Why is it that so many fantasy writers make their evil cults unjoinable by anyone with a functioning brain cell? Like why would you worship Orcus, whose goal is omnicide? Why would you worship Tzeentch if he’s probably gonna screw YOU over as part of his grand plan?What makes it so bizarre to me is that, firstly, it’s not like they need to be so off-putting to be evil. Orcus is a demon of undeath, his followers want to turn their enemies into the undead. Tzeentch wants the world to be in a constant cycle of chaos, his followers are gonna be masterminding world wars.Secondly, it’s not like we don’t have plenty of examples of real-world evil cults. A lot of cults in the West don’t follow Super-Duper-Mega-Murder Satan, but are fucked-up offshoots of Christianity. Historically, goetia was practiced by people who would’ve still called themselves Christians, while committing rituals to summon and get boons from demons. Plenty of human cultures used to sacrifice humans to their gods, not to summon them to kill everyone or some shit, but to honor and/or appease them.Like to use another example from Warhammer, I think Nurgle and Khorne present more “approachable” evil cults. Nurgle is toxic positivity, and his love will take all the pain away. Khorne is wrapped up in enough language about honor to lure people in.Like to rework an evil deity, let’s pick Lamashtu. Instead of “We love ugliness and miscarriages and also you get to die in childbirth”, the cult targets vulnerable young women and lures them in with divine feminine language (“You have the power to bear and raise great beasts”), while promising the young men of monstrous races frustrated living among humans that what they’re scorned for is what makes them powerful (and also they get to have sex with pretty girls).
>>97160877As someone from a third world shithole I would unironically appeal to Tzeentch if that meant a plausible way to tear down the people in power here and change the general culture of the people around here
>>97206207Yeah, makes the whole chaos cult thing seem reasonable. A prospective cultist suffering from insecurities to delusions wold easily fall for the whole "There's nothing wrong with you, it's the world that has to change!" drivel that these types cling on to for dear life.
>>97207451The Chaos Gods draw power from pretty much any emotion, good or evil, but in its concentrated form, the Warp always takes things to extremes, so pretty much the only time you get "good" aspects of Chaos is in cultures that have minimal exposure to the Warp
>>97160877>life is hard, painful, joyless, and I have no future beyond being maimed in a workplace accident and begging for scraps until I die of malnutrition>but John knows these parties where they have good food, beautiful women, and they don’t even check how many teeth you have at the door!Slaanesh.>My entire block was hit with some horrible disease, but Bill knows these people who can help with an illnessNurgle.>I’ve never felt more alive than when I busted that narcotics ring, the whizz of bullets, the way that scumbag’s nose crunched under my boot.>Toms part of this cool fraternity where they practice combat.Khorne>Im tired of working this dead end job, my boss is an absolute moron, I could do so much better than him. Just need the proper leverage to move up.>Sam has some strangely powerful connections, I’ll talk to him about it.Tzeentch
>>97219896>why dey fight bak? notmyfawt. dindunuffin!Dindu the Irresponsible, god of the [redacted].
"Tools of the Trade" EditionArchives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>97210766>Thread Question: Do you prefer inherent magic or something more ritualistic, requiring equipment, words, or similar?
>>97221637>It's the duty of women to tame the evil inside the hearts of men.>he needs a woman to be his moral center
>>97222498>woman as his moral centerthis is not going to end well
>>97222498>he needs a woman to be his moral centerno pussy = young men are prone to thoughts of violence and rebellionit's a just a fact of nature
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Stories, art, don’t care. Post it or don’tWhite human male and orc female pairings are the key to fixing the realm
Post more green bitches
Post-Apocalyptic Fantasy? >A world rocked by cataclysm>landscapes filled with chaos and wonder>mage storms>An enduring mystery; what happened, and what happened in the intervening centuries?>An atmosphere of hope and renewal, as heroes rise, and mysteries are investigated.>Darkness and evil await in corners and ruins, like pools of dank water waiting for the sun>the brink of a New Age Interesting setting? What elements would you include? I'm just gonna throw zombies at them.
>>97222409>you won't be prepared for when players do the unexpectedWhat players can do will ideally be covered by the rules of the game (see: "the character creation and progression options, the challenges they face, and the mechanics associated with the game structure" that you ignored).If not, that's on you for choosing (or making) a poorly designed game; it does not suddenly make worldbuilding more important to a game than it actually is.>making contradictory and disjointed decisions that don't fit what's already been offeredA well-designed game won't contradict itself in how it runs. When choosing or making a game, make sure it is clear about what can be done with it. "Games" that don't have mechanics beyond "ask your storyteller" are more likely to be disjointed than something with airtight rules.>when we're flying by the seat of our pants due to lack of appropriate forethought into the world"Flying by the seat of your pants" is the consequence of a poorly designed game, or a system that isn't even a game at all.When there's proper forethought in the mechanics, everything else falls into place.Perhaps try designing a game to run, instead of trying to write novels or performing improv theater. You'll realize that games don't need as much masturbatory worldbuilding when you do.But once again, you just want to have your off-topic collaborative writing with impunity, despite there being multiple other places for you to plop out your shit.
>>97221701>p-pwease read my redditslop about some random disposable world you have no reason to care about, with generic allusions to precursors and ruins and shit, where the downfall was caused by a corny allegory for politics I dislike!!No ;) dilate
>>97220563>I always like having the moon be damaged and falling apart.I like it having it show signs of former inhabitation, maybe ruined cities or even abandoned terraforming projects.
>>97221457Even if that was true there's no reason that the setting you create yourself needs to follow corporate mandates, so what's your point?
>>97219278>Post-Apocalyptic Fantasy? Points of Light, my beloved.
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Anyone know where to get Egyptian themed tomb king terrain??
>>97222478Nigga. Make it yourself or look for Egyptian toys.
Good loadout for a Warboss on Chariot? I've got the commander kit, and only have the AHW options left, so I'm hoping that suits it well...
>>97222478You asking in the wrong general. No one in this thread makes, buys, or uses terrain for their games.
>>97222478Your best resources are cheap souvenirs and aquarium/terrarium decors, modellers palm trees, and scratchbuilt sand dunes.No need to overspend on tomb kings scenery.
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>>97222164They feel like busywork to me. Not really discussion.
>>97222173Fascinating. Thread prompts are one of the only ways I get insights into others characters. So without that most of them are extremely forgettable
>>97222187The insights are usually superficial or things I could have guessed.
>>97222191Nta, that feels more like a problem of using the wrong prompts rather than prompts as a concept.
>>97222412Anons who make prompts suck I guess
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>>97221516You forgot to post the character sheet
>>97222442>Cheliax is geographically equivalent to IberiaI’ve been playing them as German/Prussian because of the whole Nazi schtick and love of Gothic Architecture. Everything I know is wrong…
>>97222477They even have the Pillars of Hercules, man. They control Gibraltar.
>>97222484It’s weird that that’s been such a gap for me, but I could tell you all about Ustalav, Taldor, and niche Andoran facts. (A city in it is a weird reference to the 2005 music charts) I guess I’ll have some re-accenting and Renaming to do next time I play lol.
>>97222491>That paranthesesDare I ask?
How do you justify a "pest race" like goblins or rat people in your setting? Why wouldn't the dominant species make a concentrated effort to eradicate them if they were a problem?
>>97221912I dunno, ask /40kg/
>>97217366Having brain damage and being poisoned by a combination of social media brainrot and porn addictions lowers one's ability to comprehend long sentences.
>>97217366The more simple and succinct the message the further down it reaches in terms of both social class and IQ levels, it's also common on brand taglines and election slogans.
>>97217789>The idea of a gnoll working in forge with that fur next to burning fires, sounds like a safety hazard about to happenTrue, but at that point you'd need to question how safe it is for Dwarves too, considering they're generally depicted as both master smiths and having huge beards. Having metal rings and beads braided in those big beards probably wouldn't help either.
>>97217789>>97222374Shrimple. Dwarves and most furred races capable of metalsmithing will put fire-retardant conditioning in their hair/fur.The gnoll working alongside a dwarf would likely adopt this from his dwarven friend because gnolls probably don't have a sophisticated metalworking culture (though they might, in this particular setting..). Most other Gnolls would note that he smells faintly of dwarf in a more complete manner than the "hung out with dwarves" way.
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Is OSE easier to DM/play as a newbie? I tried 5E and it seemed kinda autistic for my non-dork buddies.
>>97222378We have n00b guides to help you get started, links in the OP. B/X is very procedural at its core, and much simpler than 5e from practically all points of view. It takes 5 minutes to create a character and, generally speaking, players don't even need to know the rules to play, unlike 5e that is all about character optimisation, character builds, and knowing which class or race power to use when or what feats to take. There's a learning curve to it as a DM, but it's very resilient if you fuck up some rules or make shit up for the first few sessions.5e DMs complain about burnout all the time, but that's unheard of in Gygaxian D&D, in which DM'ing is loads of fun.5e is mostly written to titillate the players' power fantasies and for DMs who have always wanted to write novels but were unable to, we despise both here. Gygaxian D&D, on the other hand, was written for DMs to have fun with. There was literally a shift in the target demographics of games and the whole game's philosophy after Gygax left TSR in this regard.
Do you think there's a point in picking it up in some digital table-top setting to run through something, or is it as simple enough as you & the noob guide make it seem?
>>97222492It was for literal children to learn to play before computers and the Internet were a thing. Granted, there's been some quite substantial neurological decline in the younger generations since 1981, so it might be a bit more challenging for you than it was for gen X kids back then, but I'm sure you can manage.
>>97222502Then I shall wing it Anyone have any experience with Dolmenwood? I think it was made for OSE, but they turned it into its own thing.
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>>97220965Because the Mk.1 looked like this https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Torpedo_Sphere/Legends
>>97218669double revenge triggers suck, but Dooku would at least give you a revenge trigger of your own. The best list atm seems to be Riff/Grevious but I don't know how well it performs into double revenge as it is so killy. Ventress has god tier activations but doesnt really do anything outside of them unfortunately.
Finally saw this, it was basically the prequels if they were actually good
>>97220915Maybe you should stop installing mods without knowing what they do, Visas' class is jedi sentinel and will stay that way. Sith assassin is one of the player only prestige classes.
I want to be owned and bullied by a pureblood sith woman.
Who was in the right?
>>97222437Not proving me wrong.
>>97222458>no you HAVE to engage with my retarded strawman! Retard moment
>>97221448The Jesus freak. The rest are evil, schizo, or gutless.
>>97222211It's much harder for your whiny ass to stop asking when no one cares. But that you constantly inquire and can't recognize yourself, ironically makes you the real no-games.
>>97222398Femboy is also being taken over by the trannies. They don't seem to realize there's a market for guys that DON'T want to be women.
>DM does the tired old Yin-Yang as mutually exclusive gended-coded principles of magic>acts all uppity when we figure obvious loophole to master both
>>97222366Go on, I'll bite. What's this supposed loophole you think you've invented for a scenario only in your head?
>>97222366uh oh, trying to contain all that magic in one body made you explode, sorry fag
>>97222366Those puzzle pieces are completely backwards. They imply the female has a cock and the guy is on the front end of a fuck train.In reality, the male should be fucking the hermaphrodite to extract her yan while also supplying her with his own sperm to rebalance the yang she's expending dumping cum into the female. Only then will true balance be achieved
>>97222366I would just say you get neither because when confined to the same vessel the powers negate each other.
>>97222366Traditional games?
Why is it so common for fantasy rpgs that try to do the "Deep Lore" stuff to always default to Gnosticism or H.P. Lovecraft in a trench coat?
>>97216420Simulation theory was implied in both Star Ocean 1 and 2. The problem with 3 was that they tried to turn it into a mid-game twist and that made a mess of the game's story.
>>97214013>Plants are what is wrong with everything in the world. We must return to Photosynthesis.
Familiarity is important.
Gnosticism is just true!IAM!
>>97209182White Wolf's games are heavily rooted in Christian mythology and Gnosticism is basically Christianity/Judaism deep lore, so it really should come as no surprise here. But yeah, sure, I get what you're saying, seen plenty of it as well. I think it's largely because the core themes of Gnosticism are>reality isn't exactly what it appears to be >god(s) are lying to youWhile the core them of HPL is >there are forces/entities/civilisations out there that operate on an entirely different level we can barely comprehendAnd those really are kind of the most obvious angles if you're trying to write some major, plot-twist "deep lore" for your setting Another reason I see is there's probably a pretty big correlation between people who are into the concept of deep lore (and thus want to include it in their setting) and people who are into /x/ stuff (and thus are probably aware of Gnostic stuff and think it's some extra cool secret knowledge they'll be extremely original for ripping off)
Previous thread: >>97111514GURPS is a modular, adaptable system, capable of running a wide range of characters, settings, and play styles, with a level of detail varying from lightweight to completely autistic.Optional rules allow you to emulate different genres with a single system, or even switch genres within a single game.A nearly complete archive of GURPS books can be found by using the image. Never post direct links to the archive anywhere in plain text.If you're wondering where to start:- The Basic Set covers everything, including a lot of optional rules you probably won't use.- A genre guide can be found in the archive, under Unofficial/GURPSgen. It tells you what extra books and articles you may find useful for many common genres.- How To Be a GURPS GM is a good read even for players.- GCS (gurpscharactersheet.com) is an excellent character-builder software, with page references to all the books and the option to export to both Foundry and Fantasy Grounds.Thread question: How often do you use an official GURPS setting? Which are your favorites?
>>97222128Isn't rpm kinda slow for how hp uses magic?
>>97222128Harry Potter is just standard Magic where magery has a gadget limitation for wands.
>>97222145True. I mentioned it because it was the first 'manaless' system that came to mind.>>97222175The spellcasting speed is about right, as well as the piecemeal nature of spells, but wizards doesn't seem limited by FP/EP and learning individual spells seems very easy, children learned Wingardium Leviosa in a single class.
>>97222175>>97222185Also Wizards can cast spells without wand, it's just easier to do so.Under standard magic system, I guess wands could be several levels of gadget Magery. Having it increases skill levels with all spells by a large margin, so even dabblers can cast spells but to do so without it a wizard needs to study the spell a lot.I guess it could explain why not even very talented mages like Dumbledore and Voldemort bothers with wandless magic.
>>97222185>>97222192Frankly, your biggest problem is that Harry Potter is absolute garbage.
How do we fix Steampunk?
>>97221835Tradition is by definition a living thing. It is cultural continuation, the passing down of cultural elements from one generation to the next. If such continuation doesn't exists anymore then we are not talking about tradition. We are talking about history.
>>97217321>go pray to Harry Potter, plebbitI pray to Odin. The true god-wizard.
>>97196423>>97196434Whereas cyberpunk was an aesthetic but also a social commentary on unrestrained hedonism/corporate greed and the consequences thereof, steampunk is just an aesthetic, which is why it's so hollow and why it mostly appeals to cosplayers. There's no substance so it's nebulous and vague, which makes it easier to get into but less poignant.>tl;dr it's shallow
>>97221874>steampunk is just an aestheticSteam punk deals with themes of rapid industrialization, colonialism, Victorian class structures, the impact of anachronistic advanced technologies, such as the "difference engine" would have on the world at large. Steam punk isn't just cyberpunk with brass googles it's a genre of alternative history, a fact people sadly forget.
>>97221866lol. lmao, even>saar im from pure Aryan stock, saar, I worship the white gods of the north saaar>>97221835>What are you on about? Do you also believe that if culture is forgotten then it isn't a culture? What about language, or art?mtf how can we know something, and clasify it as culture, it we have forgotten it?>>97221874This is the precise point; steampunk is mostly an aesthetic without any commentary on the social and political environment that should go along with itthat's what the OP was looking for, I think>>97222026>themes of rapid industrialization, colonialism, Victorian class structures, the impact of anachronistic advanced technologies> a fact people sadly forgetthis anon gets it
