Do you prefer systems with a strict class-based martial/caster division or classless systems that allow anyone to dip into anything at the cost of never being great at it?
>>97246742>Fighters were designed only to fight and Rouges were designed to be skill monkeys. Both classes suffered at higher levels due being pigeon holed.So you think every class should be good at everything? That's shit design.
>>97248962Every class should be good at something meaningful.If a class is dropping off, either what they're good at isn't meaningful, or they aren't designed well enough to engage with it.
>>97249089On that, I agree.
>>97229035>Letting people multi-class inevitably leads to meta gaming.And? Building characters around expressing interesting mechanical ideas is fun, and doing so while also coming up with good rp reasons as for why your character is the way they are ironically makes for even better rp since it usually forces players to venture outside of comfortable tropes and come up with more unique character concepts. A Pallock is obviously a very strong meta gaming class combination, but the potential plot hooks of having someone who is torn between their personal honor code and their obligations to their patron are absurdly juicy from a narrative perspective.
>>97248962Two major issues popped up:1. Casters just got to be good at everything because "muh magic power fantasy" and the weird autistic need for a spell that could solve any problem, so the caster-martial divide became larger and larger.2. If the scope of what a character is meant for is limited enough, it leaves the player with a character that's useless in too many aspects of the game. It's not good design to have a class whose only abilities pertain to combat when a massive chunk of the game consists of non-combat things (and as such things the fighting focused class won't be useful in or interesting to play during that down time).Give casters heavier limits (they should not perform better in combat than fighting focused classes of the same level, they should not be able to just replace a skill monkey in scouting), give all classes more to do in rp heavy social situations and during dungeon crawling, there shouldn't be a class that's completely useless in a major phase of the game.
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>>97249355Do people think her father is Castro as well?
>>97241519>ITEM DESIGNATION: SNW-GLOBE / “The Snowglobe”>ITEM CLASS: Transdimensional Leisure Artifact>HANDLING STATUS: Controlled Recreational Use (Employee Benefit Program)Item SNW-GLOBE is a handheld, sealed snowglobe that functions as a transdimensional conveyance. When activated, the device transports a single individual or a defined group of individuals to an enclosed, self-maintaining extradimensional resort environment. The destination is consistently described as an idyllic ski-resort. Return occurs automatically when the internal snowfall within the globe fully settles.>ACTIVATION & DURATIONActivation Method: Manual inversion (tipping) of the globe.Observed Snowfall Duration: 90–120 seconds (mean: 112 seconds).Perceived Time Elapsed (Subjects): 7–14 days.Objective Time Elapsed (Observers): ≤ 2 minutes.>CRITICAL WARNING:If the globe is tipped a second time before snowfall completion while occupants are still present at the destination, all transported persons are irretrievably lost. No recovery events have been recorded. The globe resumes a dormant state immediately after such an incident.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97249380You'd think they'd put clamps on it
thanks chatgpt, that was a good gen
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Fgo is overOne last Fate mp for the road?
>>97249116you're a subhuman
>>97249116>Fgo is overAll I know about it is that they went for an "It was all a simulation" ending, and only around 3 people will remember it
damn (damn)
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>>97249501Yes. All the legions used all the units. I dont believe the Salamanders were famous for their drop assaults, but drop pods are a very core piece of the marine arsenal, its like asking if a given legion used rhinoes or predators. >So would it be fluffy to throw in a DDP for the Levi?Absolutely, its what its there for. And the loadout suits the salamander character too.
>>97249504Sounds good, looking forward to seeing how it turns out! A ball mount for the legs would allow a lot more posing for sure. Could always just roll a ball of putty?
>>97249519I meant it would look weak. It's cool for an, at-st, or a sentinel or a dreadnought but not a fifty-tonne superstructure.
>>97249350All dreadnoughts are capable of providing fire support to varying degrees, depending on load out of course.The castraferrum and contemptor can also be of assistance in melee, especially against big targets like tanks. The leviathan is even more specialised towards this role. The deredeo is a purely long range fire support platform, whilst the saturnine is more of a mid/short range fire support platform.>>97249431People are under-estimating leviathans quite a bit. Phospex discharger has panic 3, that alone will send most Line units running with their tail between their legs. The other ranged weapons also do quite solid damage, decent enough to fire as it closes the distance during a game. Even a full melee leviathan can have two meltaguns, two heavy flamers or twin volkite calivers, and the phospex discharger. More than enough to clean up 10 tacticals. But the main role that leviathans do well is be too annoying to really ignore, whilst also being too difficult to get rid off easily. A unit locked in combat does not control objectives, so a leviathan standing on/near an objective marker charging anything that comes close, and being generally in the way, is rather obnoxious.And even with siege claws a leviathan will wreck most vehicles, so dropping one into the opponent's parking lot will also achieve its goal of being a brick shaped distraction carnifex.
>>97249457>PROVE ME WRONGI will, because I think third-line should not be a thing at all. We didn't have it before and even Malcadors in Marine lists were said to be third-line tanks by the time of the Heresy, but they didn't bother to enshittify them with extra rules. You could make a provenance for it to represent ramshackle ad hoc formations designed for quantity over quality.
>need to read one or more literal textbooks before being able to engage with the gamehonestly that's kinda crazy
>>97235374How dare someone make you understand the material before you play it.Cmon. People often read entire sourcebooks before playing tabletop games just for fun.
>>97247474Cut it out anon you're going to scare the poor bibliophobic anon. They don't need to realize some of us could be reading a book right now.
>>97235374what game?
>>97247028Gotta love also the DnD really loves their shitty character sheet layout.Yes guys. We love that 'Feats & Traits' is a sliver of space on the front while the back is FULLY DEDICATED BRICKS for 'background' and 'appearance'. Very useful for writing down the stuff you wanna ref easy in game.
>>97245745>the nogames speaks Anon, there's so much shit in the dmg and monster manual that players knowing about fucks up gameplay with you'd know this if you ever contemplated it let along played it. >Monster stats, encounter types, group sizes, weaknesses >treasure distribution, encounter distribution, npc percentage chances of aid, etcetcetc. I'm glad you don't play anything.
>>97243775That's Teslapunk, to the point that Tesla himself is a major character in the narrative.
>>97247411As an aside for the record, the seminal defining work of decopunk is the movie Metropolis (1927).
>>97230970I made alternate history Imperial Japan occupying China using dieselpunk. It was fun, but with less rape.
>>97230970>>97247583Ring of Red is a PS2 strategy game with dieselpunk mechs, and the story is basically "What if the Korean War (i.e. a US-Russia proxy war in the far east) instead took place in 1960s Japan?"
>>97247411
Grogmas in the hive streets editionPrevious Thread:>>97019770Check out here for useful links and a catalogue of relevant miniatures retailers:https://pastebin.com/nnNqqFLnThe Rogue Trader magazine article compilation:https://gofile.io/d/yNK9bq
>>97248757I got you, mate.aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZpbGUvbEtRM0FScUkjNHppQlFyVEZoWUViNkVHYzRBbS1oOVQ4aWhxb0RObHlONHlZd1lyMElSZw==You know what to do.
>>97248821Legend, thank you! I feel like it was just a year or 2 ago I could search for any codex from any edition on Yandex or whatever and find it no problem. Why does James even care about old codices desu
>>97248871That's like asking why a murderer would hide the body of his victim.Those codices are evidence that Warhammer was once something other than what it is planned to become; generic science-fantasy inclusive noblebright slop.They can't have anybody allowed to remember.
>>97248874It did remind me of Stalinist style history erasure. Old codices are historical archives in this context. Comparisons make people ask questions, questions weaken authority. Counter-narratives to the idea of Warhammer™ that they want to sell you must be brutally crushed.
Finished this guy today
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>>97249124It's still not a top tier army in terms of winning tournaments, but it is the gold standard for what an army should be like in terms of variety and balance. They have are at the perfect sweet spot where they aren't too strong or too weak. They are also fun to play and, imo very importantly, fun to play against. There isn't a whole lot that they do that will feel like complete bullshit to the opponent, unless you're showing up with 9+ Fanatics in which case you can (and should) kindly tell the person to fuck right off.Orcs & Goblins is imo by far the best army to collect and play in TOW. The only thing the rules writers failed utterly at were Trolls, but if they can bring them in line somehow then the diversity of the range will just go up exponentially.
>>97249124Theyre kind of disgusting bullshit in TOW. You can tell theyre an army a rules writer played, its like bretonnia. Just avoid fanatics and black orcs and you should be fine though. TOW is, with some exceptions, fairly balanced as an edition.
>>97249244O&G haven't been disgusting bullshit since the patch, they have shitty AoI, bad items, shit lores which are now even worse and practically no answer to the strongest combinations of other armies.
>>97249521>bad items>trollhide trousers at very commonuwot
>>97249538Also the choppiest choppa and some really good arcane items.
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>>97249007DragonsSeriously, they're great for domain level play as factions and monsters. No one has used them for enough for so long they feel fresh again too.
>>97249007Part of the problem with this request is that a T-Rex already canonically has 20 HD in AD&D (and by implication is probably meant to have the same in OD&D), so there aren't a lot of places to go from there. Them and Purple Worms are pretty much the top of the curve of things you can reasonably expect to fight.
>>97249099>% in Lair: 100% unless encountered randomlyHuh! This single reference seems to imply that the normal understanding of what the % in Lair stat is for is completely wrong. Or did Gygax just forget what he was doing by WG6?
>>97249475>Part of the problem with this request is that a T-Rex already canonically has 20 HD in AD&DHigh-level characters can defeat a T. rex easily. There's definitely room for something bigger. >>97249482That's in a module, in which the location of the lair is already given. In that context, I think it just means that if you go to its lair it will be there 100%. (Not something I'd personally do, but I don't think it has any implication for the MM.)
>>97249475In B/X, dragon turtles have 30 HD, and rocs and whales go up to 36 HD. AD&D rocs and dragon turtles are smaller for some reason, but MM whales can also reach 36 HD, and so does the brachyosaurus. In ACKS, krakens also get 36 HD. I think 36 HD is a good number for monsters that are big and stupid and suitable for domain level play.
>Be me.>Lord General of the Nordican 1225th/ defacto governor of Nordica II.>For the last few years we've been abandoned by the wider Imperium to an ice world that very much resembles our home.>In that time we've constructed the city of New Yur.>A sprawling metropolis surrounded by a network of trenches visible from orbit dug by the kriegers and valhallans.>We've also made more or less peace with the orks we were originally sent here to fight, and even made alliances with the ruinous powers, but those truces only last for one day a year.>A day that is fast approaching.>Candlemass brings peace, but also war to Nordica II every year without fail.>This year however the orks have decided to convert the former colloseum constructed by khorne worshipers in the ruins of a space hulk that crashed here into an arena for a sport they're apparently calling "Blood Bowl.">I will be attending the first of these games on Candlemass day, which is set to pit greenskins against some surviving khorne worshipers they've captured.>Emperor willing this will be the beginning of true peace to our world.>But knowing Candlemass that seams unlikely and I'll be waiting the whole time for some new threat to emerge.
>>97249068Sobek is outside the arena near new yur but damaged Tyranids are kinda not doing anything yetEldar corsair is fighting them maybe with polar express And I think that's everyone
>>97249015>>97249068TY>Be Coach/ Cummissar Dixie Rekt>Most of the hostiles are gone, all thats left are the khornates>I go up to the leader and ask if he still wants to play the game with his surviving players>He agrees>MFW my team will finally get to play Blood Bowl in front of everyone here>I head off to get everyone in position for the second round of Blood Bowl.
Felinid Sgt.Tom again>>97247505Same, I was there for "Damnatum Lutum" back in 2018. I was the Pig Shit Farmer, turned Archbishop, turn Living Saint.>>97247691Fair point... how about a hella polluted Hive/Forge world? A jungle of concrete and steel or sorts? >Picture it: Lakes of toxic waste and hab blocks stacked on top of each other like Kowloon Walled City.How about a vote?>Feral World with a Mega-resortor>Hive/Forge World known for being polluted and over built? >>97247691Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97241712>>97248998>Be Lieutenant Abdul Abby of the Tallarn 454th.>I managed to get a full crew for my Hellhound, along with a crew for two Leman Russes (a Vanquisher and Executioner respectively) and a couple other trooper that just want to tag along (even managed to rope in a kroot) just in time as the Felinids show up with a Chimera offering to transport the crates.>Their commissar talks with the Repentia Superior for a bit and we decide on the formation:>My Hellhound takes point. >The leman Russes at the flanks.>In the middle we have the Chimera with the hot chocolate being driven by the felinid comissar.>And surrounding that is the human (and one kroot) guardsmen and Repentia.>At the rear we have the felinids.>We make our way through the city without getting attacked so far.>But given we're about to head into a district that was infected by Nurgle last year and may have some plague zombie stragglers left over that may change.
>>97249545I vote Forge World. Had a lot of fun the last time we did one and I've got some new ideas.Also AdMech could use some love in these.
You have to play Monopoly.Which Monopoly do you play?
>>97248543I've seen versions for cities less than 20 miles apart >>97248112>>97248511I'd be genuinely interested in playing both modes, at least once each as "an experience" if nothing elseThe other answer is I'd buy Make-your-own-opoly and have more fun with my board game group making the thing than the game we had afterwards (idk if the make-your-own version lets you change the rules, maybe it does)
>>97248559Everything I've seen anyone do to change the rules makes the game longer, and therefore worse.
>>97247712I choose death before Monopoly.
>>97247712Whichever is fastest is someone has at least made a shortened version of that fuckshow. Failing that whichever is themed around an actually good game I can bring out instead.
>>97247712Star Wars (no sequel content)
Christmas Edition>Previous thread:>>97173638Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, Kill Team,Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim,Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds,Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster ...... and any other GW system and board game are welcome.>Helpful resources: (feel free to suggest additions!)https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0V>TQComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Necromunda question: The Sha'dar Hunters kit is a doubled-up sprue like most Necromunda stuff, right? And does that mean you'd have plenty of weapon bits left over after building them?
>>97249357Yes.The only non-double sprues kits are Orrus Spyrers and Ashwing Helamite. (and this shit suck)
>>97249368Thanks!
>>97249301To actually answer your question, WYSIWYG doesn't really matter for necromunda, your gangers will change weapons throughout each campaign and noone expects you to have 50+ individually modeled loadouts.
>>97242206I remember when I first started wargaming I was pretty excited to build and paint even before I gamed.
>dwarf speaks>scottish accent
>>97236812He literally does it every Christmas break by now
>>97233287yikes
>>97236758Why would they be Jewish? Dwarves are strong warriors and laborers who created massive tunnels and holds and fine artisans. Jews are a culture whose entire history is spend as vagabonds moving from host country to host country. Jews have never been known artisans of skilled tradesman or involved in labor. The only comparison you can make with dwarfs is the "gold" motiff, but this is a weak basis to compare them to Jews, because most cultures love gold. Celts, Aztecs, Vikings, Romans, etc. everyone loves gold. If anything Jews "gold" has never actually been hoarding actual treasure but aquiring wealth is less straightforward means, ie. usury banking, coin clipping, etc.
>>97238927No, anon. However, if I'm having an in-character discussion, I'm obviously playing a roleplaying game, because roleplaying games aren't actually baseball, IC discussions are a part of them, and the only context where I'd ever have such a discussion is that of RPGs. It's fine to try to make your point through an anaolgue, but it'd help if you used something actually analogous with what we're talking about.
>>97233279>loves beer>engineering>lives in cavesShould have always been German
This is a second OSRG, seperate from the main osrg thread, where you CAN talk about 2e, retroclones, and any osr content you want.This is different than the regular osrg as due to rampant trolling from a handful of bad actors, discussion is impossible.PREVIOUS THREAD>>97206318
>>97248044It's pretty great. Might be a top 10 adventure.
>>97248044The above ground section is pretty great if you change some names (like Toaster the wizard), but imo it gets real fuckin linear and boring once you get underground
>>97248044If you play your cards right, you can have some nasty sex with a dirt-caked druid while her wolves watch.
>>97248609A lot of the 2E Dungeon Magazine adventures were apparently OK to good.
>>97247426At my table there's one other guy who DMs sometimes, and everyone else is pure player. Basically that one guy has opinions about things, and so do I, and everyone else just gets mad if they don't understand a rule because whichever one of us was running didn't make it clear enough (a rare occurrence these days).The things we disagree on are just different when I run versus when he runs.What I'm saying is, I have a lot of experience DMing and a bit of experience playing, and I've never seen a table where there's multiple voices on something important like metagame resources or which optional rules are in play, and I'm sorry that a table of players engaged at that level couldn't be smooth.I'm not sold on any of that metagame currency stuff, but in the past I've handed out magic items that can save a character's ass once, or something like that- which is at least an adjacent capability, even if its less reliable. I'm generally of the idea that if a character dies early it's a great reason to roll a new character, but later on its just a cost and at most a quest, with rare exceptions, and that's just going on the fact that essentially every possible elfgame always has a mechanic for a priest to raise an adventurer from the dead.
+++ADMINISTRATUM PASS KEY ACCEPTED+++>Loading message...Welcome to yet another glorious day in your officio station revered clerk of the Administratum.Your efforts in compiling the information on [Vokaris Sector] and its eight subsectors have been further garnering plenty of praise from your peers and lords above your meager station, we implore you to resume your task to gather this stellar data about this sector in our glorious Imperium of ManA brief reminder that as data comes in to your cogitator station via the servitors around you, you will have to compile it and make this sector whole again.May the God Emperor continue to guide you clerk Anon.Hello there, Anons of /tg/. If anyone is still interested in this fun project, here is the whole sector - updated with the discovered planets so far - where we can continue to create together, using the planet generator found on 1d6chan.Previous thread >>971016821d6 page>https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Setting:Vokaris_SectorComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Rolled 3, 8, 10, 9 + 20 = 50 (4d10 + 20)>>97245456Another one.
>>97245642>Mid Imperial: Most of the technology of the Imperium can be found. Only the most obscure or scarcely found items of technology can’t be found on these worlds (very rare availability items cannot be purchased). The PDF is guaranteed to pack plasma weapons and other demanding ordnance for its specialists. Most Imperial worlds are at this level.Roll 2d10, 1d10, 1d5, 1d5, 1d5, 4d10, and 1d5 for adepta presence.
Rolled 8, 9, 3, 9, 9, 5, 1 = 44 (7d10)>>97245724
Rolled 2, 4, 3, 3 = 12 (4d5)>>97245724
>>97247461>>97247550>Administratum: Notable. A powerful force in its own area of the planet.>Arbites: None>Astra Telepathica: None>Astronomica: Token. For administrative purposes only.>Mechanicus: None>Ministorum: Major. A powerful and influential force throughout the planet.>Inquisition: None 1d100 for the size of the planet
