>>97397636
>there are probably ten long time players quietly deciding to pack it in
Cope so sweet they could bottle and sell it

>>97397747
You mean action figures?

btfo'd urself like fag

>>97397240
No matter how hard you simp for feminist you'll never get a whiff of pussy.

>>97397418
Appealing to nulore isn't helping your argument.

>>97397573
Still gaslighting.

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Urban fantasy or modern fantasy as some might put it

Is it more interesting to have magic, magical races and creatures be hidden from common knowledge or out in the open that to the point seeing a dragon flying over the city is just a another common occurrence?

>>97392594
>In battles between summoners, wouldn't the optimal strategy be to remain as far from the field of battle as possible while trying to sneak up on the opponent?
Depends on a ton factors.
>Do the summoners need line of sight to summon
>Can the summoners summon through defenses
>Are the summoners creating summons, teleporting in functionally immortal creatures, or teleporting them in from a finite pool of mortal allies
>Do the summons expire
>Do the summons have an upkeep cost
>Do the summons go down when the summoner does
>What is the maximum range of the summoner
>Does the summoner need to actively control their summons
>Will the summons turn on the summoner if their control is disrupted
>Can the summons be desummoned either by a specific counterspell or by interference with the summoner
>How quickly can the summoner summon
>How much can the summoner summon before needing to rest

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>>97397912
A masquerade is much more common, easier to world build for since most of real history still happens, and much easier to get people to relate to what is happening since it uses the real world as reference.

An urban fantasy setting without masquerade has a much more difficult time world building but also a lot more creative freedom in how the existence of the supernatural impacts the modern world and you have a lot more stuff you can come up interesting things for.

>>97397912
The latter. Hidden magic generally either involves either ass worldbuilding or contrivances on the level of "the planet is sentient and fucks with people's senses to keep them from realizing magic exists when they really fucking ought to". Or shit magic.

>>97398024
>A masquerade is much more common, easier to world build for since most of real history still happens, and much easier to get people to relate to what is happening since it uses the real world as reference.
This presupposes that the setting is meant to be some equivalent of the real world Earth.

Literally nothing stops you from doing a masquerade on an alternate "present" or past or future for that matter.

>>97398087
>This presupposes that the setting is meant to be some equivalent of the real world Earth.
>Literally nothing stops you from doing a masquerade on an alternate "present" or past or future for that matter.
I guess, but at that point you're getting the worst of both. Like it's much harder to world build since you have to do it for both a hidden and open world and people will have less ways to relate to it.

Could still be fun though.

>>97397027
If you get the black and white copy it's only 40 bucks, which is actually a really good price for the amount of stuff you get.

>>97397239
>You wouldn't download a car

>>97397617
I download shit all day long, but even at the price of free, I still prefer 2nd edition over V20.

>>97382844
Okay but Requiem 2e is imo the best Vampire game

>>97397637
Really, what about 2e makes it your jam? Most people seem to recommend either revised or v20.

>>97397628
Sett is around $100, Master Yi is around $300. Next set, Irelia is meta she only needs a few "Epic" rarity cards for the deck to function. You can buy most of the cards she needs from set 1 right now for less than $30. Viktor will also be better next set and is cheap to make right now.

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it has been a blast playing this in my last matches. No more worrying about drawing sites. I just can't decide wether to go mono fire or water.

>images instead of pictures
I'm noticing.

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>>97394151
>Is Legend Draven that busted?
Yes. It draws a card for generally playing the game, meaning you never end up running out of answers.
Attack and take the battlefield? Draw a card.
Defend and keep your battlefield? Draw a card.
Defend and use one of the MANY Purple "haha no combat for you" abilities? Draw a card.
No once per turn, no exhaust, nothing gating it at all.
Pair it with the fact its got one of the best color pairs means Draven is fucking absurd.
>Red gives it great Spell-based removal options, both in offense and defense
>Purple gives it bounces, retreats, card draw and now a counterspell
And again, if you try to actually play the game against Draven and attack, then he uses something like Fight or Flight to "nuh-uh" your attack, that's him winning a combat. That Fight or Flight replaced itself.
Kai'Sa was busted because it let you use premium-costed spells with less of a detriment by paying for Power costs, but her decks at the very least were beholden to card advantage

>>97397760
I'd rather have the sorcerer and draw extra cards once I've ramped up

>>97397635
Okay when can we get rid of ugly and always badly drawn analogman?

>>97397759
Use Marvin and Kazu if you're that offended

>>97397402
If you downloaded the beta version its set to never connect to online matched with other real players. So maybe check if you have if youve forgotton, they look similar afterall

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I guess I have to play the Jupitermon deck

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>>97397759
Analman is peak though?

What's the closest to a BotNS or Dying Earth module/setting for OSR? Ideally ready made for B/X or OSE. I fucking love science fantasy, especially if it can easily be played for a while without the players knowing the true nature of the setting.

>>97397876
Checking:

1. Did you read Lungfungus' Actual Dungeon Mastering: How to Design Dungeons? The link is in the n00b's DMG Guide.

2. Did you watch GFC's DND's video on "How to Make a D&D Dungeon from Scratch"?
https://www.youtube.com/@gfcsdnd205/videos
if you haven't yet, watch it, and also watch all of the videos on that channel, they're great.

3. Did you try to create a dungeon using Appendix A? If you haven't, try it. Obviously it's not perfect, but it's pretty good and fun. And the DMG is required reading.

4. Kabuki Kaiser's Ruins of the Undercity and Mad Monks of Kwantoom are variants of Appendix A that give slightly different results, Kwantoom particularly.

5. Did you check out the Lurid Lairs cave generators on Wilderness Hexplore?


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>>97397995
No idea what "BotNS" is, but if it's science fantasy you're interested in, you could do worse than read Expedition to the Barrier Peaks cover to cover.

And you could steal the technologies from Mutant Future, if not everything else as well.

>>97398035
Thank you kind anon I will pursue this information.

>>97398035
If you want the dave's mapper geomorphs in a consistent set, take a look at
https://soaringmoon.itch.io/infinite-floorplanner

>>97397198
i can imagine chrosoma molding itself to look like a tiny raoh for some reason and raoh just lolwutting himself into another dimension

>>97397814
I can imagine Roah using Chorosoma like a fleshlight

>>97397843
Brapgoddess /ss/s them both with tags: size difference, feral, femdom.

>>97396104
If it's the Totallynotabot one, I think it was tried although not too seriously because it was just rolling and if you rolled any of the options below the 9 default points you might as not play. It also makes Heavenly Restriction just the strongest option. Getting an extra 2 points and having 250x human physical stats at the effective cost of 3 points, or just 2 if you are a drop-in, puts you ahead of essentially every other choice because you have 7 more points that you don't have to worry about dividing between cursed energy and talent like all how Sorcerers and Cursed Spirits have to.

>>97396731
Looking at the cast I thought there'd be at least one criminal, like fredrick sounds like he'd be one but he's apparently a performer? Same with Henryk being a civil servant rather than being a businessman. We also don't have a proper rebel or clanker character yet, but we do have a vampire and a werewolf for some reason. It's actually nice to see how different our doctors and insane crafters are despite or because of how much the cyoa leans on one or the other for the tech tree.

>>97395404
I have both, if I do dwarves I'm starting with salvagers though

Finally, some news
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qvxeezrk/sunday-preview-fell-hunters-and-faithful-wardens-clash-in-kill-team/
Box again looks quite minimal, it may very well not be much more expensive than the last one with just 16 models and some cardboard.

>>97396196
I mean this was all leaked like half a year ago except they decided to remove the shard of the nightbringer from the box in the end

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>>97358948
Based shark beaky

>>97396224
The news is more that we're suddenly looking at a preorder next week. Previously it was just a "soon", now we can expect some articles with previews over the coming week and full rules from review sources on saturday.

>>97397002

Jesus Christ try to put at least a little bit of effort to your minis. Disgusting. There are a ton of great board games on the market if you can't be bothered to paint.

>>97397075
>>97397313
>>97397568
You really have to reply three times? That is spam and that is a bannable offense FYI

>>97397002
So you know, we have a shitposter who attacks fantasy from any angle he can here relentlessly. If you see feminine hostility out of nowhere replying to your posts, assume it’s him, report him and ignore him.

>>97397596

I'm not the Perrynigger, but I believe that we ought to mock, ridicule and shame people who don't play with painted miniatures.

>>97397780
you better start mocking yourself then

>>97397780
Ok, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Can you post a single timestamped fantasy model? Or will you ignore me like in the last thread?

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>>97392985
The one with the axe is an engineer/sapper.

Depends on what makes a given individual feel like something is "forced" or "weird".

>>97390879

Right now.

Fantasy has always been about present times, it's not like if Tolkien did it mostly in not! late antiquity we need to be on his boat.

>>97396825
>Right now.
Fantasy right now feels forced and weird though.

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>>97390879
I mean, I think generally any setting in today's world without changes is probably going to feel a little weird as a TTRPG, because it probably can't avoid contemporary political issues as framing for the setting. I think you could probably manage up to early 1900's (noir and gangster/prohibition themed games could be fun) or skip over modern and shoot for nearish-future (CP2077 as an example). I don't think anyone really wants to play a game framed by current politicians and blm riots or any of that bullshit.

>>97392088
You can give everyone arachnophobia now. Even the people who have never had it before.

anybody find it odd that bogleech didn't come in this thread yet? He did for the last two, but not this one

>>97395422
probably got sick of this shit and decided not to bother anymore.

oh well. bogleech if you are reading this please give us an updated exovoros

bogleech if you are reading this please add sexy demon women to mortasheen

>>97395740
>please add sexy demon women
More Devilbirds you say?

>>97379160
It's not marketed as a series of Legos to build my own scenario, and if it was, it would be fucking bad at that. It's marketed as a good king in yellow scenario, but what it actually is is a series of scenes where the keeper describes something creepy happening, and then you leave that room and go to another room where the keeper describes something creepy happening, ad infinitum. Detwiler is a great writer, I enjoy his DG fiction, but his scenarios are all the same shit, either a collection of cut scenes or a bunch of information that the PCs will have no way to find out or interact with, usually with a single, hyper specific thing they need to accomplish to get any kind of resolution. He does everything that every single person with half a brain will tell you is terrible gming, but people lap it up because he's been grandfathered in as a """""great scenario designer""""" because he worked on the original DG.

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>>97364632
>shotgun scenario about using ICE operations as a cover to finish off a ghoul cult that DG couldn't get rid of during the Biden years
>players have to make regular drive rolls to escape Will Stancil's clapped out honda fit while boxing up captured ghouls into an unmarked fedvan
>+20 to a persuade roll if they make a reference to Elon, GrokAI, or twitter while trying to evade confronting the "Lawyer, Master of Black People" without violence

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>>97364572
Want my honest opinion? Modern Delta Green should set its primary scenario as mankind nearing a state of potential apotheosis into a Mythos entity, purely because of our increasing violence, self-destruction, and careless pursuit of higher sciences. Have every act DG commits to save mankind be the exact same thing that's going to drive it to become something nightmarish. Have it be EASY for operatives to hide themselves, get gear, do what they want with impunity, but always make those methods disturbingly callous and wasting huge amounts of human life (that nobody seems to really care gets wasted). Make it so that sometimes, an operation succeeds purely because the entity they were pursuing realized how fucking dangerous earth is now, and decided to leave while the gettin' was still good.

>>97390337
Sexo?

>>97397199
All Mythics might have been leaked.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1oxjWS_JRlA6jA5y2_iGFsyRVtSUrk_1fNqDRevkI6R0/htmlview

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Return to Creature World
Heavy focus on creatures that can be played as lands, or at least have landcycling
Madness but for Mill for Shield Triggers
Manga references and aesthetics

>>97396717
It could, imagine if in 2027 we get a gacha UB like Genshin

>>97398002
>It could, imagine if in 2027 we get a gacha UB like Genshin
Gacha UB, Kpop UB, TikTok influencer UB. The list goes on.

>>97398002
>>97398030
I don't know what would be worse, something like what you have mentioned or a UB of an IP that has one of the other major card games like Yugioh, One Piece or Pokemon specially if they don't get magic cards as well, can you imagine whoring out a maim set to one of your competitors?

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Made some with scythes too.

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Hey fellas,
i want to make a 2nd ed Ork army,
Printing isn't an option, i know of knightmare and renegade 93, they're great but i can't build an army out of them alone.
Do you guys have other recommended vendors?
i'm looking for that kev adams feel.
I saw warblade and while i like them the orks look and feel a bit wrong.

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>>97396052
You can get bunch of 2nd ed ork models second hand around the internet. I've bought all these fellas from multiple sources in wildly varying conditions. For that Kev Adams feel, there is seller on Etsy selling models based on those illustrations. They are pricy and yes, 3d printed. Are recasters an option? There are couple selling those old RT and 2nd ed sculpts.

>>97396221
>there is seller on Etsy selling models based on those illustrations
I know where they're getting the STLs from, i'm not opposed because i love me the Paul Bonner orks.
>Are recasters an option?
I have no problem with those fellas, i wouldn't have the Middle earth armies i got without them.

>>97241140
Are there any contemporary painting guides for this scheme? The pink is sick. I'm torn between this, old school Minotaurs or basic bitch Blood Angels for my 2nd starter set marines.

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>>97393693
>You want to shout over everyone elsr and abuse the permissability of the board's posting rules for your own benefit. When you disrespect the space you disrespect all the people in it. Since you've disrespected us, we disrespect you in your threads
Well said.

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>>97391485
In the past, it was in general expected that the majority of people engaging in a thread are playing or running, or have played or run games. Even if the thread or topic itself may not be directly related to actual games, most anons would talk about the topic with a /tg/ background of some sorts.

Fa/tg/uys can have a wide variety of interests that naturally come with playing or running games. Not just fantasy- and scifi-media, but also history, mythology, science, arms and armor, art and craft and much more. And sometimes the discussion gets sidetracked into something off-topic, but highly interesting and engaging for everyone, and then loops back around into being made specifically for the sake of games, be it as world-building background, or turning something into a creature, or coming up with cool mechanics or campaigns.

This reputation could mean that people from other boards come here to start some general fantasy, scifi or history discussion. But as long as they could keep up a good disguise and as long as the majority of people talked about these things with a /tg/-background, all was good. But over time, more and more people treated this place as "general fantasy shitposting board", after they jumped over from /a/ or /v/ to vomit some stupid idea into the catalog about elves, or make this a battlefield for fighting some perceived political enemy no, I'm not picking sides, all of you suck The general decline of quality on the whole website, and the sudden spike of popularity of traditional games over the last years didn't help. The overall increase of stupidity and vitriol makes it much more apparent when something or someone is just not /tg/, and anons will be less inclined to engage with a thread in good faith. In fact, man anons don't have faith anymore.

>>97392302
OP didn't make a point beyond crying about people "being negative".
So why come to a games board if you don't want to talk about games?

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>>97391485
>Why is there so much whinging about 'No Games' on this board?
because no games make trite, shit threads for talking in circles vaguely about traditional games, but never any fruitful conversation.
>but there seem to be some folks here who make it their mission to drop bursts of negativity in threads they should've known would enrage them
post something good, get something good. post something shit, get called a retard and told to end your own bloodline. post something not related to fitness in /fit/, get called a dyel. post something not related to games in /tg/ get called a no games. simple.
>And even in these threads that hold more general discussion, I don't see how nearly all of them are not at least tangentially related to traditional gaming.
because the conversation is endless and almost never tied back to traditional games. any "magic" thread has this problem. endless masturbatory imagining about how the magic system vaguely works in theory...
it's element based!
it's medieval occult!
it's vancian!
it's psionics not magic!
magic is just science!
blah blah blah
but never does anyone ever say "okay, here's how to works mechanically and here's an anecdote about how it played at my game table" which is the actually interesting part. talking about ideas is for faggots who imagine writing a book and think they're a writer, but never finish a chapter. it's endless circle jerking about the idea, never any playing. it'd be like if /fit/ or /ic/ were filled with people who talked about fitness and drawing, but never actually lifted or drew... oh wait.
Personally, i'm fine with non gaming related posts that talk about things ACTUALLY related to /tg/: established settings, miniatures, 3dprinting, the wider market and "gaming community," but if the topic never actually ties back to /tg/ then it's on the wrong board. the art threads are fine however. I like them. I save them to my pinterst boards.

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>>97393693
>We have no obligation to entertain you. We are also users, noone pays us to be here and we have no obligation to create a board that is personally accomodating to you.
>You want to shout over everyone elsr and abuse the permissability of the board's posting rules for your own benefit. When you disrespect the space you disrespect all the people in it. Since you've disrespected us, we disrespect you in your threads

This. Why should I respond sincerely to low effort threads like 'What are dragon farts like in your setting?' or bumps with surface level questions like 'Hmm, interesting, why do the demons read books?' This behaviour is not respectful or productive. it's taking a fat shit on my doorstep and expecting me to polish it into gold.

It's been an endless slurry of these threads and questions for years now. The nigger faggot OP says that you should sincerely respond to every single one with as much effort as possible. If that's what you really want, you have to reciprocate peoples' efforts and treat them with respect, not like you're feeding prompts into AI.

As it stands, my only reward for engaging with this is receiving yet another vague question with a bump twenty hours later. Until you stop doing this, I'm not giving you shit. So fuck off.