general thread for all relating to the Butler, Pennsylvania fairground shooting>exact location of shooter on building roof: west or east side>how did he get up on the roof>did LE confront him there>snipers were stationed inside building, underneath him at exact same time>anything relating to the shooting layout>airphoto maps, diagrams of site>ballistics, paths of the shots taken>USSS, local/stale LE fuckupsPrevious threads:/ASLG/ #1 >>474457601>>474405685
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Get video with audiogeolocate the position of the recordingtriangulate the position of the shooter(s) based off the sound of the gunshotsThe time of arrival of the sound of the gunshot is slightly different between each recording. The more recordings and the further apart each person is, the more accurate the position triangulation will beThis will definitively prove where the shooter was, whether he changed positions, and whether there was a second or more shooter.
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>>474485958>>474485959That spots on his legs match that on his shorts, so definitely dirt. That roof or the climb to it was not so clean.
What are the chances the bullet came from the other direction?
>can see down the roof enough to notice any person on it >let them crawl into position
>>474485422Hypothetical 2nd shooter location? 240m from Trump, and in line with Crooks, with a clear height too.
>>474485852Look at the comically fast way that Trump's hand is sped up in the secret service sniper video...>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5c0AEGIMo8It's seems somewhat similar to when the 3 Stooges do something funny and Moe, Larry and Curly are buzzing around faster than they're supposed to be.Compare that with the main video and you'll see Trump's hands didn't go up on the 1st shot like that.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYfvSspaJtk&tThey sped the vid up so it's out of sync with the audio so it makes it seem like the SS sniper made a shot off camera. If they hadn't sped it up then you would see he wasn't anywhere near sighting that rifle when the shots went off.
>>474485422I was reading another thread and I saw picrel. This is supposed to be the aftermath right? People were evac'd which explains the piles of trash and scattered chairs. So when exactly was this pic taken and where is the body on the roof? If they already lifted it, wouldn't there be a pool of blood as seen in those closeup pics? I think the body was to the right of the red arrow that says patsy but the roof there looks clean. I doubt they managed to hose it down so quick.
474486233474486171>what if my hallucinations are really real?well-poisoning troons
>>474486171Zero. The bullet that hit Trump's ear killed a guy in the set of bleachers near Concession Rd.
>>474485422The people in the bleachers are not even in the trajectory, did the recoil move him or did he aim at the crowd after shooting trump?
>>474485422Just wondering whether that is a tattoo or dirt on the dead leg
>>474485422the company there has several trucks with ladders on the roofsthis is just one picture
>>474485422Crooks was the "lone nut shooter" just like Lee Harvey Oswald.
posting this here as well: >>474486506
>>474486499Radical new theory what if he had no intention of shooting Trump, fucked up and hit him. Would explain the lack of optics for a guy who shoots regularly and his dad has 20 or so guns. Maybe he wanted to suicide AND boost Trump to win the election. it's crazy for sure but not as crazy as the SS letting this shit happen at all.
ladder
>>474486709Neither of the two ladders involved belong to those trucks. The shooter brought his own 5 foot ladder, and the other came from who knows where, but not those trucks. Mystery solved.
>>474486967
Oh yeah there's no way he could have gotten into that position without help
>>474486067You should indicate the 2 other victims in the lower purple box.Video here... but I don't buy this second shooter crap. It's easily explained by two shots.
>>474486967>>474487051This is where his 5 foot ladder was propped, on top of that Rubbermaid storage chest.
>>474486997there no hint of the shooters car near or in the parking lot
>>474486212seems like a different roof, see >>474486506 and >>474484493 and >>474487051
>>474487051>>474486967Well poisoning Jew
>>474487051That ladder was likely the SWAT team ladder, added later.
>>474486901the trees are the water tower/forest on the end of the parking lot
>>474486418That sharpshooter location is where the counter snipers were inside teh building. I had no idea they had such a clear sight to the nigger crawling on the roof, they tried to kill Trump.
>>474486418use the bloodstain for his position:
>>474487176>Video here... but I don't buy this second shooter crap. It's easily explained by two shots.Cop caught him as he was about to shoot. He was definitely panicked.
>>474487249https://files.catbox.moe/tgffop.mp4His van was parked elsewhere.
>>474487176Video linkhttps://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1813332383262998882
>>474487338I would assume he only got to carefully aim the first shot at Trump, and all the rest were just hopeful splatter shots.
Ok here is some info you need. One of the bullets hit the fork lift boom that was holding speakers and it shot out the hydraulic fliud collapsing the telescoping boom. The one furthest away form shooter. Or to trumps left
>>474487303there's no tree at the far end of the roof in this photo: >>474476440 that's a different roof no? look at the trees here, quite visible and poking past roof height >>474487332 they should be visible in the first photo, yet are not.
>>474487223I wonder if the ladder and gun were pre-positioned in this storage unit.
>>474487332Yeah it actually checks out. Idk why I was expecting a bigger splatter.
Why are the feds leaking out this information instead of official press releases
>>474487284are u stoopid?
>>474487729Afterwards the storage chest was opened. Maybe just from being searched though. That would be a good place for it. If they saw him with a ladder walking to the building, and with a rifle, he would have been very conspicuous.
>>474487332How did he throw his gun so far away when shot in the head? I think his gun is a better ID for his shooting position. Maybe he was shot while trying to exfiltrate?
>>474487940They shot him in the mouth so more than likely they hit the rifle as well
>>474486499Wow you are blind. How could you use on picture for your own analysis? There are 3 bleachers the one uoi dont see is definitely between the boom lift that was hit and collapsed and trump
>>474485958very masonic looking arrangement of those cranes holding up the flag
>>474487823I believe they shot him in the mouth, his front teeth are all missing. That's why there's minimal blood splatter.
>>474485852>>474486395FYI also guys, it's highly likely that the reason there is no recoil in the vid is because someone from the Trump campaign set him up with blanks. Blanks have far lower recoil and real rounds.
>>474487403what kind of 20yo buys a van like that? he lookes fragile and not the kind of person that would use it for labor jobsand if he was doing #vanlife he would have social media
474488170>freemasonsshlomo so vile>>474487825With many big investigations the cops will sit tight on most everything until they get shit straight. This is the biggest of big investigations. Or its humiliating and they need time to cover their asses.
>>474488285take your meds shitlib, faggot kike
Can you guys think of any reason they would want the body to decompose by leaving it a long period of time?
Hydraulic fliud on ground from collapsed fork boom lift that is seen on video collapsing from bullet hit to Hydraulic line
QUESTION:Is there an audio recording of the secret service communications during the shooting? I think it would give better perspective of what might have really happened? Thanks.
>>474487825/pol/ can't be contrarian until there's an official narrative to be contrarian against. If /pol/ figures it out first that means anons are just that smart.Though seriously the Secret Service obviously failed in planning and in providing appropriate resources so an official announcement almost has to mean someone falling on their own sword and maybe none of them are willing to.
can anyone explain
>>474488546No.
>>474488528Some glow nigger necrophiliacs prefer their sex corpses a little stiffer & smellier, easier to control you know?
>>474486418You can see the blood stain in your picrel.It’s to the right of the Patsy arrow on the backside of the roof.
>>474488546That shit will probably never be released and is probably very encrypted like military radio so a scanner can't hear it. But local LE maybe but even they have encryption lines and its probably used for this event
>>474487661See the blood now?
>>474488649the tall puke green thing on the image on the right is the fern on the left.
>>474487433If there was a second shooter, they would have been the real pro sniper. They wouldn’t miss by that large a margin on the first shot. Stop muddying the water. Could have been a second shooter but not from that angle
>>474485852DEBUNKED. The shooter location is wrong. He was more on the left side of the roof
>>474485422Where's the bodycam footage of the cop that went up the ladder but was scared away? That will really tell us alot about timing....we got to ask was that a police officer or a secret service agent, and how long after seeing a gun did they wait to call it in/how long after did the shooter shoot after being spotted
>>474487176>>474487433where is the full hd version of this clip?
>>474487940Cops would have moved the gun away from him, even if they knew he was dead.
>>474489015The aerial photo I'm referring to has no cops in it anywhere. It seems taken before they got up there.
>>474488871And ask the officer why he didn't discharge his weapon into the ground to alert SS.
>>474488678if you didnt know for a fact that there was a shot to be had you would never risk going up there. 100% inside job
>>474488781I'm not advocating the 2nd shooter theory, just posting the video showing the other two guys getting shot.
>>474488678This proves he picked this spot because the tree blocks the view from the snipers in the blue circle
>>474488846Really? Well that's interested since I explicitly marked the giant streak of the shooter's blood that ran like a lazy river down the roofridge so try again.
>>474488649there's a conduit that goes between the two buildings that's above that shorter flat roof sectonsee >>474488678
>>474489128The aerial photo was later that evening. The cops were on the roof minutes after he was shot.
>>474488649The bright green thing on left? Trees. Hard to distinguish cuz crap quality video.
>>474485422Does pic related he was on the far left side of the building?
>>474488777yeah I can kinda see it now. thrown off by that lower line and black stuff under it, seems like parking lot asphalt at first look, which placed all green way further away, in my mind. shit perspective. weird shadows on the lower part of the building, looks nothing alike with the aerial photo
>>474489323>>474489338yes that pipe thing makes sense now. explains it
>>474489261We don't know for sure his initial shots were from that location, or whether he was sniped trying to move to the left. If anything, he was likely further right (near where the gun was found) to keep the trees between him and the SS snipers.
>>474489339picrel show ~ where he was in that video.See here also for where he went from there:>>474487332>use the bloodstain for his position:
>>474485750Why was there no one on that water tower?
>>474489339No, that pic was taken from an elevated ground spot almost parallel to the roof line, making him appear closer than he was. He was near where the gun/blood spot from the later pics.
>>474489585the only movement that makes sense after shooting is toward cover down the roof
>>474489675DEI mixed in with malice
>>474487433One guy drops down a litter faster that others in vide.. what a fucking joke. Low IQ bullshit.
>>474489625No way, if he was that far over they wouldn't have been able to see him from the ground.
>>474489675the water tower walk is not built for 2 guys with 6 foot long tripod mounted rifles.
>>474489721How was that achieved?
>>474489675dont think theres access or even a platform, but they could've installed surveillance equip for sure
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>>474489905yes the guy drops immediately on the first gunshot but if he was aiming for trump thats a giant whiffed shot on his end
>>474490047eh i think they could make it work
>>474490080from the far left in this pic>>474486499
>>474488529fucking great, now trump is responsible for an oil spill. fucking fascist
TRUMP 2024 No weapon formed against him shall prosper We're back baby ! AMERICA #1 >>474487332>Hollow point .223
>>474490262is that a ladder
>>474490080area between building crooks was on and main road is slightly elevated so people standing by the fence could see at least onto the lower part of the roof
>>474490522yes, but the ladder ends about 20 feet from the ground, and has a ladder lock on it> checked via google earth> on a side note, the building was a lot closer than it looks on TV, see image>>474490262horrible location. Not a clear line of site, a pain in the ass to get up to and down from; and zero cover if you have to fight your way down
>>474486499The guy who got shot in the head was sitting right below the yellow crane.At around 7:27:https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1812600916563881984/vid/avc1/1280x720/gYaDaQMj18BFfntt.mp4
>>474485422media still keeps intentionally placing the shooter too far west.
>>474490997>media still keeps intentionally placing the shooter too far westTHIS.this is why I created this topic.
>>474490997They had it in the right spot on the nbc nightly news this evening
>>474490997that will make sense whem the ballistics suggest the shots came from the widow of building behind it
>>474490794can see him better at 2:25, standing on 4th or 5th row
>>474490680Yeah idk anon, it's elevated but not that much. He looks like he's right on the edge of the building.
>>474486233>>474485422i thought about thatsomeone else suggested it and i dismissed itbut Im having second thoughtscouldbut the shot would be that much harderthey would be hidden frm the ss snipers, but wide open from the airunless the had a hole in the side of that building
>>474487825>Why are the feds leaking out this information
>>474489585>>474489823There is precisely 2.3 seconds between his 3rd shot and when the supposed SS shots ring out, and in that time he had to toss an 8 pound weapon 8 feet (try it yourself and see how long it takes you, as I did), on top of having been prone. So no chance he was moved.
40 fucking minutes.. holy shit
>>474487922depending on how sturdy that structure is, it looks like maybe plastic, it could have flexed when he stood/climbed on it and opened.
>>474491337>supposed to begin investigation and engage suspect>snaps a creepshot
>>474491265he was 38 feet (19 roof sections) from the east side of the building judging by the bloodstain. each standing seam is 24" apart.the picture from the ground is an example of forced perspective
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>>474487223I don't know why you'd choose to do that when you could just use a longer ladder and go up at the location that's being listed as the "SWAT ladder" here>>474487284If you're bringing a ladder at all you're going to stand out, so it can't be that the 5-foot ladder was somehow less conspicuous, it wouldn't have been. The "SWAT ladder" location is simply superior for getting up on that roof because it's covered on all four sides; 3 sides by walls and the entryway by trees; and it's right next to his intended roost. As for the rifle ARs can come apart pretty easily, could've brought it in pieces and reassembled while behind the trees. Just put it in a backpack, easy peasy.
>>474491097I think they already made the graphics and new info didn't yet get to them. Asians seem to have better shots for news >>474488678
>>474491407he rapid fired at least 4 more shots in less than a secondif you listen to >>474463000 its clear its from from the same rifle and incoming not outgoing
>>474487223>his 5 foot ladder
>>474491220which shot was it that killed that guy?because in the video https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1813332383262998882trump is still talking, you hear a gunshot go off and the guy in white drops immediately, and you see damage on the railhow do you whiff your first shot so hard? trump is still facing the direction hes shot at from
>>474491822You can't expect those counter snipers to get on hot roofs if theres a perfectly good A/C building they can sit inside.
>>474491931IDK what you're even talking about or what the relevance supposedly is, but the shooter only fired 3 shots and they were in the space of more than a second anyhow. Again, still not understanding where you'd be going with your claims
>>474490107Somebody's gotta be able to get up there to clean it, promise you that.
>>474491337>>474491656Here is the full CBS x thread from that picrel :https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1813021945958449180.html
>>474492098>which shot was it that killed that guy?have not seen video of him when the first shot is fired so cant sayneed to confirm if that guy in white was one of the casualties
If the shooter was at the end of the building why does he look so big in the middle picture. The guy that took that picture, where was he at?
>>474491776>the picture from the ground is an example of forced perspectivethis. look at this photo >>474488649 right side he looks like a giant on shed roof. then look at left photo showing dude standing on the side of the roof above the pass, looks like an ant.right side photo is full edge of the roof side to side. you can count those 5 pillars. it's taken at extreme side angle
>>474492356its here >>474428582
>>474491284forgot to turn on all layers
>>474492474https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1812600916563881984/vid/avc1/1280x720/gYaDaQMj18BFfntt.mp4heres the video, it cuts off when trump gets shot, but if you watch other footage you can tell its moments later because hes pointing at the shit and looking that way
>>474492098>BECAUSE SNIPER COUNTER TEAM GOT SHOT AT SEE THIS VIDEO THEY PULL BACK FROM BEING SHOT AT.Its the only logical explanation since the kid was hidden by the trees from their POVhttps://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1813362469181469093
>>474491822and from these windows they couldn't see the guy laying prone on the roof 25 feet away from them at eye level?
>>474491337the real reason...> starting yesterday(?) the secret service started to move in the direction of blaming local/county police for the failures which allowed Saturday to happen> these leaks are coming from the local/county police, and are their way of saying "no, we called it in to you, don't blame us"
>>474492098that is not the fireman who died. fireman had grey/black shirt, can see it in video carrying him away. also fireman was on left side bleachers, you circled a white shirt dude from the right side bleachers, dude who didn't die, or even was injured. he's just a dude who insta drops after first shot, that's it.
>>474492784stolen from>>474486542comical. these niggas need to get they eyes checked.
>>474488724Anon can you circle what you're talking about because I don't see shit
>>474485422they grow up so fast
>>474488747Anon, there's absolutely nothing to indicate that that is blood
>>474490192>pants around ankles post rape photo handcuffing a dead person is standard operating procedure just in case they aren't actually dead.Pulling down the pants of a dead person? well that's a new one.
>>474493076Nice Crye pants, very high speed, much low drag
what do u see
>>474493448He probably just beat off one last time since he was sure he was going to die
>>474493076>comical. these niggas need to get they eyes checked.kek dummies cant draw a straight line
>>474492917maybe
>>474493066>he's just a dude who insta drops after first shot, that's itit looks like hes clutching his chest and he drops unnaturally imo
>>474493437what about this photo >>474487332there's a more closeup photo with folks just carrying him away, with a better view of the blood streak
>>474485422Here's one to think about >Trajectory In the photo taken of the bullet after it pierces Trump's ear the trajectory of that bullet is level and horizontal at the level of Trump's ear.Donald Trump is 6' 3" tall. The height of his ear to the stage would be approximately 6 feet.Donald Trump is standing on a stage that is approximately 6 feet high.The combined height would be an approximate average of 10 to 12 feet from the ground to Donald Trump's ear.Question:>How did a bullet being fired from an elevated roof above the target have a flat level trajectory when it struck and traveled past Donald Trump?The only way the bullet would have had a level trajectory 10 to 12 feet off the ground would require the bullet to be fired from a level position from the target. That would require the shooter would be firing from a position level with Donald's head.That means the shooter's position on the roof would have been level with the stage.Or the image in the photograph submitted by the Pulitzer Prize New York Times photographer would have to be fake.
>>474492530i think the ground around it is kinda hilly and sloped and not level. building seems to be in a lower spot. the area where people were filming is higher, so you get that weird effect.there's a video where he's crawling around and you can see from the back of the building that he's located to the east.
>>474493681there's three reported victims, unless we're being lied to. Trump, fireman and a woman. fireman died, was wearing a dark color shirt, he was clearly in the left bleachers as seen in photos from this and previous thread.if you think the white shirt dude died just because he dropped fast, that's not enough evidence. nobody knows that dude's name, nobody mentions he died or even was injured. there's only you thinking that because he drops fast, that's it
>>474493715>That means the shooter's position on the roof would have been level with the stage.yes, trump could probably see him from where he was standing and facing
>>474493076Wait, they had them at ground level behind a tree? Are we sure they aren't the special-ed service
>>474493715>>474493950forgot pic from the bottom of the stands, trump would be elevated but shooter came from that direction
>>474493681Lol Nobody has this fast of a reaction time, all the 3 that drop down at the same time is because they are hit. Lone gun men BS. Also his name was Maxwell Yearick.
>>474490047One guy with binoculars and a radio is all you need
>>474493814You can check that on Google earth, it has a terrain map
>>474493715watch this vid >>474492646 to get a better sense of perspective
>>474493715The roof was about 12 feet high at the slope. The shooter used a 5 foot ladder twice to scale the roof. So the level shot actually tracks.
>>474491265>looks likeanon these ^2 words are precisely the problemwe discussed the building foundation being on a gentle northeast-sloping swale in the past two threadsthe rally crowdmembers' vids/pics from ground level are seeing a lot more of the roof-level perspective, than if the ground surface was flat levelalso it distorts how close he appears to be, to the western end of the roof when really he's pretty far eastwardit's part of why my first thread was asking:>did he take the shots from west or east end of the roof
>>474493905False. 1 Dead , 2 Wounded excluding Trump https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/14/who-are-trump-rally-shooting-victims/74399786007/
>>474493715yeah, was thinking the same thing. the picture would eliminate someone shooting from ground level or the wrong height, right? also, is the bullet traveling very slightly downwards or is it just the angle of the photographer?
>>474487176>You should indicate the 2 other victims in the lower purple box.yes, also the strike on the bleecher fence is visiblereally have to wonder why those 3 hits seem to correspond to a single report - for 1 bullet to do that it seems to come from the trees, not the shooter's roof or the water tower
>>474494104i'm not autistic enough to do that. kek.
>>474485422>TREES MOTHERFUCKERThe rooftop is sufficiently elevated to negate the bleachers. The seating location of collateral victims will corroborate. Final position of the perp's body does not necessary reflect the firing position he took any more than the rifle's or backpacks (latter very far down the roof from him in most aerial photos so far). Further-- the video shows the perp visible from the ground, necessitating him being much, much closer to the edge than in OP pic. Video of SS overwatch is of the near side team which would be obstructed by the nearest tree. Collateral victims should be high on the bleacers stage right, and low stage left-- establishing where blood splatter is from them in photos so far should be found in those areas.
>>474491407>So no chance he was movedFirst thing they do is remove the gun from the suspect. They don't just let them hold onto it. Dead or alive.
>>474493495Is that a group of people in that cubbyhole
>>474485422This is disinfo. The bullet came from Trump's left and slightly behind him so the shooter was also to his left.
These are names of the three victims, according to the Pennsylvania State Police:Corey Comperatore, 50,- Deceased. Was from Sarver, Pennsylvania.David Dutch, 57- In stable condition. Dutch is from of New Kensington, Pennsylvania.James Copenhaver, 74- In stable condition. Copenhaver is from Moon Township, Pennsylvania.3 PEOPLE NOT TWO
>>474493715>would have had a level trajectorywho says it has to have a level trajectory?
>>474490192Why is the gun so far away from him? Did the cops go up there and then just left it like that for some time?
>>474493448We used to pull man-dresses up above dead insurgents heads to show that they had been searched
>>474494365huh that is weird. I'm from the timeline where a woman was injured, in the hand or something. even saw a video of them carrying her out, with blood on her arm. didn't happen in this timeline?
Damn even X is faster than 4chan retards now you guys have really fallen off. Believing in a lone shooter theory lol.
>(x ) doubt Shooter fucked up Next time don't hire hairless little boys to do man's job . What prison you wanna go to ? You're not going on trial . So pick on and one only And no I'm not saving you this time In fact I'm going to do Gotham a huge favor by not arresting you I'm going to do Gotham a favor and huck you out into the streets where they can get some revenge for themselves sGood luck sweetie
>>474494531what else do u see
>>4744859581. Bleacher height is a non factor2. perp should and would have used the nearest tree to peek over and/or obstruct the overwatch behind the stands3. the crane is the main obstruction (possible deflection into crowd)4. the hydrolic line hit on the tractor/crane in video stage left-- dead on hit from shooter's line of sight, or a deflection (if so where?)5. Having that fucking flag as a wind indicator is a gigantic hell the fuck no especially hedging against longer range threats and never should've been tolerated without being fixed firmly down facing.
can anyone explain what those are? rain drain? I just can't identify those at all on any pics beside the TMZ shooter pics
>>474494547That means the counter sniper took the shot at Trump
>>474494672>Did the cops go up there and then just left it like that for some time?That's what I think. They made sure he was dead and separated him from his weapon. Then they left the scene for the investigators.
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>>474494774no, fuck off with your timeline bullshit pothead
>>474488678Nice. Even little differences like this expose how manipulative western media is with their shot selection.
>>474494672The counter snipers shot him through the mouth so they probably also hit the gun knocking it out of his hands.
>>474494774I haven't seen this can you post this ? It would be huge, means we don't even really have the exact numbers of people injured ? Anybody knows if Freemasonry's a big thing in the area ?
>>474486709Those ladders had morning to do with it, this ladder however...
>>474494494>Further-- the video shows the perp visible from the ground, necessitating him being much, much closer to the edge than in OP pic.nah.
>>474485852wowthat is some pure retardedness in that meme
>>474494658The bullet in the photo literally has a trail.It is obvious that line is level when you look at Donald's head position.His head and eye line is level.Does that line look like it is traveling up or down from the horizontal plane in your opinion?
>>474488781>If there was a second shooter, they would have been the real pro sniper. They wouldn’t miss by that large a margin on the first shot. Stop muddying the water. Could have been a second shooter but not from that angleit's odd - a line through the 2 people hit on the bleechers and the railing would point back to the trees, and that would also be a great spot to hit the patsy frombut why would the real pro fire into the bleachers before taking out trump and the patsy?questions - no answers yet
>>474490192Kek. This guy must have been on some weird cocktail of MK ultra drugs to be this oblivious.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_1p_9e2kkg
>>474495170I remember initial reports of an injured woman and seen a woman being carried out, with blood on her hand/arm. wtf
>>474495208you watch way to many movies
>are they covering for other injuries because it would destroy the lone shooter narrative ?
>>474486418>patsy, indoor sharpshooterThe Swat team that was supposed to secure the building was INSIDE according to today's reports-- supposedly the metal roof was "too hot" or some bullshit. Angle doesn't match the photo of one of the rounds in flight-- if it was from those windows it would've caught Don in the process of the head turn toward the big screen, cutting it even closer. Collateral victims in that case would be in a much different position (high stage left bleachers) compared to the alleged perp's on the roof in that scenario.
>>474495083Look like a rain drain on the far right but why would they have multiple drains going down between the two buildings.
>>474494992Looks like somebody spraying something on protesters? Do you know when this was taken? I think I remember hearing something about protesters being moved into an odd place.
hypothetical:if you were a trained sniper (for sheriff dept/Local PD/swat) aka precision marksman and were stationed inside of a bldg on a VIP protection public event detail,and a scraggly youth randomly approached your building carrying-looking through a rangefinder, what would you do?
>>474495332ye now it makes sense for white shirt dude, honestly didn't know there were two more men that were injured.
>>474490246>yes the guy drops immediately on the first gunshot but if he was aiming for trump thats a giant whiffed shot on his end2 guys, on either end of the bleachers, and also the railingsingle report that corresponds with those 3 hitsline points back to the treesbut wtf?maidan-style random targets?
>>474495083its just the siding of the building, its ribbed like a shipping container
>>474485422https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbkysPTnHche was groomed by the CIA and trained. it's an obvious staged event.
>>474495332These are names of the three victims, according to the Pennsylvania State Police:Corey Comperatore, 50,- Deceased. Was from Sarver, Pennsylvania.David Dutch, 57- In stable condition. Dutch is from of New Kensington, Pennsylvania.James Copenhaver, 74- In stable condition. Copenhaver is from Moon Township, Pennsylvania. Source : https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/14/who-are-trump-rally-shooting-victims/74399786007/> ALL 3 INJURED IN THE SAME VIDEO ? MORE THAN ONE SHOOTER ? COULD HE REALLY SHOOT ALL 3 OF THEM FROM WHERE HE WAS ?
>>474495618I would have had that building locked down and no one would have been allowed near it and if anyone was found near it they would have been immediately detained and questioned.
>>474495542that's a decent sized roof area wise. drains likely tie into site storm drain system below to get it off the property.
>>474495542there's 5 drains or whatever those are, and also the sunlight makes them look weird. shit shadows and forced perspective does that. find a photo of aerial shot of whole building on that side, you can count 5 of those drains whatever, they don't look as protruding but they are 5.
>>474495640No this would make sense with the counter sniper team being at shot from another shooter and flinching See : https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1813362469181469093 Why would they pull back anyway if they can't see him and tree hides and completly ruins thermal scopes ?
>>474488370Youre asking questions that further hurt the narrative that it was Crooks. Stop that, its antisemetic
>>474495294its not exacly level
>>474488693So put them on the ground near the building fucking retard
>>474495542there's something wrong with the whole TMZ video there's an angle to the roof between the building (in yellow) that can't be identified on any picture of the building from the top plus the rain drain I can't seem to see anywhere on any pic of the side of the building used to shoot maybe I'm retarded too
>>474492098>how do you whiff your first shot so hard?those 2 guys and the railing hit do seem to correspond to a single report - that line doesn't go to the patsy's roof location - it's up in the trees(can't make it reach the water tower, either)
>>474495862You might be right, idk much about about gutters and drains. I just know you want to get the water away from the foundation
Ahhh stop saying "rain drain" you retards. It's called a GUTTER
>>474495640The trajectory is consistent with the shooter's position, Corey Comperatore, Trump, the right hand bleachers and the load-all.[Pic Rel]
>>474496088u is retarded.
>>474496253sorry you asshole >>474496298show me where that roof is then
>>474488370>what kind of 20yo buys a van like that?An assassin
>>474496375u is retarded.
>>474493066>dude who didn't die, or even was injured. he's just a dude who insta drops after first shot, that's it.ah - that changes it - verified the guy in white flinched but was not actually hit?if so, it's possible the patsy fucked up the first shot that bad
>>474496088and what you drew with yellow is the rightside pass, not left side one that the shooter used.
>>474490766>Not a clear line of site,patently false
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>>474496508no, I think I messed up, didn't know there were two more injured men. so you might be right.
>>474496520this image is wrong, this is closer to reality
>>474496519it's flat and not angled also there's no gutter/protruding section alright I might really be retarded but that really don't look like the same building to me
>>474496049>https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1813332383262998882even if it was, the shooter is laying down on a 12 foot roof and trump at 6'3 is standing on a 6ft stand. The trajectory is not the issue, it's how he was allowed to shoot at all IMO.
>>474496521my version displays the downhill angle best >>474496049
Oh by the way.> HIS NAME WAS MAXWELL YEARICK (ashkenazi ? jewish surname and last name)> CROOKS IS A PATSY JUST LIKE OSWALD BACK THEN HAVE YOU NOT LEARNED ANYTHING IN 40 YEARS ?
>>474496520bro that's not where the shooter was wtf
>>474496269Was this photo taken before or after the shooting?
>>474496789the only wrong thing about it is the position of thee shooter
>>474496892yeah its an old image but that wasnt the pointread what im responding toi posted the most accurate one in the thread to start with
>>474496908After. You can see the litter that's been left behind.
>>474496798I know I thought the same but there's also that sunset shadows and forced perspective, really transforms how you perceive it.
>>474495307The patsy was firing also but obviously a lousy shot.Witness accounts of the firefighter who was killed stated that he was about 3 to 4 rows up from the bottom of the bleachers.The question would be:If the individual in the bleachers was killed with a single headshot what was his position in correlation to Trump.Was his head in the way of Trump's head or just poor aim.Remember 3 people hit in the bleachers then add Trump then add the crane. That's five bullets, five separate targets struck out of seven recorded gunshots within what 10 seconds and one shooter.
>>474496798Ugh I wish 4chan was filled with Autists still..The camera man civilian is on the WEST side of the building at an angle, they're on higher ground and can really only see the shooter when he props up, because they're zoomed in aiming across the whole roof. This isn't a massive building in the first place.BAKA
>>474485422The local cops are the key. They were up on the second floor of the building right behind the shooter. That means they could see everything. So why didn't they take out Crooks? Did they leave their posts? Why?The local cops are the key to this whole thing.https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rally-security-failure-secret-odds-080042605.html"The local sniper team, which hailed from the Butler County Emergency Services Unit, was located on the second floor providing overwatch of the crowd at the rally, the source said."Pic comes from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVHvYl_THXU
>>474496880>HIS NAME WAS MAXWELL YEARICKprobablybut anons are going round and round on the ear lobesbut thats another threadthis is the locations and angles thread
>>474488678Leave it to chinks to show the best angle
>>474496253I know but I also knew if I played along with the other retard it would likely cause someone an aneurysm. Darwin.
>>474497061the guy in the video dropping down could be reacting to that guy having his brains blown out
>>474497544kek i got u
>>474497206yeah maybe I'm just missing an angle
>>474485852>>474488285.223 doesn't have that much recoil while firing single shot prone
>>474497450The cops took this overhead picture of Crooks from their second floor post. So they were up there before the rally started. Were they still up there when Crooks was shooting?
>>474497178Well I thought the shooter hit that hydraulic line and crashed that speaker to the ground
>>474488678theres a 2nd team on the green circle
>>474497823is that a cop photo? where did that image even come from, i thought it was a drone that someone brought to the event
>>474488285>there is no recoil in the vid because its a 5.56 and they have jack for recoil unless you shoulder it like a beeotch
>>474489236the snipers on the roof on not the next building over but the 2nd one is who shot Crooks, they had a clear view.so, not really a valid point.
>>474497835He did. You can see that the boom has dropped compared to the other load-all which is still elevated.
>>474496269>The trajectory is consistent with the shooter's position, Corey Comperatore, Trump, the right hand bleachers and the load-all.yes, for those hits - I am referring the the other bleacher, at nearly a 45 degree angle, with the visible hit on the railing and 2 people dropping, both in the back rowit does seem that one of those people may have just flinched without being hit, but even if the only hit we consider is on the railing, our patsy is off by a million miles - and that was the very first shot
>>474497544No, all threads were being shilled on. Maxwell Yearick was on the chans. His logo : MY ; he studied arts and his now shoahed website had his art. EXPOSE THE KIKES IT LEADS BACK TO THEM
>>474497919It's from one of the police sniper that was posted on the second floor of that building.https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-shooting-statement-joe-biden-updates/"One of the snipers inside saw Thomas Matthew Crooks outside and looking up at the roof, observing the building and disappearing, a local law enforcement officer tells CBS News.Crooks came back, sat down and looked at his phone. At that point, one of the snipers took a picture of him. Crooks took out a rangefinder and the sniper radioed to the command post. "
>>474496521Those lines look perpendicular to me.What are you saying maybe centimeters off perfectly level.I know you are trying to prove me wrong but I'm not trying to prove I'm right.However let's say just for discussion that a bullet loses velocity and begins to drop or spiral after striking a target.Just some stuff we learned in a class a long time ago but if you can marry those two lines the podium being level of course and show that drop in trajectory that would be very helpful.
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>>474497823You believe that? Who told you that? The cops, themselves? And you believe it?
>>474497595Those windows are open b/c the local police had snipers on the second floor of that building.https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rally-security-failure-secret-odds-080042605.html"The local sniper team, which hailed from the Butler County Emergency Services Unit, was located on the second floor providing overwatch of the crowd at the rally, the source said."
>>474497919its believed to be the leo sniper team on the 2nd floor of the warehousethey saw the shooter scoping the place out earlierthought he looked susso they snapped a pic and called it in for "someone" else to handlewe are in the blame game phase of this investigation and LEO and SS are trying to front run each other
>>474497650Yearick has this ear bump from previous piercing too faggot and its been proved by people that had piercings before that i can deform cartillage. kys jewish faggot u will be exposed. Roger Stone didn't insist on it being Yearick for NO REASON
>>474498048was they hydraulic fluid spray from the same bullet that grazed trump?
>>474498270https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-shooting-statement-joe-biden-updates/"One of the snipers inside saw Thomas Matthew Crooks outside and looking up at the roof, observing the building and disappearing, a local law enforcement officer tells CBS News.Crooks came back, sat down and looked at his phone. At that point, one of the snipers took a picture of him. Crooks took out a rangefinder and the sniper radioed to the command post. "
this is a case of 3-4 bullets which killed one and injured another three and dropped the boom. damned magic bullets again?
>>474498102>our patsy is off by a million miles - and that was the very first shotit wouldve been like the one in purple yeh, and then what? he whiffs again and headshots the dude on the bleachers, then finally gets trump on the ear?considering you can see on top of that building from the bleachers alone is a major fuckup, it had to be intentional
>>474498102The bleacher that gets hit is the right most stand. There's a video wall behind. The middle bleacher didn't have a video wall.
>>474498360its just blood retard
>>474498448I don't know. There's a possibility that it was.
>>474498609Dude wasn't a professional. Not sure why people imply he was. He didn't even use his own gun.it was his dad's or something.
>>474498609Trump was hit by the first shot (from Crooks, anyway). First crack sounds and we see him flinch and shortly thereafter his pain receptors say "We just got shot, in the ear, it was the best ear, I played a lot of golf with these ears, and I am good at golf, very good, the best in my friend group by far" and he drops as he considers how much he wants to FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT the last guy that birdied a hole he parred, once he puts on his shoes.
>>474498609>it wouldve been like the one in purple yeh, and then what? he whiffs again and headshots the dude on the bleachers, then finally gets trump on the ear?those look like shots 2 & 3the first report corresponds with the railing hit on the -other- bleacher, which would mean missing trump by 10s of feet, and even that is only possible if the 2 people who drop in the back row of that bleacher are flinching and not actually hit
>>474497625This is Japanese news, channel name is Hiruobi
there's something wrong with the tmz video
>>474498468Yeah.. Only retards believe in a lone shooter scenario. >>Also his name was Maxwell Yearick !! Say itThese faggots are on suicide watch that we keep digging on their jewish bolshevik ANTIFAgot paramillitaryKEEP DIGGING ANONS. STONES WOULDNT SAY THIS FOR NO REASON. ((((THEY)))) WOULDNT SCRUBB HIM OFF THE FACE OF THE INTERNET FOR NO REASON
>>474496070On a 95 degree F day? You want us to spring for coolers and beer as well? Maybe a picnic basket of double cheeseburgers? This ain't play time, this is serious.
>>474498609the first shot is what grazed trumps ear
>>474499233>Trump was hit by the first shot (from Crooks, anyway)one report preceded that shot, and struck the railing of the bleacher behind trump to his left
>>474498702There's no even any proof this pic is legit. Source it.
>>474498270I thikn he was sitting on a piece of metal that abuts that end of the building. The 2 story warehouse with cops is just behind him a ways.
>>474495392DUDE TOTALLY BRUH YAAAAA
>>474499279u is retarded.
>>474498208>Those lines look perpendicular to me.sort of like.....>these lines are NOT parallel ?>What are you saying maybe centimeters off perfectly level.this is a high velocity roundwhat kind of drop do you think theres going to be?where was he zeroed?that bullet could have been rising if he zeroed for 200m
>>474485422Phone and computer searched, not a damn speck apparently. No clue how he ever learned bomb making recipes.
>>474498609>considering you can see on top of that building from the bleachers alone is a major fuckup,This precisely.If that rooftop position was on a direct horizontal trajectory with Trump's head the snipers above and behind Trump would have seen the patsy as clear as day.As you say he would have been seen from the bleachers as he was easily seen from the ground. The patsy would not have had cover or elevation, he was basically in the open or there was a second gunman but no grassy knoll this time.
>>474495432so where'd they shoot the guy as he was laying prone ya dumb fuckwit?
>>474490997Maybe coverup, maybe they're scared of giving out too much information to make it easier for other would-be assassins. American news is about telling people what to think, not what happened. I watch Jap news regularly and they put far more effort into reconstructing crime scenes (in general, not just this one), probably because a much higher % of Japanese are autists.
>>474495085The counter snipers were to his right, not his left.
>>474495542Flat and low grade roofs need more drains to stop water from pooling.
>>474498048I heard the speaker crashed onto the ground.
>>474499279>>474499646does this help?
>>474499577Yes, he is sitting on the concrete wall on the right side of the picture. He is looking towards the barn area where the stage is and also the building that he will later shoot from. The cop is in a window above him in that building and he took the picture.
>>474499279https://x.com/dc_draino/status/1812642041391915384
>>474488693 Except it shouldn’t matter about the roof at all if, like she said, these parts of the field were under local PD watch and not SS watch. She can’t even keep her fucking story straight.
>>474499673X-axis in 100s of feetY-axis in inches
>>474499679how could a 20 year old get ahold of a burner phone or laptop? imposibru
>>474496789All of those lines are intentionally going in the wrong direction. The bullet came from Trump's LEFT. It is misdirection to have you look at the roof in from of him and the buildings and water tower to his right. The shooter who nipped him was on his LEFT.
>>474500045his blackrock mossad handlers
>>474485422All I gathered the other days, thank you other anons>>474343333>>474033526>>474033788>>474033792https://x.com/dc_draino/status/1812642041391915384>>474137066>>474152057>>474198098https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1812265909727396107https://x.com/coladoggxxx/status/1812285847921910241https://x.com/YWNReporter/status/1812519354862305494https://youtu.be/6UwWxJQN_sY?t=160>>474032323>>474345885https://youtu.be/NP86CksBmoU?t=31>>474296706>>474123247 ty anon who edited down >>474066576>>474136303>>474213900
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>>474499972>>474499921alright thanks I see it now
>>474499673Yes but you are the one saying the round was on a downward trajectory.I'm just asking given that bullet trace is clearly traveling parallel to the top edge of the podium which you pointed out then how are you saying that that bullet trace is traveling in a downward trajectory.It doesn't make sense.You drew two lines and both of them are equal in direction.No argument just curious.
>>474492530Telephoto lens REALLY compresses perspective
>>474499808There was one to his leftSee >>474485750
crooks messed up, it appears all he needed was a 10 foot step ladder and he couldve placed it anywhere within a kilometer and accomplished the same thing
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>>474500115Proof, please. What are you saying, the Jon Deere shot him and then panicked and pissed itself?
>>474499279that is the lamp from above the entrance in the building. it shouldn't look as large yet it does. way smaller on left side photo.
>>474500015x is in yards...3ft = .91mif he was zeroed for 200shooting at a target at 130 ishbullet could have been flat at the targetits more complicated than that since the shot is on a downward trajectory>anons trying to say the shooter was at ground level or the whole thing is fake or something idk
>>474500595Fucked up how both picture can look so different I guess it's the angle and zoom that make it awkward I might be very much retarded, but I started admitting I'm retarded so. I hope it's not too surprising.
>>474489675Possible answer>>474213900And as other anon said dei>>474296706
>>474494395I don't think you can infer much about the trajectory, the podium is probably level but not absolutely exactly. However that can't be the bullet that hit Trump unless his right ear is 3 inches lower on his head than the left.
>>474500115Sorry but the damage to his ear indicates otherwise, if you are correct there would be a hole in his cheek and teeth missing
>>474500261>iven that bullet trace is clearly traveling parallelnot clear at allyou are willfully ignoring a plain as day anglehere is a better onesee>>474496049good day sir
There is nothing about this case that we can trust except what we have seen with our own eyes which common sense confirms, the shooting itself. For an example of what I mean I am not happy with the identification, the FBI are not a fit organisation to identify the dead assassin in an assassination plot which they were likely to have been involved in. We have caught the FBI red handed faking crime scene photo’s before (Vegas, when police tipped us off and gave us the real, original photo’s after the silly versions were released by the FBI). If the assassin had been identified as anyone other than the ‘type’ which is appearing in the fake news media it would not be glow work, the assassination. They would not do it any other way. This is the M.O. of the glow which is regularly involved in mass ‘motiveless’ shootings (there is generally no such thing as a motiveless mass murder, BTW). >Donald Trump just tried to assassinate himself. What a violent bastard Donald Trump is. An insurrectionist.In fact I was waiting for exactly this type of event as all the build up to it had convinced me that something sinister was planned, it may interest you to know that they would have liked to blame us for it had A) Donald been killedB) we had taken the “project 2025” bait which was being laid for us and PLANTED on this site. >The alt right murdered Donald Trump.>It is ironic that the people who created his career murdered him too.
>>474500922>I might be very much retarded,me too brotha, me too
>>474488649Yeah. You’re fucking retarded
>>474494547How do you decide which way the bullet is traveling? If it's coming from Trump's left, then it would be traveling from right to left in this picture. I think you mean it was coming from the left of Trump, ie camera left, and heading rightward. But this can't be the bullet alleged to have hit Trump, as it's at least 3 inches below the top of his ear. It's entirely possible that it's 10 feet or more behind him, since there's no frame of reference for the Z axis.
>>474500353The actual shooter was along the path of the "likely spectator shot" blue pin, i.e. directly in the opposite direction from "the roof shooter."
>>474488397>orWhy not both?
Can someone ai generate it as it happened in Minecraft style preferably
>>474501513The bullet was shot from Trump's left. There's no way around that. Bullets don't make hard left turns. The actual shooter was to Trump's LEFT, not right, not in front of him, not behind him. You are being misdirected to look in every direction but the obvious and only correct direction.
>>474492098we don’t hear the gunshot, we hear the round hit the metal thing. multiple rounds couldve already been on their way by the time we hear the actual gunshot noises
They let the shooter get into position.Directly after the event even the BBC was commenting that audience members were saying that the guy was allowed to climb onto a nearly flat roof very close to Trump. All flat foots must have been pulled out of the shooters path of entry to the scene - he was carrying at least a rifle. Just any ordinary cop in the area would have foiled the plan.It’s glowing so bright my eyes are turning chinesed.
>>474501860>>474501860funny since he got hit n the right ear and even your own pic shows (what is supposed to be a bullet) on his right side
