Felt cute, decided to run through another retro licensed choose-your-own-adventure. But first...ATTENTION MODS - THIS IS NOT A QUEST THREAD, BUT A GAMEBOOK STORYTIMEOkay, now that that's out of the way, let's begin...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6dNULgQe48
>>97176332The cieling thing sounds cool
>>97176378>Fuck it, might as well give that a tryOR>Overpower the guard outside the cellOR>Make a see-saw catapult with the planks and bricksOR>Climb up to the window
>>97176445>Fuck it, might as well give that a try
>>97176460
Quick, somebody roll 1d6+2!
The /btg/ is dead! Long live the /btg/!Honor the Dragon! editionPrevious Thread: >>97150045================================>BattleTech Introductory Guide & PDFshttps://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400>Overview of the Major Factionshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houseshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clanshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powersComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97175536Honestly, the CTF-1X. It's great in 3025.With newer tech, the CTF-4L. You really can't go wrong with a GR and an ERPPC.
>>97175626People are extra sensitive about it having a gauss rifle in the side torso with an XL like there aren't countless designs that put ammo racks and such there too.
>>97176158People have an issue with IS XL engines in general.>>97168005If you want Assault Mech speeds stick to Assault Mechs.Heavy Mech's with a 3/5 movement is just like walking outside wearing an A-frame that says "Rape me here"
>>97176158In my experience stuff like that only really matters if you care about salvaging or the pilot surviving. I can understand being a bit miffed if you're playing a more long form campaign style game and you end up with a mech with exploding torsos because whoever gets in that will probably die eventually.
>>97175819Not really, no. This is a deliberate part of the setting, because if it's too easy to shoot down DropShips, ground forces can't get to planets to have the ground fights the game is actually about
Deities edition>RPG Rulebookshttps://rentry.org/40kRPGLinks>Homebrew Collection (Feb 2025)https://rentry.org/40RPGHB>WANG/Imperium Maledictum Newshttps://cubicle7games.com/blog/warhammer-40k>Bestiary, armoury, weapon quality and NPC databasehttp://www.40krpgtools.com/>Dark Heresy 2e Character Creator:https://apps.ajott.io/dh2chargen/>General 40kRPG Encyclopediahttps://www.scholaprogenium.com/>Offline Combined Armory (v6.48.161023)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97174071My friend was like that as well and now he loves the setting. We convinced him to join a Dark Heresy campaign as a tribal death world recruit, so he could still play as a "fantasy" character, just thrown into a very alien world. He enjoyed it very much and soon got fully into 40k.Honestly nice thing about 40k is that depending on what you prefer you can present it as almost hard sci-fi with a few soft elements, you can present it as almost fantasy with a big focus on space knights and daemons, or you can present it as something in-between. So maybe just ask your players to give it a try for a single one-shot and lean more towards the second approach, who knows, maybe it will buy them. Just don't shower them in lore right out of gate Honestly from my experience people who claim they "don't like sci-fi" mostly have stuff like Star Trek or classic raypunk space operas in mind. Which is still abysmally shit taste, but 40k is almost as far away from that tonally and aesthetically as it is from D&D. And if they refuse to even give it a single try out of courtesy for you, that's just being a stubborn asshat
>>97172442gork and mork were created with the species, along with the Eldar gods. These "racial gods" are engineered psychic defence systems to ensure that these races do not create malevolent entities in the warp. The Eldar fucked this up by abandoning the worship of their own gods and becoming hedonists, while the Orks simply degraded because they were a rushed project made purely for fighting and the old ones were no longer around to reel them in.
>>97172900this is genuinely fucking terrible display from players. When I GM the players have ZERO say over what happens outside of their IC choices, they don't get to "plan arcs" or tell me where the campaign will head, and they dont get to retcon anything either. Also players need to learn that gear can be lost, this is not a video game where you get to keep a fancy gun forever. God Im so angry on your behalf, I hope thsoe faggots all get what is coming to them
>>97175548They didn't want to play his campaign and walked away. He's salty about it and tried to make them look like cartoon villains. I realize I'm biting engagement bait, but there's a slim chance some idiot is going to get as mad as you're pretending to be, so I'm going to post it anyway.
>meet smuggler man during warp travel in passenger ship>psyker notices this man is a blank with a dampener>we dont know what a blank actually is, but it being able to "quiet the warp still" sounds very useful if we can get him to work with us>meet up with him next day>call him on his bluffs and connect the dots he's working alone and has no backup>agree to back him up during landing since he's expecting an ambush>we owe him no favours, he will answer our questions and work with us until we let him go>overlook his current shipment of xeno weapons who oocly are dark eldar stuff for now>ask him to turn his dampener off, to see how the fuck a blank field looks/feels like>everything goes pitch black>a sputtering candle in a vast, open darkness>verispex helmet cant make any sense of whats going on>auspex freaks out>ominous wind blows around>feel the eyes of someone/something staring all around the enveloping darknessComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I am in the cursed position of having a fondness for both Dungeons & Dragons and Warhammer Fantasy. I want to try and create some armies for Warhammer based on factions from D&D lore, but I'm struggling to get my ideas off the ground. Any anons interested in helping out? My current ideas are for a Githyanki army (plus a Githyanki vs. Skaven siege scenario), an Imperial Arkhosian Army (dragonborn), and perhaps a Scro Invasion Force.
>>97170215This was a thing in the first edition.Try playing games first.
>>97170523>umberhulk, duergar and drow thralls/fodderthese are elite thralls and slaves, the fodder is the other races
>>97170215Haven't read the thread yet but are there many examples of armies in D&D? I'd imagine outside of B/X, full scale armies would be bullshit and OP, making the setting a bit OTT marvelesque?You get a similar thing when looking at TES military, it quickly becomes unfuckable garbage under scrutiny because armies have to be bulked out by generic infantry, cavalry & archer units when in reality even Joe the Shoe Cobbler can be slinging spells like an elite troop.
So, I said back at the start I really want to do a Githyanki army as part of this project, and this is my tentative outline for it so far...LORDS Not sure how to handle the iconic Gish as a Lord unit.>Grand Commander (the vanilla/customizable lord)>Hand of Vlaakith (Githyanki Knight Lord)>High Warlock (Warlock Lord)HEROES Not sure how to handle the iconic Gish as a Hero unit.>Supreme Commander (the vanilla/customizable option)>Warlock (Githyanki Wizard)>Ch'r'ai (battle standard bearer + priest - maybe fold into Warlock as suboption)>Duthka'gith Pyroclaust (Hero version of the Duthka'gith Holocaust Warriors, a Lore of Fire-wielding gish)>Knight Commander (Hero version of the Githyanki Knight)CORE UNITS Maybe just have one Troops, Githwarriors, and can build to represent Fighters, Scouts or Berserkers?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97170704So, Grimlock stats... any ideas? This would be my kneejerk outline:Stats:>Movement: 4>Weapon Skill: 3>Ballistic Skill: 0>Strength: 4>Toughness: 4>Wounds: 1>Initiative: 3>Attacks: 2>Leadership: 9Gear: Stone battleaxe (hand weapon)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
t's Da PDF Share Thread!Get ready to stuff your hard drive like a cosplay hooker at a con!STEP 0:<----- That image is not a PDF, it's an image, at least for now. Check the 4plebs link below to find the PDF.PLEASE READ DA FAQ BEFORE REQUESTING OR SHARING.It will answer 99% of your questions about this thread. If you haven't read it, we will know.STEP 1:Please exhibit good manners. Threads start sliding off the board after a certain number of posts. More posts wasted on being rude means fewer posts available for sharing.STEP 2:Request, share, stay awesome!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97174265Poor little cishet white boi is terrified of the fags and troons. Won't you think of the poor cishet white boi?
>>97173535thanks bruv
>>97173062Are you aware that you're fucking hilarious in the most pathetic way possible?
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but might as well. Anyone know where I could find quality 2d minis? LIke pic related.
>>97175770I try not to. They just whine ceaselessly.
Whip it Out Edition Here is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.>Build Divide>Force of Will>Final Fantasy TCG>DBZ CCG>Wixoss>Keyforge>Gundam>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)>Digimon>Flesh and Blood>Gate Ruler>Battle SpiritsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97173930Now they can finally ban Striders.>B-b-but VerdanceThe hero hits and defends above the entire game into an eventual huge combo, she doesn't really need a unique piece of gear that essentially make heroes play at 34 life
The lads were ahead of their time. Flesh and Blood was always a broken system. The players simply operated under the assumption that LSS knew what they were doing and hoped it would all work out in the end. Three years later and it just plain isn't working anymore.
>>97173063>LudonarrativeI can tell you had just googled the word, because you capitalized it.
I still haven't gotten around to watching that one video but I never expected FAB to be this contentious. I just thought it'd be a niche thing- it's hard to tell if the people complaining are jaded anti-fans or people who just didn't like it from the start.
>>97176377It's mostly just this thread, there are occasionally a few disgruntled opinions I see on other social media outlets but for the most part its pretty neutral. Generally when metas get boring/stale or when there's some controversy around you see a surge in posting. I think the Dev Talk video that people are crashing out about on here was pretty much universally well-received outside of their treatment of Blitz, which isn't the main thrust of the complaints here
The Three Emperors EditionPrevious thread:>>96939608>Thread Question:Do you plan any big projects for the next year already?>Community Summary of Wargames:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11JoUpGIRDp5DZdgJ24rijKHgyY-qvvR5QnVtHIp57Tw/edit?usp=sharing>List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R>ZunTsu Gameboxes:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Finally finished the box of french infantry, at least to tabletop play levels. Might add a wash an some grass later.Now I got my english army complete, and all of the french but the cavalry complete.
Some acceptable photos of my knights now. Glad heraldry was still simple during the 12th and 13th centuries.28mm Barons War minis by Footsore that I'm using for the Barons War Outremer expansion. The one in red is my leader, the historical figure Conrad of Montferrat, one of the leaders during the third crusade and was instrumental in preventing Saladin from capturing Tyre and later being elected king of Jerusalem before being murdered by the Assassins. His standard bearer flies the blazon of Jerusalem but his shield indicates he's from Ibelin.
>>97173903>>97174759Nicely done lads!
Any ideas for a good storage case for a bunch of 15mm minis? I was thinking magnetic if possible. Bases are all metal.
Is there a PDF of the new FoW Pacific book floating around?
Sorry for effortposting your Friday1. What systems have you found that have made combat engaging?2. What do you think is a satisfying duration for most fights? Over quickly? Or minimal resolution (followed by optional exposition)3. Do you find a sort of "bidding" of dice (such as in Riddle of Steel and her derivatives) fun? Or do you prefer the dice that you roll to be fairly consistent/static in their outcomes?4. Do you find "maneuvers"- like in Mythras- fun? Do you find that tracking a number of maneuvers grinds combat resolution down too slowly? What about a sort of freeform ability to spend "bonus success" on maneuvers (sort of "fiction first")?I'm thinking about my system. It's very inspired by Mythras, Forbidden Lands, and Riddle of Steel but I'm unsatisfied with it. I'd like to really look at the fundamentals- the statistics, the base mechanics, the speed of resolving each round- before tacking on additional details. Right now, I have attacker declaring an attack and defender declaring a reaction (dodge, parry, or block with shield), rolling a dice pool (attribute+professional rank+gear bonus) and comparing successes. Extra successes are spent on dealing more damage or performing maneuvers. I'm curious if anyone here has experiences in systems that they've found particularly fun, fast, engaging, and place a lot of decision pressure on the player (to replicate- in a way- the stress of combat)
>>97176265"Why is your game fun?" "Here are all of the things that I think my game does well/differently from among the variety of choices. These are things that I find fun because I enjoy things like simulating knightly duels to the death and modeling how armor would protect well against sword blows but not necessarily a poleaxe. You also get to engage in roleplaying, immersively, and creatively but with an set of mechanical guardrails that preserve realism and verisimilitude. It's not perfect, but it might enjoy rolling with my particular set of rules." "you can't answer my question and your game must be AI slop". At a certain point this exaggerated intentionally contrarian rage baiting just gets boring. I'm sure there's other threads on /tg/ more worthy of your time.
>>97176310>"Why is your game fun?" "Here are all of the things that I think my game does well/differently from among the variety of choices.None of these are actual answers, anon. I can't believe I have to explain this, but giving me a list of things your system can do is not the same as telling me why that's actually any fun or what the draw of it actually is.>At a certain point this exaggerated intentionally contrarian rage baitingAnon, if I were ragebaiting you I'd just intentionally misunderstand your system's rules and claim they're shit. I'm being nice by not relentlessly shitting on you for saying redundant, brainless things like>These are things that I find fun because I enjoy thingsNow please, try to answer the question.
>>97176343>I can't believe I have to explain this, but giving me a list of things your system can do is not the same as telling me why that's actually any fun or what the draw of it actually is."What's fun about playing baseball?""Oh, I enjoy hitting the ball, running around the bases, the teamwork, the competition.""All of those are things you do when playing baseball. I can't believe I have to tell you this, but nothing about that tells me why playing baseball is fun".I think you might be terminally autistic.
>>97176356>>97176361>the teamwork, the competition.Valid answers. What wouldn't be valid is saying>Well you hit a ball with a stick and run around.Which describes dozens of different sports.>I think you might be terminally autistic.t. Retard who thinks false equivalencies and strawmen are arguments. Sorry anon, but having to equivocate what people say to entirely different subjects is a sign of autism, not actually wanting an answer to a softball question.
Thread #01 Winter Wonderland.Welcome to /un0/, an RP thread for playing a World of Darkness/Chronicles of Darkness Hunter. For any OOC questions about WoD/CofD, check the official general. >>97089644Rules:>We are acephale. There is no storyteller, we are not a quest. >This thread is based primarily but not exclusively in the nWoD/CofD game Hunter: the Vigil. However, Vigil is defined by being highly setting agnostic, with a system for creating entirely custom monsters that do not exist in other WoD/CofD games. Thus, you have significant freedom in what you want to play and what you want to hunt. Feel free to play a member of the Society of Leopold, or a member of the Lucifuge hot on the tail of a Lasombra. >Namefagging is encouraged but by no means mandatory. >Keep in mind that even highly experienced Hunters typically only have fractured pieces of the puzzle, and every table has their own canon. The night is dark and full of misinformation.>/un0/ is conceived of as an experimental end to end encrypted program that is very hard to compromise, retains very little data and purges that data regularly. Please play an actual Hunter. >Spoiler any OOC discussion.Happy hunting.
>>97176193>>97174733England has trolls & "giants" & fomori & such. Lots of cultures have "primitive ape man". Could just be their own thing. Not ruling anything out though.As for the silencing charm thats more than enough. Just send the stolen whisper (needs to be personal to you) in a jar as fast as you can & I'll get it back to you after a day of enchantment. Idk what the shipping time will be from wherever youre at & me. Im over by the great lakes right now.
>>97174585I'm mostly calling it that because thats where the spirit came from. We didnt get any GPS pings using the drone & had to run a transmitter radio dohickey through the portal to pilot the drone. Brooklyn knows more about it that I do
>>97090196>We are acephaleWhat does this mean?
>>97176408>acephalehttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/acephalous
>>97176408It means the rest of us are erudite verbalists
Finally figured it out! The DNDs' Fighter can beat all Fai!You know how Fai can be fight with only Gold Iron? Problem is, literally nobody knows what Gold Iron is...Dreadbone Heights, Mid Town Manhattan... Fighter is in Holi Mountain Inn 'n' Out... lots of 8x8s... that's when he realizes! Gold Iron is Gold + Iron!Fighter gets Pickaxe like in mc... starts digging down! Falls!'I'm literally the God of making water Buckets disappear so People get instantly assassinated by Ground!'D*mn... Fighter has no more water Bucket! Wait... Spit is Water! Flips so Head falls first... spits! Lands on Spit... no Damage!God is sad... literally explodes!Fighter gets Gold Ore + Iron Ore...Fighter goes to 711, uses Microwave, sets to literally 9999 degree C...Puts Basket of Gold Ore + Iron Ore inside, lets cook for hours... does p*ss... takes out of Microwave...You know how Gordon Ramses tests Hotness by drinking straight from frying Pan? Fighter does same... holy sh*t is hot!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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So, now you need to decide. Do you close your eyes to what you've seen and go back to sleep? Or do you come with this psycho burnout and do the impossible against the unbelievable and keep the future at bay for another day? What's it going to be? In or out?Yeah? You dumb shit.>Thread Question:What conspiracy trope do you use the most and how mythos-adjacent do you make it?>Unofficial Resources:https://delta-green.neocities.org
>>97172012I'll lay down the skinny.>Campaign OneThe party is a bunch of retard security guards at the Spencer Estate before the first outbreak, handpicked to be the kind who overpunish and don't ask questions, except for Tör (an obvious Umbrella Europe plant).>One boring night during their shift>Red alarms everywhere>Brass needs an immediate deployment>Weapons clear, so our gaggle of jerkasses bully the armorer into getting some kevlar, THE MAGNUM, and a remington shotgun>A scientist took his buddy hostage and fled with 'proof of company wrongs' to an abandoned amusement park>Said park is a base for rabid anti-Umbrella terrorists ('ecoterrorists')>mallcops deploy in force to fight cletus and his shellshocked buddies in the park, both parties get to learn what a proto-hunter is because the company wanted some insurance>Ultimately it becomes a bizarre midwest mogadishu, so professionals are dispatched>When HUNK and the company men finally arrive the whole park is on fire, both scientists are dead, as are all the terrorists and most of the partyThe best part is, one of my players - sweet, precious soul that he is - told the UBS guys that he'd been bit.You can guess how he ended up.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97174285A quick shout-out to my favorite moment of campaign 2.Only a few players could make it, so we did a one shot (one of many) that still would advance the overall story without leaving the rest of the party stranded.First, the dramatis personae in question, the two MVPSEnter Digby:>Survivor from Campaign 1>Paul Blart phenotype, fat, loser Racoon City Native>Turned down by the National Guard>Turned down by RCPD>King of Stolen Valor>Run by the best player in the group with the absolute most dogshit stats, absolute expert in company policy and bureaucracy but fuck all else>Wants nothing more than to be a hero, absolute loser in his 'civilian' lifeTor>obvious Umbrella Europe plant>former GSG-9Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97174493They engage in a four hour long (IRL) investigation of a resort-turned-evangelical Christian retreat built on top of a failed Umbrella site.After a ton of sleuthing and a couple accidents, they quicken the draining of the scenic pond which was being drained due to a suicide where a few peeps drove their jeep straight in and died.Entire pump system / housing unit now deflooded in the hole filled with BOWs who were personnel of a rival corp who tried to poach Umbrella's Operation here.BOWs are light-sensitive, so initially none seems amiss.UBCS command orders them to investigate.They do.As the team rappels down into the hole, they begin working through the site and collecting what they can, when it becomes clear the BOWs are all over the place.As they begin retreating, the natives get aggressive.>While withdrawing, Digby is stung by a creature and fails spectacularly, leaving him paralyzed waist down>Committed to the Company, once he kills the thing he takes a bio sample and then passes it on to the team>runyoufoolsdotjpg>As the team rappels back up, Tor hits a complication on his connection with Digby from the last campaign>Dives back into the hole to save the homie>Digby and Tor fend off the BOWs with magnum and an AR, jury rig a joint rappel, and start scaling upComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97171913Sounds awesomeI've always thought the little mention of a Nemesis prototype being too self-aware and attempting break out of an Umbrella lab that's in 3 could be a fun hook for a scenario.
>>97131870Got a link?
RIFTS! The science fantasy world of post-apoc cyborgs, wizards, dragons, ninjas, giant mecha, super-nazis, robot ninjas, vampires, underwater kingdoms, remnant human supertech civilizations and everything you can imagine all rolled into one setting where interdimensional RIFTS have pierced Earth's fabric and turned it into a playground for aliens and monsters!Plus other Palladium Games about superheroes, zombies, classic fantasy, supernaturals investigation and more. Talk about:>RIFTS(tm)>Heroes Unlimited>Palladium Fantasy>Beyond the Supernatural>Dead Reign>Robotech (lol)>TMNT & Other Strangeness + After the Bomb>Splicers>Nightbane>Savage RiftsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I have to say, the redone/colorized artwork for TMNT Redux is pretty sweet.
GW kept mentioning space marines or even primarchs coupling with regular human women and it always took me out of it. Like how the fuck? Wouldn't she get ripped in half? But then it dawned on me. They just have tiny penises. Well not by human standards, but relative to body-size. Like think about it, why would you supersize the dick too when there literally do not exist women big enough to handle that size? So the simplest explanation is they just keep the penis size of a regular human.
>>97172457Do you often think about cock OP?
Mersadie Oliton described Loken as 'equine' upon first meeting him (while he was changing).Then there was a Grey Knight attached to an Inquisitor's retinue"On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel.Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it."So apparently women don't think they're small.
>>97172483fpbp
>>97172483Bump
>>97172457No, but their fans do/obvious joke
"God of Variation" editionPrevious >>97123767>Basics Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/GWjTU9Uv>Anon's Locals Survival Guidehttps://pastebin.com/xXp5jShL>Fanmade PC simhttps://pastebin.com/u6aKrBSg>Official Mobile sim (Release Date TBA)https://www.digimon-alysion.com/en/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97175629>blitzgreymon>doesn't have《blitz》
>>97174424Yukihana Lamy
>>97175641Amazing to read that!The game is soo much fun desu, I am glad you had fun too :DWhat deck(s) are you planing on building now? :)
>>97175724Just ones based around Digimon I like. That means an Angemon themed deck is first and foremost. Aside from that...I've found that amongst my cards I have a Sukamon line which has me intrigued. I'd like to try and build a deck around that shitmon. Doesn't even have to be good, just for the lols.Some sort of Agumon deck seems like its on the table.I like VenomMyotismon, but also find myself interested in making a MaloMyotismon deck and the various cards that support it. Something with Myotismon anyway.Gigadramon and Megadramon are 2 ultimates that I feel never get proper respect, so a deck for them, with probably some version of Machinedramon as their Mega.I have every common, uncommon, and rare from the recent Hacker's Slumber set, so I feel like I should try and make some sort of CS deck. Maybe half Makiko Date w/Lopmon & Antylamon and half Goro Matayoshi w/Birdramon, Garudamnon, & Phoenixmon. I have all of those already, just need to decide what else to fill in the gaps with I guess.Last, for now, but definitely not least. I saw that the Dark Masters have an archetype. I'm really not sure where to start with building that deck, besides the Dark Masters & Spiral Mountain, but I definitely want to give them a go. That seems like it'd be really cool to me. Could probably even include Apocalymon in such a deck. The high end seems obvious, it's the low end that I really don't know about.I'm sure there will be a lot more as I love building decks for games, but these are what immediately come to mind for me.
>>97175452>there's actually going to be a playable Appmon deck
Work in Progress,Trench Crusade Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97176010Thanks for letting me know, anon.Merry Christmas!
>>97176137>You can't trust any ball bearings you get to actually be decent stainless steel even if that's what it says on the package.the ones on mcmaster say exactly what alloy they are and unlike ali express I actually believe it
>>97176017We are in your walls downloading poutine unto your fridge.
>>97176109And how are you checking the type of steel you buy?
>>97176382It says "stainless" on the order page, that means it doesn't stain, silly.