After about 8 years since I last DM'ed a game, I've been asked to run a session. Unfortunately my books - adnd, 2e, 3e, 3.5, 4e, and 5e are in storage two states away.And i prefer physical copies. Thanks to critical role and the movie DND books have gone up in price which is weird.>4e books are ~10-15$ now. Is it viable to run 4e in 2025? I don't remember hating it and I still remember some home rules to streamline combat to speed it up a touch. Does anyone have suggestions for 1-3lvl adventures or campaign settings? >4e thread I guess
>>97287060It was from the DMG1, so it was based on old math. Hence why.
>>97287056>quick random encountersQuick random encounters are shit. If there's no chance of the party losing then you should either handwave the fight or not have it at all. Its the same as having players roll for shit that has 0 consequences for failure.
>>97287040Sorry, I should have clarified better that I would not be running ALL of seasons 8-12 but using them as guidelines and idea resources to run the short campaign. As for how long, I was thinking maybe from levels 1 to 5. Some of the players are major skeptics to the systems (one player in particular) but they have agreed that if I were to run they would play but only for a short campaign to get a feel for how the system works and whether "it's as bad as people say" basically.
>>97287089You do multiple ~15 min quick fights more for power fantasy and resource attrition. Blasting through a small pack of weak mooks with at-wills and maybe an encounter power lets the PCs feel strong while giving them a few nicks and bruises to eat away the their healing surges. This actually heightens feelings of progression and they also give bigger fights a greater sense of gravitas and grandeur compared to every fight being a 1+ hour tactical slog.
>>97287194>resource attritionThat only works if you prevent them from resting between fights. Otherwise all they're realistically losing is a couple healing surges which is incredibly marginal.
Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to first-decade, Gygaxian D&D, its faithful modern clones, and content created for use with them. Later editions (2e and newer) should be discussed elsewhere. And as we enter this happiest and newest of years, remember: 2e was never an old-school game, bait is for reporting, and fish is for smoking! Happy new year, grogs! Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to Dungeons & Dragons played as intended by its creators from 1974 to 1983 — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching metaplots and a greater emphasis on player agency. If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about: we'll be happy to help you get started. We also have two excellent beginner guides created by Anons with feedback from the thread that you can check for help: >n00b DM's Guidehttps://pastebin.com/EVvt6P0B>n00b Player's Handbookhttps://pastebin.com/XALkXkV0 >Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128 >Need a starter dungeon? Here's a curated collection:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97286631>>97286698>HyperboreaI guess it's fine if you like it, but suggesting Hyperborea to someone who's asking about AD&D is misleading at best.
>>97286902No it isn't. Hyperborea is basically the core of AD&D but without a nonsense Gygax initiative system.
>>97286902>>97286698 (me)Hyperborea definitely shares the bones but it really is its own thing. I actually quite enjoy segmented combat, so it's something I'd likely houserule back into Hyperborea.
>>97286902NAYRT but IMO it makes perfect sense. You can agree that OSRIC is the most faithful AD&D retroclone and still think Hyperborea is the *better* AD&D retroclone. LotFP occupied a very similar niche relative to B/X pre-OSE: I don't think anybody would have argued it was more faithful than Labyrinth Lord. People just liked it better.
>>97287008I think that's a fair point. Though I guess you'd want to qualify what sort of retroclone it is as >>97286631did.
If you told me a few years ago that I'd be primarily using fucking Army Painter warpaints I would've called you a retard. Genuinely what a gargantuan upgrade from the old crap, can't recommend it enough
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>>97284166It was obviously comical hyperbole but since it went right over your head and you're being a humourless dick about it.Guy who learnt his techniques as a kid and has to match hundreds of years old paints, glazes, finishes using materials which he has often has first to source the raw materials for, many of which haven't been made for centuries, before he can try mixing them without knowing the exact proportion of ground, pigments, solvents, binders, other additives, size of pigment particles, how they will be affected by the need to layer, apply a surface treatment, sand down, match texture, artificially age, let alone all the other work he does in reconstruction and repair before he can even apply the colour since all of those will affect the colour matching.versusBuy a couple of paints off the shelf.Use a measuring spoon or pipette.Your comparison is invalid and unreasonable.
>>97277739It really isn't once you're used to it. Especially with dropper bottles. If in doubt just use a syringe/pipette
>>97286702okay so you are genuinely retarded, good to know. a person can spend whatever amount of time and paint mixing shit till they get the right formula or they can buy the same color thats used on the box for like, 2 dollars more than normal. Seems like a pretty easy choice to me.
>>97277498Same. When I was a newbie I had mostly Citadel like a basic baby faggot.Tried AP 2.0 and its great, a few bucks cheaper than Citadel too.
why are many creators so afraid of making a setting with napoleonic wars era technology?
>>97285005Why haven't you ever played traditional games?
>>97286280They can at most take credit for the naval part of the war.
>>97286742>NAYRT but that would be an oddity.Yes, that was implicit in my previous post, thank you.
>>97286011>thing but redrawn as trannime
>>97286137>running away>heroic and legendaryOK sweetie
If you could choose the set of core classes (in the PHB/core book and ideally the rest of the classes are designed around them) what would you choose?They don't have to be identical to their current incarnations.For me its,>Ranger,absorbs a lot of the fighter but keeps the independent survivalist schtick.>Paladin, Divine warrior with special abilities but no spells>Rogue,Sneaky stabby martial, basically as he is now>Wizard,>Druid,>Cleric,Default to being lightly armoured wandering friar tuck type character, but with options to put on some armour and bonk.
>>97280721>a post that literally addressed the topic wasn't a contributionKAnd to be clear, I'm not talking about these posts:>>97280438>>97280482...I'm talking about the post I made upthread that got ignored.
>>97284592I'm sorry that happened to you. which post was it so I can give you a (you)?
>>97279286What is the difference meaningfully between Monk 'wuxia' behaviour, fighter enhanced ability scores and rogue skills?It's mostly the monk I'm, and what you mean by wargame abilities on the fighter, that I'm struggling to understand.
>>97285758>What is the difference meaningfully between Monk 'wuxia' behaviour, fighter enhanced ability scores and rogue skills?Lists of increasingly-wonky techniques on the Monk versus throwing big numbers into "default" rules until things get wonky on the Fighter versus using an actual skill subsystem that bundles functions into areas of proficiency that get wonky when you're That Good with the Rogue."Weaboo Fightan Magic" is an old pejorative for the Tome of Battle supplement for 3.5, back-porting a later-abandoned 4e prototype into a subsystem with classes substituting for the Fighter, Monk, and Paladin. It has stuff like covering your sword with a jet of flames for extra damage and reach at 3rd level, generally once per encounter due to the refresh mechanics but being 3.5 there are naturally shenanigans to loop.>and what you mean by wargame abilities on the fighterBefore WotC got the IP, it was expected that higher-level characters eventually got positions of political power lording over increasing numbers of class-appropriate NPCs, which grounded the scope-creep of enemies surmounted in actual setting influence which in turn compensated for the proactive value of spellcasting by letting the Fighter send dudes to get things done in a number of places simultaneously because the casters became bosses of a lot less dudes. In the earliest versions, this directly cited the wargame preceding D&D called Chainmail for resolving combats with dozens to hundreds of participants.
>>97286998>Lists of increasingly-wonky techniques on the Monk versus throwing big numbers into "default" rules until things get wonky on the Fighter versus using an actual skill subsystem that bundles functions into areas of proficiency that get wonky when you're That Good with the Rogue.I meant out of combat, sorry should have clarified.I'm aware about the weaboo fightan magic but as it's written it looks like it'd have the usual awkwardness of the fighter and potentially also the monk sitting around whenever its not killing time while rogues and wizards solve everything, unless the GM gives the fighter a bone and he gets to punch a big rock.I think every class should have a decent degree of application in and out of combat encounters. Overhauling the skill system a bit would help (Don't base skill ranks gained on INT). But also just giving every class some abilities related to non-combat action, just as tracking and survivalism to the Ranger/Fighter.
Why do "modern" and modern people go insane when they see some eldritch blorblo, but Conan could just kill it without going "aaaaaahhh save me niggerman!!!!!"
>>97283001>Plenty of Conan characters lost their shit looking at horrors of the outer dark retardYeah but nobody on this board reads the Conan Stories. Their conan knowledge is almost exclusively limited to the shitty movies, comics and frazetta art. They don't read any of Howard's conan stories let alone his non conan tales.>"Worms of the earth, back into your holes and burrows! Ye foul the air and leave on the clean earth the slime of the serpents ye have become! Gonar was right—there are shapes too foul to use even against Rome!">He sprang from the Ring as a man flees the touch of a coiling snake, and tore the stallion free. At his elbow Atla was shrieking with fearful laughter, all human attributes dropped from her like a cloak in the night.>"King of Pictland!" she cried, "King of fools! Do you blench at so small a thing? Stay and let me show you real fruits of the pits! Ha! ha! ha! Run, fool, run! But you are stained with the taint—you have called them forth and they will remember! And in their own time they will come to you again!">He yelled a wordless curse and struck her savagely in the mouth with his open hand. She staggered, blood starting from her lips, but her fiendish laughter only rose higher.>Bran leaped into the saddle, wild for the clean heather and the cold blue hills of the north where he could plunge his sword into clean slaughter and his sickened soul into the red maelstrom of battle, and forget the horror which lurked below the fens of the west. He gave the frantic stallion the rein, and rode through the night like a hunted ghost, until the hellish laughter of the howling were-woman died out in the darkness behind.
>>97283372>Conan>perfect incurioushave you ever read Howard's work ?
>>97287123Nobody on this board actually reads the Conan stories. Secondaries are a plague
>>97281870You go insane not because of alien geometries. You go insane because as a modern man, you have been taught that man is the master of cosmos, then faced with the reality that you are not even a flea next to cosmic monsters.
>>97287164>because as a modern man, you have been taught that man is the master of cosmos,nobody believes this
Posting maps and NPCs
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>>97282999I thought you were posting NPCs too
>>97283045wish we would have gotten more fey realms than just this one, like we have gotten various domains of dread
I liked Wild Beyond the Witchlight. It was a little bit too lolzrandumb and modern, but it was still good. Way better than Curse of Strahd if you ask me. The carnival was very kino in my imagination.
A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.Sheev I'm NJO editionPrevious: >>97217145Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1zeStar Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaAOther FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yNComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97286841There's very little difference between this and a Gamorrean or a Mon Calamari
>>97269643Is this kleio related?
>>97286897gamorrean are atleast Green, with meaner tusks than pigs or boars.this is two steps removed from 'What's up doc'.
>>97286936True, I should have added that he needs gribblies of some sort to not JUST be a space bunneh
>>97286841Old Marvel comics are as corny as you can get, and it's Star Wars we're talking about. How did you not hear about Jaxxon before?Also once you're done come back and tell us if there's anything salvageable in those comics.
Christmas Edition>Previous thread:>>97173638Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, Kill Team,Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim,Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds,Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster ...... and any other GW system and board game are welcome.>Helpful resources: (feel free to suggest additions!)https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0V>TQComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97283249I wish we could actually determine which of these two things was most often happening:1) new players are learning which gangs are "originals" and are specifically making the decision to play Enforcer/Squat/CGC to somehow distinguish themselves as fresh unbiased players2) new players aren't really doing the research to even know which gangs are originals, and Enforcers/Squats/CGC just legitimately have the most widely-appealing aesthetics of all the new designs
>>97286385Both Enforcers and Squat had influx of releases in short period of time and that sparked interest in new players.Enforcer is the most request gang for a long time due to them carried a legacy of being overpowered in old necromunda, their pop culture reference to Judge Dredd, and their status of being the police in a criminal gang wars game, making new players more attracted to them.
>red primary>black secondary>silver metallic>gold metallic accentsIs this too many colors for a team? Imperial Nobility
>>97285863>>97281343The original design of BF:G isn't a tournament game. It's a campaign game. A lot of the other elements descend from that. There were two types of fleet: "Battle" fleets, and "Raider" fleets. In the original version, the Imps and Chaos were the Battlefleets, with a couple of special scenario units (the BSFs and Planet Killer, Marine allies). Orks and Corsair Eldar were Raiders, whose fleets were meant to cap out at about 1k point rosters. Marines were purely allies, and never meant to be a coherent fleet at all. But hey. Eldar were the main antagonists in Space Fleet, and we have some ideas. So a battleship and a few more light cruisers wouldn't hurt for funsies. And here, have some neat shit in the Journal we based on kitbashes people put together.Then the Armageddon campaign came out and they needed to make Orks a battle fleet, Marines independent so the Bangles could have the Best Vacation Ever, and oh hell the Imp Navy has been good so they can have some more neat shit like that all-Lance BB we've been joking about for ages. But that means Imps have too much flexibility? Time to introduce sector fleet rules! Anyway. Tau were not-quite Battle fleet testing the modular fleet concept, with options for sickos to use them in campaigns; Forge World didn't get the memo and made their own. Demiurg are (like Marines) an Ally fleet, and as Forge World they got abandoned immediately. Necrons have always been an "experimental" Raider fleet because they never quite nailed down the rules and everyone fucking hated them. Nids burst in fully-formed as a battlefleet with modular fleets, and Dark Eldar were intended to be Raiders using the same ideas. Mechanicus was a straight replacement/upgrade option for Imp Navy players who liked more elite forces (taking the Marines' usual design space). RT were also an Ally option with a single ship, that sort of got tied into the Tau/Demiurg/wolfpack because they were all coming out at the same time
>>97286385Enforcers seems to be an aesthetic choice from what I've experienced so far. Especially if they're people coming from 40K. Its hard to break out of bolt guns and uniforms I guess.
Is it really good etiquite to have seriously "heavy" and depressing themes in your tabletop campaign as opposed to just lighthearted evening fun or cynically detached/ironic grimderpness?
>>97286063Try playing games sometimes and see how it goes.
>>97286489You are my friend now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWNNjIIq4TA
>>97286063>Is it really good etiquite to have seriously "heavy" and depressing themes in your tabletop campaign as opposed to just lighthearted evening fun or cynically detached/ironic grimderpness?Yes. If anything, it's the other way around: unrequested cynicism/ironism/grimderp is insulting.
>>97286063>>97286248>>97286440>What is session 0
>>97286063Unless the game was posited as a darker game, its likely a good idea to have a mix of >serious>unusual >weird>light etc. Most games are mechanically built around uncertainty enough that there are going to be outlier rolls and results that necessitate mixture. You won't be able to sustain too much anything you listed. Even if its all detached or ironic people develop attachments and emotional affiliation with all sorts of shit by accident so in a campaign players and the gm will start to care even if its suppose to be casual.
>Brutus' Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDYVVpbllIREdOczg?resourcekey=0-m3LU1xaC5-PnnA0VLRfK9g>DriveAnon's Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cx7KoDkQa9qmDfJN9_CehZ0fxXEweKOu?usp=sharing>Jumpchain IRC Chathttp://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA>Ruleshttp://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn>How to Jumpchainhttp://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVDFBR2NpdG03S0U/viewComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97286629>I have to go with Centorea.Based
>>97286721IIRC, the Discord for the CoC Xianxia mod had a (link to a?) still-functioning Flash player pinned. Maybe the Fen Forum thread for it too?
>>97284144That's not the same thing
>>97286714Go back to twicechan
>>97287149Why?
A thread for talking about players doing dumb shit and acting like retards.>Be me>Running short campaigns for new groups at the LGS>Players are all tasked with defending some random hamlet in a backwater province from bandits that are planning to sack it and haul everyone off into slavery>First group is (rightly) terrified of a fair fight >Lures the bandits into an ambush by getting help from a neighboring village>raid their camp after they retreat and destroy the group>Second group tries brute force>Roll up on the bandit camp directly and alone>Talk their way into meeting with the leader when they rushed him>Catch him offguard>Are also playing optimized characters >Slaughter him and his guards and convince half of the bandit group to work for them, rest scatter>The third groupComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97284622I'm not shitting on you my guy, I'm explaining why nothing you've tried works and you can't hold your players attention.
>>97284515Do you have any stories about things that did happen then, anon?
>>97284553kill yourself nigger. dmed plenty of game before and after that and didnt have that issue try again
>>97284515>This didn't happen>This isn't entertainingMost things that happen aren't funny, they just happen
>>97285454>dmed plenty of game beforeIt's called being given a fair chance, anon.
Redneck EditionDiscuss and post elves. Elf lore, gameplay, and art are all appreciated.QOTT: Which artists do you think drew the best elves?
>>97285363>blood vendetta against Asur kinoh boy, this pic sure aged a lotit was wild reading that in Malus Darkblade those are the dragon riding Asur, they're now our buddies, let’s pretend we don't hate each other
>>97284916>of all the things he posts the babycarrier ancestorThere's some cool loking Eldar things, but also a lot of dogshit. Quite a hit or miss faction for me.
>>97287130what a goofy lil guy
>>97287130I posted the concept art for the war walker referesh back in the day for a reason. The og ones look like shit but I quite like these ones.
>>97287130Posting old stuff is kinda cheating, oldhammer was a lot more goofy in general.
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>>97286747By now the split has been happening for months, with people losing interest and others fragmenting across Discord/Twitter or whateversex pic
>>97285768The wound on his back ignited a surge of primal, animalistic rage within the Howler, causing him to completely ignore the strange voice in his head. He charged directly at the creature that had injured him, intent on chopping, ripping, and tearing it apart.His underlings, though already weary, maintained their discipline and formed up to engage the approaching force of bizarre, humanoid beasts. These were no mere ragtag highwaymen, united only by common colors and a shared paymaster, like those they might have faced before. Moreover, no one knew how many ranged fighters those dogs of war still had hidden in the surrounding woods.Don't forget that Howler is a werewolf because of his curse, so this might make him resist Skogs' attempts to control him.
Good night.>>97282979More of TT.
>>97286747Sexo.
Should rogue maidens be holy or unholy?
>>97281965Holy fuck this looks like SHIT!
>>97244418>shouldfaggOP, just make your own character. make your own mind the fuck up, your OC Donut Steel could be a demi-gender half-dragon turtle Bear Totem Barbarian that fights for its Carebear totem against the Evil Barneyfag and its legion of Homestuck character dude, its you game, why should we give an ounce of a damn about what you're doing in your game, let alon how you make a character or how you don't make them.Its all engagement bait for YT 4chan AI storytimes and its making me so pessimistic about the death of creativity, imagination and the loss of the sense of wonder humanity once had.We're never getting stuff like LOTRs ever again, we're so devoid of cognitive power, our great ancestors like Aristotle, Galileo, Shakespeare and Washington would condemn us to perdition because we've made ourselves so much lesser than our forebears ever were.George Washington Whooped the ass out of the most powerful army and their hired mercenaries 3 times in the span of a week and turned the dying embers of revolution into a brazen inferno.Shakespeare wrote generational plays that inspired some of the greatest authors known to humanityAristotle inspired multiple generations of philosophers and create an entire subset of soft science through the reverberation of his work through the agesGalileo revolutionized science and payed the ultimate price for his so-called 'insolence', dying at the pyre, speaking a truth so bold and so utterly mind boggling that the Pope himself sent him a letter to shut his mouth about the idea that 'the planet is a sphere'.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I'm seriously considering downloading every puckee image I can find, and spamming the board with them.You fuckers honestly deserve it with how much attention you give him.
>>97286550what the fuck is Puckee?
>>97287081Alright presented with as little bias as possible.Puckee621 is a Redditor (actually unironically not in the memetic sense) who commissions a lot of fantasy art with a peculiar style that tends to be a bit recognizable.He's relevant to /tg/ because he at some point acknowledged on his account that he was regularly sharing his commissions on /tg/. Unfortunately rather than using a character art thread and lurking moar, so to speak, he used a specific pattern of starting threads with a basic tangentially related question with the art, but mostly just abandoned the thread afterwards.This low quality posting style led people to notice that pattern and start to catch on, especially considering he talked about it on reddit iirc.Nowadays he's become the new windmill to tilt at thanks to "Bumpfag"s popularity declined. Whether the guy is still the one spamming or it's imitator trolls trying to stir up resident board police is questionable.That's the gist of it I've gathered from lurking and following the links.
