. Greek and Norse texts about the exact same thing too.
Through the years literature and humanities have only brought me poverty and bleakness. If I only had a liking to maths, I would be better off in life. Can you force yourself to like maths? Anyone else in this predicament? I don’t think I’ve ever more than a handful of times used directly, referenced or discussed what I learned reading on a social setting to outweigh the negatives. I feellike all of this isn’t really worth it in the end.
>>24984122>getting back problems at 26 due to working at a deskCan't relate, since I worked as a "field engineer" (read: guy who fixes big machines) during all of my summer internships and after graduating college.t. guy with a MechE degree who also reads history books and gay novels for fun
>>24984784Go pick up a guy at a Warhammer40k convention or tournament. The guys there are turbovirgins and have a good income (otherwise they wouldn't be able to afford Warhammer).>>24987274It's not, but that is the purpose of math - to make things easier to understand.>>24987119It's not a meme, but finding a job in it is hard. Real robotics with outside of research stuff tends to just be upgraded manufacturing.>>24987016>>24986813Programming is a good skill to have though. It will eventually become like writing where everyone will be expected to be able to do some scripting. Simple formal logic will absolutely be mandatory to graduate from high school.I wouldn't call programming soulless, but it's the most mentally draining thing I've done. Everything about that job is mentally difficult. You're constantly learning new shit (that then becomes obsolete in a 5-10 years) while trying to use it to solve problems that you haven't solved before. Day in and day out. There's never a point where you go "ok, I got the hang of it and now I'm cruising." There's always some new thing you have to learn.
>>24987327Damn that's really sad but I wish you didn't mention he killed himself so I could dunk on him>>24987337The petit bourgeois have a role in the capitalist system. I don't believe in capitalism but I don't hate it enough on an ideological religious marxist kind of way, so I certainly desire upper middle-class life.>slightly unrelated personal rantMany wagies start failed businesses yes but people have retarded business sense and do not understand credit. I just saw a Dave Rubin clip of a couple who have over a million in business credit card debt trying to start a summer camp. Most new business are frenzied manic episodes that can last weeks to months and I know this because that was literally all the endeavors I got into from 17-20. But I never straddled myself with debt so every failed business only got me 3 months of embarrassment from everybody I ranted about the business to. You have infinite attempts if you have grindset and enough liquid capital (from wage slaving). My eventual dream is to own a publishing house nested in my own private school so I can have my own hermetically sealed community of idealogues
>>24987272>STEM-medLiterally the only STEM paths that are still kinda profitable after AIpocalypse are:>civil engineering>mechanical/electrical engineering (especially if working on utilities)>chemical engineering (if you're working for Dupont or something)Math is only useful if you either do something like optimizing missile trajectories for the US DoD (which you still need an Operations Research MSc or above in order to get into), and Physics is really only useful if you go into something like semiconductors or optics, but otherwise nobody is really working on pure math or pure physics for money.The one field that has lost the most utility and profitability is Computer Science, now that everybody and their gay dad can run Claude/ChatGPT/Grok/Gemini and write enterprise-level software, leaving Computer Science degree holders with the only distinction of knowing more proofs on the Theory of Computation than the average man. It's only a matter of time before they start poaching on EE and ME too, the way they've also been doing to artists and graphic designers, and I honestly believe that the only jobs that will last the longest will be the ones involving giving orders and supervising a bunch of underpaid workers (say, in construction or manufacturing) simply because it's cheaper than buying a robot to do the same job, and while there are people who will have their doubts about it, I say all occupations will be at risk of being automated for as long as business owners care more about maximizing profits over giving good workers a liveable wage and setting hard limits on what should be left up to automation.
>>24987379I don't hate capitalism either. I think it's neat, but every time people talk about capitalism they look at the people who won big. They completely ignore all the people who started businesses but failed or are struggling.I hate how stifling regulation is. Doing business in a video game is fun. You would think it would be similar in real life, but it's not. It's not because everything has a million rules and you're expected to pay someone hundreds or thousands of dollars to tell you whether you can do what you want to do legally. Like you can't even write a web novel and get Patreon bucks without jumping through legal hurdles. It's so stupid.
How come the rate of readership keeps declining but Barnes and Noble just keeps getting more popular over time
Indigo is infinitely superior.
>>24982655>zoomers>”offline”lol even
>>24982655>Ironically, they got the idea to read more from social mediaHow dare you. I've been a life-long bibliophile.
>>24982802Get an e-reader faggot.
>>24986604Which?
>This is how we recognize the man who has tendencies toward an inner quest: he will set failure above any success, he will even seek it out, unconsciously of course. This is because failure, always essential, reveals us to ourselves, permits us to see ourselves as God sees us, whereas success distances us from what is most inward in ourselves and indeed in everything.Does this autist have a point? Are failures more conducive to moral salvation than success? Is my loser life finally going to be of some use?
>mfw I'm about to enter the new year reading Cioran
>>24984571This board and the rest of the site is full of aging millennial sois.
>>24984812Pretty based, Anon. Cioran is for chads.I wish you joyful new year reading ecstatic over the top pessimism of the guy that tells it like it is and reminds us that we are not alone in this darkness of creation that we love to hate recursively.
>>24986062Happy new year to you too, anon
>>24984553Damn that's a funny quote
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
>>24982137This is an actionable threatPunishable by UK lawWritten by a yank
>>24950975I finally understood this stanza by H.D.>All Greece hates >the still eyes in the white face, >the lustre as of olives >where she stands, >and the white hands.The lustre as of olives is Helen's tan she got on her legs, signifying her elopement. Her face is still white because she was disguising herself, and her hands are white because she did nothing.
>>24986316How does one recognize understanding when it comes? Why do you think it did?
>>24986735Same as anything else clicking into place, it's a holistic combination of circumstances. Coming back to something after engaging with it intensively always results in improved understanding, given enough rest, due to a specific intention working through the subconscious.Or so I think. It's really just what I think the poem means, although in this case it explains what confused me and is obvious in hindsight as well based on the narrative. And it's the way HD writes it, without directly referencing the legs (as if the Greeks are loath to think about what they did), that made me wonder, but another person may see it immediately.
>>24950975alguna recomendación de como escribir poesía en español
On December 4th, George R R Martin handed in a finished manuscript of Winds of Winter. I took notes as I reviewed the book. I did not read it in full and in depth, but skimmed for my job. I expect the news to break next week, so here's the rough story by chapter for all my buddies here.There are 96 chapters. I will summarize each one briefly. Sadly the storyline does somewhat follow the show.>Epilogue - Forley PresterPOV is a knight of Lannister escorting Rob's wife and Uncle to Casterly Rock. Snows have slowed them down so they are weeks late. One night a wolfpack led by Arya's wolf attacks the host killing everyone>Chapter 1 - Daenerys IDany is being 'escorted' by the Dothraki back to Vaes Dothrak for judgement. She sent away Drogon and was caught, but the dragon is circling. She is considering her fate all the while the dragon circles overhead. Her thoughts about Mereen and her Brother continue to develop and shape the rest of the book.>2 - Cersei IIn the aftermath of Kevan's death, Cersei is completely shut down with rage feeling powerless. Mace arrived the morning of and put the castle under protective lockdown and Cersei is 100% convinced that Margery is fucking Tyrion, and planning on killing Tommen. Cersei is banned from seeing Tommen given her trial and she is also convinced the Tyrells killed Jamie. Qyburn does his best to manage her as the trial approaches
>>24987261>Chapter 24 - Melisandre IINews comes to Castle Black that the dead are climbing over the walls and 'ice spiders' have appeared. She sees the others in the flames and is unable to see a future now, including Stannis's current fate. She speaks with Queen Selyse who is sending ravens and messengers south to have Stannis return. Mel suggests a blood sacrifice and looks at Val. Selyse agrees.>Chapter 25 - Asha IIIThe seige of Winterfell begins with the Boltons seemingly undermanned without the Freys and Manderleys. Stannis receives a messenger who brings the skulls of the spearwives out, to show what agents of his get and he should surrender to the Botlons. Stannis challenges Ramsey to 1 on 1 combat and insults him to the messenger. Its revealed Roose has left to return to the Dreadfort to 'gather more forces' for Winterfells defense, which Asha considers cowardly. Theon notes the move is actually incredibly smart as Ramsey is now weak and Winterfell is exposed, and it means nothing without a Stark. Stannis asks Theon how they made it into Winterfell, which Stannis has the Mountain men do - grappling hooks. The undermanned Winterfell has the same weaknesses and Stannis makes it inside and captive Ramsey is brought to him. Ramsey demands the combat, which he quickly loses. Stannis then claims victory and will celebrate by executing Theon.
>>24987280>Chapter 26 - Sam ISam is studying hard with the Sphinx to understand the Others with the information at the citadel. The Sphinx is protective of Sam and is constantly questioning him about what he knows about Dragons. Sam leaks some info about dragons he learned from Castle black, including the theory that they can be controlled with horns. He mentions his broken horn. News comes in the Red Wyne fleet is approaching but the City Guard are to hold here. Many of the Maesters doubt the power of the Iron Born. Sam learns the Others are believed to be death incarnate and were worshiped by the first men. The chapter ends with him being 'arrested' for stealing a key.>Chapter 27 - Damphair/Aeron IIEuron is sailing his fleet out to meet the Red Wyne fleet, with Aeron still strapped to the front. Euron begins rythmic chanting as arrows fly killing the hostages including Euron's pregnant girlfriend. He has visions of the drowned God who tells him Euron is working with old magic he does not understand. Aeron begins screaming his name as an arrow from the Red Wyne fleet pierces his chest. His last thoughts as he dies is that he can smell burning meat.
>>24987285>Chapter 28 - Cersei IITrial day begins with a whimper as word comes out that Aegon is marching upon King's landing. Mace Tyrell appoints Nymeria Sand to oversee Cersei's trial as the Reach folks begin to plan defenses, including Randyl Tarly. Margery's trial is to be held the day after. Cersei's champion faces off against a Knight of the Faith, Wells, who is immediately killed by Robert Strong. Cersei, seemingly restored by this win, begins to plot about killing all her foes. She learns that Randyl Tarly and Margery have vanished ahead of the trial. Mace is infuriated and threatens Cersei. Robert Strong then brutally kills Mace which Cersei becomes incredibly aroused by.>Chapter 29 - Arya IIArya awakens in the House of the Undying and is brought to them for her crime. She is questioned about her motives and pushed even further. They then reveal they know she was never one of them, but much like a mask she is one of their tools. They will continue to train her but she will never be one of them. She is ok with this result, but afraid of what they have planned for her.>Chapter 30 - Theon IITheon is preparing for death with his thoughts and much of it is him replaying all his errors. He's then brought to the God's wood where Lady Barbey reveals he was instrumental for the downfall of Ramsey. It turns out Lord Manderly knew the Starks were alive via Theon's squire who told Manderly about the missing swords, and that's why Lady Barbey wanted in the crypts. Theon helped prove the missing blades thus that the Starks are not all dead. Theon breaks down and asks for forgiveness. Stannis offers him peace as Asha watches on - and Theon is finally killed.>Chapter 31 - Aero Hotah IAero, Doran's guard, is present as all current events are recounted: Mace and Keven are dead, Aegon has taken Storms End and marches on King's Landing, Stannis has taken Winterfell, and the Red Wyne fleet has won against Euron and the Iron Men. Doran is troubled that word from Arianne has not returned to him, just a note that she is with Aegon on his march. Word comes in that Dark Star was last seen moving north as well after stealing the house Dayne sword. This came off as filler tbqh>Chapter 32 - Brienne IBrienne and Jamie square off, Brienne armed with the Valyrian blade. Jamie taunts the reluctant Brienne who is contemplating suicide by Lannister for her betrayal of him, but Jamie is still so bad it's hard to throw the fight. She gets a lucky shot and knicks his leg causing him to start to bleed out. Lady Stoneheart, clutching the crown, goes to Jamie as he's dying. Brienne is horrfiied but Thoros is happy that order is restored. Lady Stoneheart whispers something to him as he dies, then kisses him.
>>24987341>Chapter 33 - Barristan IIAs Barristan plans the hopeless defense, he has to deal with Vicatrion who demands Dany. Despite reality, the Iron Born captain is convinced she is on her way via the red priest - something Barristan doesnt believe. The sacrifice of the slavers ended the pale mare infection ravaging Mereen but Barristan knows without the Iron Born they have no choice. Only Rhaegal seems to remain around the city and he has been acting strangely. Chapter ends with him calling for Tyrion's help.>Chapter 34 - Jamie IIJamie awakens from death with Lady Stoneheart's words echoing thru his head. She seemingly said 'defend them'. He is not sure what it means. Brienne is release and Wight Jamie is puzzled about his new state. He is not angry at Brienne anymore but is at Cersei and others. The Brotherhood releases them all and they are not sure. Jamie has a dream about Jon's rebirth as 4 wolves surround the pyre he arises from. He realizes 4 stark children are alive and mistakes Jon for Ned Stark (the words used are frozen and black, so it's ned). Brienne, Jamie, Pod and Hunt decide to head North to look for the Starks.
>>24987359>Chapter 35 - Arianne IIIAegon's host emerges from the King's Wood to find more Tyrell Forces... surrendering. Lead by Ranyl Tarly they present Margery Tyrell as hostage to Aegon. Arianne is concerned about the new competition. They learn that Cersei now barely holds the city with Tommen after Mace's death. Aegon is confident about victory and wishes to be crowned in the Sept of Baelor by the High Sparrow. Arianne convinces him to kill Tommen first as there's been too many pretender Kings already. Dark Star arrives and pledges his support to Aegon. Arianne, nervous about the Reach influence, requests Aegon pardon Dark Star and add him to his King's Guard, which Aegon does. Jon Con is upset about this and blames Arianne, and Jon is seemingly getting angrier by the day.
