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/lmg/ - a general dedicated to the discussion and development of local language models.

Previous threads: >>106522347 & >>106516368

►News
>(09/08) OneCAT-3B, unified multimodal decoder-only model released: https://onecat-ai.github.io
>(09/08) IndexTTS2 released: https://hf.co/IndexTeam/IndexTTS-2
>(09/05) Klear-46B-A2.5B released: https://hf.co/collections/Kwai-Klear/klear10-68ba61398a0a4eb392ec6ab1
>(09/04) Kimi K2 update for agentic coding and 256K context: https://hf.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct-0905
>(09/04) Tencent's HunyuanWorld-Voyager for virtual world generation: https://hf.co/tencent/HunyuanWorld-Voyager

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>>106531851
I've had a long standing disdain for tripfriends since I was in /p/.

>>106532673
Are people really confusing the BeaverAI page as the official source? Those are test models published publicly so anyone can comment on them. If you want my official releases, check hf.co/TheDrummer , not hf.co/BeaverAI
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>>106531951
Pleaes stop putting random unrelated words everywhere, it makes your posts very annoying to read.
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>>106532791
>"Boo hoo trip codes le bad!"

What's the point of "name fagging" here without if anyone can impersonate you? What kind of autism is that?
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>>106532822
yes but even a small comment detailing what makes for example... Cydonia Redux different from regular cydonia. like why publish if you dont tell anything? retard
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>>106532821
>yet, motor, said, medicate,unconvincing
yes, model, set, mediate, on convincing

i think i decoded it

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>paper test in class
>ez i'll cruise it
>grab the paper, see c program for first exercise
>yeah i'll def cook it
>>on x86_64 what would the output of this program be
>who cares about 86, you old boomer, what's the fucking difference, it's just a c program, your days are over
>this question is so fucking easy, you ain't fooling me with pointer arithmetic, i'm a pointer fucking master
>a week later
>0/5 for this question
>my friends who couldn't even READ the program and got confused by the pointer arithmetic eneded up with the same grade as me lol
how was i supposed to know what little indians and big indians are ffs
and i find it so scary actually that the memory layout isn't as i thought it was lol
it was not the exact same code but something like that btw. and ofc on paper there was no shiny color
i thought i knew everything but i got humbled HARD though
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>>106532221
show me real system programming that only uses 'the c standard' and nothing more, no win32, no posix, no glibc specific etc..
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>>106532221
You might be right but it isn't clear if the exam is about the C language or about computer architecture, because that code is useless for either case and it encourages bad practices.
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>>106532293
I would assume from the type of question that this is a computer architecture class, not a C class. I agree that this question would be obnoxious in an exam for a class on C.

>because that code is useless for either case
What is wrong with this code as an exam question on computer architectures? If C is expected background knowledge and x86_64 assembly isn't, which is not unreasonable, this question seems like a fine test of whether you understand memory usage.

>it encourages bad practices.
I can't say I have ever used exam code is an inspiration for good practices. Half of the programs in exam questions are explicitly about "what is wrong with this code", any examples in exams everywhere should always be interpreted as archeological artifacts rather than good examples.
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>>106532228
this is so cool
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>>106531572
So the trick question is whether it prints
aa .. 22, 11 .. 88
or 22 .. aa, 88 .. 11?

Depending on the architecture and compiler it is not guaranteed to be the same.

But I remember that big endian is used in networking and networking is "different".
Which means it should be little endian for non-networking in x86. You can infer that little endian is the "normal one". And while at it we can say that normal (little) endian is how *bytes* are ordered in a multibyte number akin to how "bits" are ordered in binary number (actually any base system).

We had no questions like that at my school on tests and it's weird that they ask this.
We actually had only one subject in C in first year which was basic programming course.
I would probably fail this question at that time, because I sucked at C and only actually understood it years later.

For computer architecture course we had only paper test with no code at all, raw facts and closed questions tests. Lab for that though was in assembly in DOSBox using NASM which was hard again, because at this time I sucked at low level things.

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Has AI plateau'd?
Give it to me straight.
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>>106530685
4 to 5 was a decrease in almost every way that matters.
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>>106530631
In some measures it has plateau'd but that also doesnt mean its gonna stop advancing

Its already at a place where it is a real threat to entry level jobs
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>>106532782
>no call me baste i want muh /pol/ echo chamber
Just go, this isn't working out.
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Transformer AI has.
Until someone makes a better model, it will forever be fucking around with values that maybe give slightly better generation times, maybe beat a pointless benchmark and cost a mansion to do so.
Deepseek was the only major change in recent times that resulted in a huge boost to generation speeds.
Chain of Thought isn't revolutionary - half the fucking time the models ignore their steps, and I was doing that shit manually way back on Character AI, it's the same damn model going schizo with itself but automated.
I can typically get better outputs WITHOUT the CoT being on, which is why ChatGPT5 sucks particularly bad due to its automatic mode switching. They really fucked up with it.

Don't even get me started on AI Agents, most of the time they ignore their own fucking API calls or send back malformed shit, then have catastrophic breakdowns.
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>>106532795
>it's still retarded and still hallucinates the same shit over and over
It literally doesn't matter.
If there is even a 0.01% chance that it could be wrong then it it useless because that means that all output needs to be validated for anything that matters.

The core issue is that a machine can never be held accountable when it tells the button pusher monkeys running it to eat 500 grams of Tylenol instead of 500 milligrams and someone ends up dead from liver failure.
Because of that it doesn't make a shit what AI can do, if it can't produce verifiably correct results 100% of the time then it will only ever be used for shit that doesn't actually matter.
And news flash, shit that matters are typically the things people are actually willing to pay for. Your blogspam shit website doesn't matter, your stupid newsletter and spammy marketing materials don't matter, doctors matter, lawyers matter, engineers matter.

>intel arc pro b50
>passmark g3d scores of 18000
>16GB vram
>4x displayport
>70W, no PCIe power needed
>dual slot low profile
>fully open source linux drivers
>$350

This thing blows rtx 4060 lp (115w) and 5060 lp (145w) out of the water.
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>>106518987
It has 200GB/s bandwidth
it's garbage
At least wait for the B60
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>>106531466
Two more weeks. Jewtel still has over 20B in cash and short term assets. Over 150B in long term assets. The only nuclear scenario for Jewtel would be if they have to write off Intel 16A in 2027/2028 and then ditch their Fabs and go full TSMC which all of their current gen products are already on as a stopgap for Intel 16A
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this isn't really relevant, but is there any distinction between implementing gpu architecture for arm vs x86 CPU in an SOC context?
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>>106532798
secondary accelerators are ISA agnostic
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essentially T4's but accessible to non enterprise, just feels like intels still 2 generations behind

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>>106532028
Isn't TPM just a PCIe device that can be emulated like anything else?

>>106532528
Seems like a cat & mice game. They can try to detect that they're in a VM, which VM devs will fix. Repeat forever.
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>>106532028
you can game on a VM?
would a VM be able to get around EAC not booting?
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>>106532684
Yea I think EAC is the most documented one to get around. The VR Chat wiki has an entire article basrd around it:

>https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/using-vrchat-in-a-virtual-machine
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>>106532637
>Isn't TPM just a PCIe device
I2C actually.
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TPM does roughly the same as chips in chip cards: it stores private keys without any way to access them. You can totally emulate that from the host.
(although it waters down the actual idea of having securely stored keys)

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>>106447990
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet + the TrackPoint
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

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>>106531845
>DDR4
T460 had DDR4, and it was a big jump in CPU since it was the first generation of Skylake. But you're right that there wasn't much difference in thickness.
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anon who ordered the 175€ i7 T480 last thread here, thought I'd give an update
I received the laptop 30 minutes ago. specs are almost as advertised, with a single exception: it wasn't mentioned anywhere on the listing, but I received the model with the Nvidia GPU inside. doesn't matter to me as I'll disable it anyway, but that's extremely cheap for a dGPU model
keyboard is an original LiteOn backlit, the best I could get basically. screen bezel frame I'm a bit bothered about since I got the one with the IR sensor on it and without the slider to hide the camera. I'll have to see if my other T480's bezel fits but I think it's slightly damaged and has one or two clips missing I believe. was about to start swapping the parts with my i5 so I'll see
it came with only one battery (as advertised) but it's the internal one that's missing, kinda sucks since that's the one I don't a spare for. I'll order one later. external one didn't seem to charge when I quickly tested it but I have spared anyway
came with a single 16GB RAM stick (thought it'd be 2x8), no big deal though, that stick will go into the i5 and I probably have an identical one to pair with somewhere. SSD is NVMe, good. laptop is in good external shape, was very slightly dirty but nothing too bad. screen seems to be the stock panel and has a couple small white dots on it, no big deal since it'll be swapped for my A485's pristine display when its upgrade arrives. BIOS seems older so I'll update that
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Is there any way to tell if this X280 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/127360491356) is HD or FHD screen? The seller didn't include that info.
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>>106532104
the chinkpad...
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>>106532630
The photo with the screen shining on the keyboard shows TN-like discoloration and only HD screens were TN

Choose Evropa. Choose openSUSE.
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Oh boy you picked the wrong fucking time to make this thread.
I spent 4 years using tumbleweed and watched it erode to a unusable barely functioning piece of shit within the past year and a half the following has happened
>More package breakages
>Zero mantainince or even care regarding syncing the nvidia free drivers with the correct cuda version (Many distros of similar size and smaller have done this)
>Poor planning and half assed measure to remove yast with other tools poorly cobbled together making a poor user experience
>overall poor integration with KDE features like discover
>Slow as fuck package manager because like most things they don't actually fix it but move it around praying that everyone will forget it, perhaps they shouldn't have chased away their talent?
>Stealth replacing neofetch with the tranny variant without having the balls to give it's proper name and use the original projects name in the packages and call
There is zero reason to use this piece of shit in it's fractured broken state, there even seems to be less devs present with the increase of broken packages and lack of maintenance
I moved to fedora where shit doesn't break every 2 weeks for me.
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>>106532661
>Stealth replacing neofetch with the tranny variant
what happened
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>>106530312
>>106530505
>>106530545
>>106530563
Reminder that these people don't discriminate against jews because they're jews.
They discriminate against jews because they love muslims.
You are not the same.
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>>106532761
Neofetch program shut down and instead of using a program that performs like the old application (many exist) they decided to add hyfetch but still call it neofetch which gaslit me into thinking something was wrong with my computer because that tranny shit takes up to 3-5 seconds to even show the info which is fucking insane and even more assnine when fastfetch is in the repo
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>>106532391
>You'll still be using woke
nobody cares, muttjeet.

Unfortunately it looks like 2025 will not be the year of the linux desktop.
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>girlfriend
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lol, ur imaginary girlfriend is retarded (you)
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>>106532202
Is your gf's cock big?
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>/g/ - Advice
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>>106532546
dis nigga tells da truf

How to request advice:
https://rentry.org/hpgdoc

>/iemg/ told me $20 IEMs sound better than any headphones
/iemg/ is a pedo furfag shill zone. Do not take anything they say seriously.

>Headphone Power Calculator
https://www.headphonesty.com/headphone-power-calculator/

>Sub-$99
• Philips SHP9500 / SHP9600
• Audio-Technica ATH-M40x
• Shure SRH440
• Fostex TH7
• Used Sony MDR-7506

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Another perfect day for some good Stax listening.
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>Location
SEA
>Budget
$100
>Intended use
Music
>Kind (open or closed, over-ear or on-ear)
Closed, preferably with a mic that'll do the job for voice calls in a pinch
>Preferred tonal balance (or genres you like)
I like jrpg music and etsuko yakushimaru
>Past headphones and your thoughts on them
HyperX Cloud Stinger 2. It sounded fine and wouldn't mind just rebuying it (right speaker stopped working after 4 years), but cleaning that thing was so annoying and the volume knob had to be taped so it wouldn't change by itself so preferably something higher build quality
>Source(s) (PC, interface, headphone amp, phone, ...)
PC
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>cunt next door has bass speaker outside
what speakers to buy to blast some music at this cunt?

https://www.jarcomputers.com/tonkoloni-cat-204.html
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>>106531470
ATH M20x + Fifine K668 or some other condenser mic
>>106532185
Hit him with picrel. 50 inch.
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>>106532635
There's a K371 with damaged box for $50 on a clearance sale, should i go for that?

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>>106527347
>autistically arguing over amount of generated assembly instructions
thank you for reminding me why i should stop visiting this board. if i'd care about that stuff i'd just write stuff in assembly
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It's same shit under the hood
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I love it when a thread begins looping because nobody reads more than the last 3 posts.
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>>106532756
>rust needs glibc to correctly operate
pathetic
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>>106527398
what a fucking ugly language

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Everything is already from China, but here we discuss the cheap chink shit you see on various sites.
1st rule of /csg/: If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

Useful links
>TWS IEM reviews: www.scarbir.com/
>Guide: csg-guide.neocities.org/
>Wiki: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Chink_Shit_General

>What headphones/earbuds should I buy?
>>>/g/iemg
>I want a cheap smartphone what should I buy?
>>>/g/spg/
>I want to buy some sort of emulation device
>>>/vr/hhg/


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I quite enjoy chink/jap landscape paintings (mountains, rivers, few buildings, few or no people, vegetation). Does anyone have any store recommendations?
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I like reading product reviews when I'm bored at work.
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Any guide on maximizing coins/offers/etc on AliExpress?
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>>106531505
>These batteries have circuit that output constant 1.5v at all time
If it's truly constant through a BMS, then you can just attach a resistor and a LED in series, measure the current, calculate the power draw from that (or calculating it from voltage, resistor and LED power draw) and then measure time until the LED turns off. Make sure the resistor is large enough that it doesn't get (too) hot.
>I think you fully charge, then use something to discharge and monitor voltage+ current until it reaches 0. But probably unreliable
Again, power is just voltage times current over time. As long as those measurements are correct, the result is correct. The pain in the ass is knowing when it's fully discharged, which you need the LED for.
Or use a simple arduino nano, those can measure both and a sketch that takes measurements in an interval and adds the values up is trivial. Plus it will have a auto-shutoff function then.
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>>106531902
Basically you get points for being a good boy, engaging with the platform and, most importantly, spending money. You lose points for many disputes, being a bad boy, or shit like that. They also decay over time.
The higher the tier of goodboy points you reached, the more lenient support will be, the easier disputes go through, and you may be first in line for some coupons and shit. There were also storewide flat discounts you could get in the past for some tiers, but I think those are gone now.
TL;DR: Ali rewards you for being a good customer and punishes you for being a bad one. Chinese social credit ftw.
>>106532474
The people spamming the same word or sentence to get to max coin rewards, or adding images that aren't of the item as reviews should get demoted in the internal rating and fucked over. It lowers the quality of the reviews.

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Refuel Edition

>Software Development & Programming
DevDocs - https://devdocs.io/
Stack Overflow Blog - https://stackoverflow.blog/

>IT Operations & Infrastructure
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
https://status.cloud.google.com/

>Disability
https://www.usa.gov/benefit-finder/disability
https://www.canada.ca/en/services/benefits/finder.html

>Job Listings

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>>106532379
Even a popular drug dealer makes shit money compared to what you can make at even a jeet factory for software. Not to mention the risk to life when the next criminal decides to outsource your brain out of your skull.
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>>106532385
You can't. My manager mentioned the other day that we only hire junior engineers. When I pressed him on this he admitted that we hire mid level engineers and call them junior but we don't hire people straight out of college. Pretty fucked.
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>>106532672
Any oldfag uk anons here? Was the UK at it's peak in the 90's (disregarding the 1800s opium profits and colonialism)?

In Canada it felt like the inflection point was in 2019
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>>106532701
LMAO
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>>106532640
waaa waaa waaa just go live in the woods waaawaa

/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Ayanami Edition

>News
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/
Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5
Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.1 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

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>>106532532
Aistudio and OpenRouter free models
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it's over
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>>106532797
....9000?
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>>106532806
the pink cunny has dieded
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>>106532827
rip honse

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>When I tried to figure out what was going on, the language had changed since the last time somebody had posted a description! And so it took days to write a program which in other languages would take maybe five minutes!

Is this why most of the rust programmers are trannies? Because they like pain and suffering?
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>>106526483
It's a huge downside to social media bubbles, especially those enforced by community voting (and thumbs being put on the scale for preferred narratives). It's altered many people's way of thinking, impacting them in the world beyond computing.
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>>106531417
>Why ripgrep so much faster
it's multithreaded and uses a non-POSIX regex engine
>why not improve the older utils
POSIX doesn't allow either improvement
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>>106525244
> caring what boomers think
If you care what Brian Kernighan thinks so much why don't you go join the IDF?
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>>106532045
>If you care what Brian Kernighan thinks so much why don't you go join the IDF?
>your brain on rust
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>>106531103
ignorant tryhard

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I've tried to move to Firefox from Chrome, but Firefox is just so fucking clunky it's unbelievable.
It has so many annoying quirks that make it a pain to use.
Chrome just fucking works.
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>>106532089
what browser are you using?
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>>106532089
All these problems that I have not had in the last 20 years of using firefox, sounds like a you problem
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>>106527086
>chrome better accommodates for my mental illness
Remove yourself, you will never need those tabs, either save them into bookmarks, or just close them

>>106518247
Only bad thing is shit performance, but it's still better than supporting the Google monopoly over the web standard.

>>106519582
Not fault of Firefox, but web devs.
Chromium is made for zoom zoom toddler devs who barely understand what a header is, so it silently ignores a huge amount of security and web standard violations, Firefox does not and actually enforces them, so if devs fuck up CORS setup, you get errors, you also get cookie warnings, because again, webshitters can't bother to actually test their website beyond "do pretty colors show up?"
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>>106532534
>Not fault of Firefox, but web devs.
not true.
if firefox had the users chrome has we would develop for firefox etc.
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Skill issue.


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