Why did Harold Bloom lie about Harry Potter? Did he not know people could compare his comments with the books themselves.To tell you the truth, it makes me doubt his veracity as a critic as a whole. How can I trust him on anything?
>>25186080he read 400 pages an hour, you're bound to get a detail or two a little wrong. the greater point is still true.
>>25186080He was so right about Harry potter if you read it it's shit.Its unhealthy to read sloppa
>>25186080>nooooo not my heckin wholesome harry chungus wizardslopThe people who read harry potter are not reading literary criticism, so I don't see the issue. OP is reacting to le viral twitter maymays on 4chan instead of replying to the post he saw on the goycattle app
>>25186225What does this post have to do with twitter you schizo? People have been “No!” posting on 4chan since before you were born
Has anyone actually read this?Is there any value in it or is it just a meme?
It's actually good. Ignore the contrarians.
>>25181713I read this one instead 2 years ago but now I'm realising I remember nothing about it. I gave it 2 stars on Goodreads. Moments like this make me want to kill myself, why do I even read?
>>25181966Retard>>25181713I've never felt a need for this kind of thing. Some of the advice in it that I've heard others repeat (especially regarding annotation) seems bizarre and pointless.
People overcomplicate the simplest shit. Just read the book and your mind will parse the information for you.
>>25186127The basic premise is that reading should be considered an art/skill and that most people stop developing their skills at reading at the elementary level. Many people ho through their lives thinking basic competence is sufficient. And maybe it is for some, but you can also go further than that if you desire.
What books do they read?
>>25186287Mein Kampf
>>25186287Musk probably reads Andy Weir, Kanye likes The Bible, Tate flat out says reading is for nerds and a waste of time, and I don't think Trump is a huge reader aside from the Wall Street Journal in the 70s and 80s
The subtle art of not giving a f*ck
>>25186294>Kanye likes The BibleEither he has not bothered reading the whole thing or just doesn't understand it. Many such cases.
>>25186287>>25186287>>25186287
The universe will continue to spread and spread outward. Entropy will turn a chaotic infinity into a homogeneous controlled system. This will take billions of years and in that time humans will push technology to heights we can't imagine. We'll explore and inhabit space and occupy more and more of the universe, just as time allowed our ancestors to multiply in numbers and populate more and more of the Earth. And as the specific people come and go, their physical bodies will be born, and grow, and die. But their thoughts will remain. And Jim Davis' comics, his glorious Garfield comics, are recorded ideas of his that will still be here. Even when the Earth is no longer inhabitable, and humanity has long since moved away to bigger planets, they'll carry with them a record, a record we all keep ... a never-ending feed of ideas, immortal ideas, forever placed in the ether of dualism.
>>25186286I hate mondays
>>25186299
I remember school and university, where trying to get good grades and paying attention in class made teachers and other students think I'm a nerd, when I would actually just study, say, math on my own, with a tutor, in class, read about it online and still barely pass exams and testsI easily learned english as a child, but when it came to learning a third foreign language in school I was very below average, one of the worst students in my group, it was humiliatingI've now tried to learn a few languages (French, German, Latin, Spanish, Russian, probably a few others I've forgotten too) and I've struggled with them a lot, even studying every day for 3 hours (I did manage to keep up that pace) would generally not net me anything. it doesn't help that there are so many charlatans in the language learning "hobby space" that you don't even know what "method" to use while learning a language. probably the worst thing is that language learning communities are full of intelligent people who have many languages under their belts and this is their special interest and you can't compare yourself to themI like reading books and don't really like video games or TV, so I spend a large chunk of my free time reading. I know a bit about history, philosophy, things like this which automatically make other people think you're intelligent, but it's a bit of an illusion and I've disappointed pretty much every teacher I've had in my life. in general I am a pretentious failure who is well read enough, knows about history, philosophy and thinks he's intelligent, so I can discuss things with other people, but honestly, with the philosophy that I've read it's more that I memorized the logic but don't actually understand anything at all. it would take one actually intelligent person who's read enough as me to show that I'm just a complete fraud and retardI'm too stupid and lazy to ever learn another language
>>25181712>Speech and language are core intelligence domains. They are assessed during IQ testing.IQ has nothing to do with "speech and language," there are strong IQ tests that don't use words at all. Aside from that, a person who knows only 100 words but recognizes the relationship between them will score higher on an IQ test than a person who knows 50000 words but doesn't.It's true that since public education became a thing, there has been a huge accent put on words... but that's mainly because words don't count for much ergo not dangerous. The unfortunate side effect is that we have all kinds of aggressive retards prancing about abusing people using words as an excuse... pronouns much?Also>reddit spacingLol.
>>25180947literally me
>>25180947I'm not even that. Not well read, not even intelligent. How do I become that?
>>25184858>here's 2 paragraphs explaining why I can't explain something that I totally definitely 100% understandJust say you're retarded next time.
>>25180947>with the philosophy that I've read it's more that I memorized the logic but don't actually understand anything at allI feel like most people do that haha
Thrice greatest edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>25103936>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
Anyone else cried when reading Crito by Plato?
>>25186197I don't remember so for Crito, the end of the Phaedo though got me a bit
>>25186197>>25186257For me it is Apologia>I go to my death and you go on to life. Who goes to the better place is only for the gods to say.
>>25186261it's only sad if you didn't get the ioke
Where are /lit/ people in real life? How do I get a book club of people as autistic as me and the people on /lit/? I don't mean faggots who read Cormac McFaggot or retards who vaguely like Socrates. I mean the schizo who learned Greek to read Proclus in the original while working at a taco restaurant and not getting laid for 14 years. I only want severely autistic friends.I will never, ever use Discord for any reason. I will never talk to anyone who uses Twitter for any reason. I want /lit/ friends in real life. I can't take it anymore. All the "smart" people I know are STEM PhDs who watch retarded documentaries about quantum physics and then get high and spitball wacky ideas in their “free time”. It's NOT ENOUGH. Reality itself seems thin and alien. I joined a Plato reading group and it was just 120 IQ midwit normies who wanted to sprinkle a dash of Plato on their otherwise normal lives. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. I don't want to talk about basic bitch podcast Stoicism once every few months with a laser biochemist who hates talking about his own work and doesn't give a shit about science or anything but ordering junk on amazon and exercising. I don't want to talk to WOMEN about Jane Austen because I read Jane Austen just to have something real to talk about and I was excited they also read Jane Austen, only to find out that they are "1917"-watching mental children who read Jane Austen the same way they watch "Severance." I don't want to read Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason so I can talk to some positivist faggot who thinks it’s about empirical cognition, just to find out his entire reading is based on reddit posts. I don't want to talk to “””atheists””” who parrot Hitchens and haven’t read a word of Augustine, because they think the RETARDED EVANGELICALISM they were raised in is the summit of theism. I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO SOI-DISANT PHILOSOPHERS WHOSE KNOWLEDGE OF EVERYTHING THEY BUILD THEIR GAY IDENTITY ON COMES FROM SUMMARIES AND DUMBASS FUCKING BLOGS AND REDDIT!!!I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! I HATE THIS PLACE! I NEED TO BREAK FREE! I WANT TO TALK TO A FAT SOCIALLY ABNORMAL GUY WHO LEARNED SANSKRIT BECAUSE A THREAD ON 4CHAN TOLD HIM IT WAS COOL!! I WANT TO MEET THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO READ THE ENTIRE ST. JOHN'S BOOK LIST OR BLOOM'S CANON WHILE LIVING WITH THEIR MOM!!! NO MORE QUIRKY PEOPLE, NO MORE INTERNET-BRAINED NORMIES AND NORMIFIED INTERNET TEACHING GAY MILLENIALS, I WANT REAL ACTUAL SCHIZOS AND I WANT THEM FUCKING NOW!!!! WHERE DID ALL THE REAL HUMANS GO?!?!?!? WHERE'S THE GUY TRYING TO WIN A FIELD'S MEDAL TO THE TOTAL DETRIMENT OF HIS PERSONAL LIFE WHILE PHONING IN A MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DEGREE BECAUSE HIS BROWN DAD WANTS HIM TO "GET A REAL JOB?" I KNEW HIM ONCE!!! HE WAS MORE INTERESTING THAN THESE BLOG-READING, PODCAST-LISTENING, TWITTER- AND DISCORD-USING FUCKING FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!
>>25184055I feel like a loser doing it, but check out meetup __dot__ com and look for book club. You join the group on the website and then show up to the meeting.I'm near DC and I just found a history of philosophy book club (last 3 authors are Vico, Montesquieu, & Pascal), a classic literature club (last 3 readings are To The Lighthouse, Emily Dickinson poems, and Stoner (lol))... there's also a history book club and a lit fic meetup in a local suburb. There's probably something near you provided you live close to a big metro area.
>>25184055Iol, I like your rage and passion. Finding a good friend is hard, I feel very alone too, even on /lit/, I think the only way I could find an actual friend is make a great thing, a good work, that is somewhat popular but also reveals a lot of my values, so that people can feel what I am, how intelligent I am etc. and contact me if they feel like it, alas I'm too lazy and retarded to do that, but not retarded enough to like the common man
>>25184055my feeling has always been that /lit/ is full of male academics who chafe under archliberal orthodoxy wherein airing even a vaguely contrary opinion is professional and personal suicide. we're basically university samizdat for the neoliberal empire
>>25185600>my feeling has always been that /lit/ is full of >academicsLmfao
>>25185600Even the best posters here are nowhere near academic level. Honors undergrad at best. There used to be a few academic posters but they’ve been gone for years.
what's your favourite short story?
>>25184182Many Mansions, Wolfe
>>25184182atm it's "the key" by eudora welty. who is this beautiful boy btw?
>>25184182for me it's In The Cemetery Where Al Jolson Is Buried by Amy Hempel, lots of good recommendations in this thread thanks anons
>>25184182any books like the Litchi Light Club, or similar to Maruo?
>>25184182one i cannot mention
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
>>25137039In reference to Aesop and the frogs who desired a king, no?
Been trying my hand at terza rima -- here's what I've got so far. It's far from perfect, I know.I think it has the same problem as a lot of my verse in that it grows more feral the longer it goes on...
>>25136767I get inspired to write a poem, write like 10 lines, get tired and tell myself I’ll continue it tomorrow, then lose the feeling and end up hating whatever I wrote so I just abandon it.
>>25184898This is how I feel about everything in life. I can't maintain interest in any pursuit for longer than a month. The only poems I've written were while drunk. When I wake up the next day I'm unable to tell what it's about and usually don't remember writing it. I hope if I keep trying I'll someday create something I can be proud of.
Bump
Which philosophers have totally 180d on their previous held views and repudiated themselves?
>>25184539>peace with the WestIran was close to making peace with the West multiple times. For example, Khatami in the later 90s around the time of Clinton's presidency. Guess who got in the way? Jews.Are Jews Western now?Iran wants to make peace with everyone but Israel and those who empower them.
>>25184791Conservatives are not liberal at all. Many of them would be happy if Trump turned America into a Christian theocracy.
>>25183743>Why do you think this?As said, by judging the system by what it does, not by what it says it does.>Liberals generally are not fans of overt and pervasive state religions and regimes who officially define the good and then impose it as the lifestyle for its subjectsWhat I want to know is where you've been for the last 20 years. Liberals have created an overt and pervasive state religion and a regime that officially defines the good and imposes it. >Liberalism is more like KantThis might have been true at the signing of the declaration of independence, but Kant has been dead for over 200 years. No ideology, or nation for that matter, remains constant over that same period of time.>>25183750There's a clear difference between what you call "safeguards to minimize conflict", that the rest of us call "law and a functioning justice system" and authoritarian "you will do as we say." policy. Terms like "hate speech" or phrases like "dangerous to our democracy" are pejorative thought-terminators which instruct listeners to not think critically about the subject and accept it as bad. Beyond that, if a liberal democracy can be overthrown by freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom of movement or self-defense, then perhaps it wasn't a good government that was able to provide value and security to its constituents. In these cases, the "safeguards" you discuss are just oligarchs passing laws to hold onto their power.
Liberal "democracy" supporters will never stop seething about their cult not spreading to the third world.That includes Fukuyama.
>>25181801this sounds awfully similar to agamben's 'state of exception', i.e. the secret motor of power is through exclusion/exception, the foundational exception being the human body itself from the body of the political
>around 100 years ago, Fernando Pessoa was strolling through Lisbon when he passed by a friend of his, a notorious homossexual dandy poet, who was hand in hand with a sailor. He decided to engage in friendly banter and chatised him, saying: "Mr. Botto, have you got no shame!? Doing these things on a Friday on Lent!?>the guy replied: Fernando, my friend, sailor is fish
>>25184933HOLY COPE
>>25184316>>25184322>>25184339>>25184351>>25184369>>25184913mental illness lol
>fishno such thing
>Seamen are notorious homos in all times and places>Pessoa's homo friend alludes to TAKING FISH IN THE MOUTH (blaspheming at the same time)
>>25185976Every single person gets the joke, you retarded ESL.
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>>25186187>gamified isekai slop.anon... what did you think the term could mean other than that?
>>25186190>they are reduced to ritual objects. Men removed as far from manhood as possibleYeah what you're describing is 1:1 a significantly popular tranny (and generally bdsm) fetish. I'm surprised you don't know this. Sorry anon.
>>25186190>He can't be ugly, what's the point if he's ugly? What's the point if he's barely effeminate? go big or go home.I get your point yes, BUT you can still make him beautiful and feminine without 'saying' he's beautiful and feminine. There's where the skill of a writer comes in. It won't be easy to write this, ngl. Try this: write the character as if you were writing a woman that wishes to be a man. Think like a woman when writing this: don't go into physical descriptions of how gorgeous the femboy is or how alluring his eyes are, that's your male mind speaking. Let your interior female take charge of this character, and let the character around him be fascinated by his beauty and femininity and paint the contrast with his inner self and conflict..
>>25186201No not in that way. Don't do this to me. I already doubt myself. I suck at explaining, most of the story isn't going to have him in that position, most of the story is going to have him play and fail to play soldier and have him be an interpreter for this foreign and deranged world. Each place has its own ridiculous quirk, this is just his place.My idea was that his place is founded by hippie types thats where the idea stems from. Give them 800 years and see what happens.>>25186209I see your point but that's actually supposed to be another character. This one is supposed to yearn for war.I might not be getting what youre saying? focus more on others percieving him? as in he is cognizant of people staring, being "treated as a woman"?
>>25186191I supposed I should have said "That's LitRPG?" As that there was my first exposure to the genre outside hearing the word.
Examples of Russian literature that are neither Christian apologia OR Communist theory?
>>25185935My mistake, I guess the wires got crossed since Tarkovsky adapted both Solaris and Roadside Picnic into films.
>>25185943Rarely have I seen such blatant butchery so highly lauded as the tark adaptations of Lem.
>>25185929I accept your concession
>>25185894
Gogol’s dead souls but I don’t like it
What does /lit/ think of this man and his works? Man that saw the writing on the wall and was broken by the modern industrial world or just a manchild that didn't like working?
>>25183501>just a manchild that didn't like workingum, didn't he work as a mailman for half his life, sweaty?are you trying to discredit his working man status? why would you do that?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ
>>25185564He didn't like it.
>>25185564>are you trying to discredit his working man status?You lose your workingman status when you quit your job to be a deadbeat bum for 30 years
>>25185558The novel Post Office is quite literally about why he quit the last job he ever had
>>25186212Not when you work for the 30 years before that, dipshit. That's why they call me the working man. That's what I am.
Most of Marx's writings are either economic books, critiques of Hegelian thought, or historical analysis. He never left a coherent epistemology or metaphysics, and never really developed an ontology. His only philosophical work that I know of are the Manuscripts of 1844, but they remains very poor in their philosophical content. So why is he considered as one of the major thinkers of philosophy when his thought was as complex and philosophically rich as Montesquieu's thought was ?>dialectical and historical materialismMarx used a hegelian method to analyze history and society, but, apart from the German Ideology, he never really developed it. Even then, he doesn't really present a big and structured account for his philosophical thought but rather relies on a philosophical critique and historical presentation.
>>25185562Because his thinking created one of the largest and most long lasting political movements in the history of modernity and because he directly influenced a good 70% of thinkers who came after him.
>>25185562It's effectively religious devotion. Communism (in its various forms) is a nontheistic religion.
>>25185562because a lot of retards believe what he had to say
>>25185562because he falls under political philosophy/theory
>>25185804>>25185832I'm pretty sure Socrates was a jew. He constantly argued in bad faith, was extraordinarily ugly, and everyone hated him.
