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Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to first-decade, Gygaxian D&D, its faithful modern clones, and content created for use with them. Later editions (2e and newer) should be discussed elsewhere.

Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to Dungeons & Dragons played as intended by its creators from 1974 to 1983 — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching metaplots and a greater emphasis on player agency.

If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about: we'll be happy to help you get started. We also have two excellent beginner guides created by Anons with feedback from the thread that you can check for help:

>n00b DM's Guide
https://pastebin.com/EVvt6P0B

>n00b Player's Handbook
https://pastebin.com/XALkXkV0

>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:
http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128


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>>97825868
I don't have it in front of me right now, but isn't one of the item saves against crushing or smashing or something like that? I'm pretty sure it's fairly straightforward to use the saves.
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>>97822154
From a paleontological viewpoint, the "dinosaurs had feathers" line is overstated. The best evidence we have is that it was primarily or nearly exclusively theropods, and even then coelurosaurs, and even then not even all coelurosaurs

Likely to had/have feathers
>modern birds
>tyrannosaurs
>a lot of raptors
>ornithomimosaurs (ostrich like dinosaurs)
>compsognathids (no common name but I think the little chicken sized ones are in the Jurassic Park movies)

Not known to have feathers, or even strongly believed not to because because high quality skin prints have been found
>allosaurs
>spinosaurs
>some with raptor in their names
>ceratopsians

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>>97827306
Wait, so, tyrannosaurs had feathers but not the morphologically near-identical allosaurs? How does that work? Freakishly convergent evolution? Tyrannosaurid carcinization?
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>>97827306
>There's a problem with pic related and it's not that the blue-grey spinosaur is featherless. What's the problem?
Just guessing here, but some possibilities:
>the parasaurolophus was a swamp/shore dwelling animal and wouldn't be fucking around on a dry plain of some sort
>I think it's supposed to have a ducklike bill rather than a deer muzzle?
>for all I know the two species were separated by millions of years and/or existed on separate continents
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>>97827395
They probably did, there's a lot of pushback against feathered dinos on 4chan as part of the whole anti-modern-[blank] thing. /an/ in particular has a schizo who thinks that it's a secret plot by the jews, trying to turn dinosaurs gay, lol

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It's Da PDF Share Thread!

STEP 0:
<----- That image is not a PDF, it's an image, at least for now. Check the 4plebs link below to find the PDF.
PLEASE READ DA FAQ BEFORE REQUESTING OR SHARING.
It will answer 99% of your questions about this thread. If you haven't read it, we will know.

STEP 1:
Please exhibit good manners. Threads start sliding off the board after a certain number of posts. More posts wasted on being rude means fewer posts available for sharing.

STEP 2:
Request, share, stay awesome!

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>>97826999

g0f1le /d/HnRRAz
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Anyone knows if:

Imperium Maledictum: Adeptus Mechanicus GM's Guide PDF

Is out yet?
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Requesting Ninja Crusade 2e plus any supplements if possible.
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Kindly requesting (french magazine) Casus Belli V4 50 (the last one)
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Kindly requesting Star Trek Adventures, thanks

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Is there ANY miniature wargame that isn't insanely expensive? I'm talking about things you can buy in a box and play immediately, not "print your own minis" bullshit or things where you're forced to use proxies cause official models don't exist.
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>>97823816
It's well known that GW employees can buy gw stuff at a discount
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>>97824791
>below industry average pay
>...but you get a discount!
Good. So all GW employees are "true fans", aka exploited manchidlren. Meanwhile paypiggies feed the system money that floats on top.
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>>97824775
Make two armies and demo it, smaller games are always going to be passion projects and run off local community organization. That's part of the regional context you're talking about.
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>>97822986
NTA, but I thought the argument was that designing the packaging for gw was or wasn't a cost. Moving the goal posts to the salary level for graphic designers is either in bad faith, or retarded.
If your argument was that the designers are unpaid interns you would have had a point, but at gw they are paid poorly.
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>>97822716

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I always hear about the stir this caused, and recently about how bad or redeemable it is. I'm not certain about it myself because I dabbled with 3e and then got into 5e, never paid much attention to the scene during that entire era. What does /tg/ think of the system?
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>>97820924
I believe it
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>>97826242
good post
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>>97826882
The reality is no one who enjoys 4e will call it D&D. It's a constant complaint that tying it in with the D&D brand did more damage to it than aided it. It has its strengths, it has its weaknesses. One can either take it as it or leave it.

>>97826889
Such as?
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>>97824276
They're not. They're expanded on in the Rules Compendium, a few Dragon Magazine articles, and the Dark Sun material.
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>>97826997
nta The Rules Compendium came out in late 2010. Dark Sun campaign book came out in mid to late 2010, if that's even the book it's in. 4e came out in mid 2008. I found half a column in the 4e DMG, that was it. There were a couple f skills or something in the PHB that were good for wilderness.

Having to wait more than two years for a book to be published, or regularly read a magazine in the hopes of stumbling across an article or two, or having to buy a setting book that also came out more than 2 years later, for something that was a core D&D feature is a dumb way of doing things.

There's very little obvious wilderness rules material in the Dark Sun campaign book. There are two pages about travel and survival. Is there more?

A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.

Spectres minis edition

>Adepticon roadmaps:
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-legion/
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-shatterpoint/

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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion
>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1ze

Star Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)
>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaA

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>>97827302
It is star wars, commie, not 'tr00n wars'. Take your shitposting faggotry of non-cannon 'current year'-ing fuckery and gtfo.
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>>97827307
There is nothing communist or transgender about a little girl. You are delusional and playing the victim and make legends fans look bad. No one is forcing you to like Omega just respect those that do. Stop being a crybaby.
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>>97826079
What? You don’t think having to cough up at least 4,000 credits for a tank’s worth of bacta is enough? They have to pull together that much credits every time someone needs time in a bacta tank?
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>>97827314
That will never not be a tr00n, you fuck, it will never be a little girl.
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>>97827398
Omega lives in your head rent free

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If a wizard turned your six inch penis into a one inch penis the leftover mass to energy would be more devastating than the Hiroshima bomb
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>>97710539
the wizard in your picture would listen to that information and then go through with it anyway
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>>97719110
Jannies don't have ban powers, only mods do. You'd know this if this wasn't your first day on 4chan.
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>>97822713
Jannies summon the moderators. The moderators do their bidding.
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Wizard threads always seem to be about math and genitals.
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>>97729578
I like to think of myself as someone who would play games.

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Given that anime and anime inspired cartoon styles have become pretty much the norm or at least incredibly common in most other forms of indie entertainment (TTRPGs, videogames, comics, animation, even miniature wargames). How comes it remains a relatively rare style to find in board games, an industry that operates almost entirely in the form of independent creators and small studios? How comes it still carries associations of being an art-style of games "for kids"?

It was so strange when pic related came out seeing people "warning" others that even tho "it looks like a game for kids, it's actually quite difficult and heavy".
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>>97827255
Maybe Japanese children are just more careful with their toys than you are.
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>>97827258
The entire group of “Animation is Cinema!” Crowd that talks about how mature Puss in Boots: Last Wish was but has never heard of Anomalisa.
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>>97827338
I gave my Death Scythe Hell model to a small Japanese child to play with, and he foided it a thousand times and broke all the joints.

I was so angry with him I rolled up a newspaper and tried beating him with it, but he caught it, folded it a thousand times, and made a hundred swans.
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>>97827141
>that are definitely toy commercials and definitely(at least at first) were aimed at kids
this is 90% of the reason that gundam was shortened to 40 episodes and would have been a footnote in japanese history if teenage girls werent writing letters to bring the show back

gundam being aimed at kids was their biggest mistake because the teens who actually liked the show didnt buy the toys
which is why when gundam came back with the compilation movies, the toys were gone and replaced with plastic model kits squarely aimed at older buyers
then when zeta gundam came out, the show was made from the ground up to cater to the seinen demographic, with silly elements like the gundam hammer removed, and with the mecha re-made to be more plamo friendly instead of toy friendly
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>>97827342
I just read a summary of that anomalisa movie and it reads like a lynchean fever dream. What the fuck

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So, now you need to decide. Do you close your eyes to what you've seen and go back to sleep? Or do you come with this psycho burnout and do the impossible against the unbelievable and keep the future at bay for another day? What's it going to be? In or out?

Yeah? You dumb shit.

>Thread Question:
What’s a moment where your players genuinely surprised you and "broke" your scenario?

>Unofficial Resources:
https://delta-green.neocities.org
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>>97817455
It's directly based off of Delta Green's Misery Engine, with some CoC/BRP stuff tacked on (credit rating, other skills, etc).
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>>97806526
Eh, I've been having fun with God's Teeth. Maybe that is my Handler doing some heavy lifting, but it never seemed too edgy (by the standards of the setting).

We're clearly coming up on the end of it. Which is for the best, since my agent just choked out and kidnapped his handler. Need to figure out how to finish the mission before the Program can stop me. Secondary goal, need to ensure the mission stays completed, even after I'm out of the picture. Tertiary, need to figure out how to survive once it is all over.
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>>97820147
I read through it. It has a couple good ideas, and that's about all the positives I can say about it.

Nu-Delta Green sux.
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Another preview from The Millennium.

The Army of the Third Eye

>g0f!l3 [dot] io/d/Pu7HAr
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>>97820147
>>97826214
I think that the core idea of God's Teeth is pretty good, and I really enjoyed the original actual plays that came out eons ago, but it's annoying that the game has been around for almost a decade now and the two campaigns that we have are both subversions of the "normal" Delta Green campaign that span the conspiracy and current eras and involve themes of agency, or lack thereof. The only other """*campaign"""" they've put forth is a series of 3 railroads and something I barely even remember in control group. It would have been nice to just take a single occult conspiracy, and then do an entire book about breaking that open. Instead it's just a constant stream of campaign frames for monster of the week games. DG needs its version of Masks.

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Archives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoag
Allsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3
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I will simp for Armomage until she gives me what I want.
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>>97827386

Work in Progress, "No Foolin'!" Edition

>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD

>WIP Tutorial Images Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw

>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno

>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s

>Paint thinning 102

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These new tonks might be what finally gets me to return to 40k
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>>97827089
i bought the first result on amazon for vortex mixer for $25. no issues so far
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>>97827144
Being 100% honest. I got a half mast at that metallic job. It almost looks like it's blued, that's really nice. What did you do to achieve that look?
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>>97827156
Thank you!

>>97827325
Thanks, it looks blue because it is done with blue metallics. Here was the process and paints for the blue metallic parts.

Paints used
Matte black primer
Vallejo true metallic metal Ultramarine blue base
Vallejo true metallic metal Ultramarine blue shade
Vallejo true metallic metal sapphire blue base
Vallejo true metallic metal sterling silver base

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Zombie Aroden Edition

>>IF YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION, PLEASE SPECIFY WHICH GAME YOU'RE PLAYING<<

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/pfg/ (pathfinder 1e) link repository: https://pastebin.com/RSt0rF0T
/p2g/ (pathfinder 2e) link repository: https://pastebin.com/1zySxwm3
/sfg/ (starfinder) link repository: https://pastebin.com/5yp9s2U3

>>CHECK THE SHARE THREAD FOR MATERIALS<<

TQ: Tell us about an undead/undead adjacent (e.g., necromancer) character you have played. What choices are missing, if any?
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>>97812953
Witch IS pathfinder's equivalent to warlock, it doesn't have eldritch blast or anything but both are arcane spellcasters who get their magic from a pact with a powerful magic entity. Although I'll give you pathfinder's patrons lean towards the more distant and mysterious rather than the kind that has a chance to breath down your neck.

>>97813494
It also makes sense that witch and warlock would get mixed up in localization considering warlock is often the term for a male witch and witch hunting people thought all magic came from pacts with the devil anyways.
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>>97826796
Honestly Oracle? Is probably the closest to a Warlock. You aren't making a pact but you are getting fucked around with.
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>>97826527
This one's good but frankly the most busted shit in that book are the benefits of the Order of the Chain.

At 8th level they get a 2 action activity thats basically slam down but for grapple. Except if you use a flail or a spiked chain, you upgrade successes to crits on the grapple.

And then at 12th for another feat they just get to ignore crit fails on all Grapple checks. Oh and also once you have someone grabbed, if they fail to Escape they actually crit fail instead (so they cant try again until their next turn) and if they crit succeed (which would let them move away for free) it gets downgraded to a pass.

Paizo really arent beating the allegations of not playtesting this shit. And it stands out even more because the other hellknight options are meh, except the one that lets you be a peeping tom.
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>>97827208
https://2e.aonprd.com/HellknightOrders.aspx?ID=1
It's a reprint, but also a buff.

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>>97822189
An artist who knew he was being tasked with doing evil, but wanted to make his money and take the piss at the same time.
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It’s 2026 and demographics are changing. Long gone are the days when magic was relegated to pasty yT pinkies with Cheeto fingers and neck beards. Magic is for everyone
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>>97822181
I don't think you know what evil is.
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>>97823680
Oh I believe I do.
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>>97817350
That is someone’s son

Welcome to /wbg/, the official thread for the discussion of in-progress settings for traditional games.

Here is where you go to present and develop the details of your worlds such as lore, factions, magic and ecosystems. You can also post maps for your settings, as well as any relevant art (either created by you or used as inspiration for your work). Please remember that dialogue is what keeps the thread alive, so don't be afraid of giving someone feedback or post whatever relevant input you might have!

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Resources for Newfags: https://sites.google.com/view/wbgeneral/
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Fantasy map generator: https://watabou.itch.io/medieval-fantasy-city-generator
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Tira: https://discord.com/invite/f52W6Kg
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>>97825870
Pre-USSR Russia?
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Been thinking about roads again.
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>>97826060
>Any good ways to explain the difference between a mortal and a monster in your fantasy setting?
I have three different types of soul, the aetheric soul of mortals, the elemental animus of elementals (elementals that have become self aware/distinct "races" essentially) and I forgot what I called the liminal/fae version. So "monsters" would be different from mortals on a fundamental level. Although mortals can become corrupted or otherwise changed into monstrous forms so I guess the distinction isn't so clear cut in all scenarios.
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What are your in world slurs? Do elves call dwarfs diggers?
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>>97827264
Race based slurs aren't really impactful or all that insulting/offensive in my setting.
Like the Blooded might refer to "lesser" peoples as stock (as in livestock, you know, because they literally feed off them or use them for their utility). But people are generally more concerned with what the blooded do, not what they say. There are still stories from before the Apex was revived, when powerful blooded did whatever they pleased in their domain, including horrific fleshcrafting and unethical experimentation. So just being referred to with dehumanizing language is basically nothing.

Fera will refer to humans as hairless or baldies, since fera are covered in body hair. But it's generally seen as a childish insult with no real impact or venom behind it.
Lizardmen will occasionally call the other races apes, but again there is no bite behind it.

People got more serious shit to deal with then fantasy racism.

Hell, to the people in Centennial, comments about piss and shit are FAR more offensive to them.
Meanwhile to the people of Soul, blasphemy in general and especially blasphemy against their main god Sol, are fighting words that will get you killed. They have zero tolerance for it.

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“The strength of a wizard isn’t in how much magic they can muster, but how effective their magic is in effect”

What’s more powerful? The wizard who can blow up planets or the wizard who can control one (1) mind without any defence against it?
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>>97764591
Tru
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Kek. Magic is always arbitrarily powerful.
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Derp.
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>>97764591
I say the one that plays games
you should look into it
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>>97824316
Huh?

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>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.

The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, SAGA, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void,
Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.

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>>97822296
>TQ: there are lots of IPs that could easily be turned into successful wargames

>zelda
>monster hunter
>pokémon
>super smash bros
>final fantasy tactics
>league of legends
>overwatch
>team fortress 2
>helldivers
>warframe
>apex legends
>cyberpunk2077

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>>97826761
>street fighter

I seen one already where it's just a flat board and like two or three fighters per side looked like
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>>97826761
>Marathon
>successful
Next you'll ask for a Highguard or Concord.
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>>97827176
You know there was 3 Marathon games before the GAAS one, right?
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>>97826761
>>d&d forgotten realms
D&D's had a bunch of minis games, even leaving aside the mass battle rules for the RPG and OG Chainmail.


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