>>97825632
If you take the Tower Ending of 2077 as canon, Arasaka is internally crippled and being replaced in NC by Militech while the Rogue AIs prepare a full scale invasion of the Net and realspace

>>97825353
The world in The Red and 2077 eras is so fucked, a nuclear apocalypse would arguably be an improvement.

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>>97825672
I'm so tired of genocidal AIs, either nuke crazy bitch Alt and the old net out of existence or give me more benevolent ones

>>97823303
yeah you know I thought it was lame but maybe I should find a way to engage in good faith and say "hey I'd really like to spend my money on these things. I just want you to know where I want to spend my money and what my favourite things have been."

>>97823875
pretty crazy that I know this isn't AI slop but the style is identical to AI slop. it might actually be the open mouth scream - why does AI love doing that?

>>97825722
Go look at 3rd edition and see how much 4th edition pales.

>>97825760
I'm aware the glut of information 3.x provides about various minutia such as this. What I'm asking is how would any of that actually help flesh a 4e game out and help a DM play to its strengths? What is lacking in PHB1, DMG1, the Rules Compendium, or any setting specific other book that would be necessary for a DM to provide for interesting roleplay or exciting encounter building, if not both? Part of what makes 4e so DM friendly is it doesn't concern itself with such things as rote standard, but provides just enough in case the DM wants to make things difficult. What is missing that a DM has to have to make 4e work better for what it does? Not what is missing that makes 4e inferior to your system of choice.

>>97816081
A level 30 Defender will have about 194 hp at 30 while and level 30 Controller will have ~128 hp at that level. At 30 an Ancient Red Dragon is meant to be a standard solo opponent rather than a solo boss fight. Compare it to level 26 characters if you want an Ancient red Dragon to be a boss fight.

>>97778542
If 4e was an automated campaign dungeon crawler type game like gloomhaven, it could have been one of the best board games ever made

>>97825956
There were attempts. Ravenloft, Wrath of Ashardalon and Legend of Dritzz. Dungeon Commander even made an attempt to dust off the old concepts from the Miniature Handbook, create a variety of warbands and go at it with another player using the very same combat mechanics of 4e while collecting treasure and managing army morale. Very fun stuff, but they also were very codified, and didn't scratch the same itch 4e could with how many different characters you could create using just one single class. Marketing outside of the 4e crowd was also slim, so the die hards probably only pulled them out when time for a full night of campaign play was limited.

>>97825299
>Muh mechanic's
Basically every game explains in its rules that the GM should come up with the world. The good ones even give him tools to do it with.

But fine, here's another example:
>What's your character's name
>Idk you tell me
>What's his motivation
>Idk you tell me
Those aren't mechanically defined or even required to play the game. This must be your ideal player since your ideal DM does the same thing with his job.

>>97825458
>"DM, is there a blacksmith in this village?"
>Yea, sure, he moved out of the city to enjoy the quiet life after the accident. What was the accident?
>"What if... he was trying to forge a magic blade, and it blew up, accidentally killing his assistant? And him 'enjoying the quiet life' is actually him hiding from the Guild, who wants to bring him to justice?"
>That's sick, yea when you walk into the smithy you see a grizzled man pounding at an ingot with his left hand; his right hand is missing."

You're really gonna sit here and say "no, the DM should have pre-planned it all, and the player's fun idea for a plot hook is stupid"? Why not just have ChatGPT on text-to-speech and a robot roll your dice while your at it?

>>97825482
It's not that the idea is stupid, it's that it completely derails the rest of the group and puts in meta-game knowledge that the players shouldn't have. So yes, if the DM wanted this blacksmith to have a plot hook asociated with him, he should prep that. If he didn't want that, then why should a player get to add it?

Second, you have no idea if this idea is good or bad. The DM has NOTHING on this blacksmith. He just showed up out of nowhere.

Here's how an actual game would work:
>"Hey DM, is there a blacksmith here"
>"Yes there is, he's a grizzled man missing his right hand. In it's place is a set of prosthetic set of tongs. They are of very high quality and probably weren't forged here."
>"Hmm, interesting. I ask him where he got the tongs."
>"He seems uncomfortable with the question, but responds he got them in the city before hurriedly asking your order."
Now, the players know something is up, but not the specifics and they can decided to follow it up organically instead of feeling forced because clearly Jimmy really wants to track down this new blacksmith quest (that doesn't actually exist yet because the DM didn't make it).

Also if is actually rich hearing you suggest ChatGPT to generate a game when clearly you can't be asked to do it yourself and rely on your players to do your job.

>>97825684
>Here's how an actual game would work
oh shit there I go forgetting that I'm actually a nogames and the fact we're playing like this doesn't count

It's improv; the classic "yes, and..." rule. Why are they asking about a blacksmith? Is it because the party just found a McGuffin in the dungeon and are hoping an NPC could tell them what it is, or give them a lead to investigate it? Maybe the DM expected them to look for someone to cast Identify on it and was planning to introduce the College of Mages this session; and when the players take a more mundane route, they get to introduce a new character and new elements to the story.

Perhaps the blacksmith was forging the exploding-sword on behalf of a mage of the College - was he set up? Does the blacksmith recoil when they present the McGuffin, shouting "Get that Mage-wrought curse out of my shop!" and throw the half-worked molten ingot at them? The point isn't "holy shit this blacksmith is now the #1 most important NPC in the game"; they're just some irrelevant bozo that the DM could have made up on-the-fly, but instead decided to let the player contribute to the world. If the players latch onto this random NPC for whatever reason, the DM can always say "let's come back to this later once I've had a chance to work on him".

I'm not even the DM for the group right now, so attacking me personally isn't super convincing.

>>97791970
Sippy fucking bippy

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>>97823832
Almost a Lasat at one point.

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>>97822499
Idk about lore but design wise I like EC Henrys past using reworked McQuarrie concepts like the original Millenium Falcon/Corellian Corvette, it's very prototypical sci-fi like how Episode I looks more like 1920s Golden Age sci fi and it's Episode II and III that slowly morph the style into classic SW worn down pseudo-realisitc sci-fi

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>>97822393
Escape pods

>>97809718
...and if you're being put under an Inquisitor's yoke, arrange their heroic demise at earliest opportunity.

>>97825875
>i was up first after that an i step between them and buddy’s character and attack closest guard
>followed by wizard and ranger
>we take care of them quickly and get buddy’s character back up
>suddenly leatherfag comes out of the woods and rushes at me and puts a dagger to my throat
>goes into spiel about how humans can’t be trusted and that we are better off dead
>buddy is first to speak up and says that my dude saved his life and while leatherfag just lurked in the forest
>gulps has a brainfart and just has leatherfag mumble some vague mysterious bullshit before throwing down a smoke bomb and disappearing
>we get to the outpost and surprise the guards who are all asleep
>we tie them and begin to see if there are any goodies there
>its mostly just their diaries which all have the most cringeworthy shit about how super evil they are and how much they want to skull fuck non-humans to death
>finally we find some gold and head back to take guards outside and burn down outpost only to find that leatherfag has slit their throats
>we are naturally shocked and pissed asking why he did that
>he is about to go into another speak before my dude who has had enough of his bullshit speaks up
>he basically reads him the riot act and says that if he didn’t like how we handled shit he could have just done it himself instead of stalking us and trying to preen and stroke his own ego like a melodramatic child

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>>97825962
>>97825875
>>97825759
Jesus fuck lol

>>97825962
>however just looked down at him and said matter of factly that my character barely spoke and the only time he did was to chastise the serial killer for implicating the others in a massacre that he could’ve done on his own
>he mumbled some shit and waddled off to his car
>a few hours later buddy calls me and calls me up saying gulps said i threatened him
>i filled him in and he just sighed and apologized
>i said it was cool and asked when the next session was
>he was confused and said why i would want to go back again
>i told him it was funny and he just accepted it and said he would have my back
>after that i spent the seven months effectively trolling this guy and getting the others to join in as they got sick of his shit as well
>campaign ended with my dude rejecting the crown of the kingdom and retiring to buy a farm and marry his peasant gf

>>97825999
>retiring to buy a farm and marry his peasant gf
Based

>>97826012
He was especially mad about that part.

>>97825086
MMA is probably superior one on one but ground game alone is suicide in a real fight

>>97819486
Turned into a futanari woman, addicted to orgasms, and put in a demon milking machine.

>>97825086
>doesn't mean that each and every single chinese martial artist ever is or was an incompetent Bullshido dealer
I didn't say all of them. Just most of them. Not even about promoting MMA or believing that my McDojo style is more powerful than any other style. Chinese martial arts is loaded with horrendous new age scam bullshit, making it no different than crystals or essential oils, or astrology.

>>97825858
>Chinese martial arts is loaded with horrendous new age scam bullshit, making it no different than crystals or essential oils, or astrology
That's sort of a post Mao thing, because the CCP got kind of obsessed with proving their legitimacy by promoting muh 10,000 years of Chinese culture after the Cultural Revolution
But they also didn't want people to study useful forms of resistance so the trad martial arts got watered down to death

>>97825086
>You can't really say that a dude that quelled riots for a living
That never happened, bro.

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>>97804525
Damn it must be very much alive then :) such a good game and all

>>97823672
Sopranos is also a dead show

>>97813806
The actual best 40k game.

>>97825122
that isn't Gladius

>>97815788
So let marines activate twice obviously. That becomes their niche

>>97825766
What about the time they discovered how to travel at infinite speed with the only drawback of turning into a salamander temporarily?

>>97825731
I haven't seen Stargate, though I intend to at some point, but I somewhat disagree with your Farscape assesment.
What makes Crichton special is his knowledge of Wormholes, which he got not because of his humanity but by being decent to those ancient ones in the girl's bathroom episode. There was that one episode where he was less affected by the madness-cockroach alien, but that was treated as a useful side effect of humans being primitive rather than a general advantage.

>>97825784
>Tuned me into a NEWT!
>A newt?
>I got better

>>97821566
>how can we save the genre
Fundamentally impossible. The main consumer type for HFY stories are geeks who exist at the bottom rung of society. They're attracted to stories where humans have an inherent advantage that nets a win because it's the only thing they have IRL. People with any sort of self confidence don't need to read stories that jerk themselves off about how special and cool they are. The best way to avoid making a story like this is just remembering to not get lost in the sauce of spiritual auto-fellatio.

>>97825731
>Does High Crusade count as HFY?
it's basically the textbook definition of HFY

>>97825701
Just copy the changeling one in the nockers kithbook.

So I’m running NY by night as it is in the old sourcebook and I’m wondering what the fuck I’m supposed to do about 9/11, I have no clue if the chronicle will last long enough to reach that point but what would the actual effects of that be, I imagine there were a few ventrue businesses tied up in those towers and not a small number of ghouls. Let alone the media attention and chaos afterwards. Would those hidden sabbat groups take their chance to strike at whoever ends up prince, would they cry like doctor doom lol. Does the chaos wake up the tzimisce antideluvian any

>>97825730
Alright, so what was the book of the weaver 4 dots thing?

While I’m at it, lore questions:
>I know that The technocracy and some of the traditions employ sleepers. I also know that you can have a localized consensus (like your home) where all your magic is either normal or coincidental. Furthermore the cult background goes along with this idea by having the people of your sect believing in the local consensus aligned with your beliefs. So the question is… can you bring sleepers into an horizon realm and have it inhabited? Like a space station? Even more, could you eventually turn it into a permanent home instead of something made of umbra stuff? I was considering that my character was an ace pilot fighting against extraterrestrial threats (like D.Va and the mecha kaijus), but still a teen and quite a hothead. Even if she’s one of the best her temper got her “grounded”. So she’s sent back on Earth with other teen pilots, in a fake foster home with sergeants as “foster parents”.

>>97825843
Yeah that’s the plan. Telling the ST and the spheres to pick. Though I was thinking more of a Simon in Gurran Lagann. My mage wouldn’t have created her mech suit, but she managed to amplify it and unlock its true power through determination. I also heard about periapts that can accumulate and store quintessence, get rid of paradox. That sounds really good.

>>97825895
Might be hard if it uses changeling rules, but I’m interested. Got rules?

>>97825904
>I have no clue if the chronicle will last long enough to reach that point but what would the actual effects of that be, I imagine there were a few ventrue businesses tied up in those towers and not a small number of ghouls.
If I recall correctly, New York was firmly Sabbat territory in the early new millenium. The World Trade Center towers themselves would make a poor haven for Ventrue antitribu, thanks to all the windows, especially due to the mass amount of kine going in and out on a daily basis. All that happened during the day, so licks waking up in the evening would be aghast to find out everything that happened.

The real problem for kindred would probably be the firefighters and police digging around in the ruins and snooping around underground tunnels for survivors long after the attack. Nosferatu in particular would have to bug out in a hurry. The hijackers were identified very quickly, so I have no doubt Sabbat religious figures would start screeching about Assamite plots and Noddist doomsday alarmism while others would be wise enough to see a war was about to start. Keep in mind the War on Terror evolved into the Gehenna War for many reasons and not just the Beckoning.

All in all I'd portray the kindred reacting the same way the kine did: Panic, rage, paranoia, etc. The Lasombra and Ventrue antitribu might even organize reprisal attacks on Assamites in the city thinking it was some kind of orchestrated attack on their business interests.

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>>97825942
>Alright, so what was the book of the weaver 4 dots thing?
nta, but the book of weaver has some mech suits that you can buy with a background called device that every splat and even non splat members can in theory buy. it also has no Gnosis rating meaning that despite it being weaver tech it's technically mundane tech and can be enchanted with any sort of magic system your character knows

the lucemon tamer is a beach boys reference due to the etymology of his last name. due to the etymology of his first name he is likely a charles manson reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u90beUXTKwo

if u think this is schizo posting consider how obscure the reference in heavymetaldramon is. Considering how popular Paradise Lost is its possible that Zephagamon's burst mode having an angelic motiff is a refrence to the angel Zephon who guarded the gates of eden from Satan alongside Ithuriel under the command of Micheal ( who has a badass 2h sword in that poem)

>data squad and glowing dawn in bt25
Why? They are getting their own starters already. I just want to see rebootmon already

>>97825876
It's pretty common for whatever the starters are themed around to get support in the BT pack that follows immediately afterwards.

>>97825893
Should have at least been different digimon. Like the starters having agumon/gaomon/lalamon/falcomon, while bt25 having kudamon/kamemon/pawnchesmon.

>>97825876
making 3 sets of nothing but support for one archetype is good way to get people that skip buying all 3 sets
bad business

>>97825366
That's nice, retard. The subject is D&D being easy for new RPG players, and it's fucking true. Thanks for playing.

>>97825673
>a far great initial investment
basic rules are free, you guys are retards

>>97825764
And which books does the DM need, oh wise one?

>>97825776
>An incredibly truncated version of the rules that you'll maybe be able to use for a few sessions, and is more of a pain in the ass to reference, which is totally the same thing as the entire game, is available for free you fucking idiots!

And by that logic CoC is *still* better, because the free quick start rules come with a good adventure.

>>97825776

You can have a more basic version of any (sau) 30+ pages game. That doens't mean the game isn't simpler than dnd - or even that the quickstart itself isn't simpler than the dnd one.

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>>97777123
>aroused breathing

Gotta make a few of these.

>>97777888
needs more rivets

>>97803652
the design is made by a fan of 40k instead of a fan of sci fi and history

>>97825698
This honestly seems like a problem to me because most of the good 40k stuff was designed by people who were fans of sci-fi and history and wanted to make a 40k equivalent of said things.

>>97820341
>We can do this forever.
I'll grant you this looks more like the fattened greebled M3 up there than say anything else in the ranges but that's just an argument that it /could/ fit in an Elysian force.
genuinely like to see you post more so i can learn how retarded you are

>just admit
What if i hate it because it looks like a taurox, ever think about that?

>what game from your collection would you say are you the best at?
Going by BG Stats, Imperial Struggle. My ADHD-ridden brother gets his ass spanked every single time. But that's more his ADHD than me being good, so Brass and Power Grid are two others where my win rate is 2+ times higher than the expected win rate for the player count.

>dice or fixed values for combat resolution?
Most dice resolution sucks shit through a straw, yes even in otherwise good games, very quickly turning them into snakes and ladders. Dice should either have marginal impact or there should be some serious luck mitigation mechanics. Most times when people cope that these mechanics exist, the mitigation mechanics are the marginal part, not the core dice luck aspect.

On the other hand, fixed value combat is much harder to design, especially in a way that's not boring. I can name the number of good games with such combat on 2 fingers. They are Dune and Kemet.

>>97825407
In our defense, we are slobs.

97820421
the same answer whenever the question is splendor and that's century spice road.

>>97825383
I pretty much never lose Ticket to Ride, even when players actively target me. Although one time I did get a perfect score of 22 in Splendor. (Bought a 5 point card when I had 14 points, and aid card also gave me a 3-point noble tile).
Dice Combat is weird. I love it in Hoplomachus, Summoner Wars, and Eclipse. I hate it in WOTR and War for Arrakis. It's a game by game thing.

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>>97825407
yeah where the hell was the guy who bakes the thread anyway.

>>97825949
I mean you're playing against people who unironically play Ticket to Ride and Splendor, it's like bragging you won Sorry!

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>>97825351
Read the lore newfag.

But to summarize

>Heretic Legions (who are very specifically heretics, and not apostates or anything like that) actually have/had a specific motivation, ie "We demand equality with God".
>This is part of a specific (and heretical, this is what the word means) reinterpretation of religious dogma where God is actually a Tyrant for XYZ reasons, meaning going against the faith's instructions and your god-given intuition on morality is now a good thing.
>Hence, why the Heretics and the Faithful are both stable in logic, but cannot abide the other to exist as they're diametrically opposed to each others' very nature.
>This causes seethe in some people who insist that God=unambiguous good, and Heretics must be an inane, random evil, and not a logical, considered one.

>>97825343
I think the point of the ambiguity is that individual people on both sides are existing in system that makes them do terrible things to survive. It doesn't seem to come up in the discourse but aberhamic monotheism is absolutely not a utilitarian philosophy. the church routinely torture children in order to receive strategic prophecies, that is a sin. the people born into existence within the heretic side are also simply trying to survive.
>tldr: its not that heretics are good, its that the faithfull are also committing evil.

>>97825351
There are retards like the guy who replied to you both here and on Twitter/Reddit who unironically think the Heretics have a logical argument for serving the things that wish to torture all Creation for all eternity until existence itself unravels.

>>97825638
This seems deranged.

>>97825768
I see your point anon

>>97825638
Anon as a Heretic Legions player, you have to be so fucking vile that the literal gates of Hell find no goodness in you. If you're found to be less than a total uncomprimising irredeemable piece of subhuman shit, your soul burns before the hellgate for eternity.
There is no gray with that.
Hell are in fact the bad guys even if they have the barest argument that God's creation being imperfect means that he created suffering explicitly.

>>97825737
I hate how many of these cards have thematic names and the only one that doesn't has phallic art.

>>97825855
How long has Gay Bolas anon infiltrated WotC for that he managed to set this all up?

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This is going to be an MtG video essay about Ugin and Bolas before long.

>>97825133
Based Tog poster.

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When was the last time we just had 'draw four', anyway.