>>97834873
To make it work you should lower the numbers all around, not inflate them. Less damage but less frequent healing

>>97826273
You weren't even calculating the fact you get two weapon masteries and handaxe has vex, leading to overall increased hit and crit rate on yoir nick and bonus action unarmed strike. I still would prefer battle master tbdesu

Are there any weapon types you would have in your games that aren't represented in the DMG or PHB?

>Caestus/Brass Knuckles - 1d8 Bludgeoning, benefits from any features that affect Unarmed Strikes
>Atlatl - uses Javelins or Spears as Ammunition, has Loading, does 1d10 Piercing at 60/180 range

I was going to suggest Tonfas as well but I feel like that's just a reflavored Club.

>>97833019
>>97833073
>>97834268
And on a similar note:

No matter what kind of dragon it is, you never ever, ever, ever, EVER refer to a dragon’s hoard as “junk”, especially while they’re in earshot.

Dragons are very proud of their hoards and are very sensitive about it.

>>97835179
some of the things im considering

>buff heal to 24 values (playing 14)
>death saves are con saves
>exhaustion lvl each time go to 0 hp
>getting damaged while unconscious isnt auto death save fail, but allows con save like for concentration (10 or half damage whichever is higher), however it's a auto hit in melee (but not auto crit)

basically im trying to make hitting downed players a more natural thing for mobs to do while being less overwhelmingly punishing, and giving player's some counterplay, and also get rid of the stupidity of healing a player at 0 being more efficient than healing them before they go to 0

>>97835338
He's just the manifestation of Rousseau's ideas going cancerous.

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>>97834167
The problem is you took the bait, retard.

>>97833928
No, his character isn't too important to the story to kick him.

>>97834014
>Stop making characters "important to the story" as if you're writing a fucking novel instead of playing a game.
We didn't make it that way it's just how it evolved.
And I'm asking for an in-game way to humble him or resolve this so he stops thrust for virgin peasant girl pussy because he can't get any irl.

>>97834119
>showing that it's a two-way problem for sure
How is it my problem?

>>97834137
>Ok, he was in the right then, you are a theater faggot.
He's gotten himself involved in too much to kick him. We're not storyshittiers, the story evolved naturally.
.>>97834174
>Tell him to masturbate before coming to games nights then
We sort of did and then he called us gay for trying to remove women from the game and force his character to be asexual.

>>97835471
>fat black April and the ugliest art of all time
Agreed, some things will still pass through the cracks if the holder is not vigilant enough, however as ugly as TMNT is, mechanically it's still one of the best sets recently, so they may allow one or two "wotc retouches"
>>97835485
Well you are right that wotc failed to deliver and UW sucks currently, I think it's a chicken or egg question, is UW being sacrificed because it failed, or did they have it fail so it could be sacrificed? I have to think about that, because it should cement how we look at UB. Cuz I liked most of it until around Amonketh, but it's true it never had any cultural impact
You might be onto something with your other theory, I too think they'd do it 100% but are afraid (undeserving imo) of the tranny crashout

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>>97834191
my beloved. Still standing after all these years and gets more and more fun each set

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What's your opinion on the commander decks? Great reprint value but I think they're quite unfocused gameplay wise

>>97835581
Not buying commander decks without collectors sample packs, greedy kikes.

>>97835581
Good question, are dina and zimone strong enough to join the illustrious gang of busted precons?
>counter blitz
>world shaper
>blight curse
>sultai arisen
>animated army
>velociramptor
>explorers of the deep
Note how all of them are green kekw wotc this is what you get when you treat edh as just a board game

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>>97835427

According to Keith in 5e Chronicles of Eberron, p. 141:
>One of the core themes of Eberron is that player characters are remarkable, and that they can achieve things normal people can’t. For the sake of argument, imagine that you discover the dragons of Argonnessen are going to destroy Khorvaire in a week. Rallying the nations won’t be too much help, because this isn’t a problem that can be solved by a humanoid army—all the armies of the Five Nations combined would be slaughtered within minutes if they faced the full force of Argonnessen. King Boranel has no particular influence when negotiating with the dragons; they don’t care about his crown or his nation. This doesn’t mean that humanity is doomed; it means that the adventurers will have to do something seemingly impossible—perhaps sneak into Argonnessen and find a way to make the Conclave listen to them. How? Maybe they can somehow channel the spirit of Ourelonastrix. Maybe they can threaten to release the Daughter of Khyber if the dragons don’t back down. Maybe they can find proof the Conclave has misinterpreted the Draconic Prophecy. So while all the horses and all the king’s men may be useless in this struggle, a few bold adventurers may be able to do the impossible.

This section is particularly janky and unappealing to me. Keith starts it off by saying, "PCs are special and can achieve things normal people cannot!" and then goes on to clarify "Well, if the PCs want to save Khorvaire from dragons, then they will have to resort to an even more powerful cosmic entity, or convince the dragons to back down (pretty please)."

The way Keith Baker has written Eberron's dragons is such that there is, flatly, no way whatsoever for a single decisive battle against a big draconic villain to save the world.

>>97835522
There is, if you want to do that. Dragons are pretty individualistic, and tend to fuck off and do their own thing. You could even make one of those doomsday cults be headed by a heretic dragon. They'd be hard pressed if you wanted to make a 3000 year old great wyrm with epic magic be the villain, or especially if you think that destroying Argonnessen will somehow improve things instead of making them worse, but it's not impossible to have a dragon villain.

>>97835549
>Dragons are pretty individualistic
Not the eberron dragons. They're all working for a single group, and any that don't play ball gets taken out by the other dragons. And either way, even you yourself admit they're so uber powerful you'd have to invent some deus ex machina to make them beatable by PCs... Which is entirely against the way the setting was written originally, which was that the PCs were meant to be able to enact actual, significant change.
Except that significant change apparently isn't allowed to include anything involving argonessen

Like, one of the talking points was how there were no uber-powerful NPCs running around but somehow Keith doesn't think his uber dragons count as NPCs?

>>97835589
No, Eberron dragons are very individualistic. They actually consider it expected for younger dragons to go fuck around, build cults, break the rules, fuck with humans, et cetera. LARP in the wilderness and fuck kobolds or something. And my example was that you needed to consider things carefully, whether by placing obstacles the players can actually overcome or by providing opportunities for them to leverage, and not just throw the strongest thing around at the players and expect them to win, because that's really fucking lame.

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>>97835549
>>97835589

While the Light of Siberys (the draconic military) has a centralized hierarchy led by a single dragon holding the rank of Eternal Flame, we already know the Conclave, the Eyes of Chronepsis, and the Chamber to all be decentralized and without any one true leader.

This goes all the way back to the original 3.5 Eberron Campaign Setting, p. 229:
>The Chamber has little structure or organization. Members share knowledge as warranted, even keeping dragons that aren’t part of the group informed about their findings and observations. Some dragons of the Chamber spend decades disguised as members of the lesser races, serving as advisors to kings or silent observers.

This decentralized structure has been repeated in later lore sources covering dragons.

It is something I dislike about the way Eberron is written. PCs are supposed to be super-special heroes who can beat up bad guys and save the world, but Keith frequently writes up antagonist organizations as decentralized in structure.

>Like, one of the talking points was how there were no uber-powerful NPCs running around but somehow Keith doesn't think his uber dragons count as NPCs?
I think that the issue is not just in how Keith likes to emphasize just how super-duper-strong dragons (and everyone else, really) are, but also in how Keith likes to conveniently mention that these antagonist organizations are decentralized in structure.

>>97834318
No, not really. In the same location, within distant range. In the same section, within close range. Being behind someone doesn't matter, heroes don't provide cover. You can take the Defending Others action if you want to protect an ally or civilian.

>>97833847
Getting back to normal sleep cycles is important, but so is having a life outside of your home. Take a walk, meet people, read books. It will come back. It takes time.

>>97831518
I've played with minis, without aids of any kind, digital, drawings on a chalkboard, drawings in the sand with rocks.
Having a visual aid so you spend less time explaining to players how the fight is arrayed goes a long way.

>>97831630
>Why would you use any art you can just imagine it?
>Why would you want a game with graphics, just imagine the game outside of the data
>Why would you ever read a manga or watch a show or movie when you can just read or listen to books and audio files?
Maybe just maybe fun things are fun. Yes I could just use coloured blocks on a grid but that makes immediate identification of characters/units harder and is sligjtly less enjoyable.

>>97834870
>Aphantasia is not being able to form pictures in your mind
Yes that's what I mean I have trouble visualizing things like I used to.
And yeah I'm a dumb faggot for ruining my brain with unhealthy choices. I regret it all but now I need to just see what I can do to make it better, if at all possible.

>>97835335
If it's not accompanied by a significant improvement in the game play/list building experience it won't matter. The lore shit only matters to a group of people who don't play and don't pay product, it's completely irrelevant (and the current stuff is fine anyway, anyone who has a hard time conceptualizing 'not!the Nine Realms of Norse myth/ like the game God of War' is a fucking retard)

>>97835525
If you mean the second edition release, these models felt "warcrafty" to me
the third edition warriors were actually a little more realistic

>>97835550
Yes, but the thing is that they still stuck close to a classic chaos warrior look. I think that box sold so well that they decided to try out some more things directly inspired by whfb. Lo and behold, those armies are some of the bestsellers

>>97835563
remind me, when did the remade soulblight with a strongly whfb look were released ? second or third ?

>>97835576
Half of them in 2e(blood knights and basic skeletons) but the other half were weird. They got barrow guard etc and vhordrai this edition

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>>97764591
Depends on the situation.

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>>97764591
>fucking Reformists are at it again
It's about how much mana the wizard can control.

Anyone can be taught how to cast a specific spell (given enough time), but the amount of energy you can manipulate as a conduit without exploding is set in stone (without the use of external factors such as artifacts or self-adjusting rituals).

Yes, your mind wizard can just take control of the planet explosion wizard, but if the later has a higher mana capacity, then eventually he could be taught how to control the minds of a thousand wizards.

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>>97764591
Unless that one mind you control has absolute control of planets and their people, I'd go with planet destroying power. You can at least threaten people into submission. Imagine trying to defeat an army by just controlling a single mind. Unless we get to some bullshit anime strategy of controlling billions of minds, one after another for a fraction of a second at a time to at least hinder their ability to stand against you.
>>97767073
What if his buddy shows up?

>>97764591
Oh shit it’s fat Kevin

>>97833195
I can’t find that comic anymore.

>>97834183
The fact this happened even once is already enough to complain forever, or at least until a scapegoat suffers to appease the mad god.

>>97834188
but you do realize that spamming the same ragebait even 2+ years later will make people see you as annoying spergs, yes? By repeating the same shit over and over and over again, you are alienating people to your cause by pissing them off

>>97833750
They have tattoos of eachothers beards

>>97834029
>What else were we supposed to do?
Attack the community by any means necessary while remaining within the bounds of legality. How do you think the civil rights movement accomplished things?

>>97833886
Yes, even back in 2014 you were a retarded nogames faggot.

>>97835513
No one can comprehend the mind of the noldorfag. Not even the noldorfag.

>>97835524
I mean considering that is what he seethes about the most, makes no sense that he spammed a normal general elf thread over one that was actually about human/elf mixing.

>>97835533
There was at least one person sperging in that thread. Him or the 2.0 version, it's hard to tell. Either way, don't try to reason with that level of autism. That way lies only madness.

>>97835559
That guy to be fair was the 40K Eldar lorefag, not the Noldorfag. He stopped after an anon talked him down nicely.
Noldorfag on the other hand can't be stopped.

>>97835569
He admitted he was only there to troll. >>97784057
I do what I can to report both of them, but the jannies are largely useless around here.

>>97835434
Only thing I like on the new models is the slimmer sentinel blades, but even they're a little fucked because there sword blade is partially blocking the gun muzzles.

>>97835501
Thank you!

>>97835483
needs a little more love on all fronts mang
namely being really meticulous about cleaning up every last mold line possible and actually attending to all detail like soft black undersuit joints and brassy casings in the magazines and maybe some color on the bolter scope lenses and such
needs moar dark wash all over too to pick out all the recesses nicely

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Hmm, my word bearers 3k list is almost done, just 480 points to go...I could fill it easily with 2 plasma tactical support squads in rhinos...or I could paint 6 of my plasma Bombard saturnine and 1 rhino, which would be more fun but probably less useful

>>97835531
>namely being really meticulous about cleaning up every last mold line possible
I did, those are knife marks you can't see in person.
>detail like soft black undersuit joints
I did, its covered in pigment powder.

>>97833226
>>97832636
>>97832536
Foidwhipped retards.

>>97813785
>>97832536
>>97832636
>>97833226
Children are nothing but a scam created by women to trap, exploit and abuse men.

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>>97821407
Bro...

Been gone for a week any news from adepticon?
anything happen in the thread aside from the usual spergs

>>97831402
As one of those players and probably the only tourneyfag here this general is more poisoned than even AoS right now it's hard to have a conversation about your doods when three quarters of the thread are spergs.
Speaking of stories
>Playing HL
>GL trooper promotes
>war stories on my protest so 2xp per game
>gets ranged proficiency
>make him legionnaire so now he's +2 ranged
>have him rolling ranged and melee so that he can get strength of Samson
>next promo pistol skills or patron guess I'll give him sadistic that's a great pick up
>next promotion ranged prof or melee prof, well I guess that's just how the dice roll some days so melee it is
>next promotion before the last game of the event ranged prof or close quarters combat
>fuck it, buy him a hellblade and an automatic rifle
>proceeds to kill 3 guys before going out of action because no armor turn 2
He was a good man and truly wanted to be in the thick of it. Leftenant Samiel did good work for the lords of hell he'll be rewarded upon passing onto them

>>97835188
>not really liking Liberator
Wild take for a guy who plays Card Games.

>>97835399
shoto/ptero makes it really boring imo, all other characters are better

>>97835409
Winr exists so your statement is incorrect but I don't really see the issue with Shoto. His character arc from shitter to world champion was absolutely earned.
Though I will agree that Liberator has cooler side characters.

>>97835399
I hate Liberator because longstrip/webcomic is a shit format.

>>97835451
This. Put me off immediately.

>>97834934
The Basic Rules 5e PDF is superior to the full books and rules for that edition of the game. It's a fully playable game. It's easy to learn. The only thing in the PHB is a bunch of retarded character options when you level up. Shit that shouldn't be in the game in the first place. The DM can make up, steal, or download infinite magic items, monsters, or anything else. Holy shit I feel like half you guys are retards without a creative bone in your body. Or illiterate.

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>>97835369
... this is the best you can pull? Seriously?

>>97835312
I feel like you learned one rhetorical device and decided that was all you need.

This isn't just about what's a mechanically good game. Yes if it was all about that people would just play a limited number of centuries to millenia old games. But that's a narrow idea of what a game is and what can make it good. People didn't start doing all this shit for no reason. They did it because every genre of more modern board game, card game, miniature game etc. has particular qualities that make it unlike other games in positive ways rather than just negative ones. This doubly so goes for games with a huge hobby aspect-its not a disadvantage that you have to build and paint your game pieces. That's part of the draw for most people.

The Dnd point is extra tenuous because any experience playing as a kid underlines why an rpg framework is important to that experience. Because everybody remembers getting in a loop of "well I have a faster gun so you die". "Well I have a gun that shoots bullets back in time so you die". "Well I'm wearing armour that makes me immune to bullets".

People who say they're exclusively interested in the quality of gameplay are baffling at this stage in /tg/ spheres. On the one hand they could just stick with highly abstract classic games, on the other hand they could get into competitive video games. Instead they hang around an orbit of hobbies where clearly gameplay is just one part of it and where their gameplay will be, obviously, much less refined and elegant than other easily available games, and in which that gameplay is watered down by hobby, creative, imaginative and aesthetic dimensions that are an integral part of their appeal to most people who engage in them.

>>97833562
>>97829324
The trolls are starving. (If you want me to feed you, define "roleplaying")

>>97833672
The decision to include that bit was to add even more "mechanics speak" at the table. It's not an endorsement of the mechanic.

>>97833615
I think you have to prepare some things. Folks like discovery and learning about the world they are imagining. If you are improvising every detail it can become a little unsatisfying. I do absolutely agree with you that prepping "situations" rather than "plots" is meaningful. That, and letting whatever story is being told change based on the actions of the characters. Like many things in life, it ends up being a moderation of improv and planning.

>>97835150
>>97835186
NTA. I think there's merit to preparing some things that players can choose to interact with or not. Secrets about the world for players to discover (or not). As well as preparing - in advance- for what characters encounter based on their prior actions. I agree that preparing an expected outcome or limiting the player choice to solving any given problem is bad GMing.

>>97830779
Demon Lord (essential 1e) is unapologetic in how it wants to make the world an irredeemable hellscape, and there is some scat related stuff in it to push this concept.

Weird Wizard (essentially 2nd Edition to Demon Lord) files alot of the overtly over the top stuff and keeps it grounded to a more neutral fantasy that can be shifted darker or lighter as you see fit. The core rules are also largely better than Demon Lord as well, just not as much content simply due to being the newer game.

>>97828410
What actually makes it different from typical D&D fare? I've heard a lot of good things, but seeing yet another d20 fantasy game made my eyes glaze over.

>>97832339
I don't know about Weird Wizard but do know Demon Lord. Here's some of the differences that improve the game
>You gain a level after each adventure.
>Max level is 10
>Previous two points make for short campaigns so it piss easy to actually finish a complete campaign
>Your stat modifier is your ability score minus 10, so a 12 in strength would be a +2 and an 8 would be -2
>All trait checks are a flat 10 to pass
>Game uses boons and banes mechanic which are situational modifiers. Each boon/bane adds a d6 to your trait check. Boons and banes cancel each other out.
>If you roll multiple boons, you take the highest value and add it to your d20 plus trait modifier to beat the TN of 10. Same with banes but you subtract the highest d6 from your roll.
>There is no initiative roll. Players act in whatever order they want then enemies unless surprised.
>Rounds of combat are broken down in Fast and Slow round. Fast goes first you can move OR take an action, then enemies have their fast round. Then Slow rounds happen where you can move AND take an action. Then enemies get their slow round. You cannot take a Fast and Slow turn in a round, it's one or the other.
>All damage is d6 based.
>Character builds determine damage not equipment.
>Game starts lethal and stays lethal

>>97820448
Not really.

In a way I think D&D is the best TTRPG for being a filter of the trend chasers and who actually are genuinely in the hobby.
Same with Warhammer for wargaming.

>>97820448
Nope. Where it does things differently, it's underbaked. Where it mirrors 5e, it's shallow. It feels built by committee from a group of people who liked some ideas but, somehow wanted to make them worse.

For example:
>I like the idea of a success/fail mechanic that includes a different axis such as advantage/disadvantage.
>But rather than make it follow rationally from difficulty and character skill (such as Genesys) let's make the likelihood of good/bad complication be entirely 50/50 and create a needless metacurrency
>We like PbtA moves and GM turns
>Let's tie GM actions to a random metacurrency
>Accessories like reference cards are super popular among hobbyists
>Let's design our game so that it's near mandatory to include tokens and cards

It's also incredibly shallow. Power levels scale wildly and challenges are fairly trivial. If 5e is "high" fantasy, DH is "coked out"

>>97835495
Flesh.

>>97835505
Is weak.

>>97835402
The card option say 500 USD per month, not 5%.

This thread stinks
Make a new one early

I love the taste of iron!