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What will this thing do that a $500 one won't?
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>>64635727
>best
So good the US military dropped it immediately and went back to the SR-25 they hated lol
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>>64632176
All of this is cope aside from the subjective
>looks good
>spark joy
You're literally getting ripped off if you buy something like that for any reason other than "I like this specific one and none other will do"
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>>64635232
>UMP is better than the G36
Better in fulfilling its design role.
G36 sucks at accuracy under sustained fire
UMP is a submachine gun it doesn't need to be accurate past 50 yards
(as mentioned upthread, the 'tolerable' G36 variants are the short-barrel ones because they don't even have to be sustained fire accurate past 100 or so yards)

>UMP was bad
Maybe compared to an MP5 or whatever boutique submachine gun they had but it's perfectly serviceable reliable tough indestructible and fulfils the design submachine gun role perfectly. (You) may not like the UMP, I want a select fire one in .45 ACP

Order of the three HK designs remains
1. MP7
2. UMP (submachine guns suck and are gay anyway)
3. G36
That's the order of how 'good' the HK polymer 1990s wonders are.

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>>64636608
The UMP is an awful gun and you're a retard. Fortunately for everyone you'll only ever touch guns in videogames.
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marge

QTDDTOT
How much of a serious difference is there in between various brands of 5.56? Assuming same grain weight, bullet type, whatever. I'm trying to buy ammo in bulk and I'm struggling to figure out what brands to buy for both M193 and M855. Currently looking at Winchester for both just because it's cheap and there's a rebate for them. Both will just be for plinking and hoarding.
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>>64635633
I like my Chinese SKS FWIW but putting a dot or scope on it isn't straightforward if that's what you want. Mostly full rear sight replacements to give it a rail rather than any other options. The safety isn't modern, that's for sure, but it isn't horrible.
>Have an AKM
That's really vague; there's so many makers, unless you mean you hate the AKM design entirely.
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>>64632507
I can give a few more details:
>Rifle is from LaRue
>Comes with a can
>.308 comes with one of the best rated semi auto cans on the market
>6.5 creedmoor comes with a 6mm can
That's all I know for now. I have no been told more by my boss until tomorrow.
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>>64635737
Yeah, I don't really care for the AK platform in general. I bought it years ago, went through the trouble of having it converted (its a Saiga and was in a sporterized configuration originally) and spent who knows how much money on furniture but I can't make myself like it. Made my original post since I saw a SIG 553R on gunbroker and I kind of liked it. I'm considering just getting an AR in x39 but I hear a lot of those have problems with the bolts
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>>64635805
556R* rather
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>>64634080
>California?
Yeah sadly
>Hopefully not the latter because it would re start the waiting period.
yeah thats my biggest fear since the earliest i can pick it up is December 23, if it gets delayed it would be after christmas and thats just an unfortunate inconvinience

i'll go and call them up on Monday and hopefully have it fixed without incident

Ammo compatibility is king for the apocalypse. The best ammo is the one you use.

> The list:
> 9mm Parabellum. Most available handgun caliber hands down
> 7.62x39mm usual. Usual AK pattern rifle round
> 5.56x45mm NATO. Usual AR pattern rifle round
> 12 gauge
> .22 LR. Can be bought very cheaply in bulk. Useful for practice and small game hunting.
> .357 Magnum. .357 Revolvers have great ammo compatibility with many calibers
> 7.62x51mm NATO/.308 Winchester
> 7.62x54mmr
> .45 ACP
> 30-06 Springfield
> 300 AAC Blackout?


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>>64636473
Casting definitely saves money, I use roofing lead, a laser themometer, a lee melter which is I think induction and lee, saco and lyman moulds for everything from round ball for cylinder shotguns to long range muzzleloaders and percussion pistols as well as BPCR guns, if you get a hardness tester you can get into alloy bullets with a bit of zinc on hand. The ting about reloeading is what it lets you do noty really what it saves in costs. If you are a cometitive even in 22 you are measuring and batching rim thickness for example well in any real long range precision area you are going to me making your own ammunition as part of the art
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>>64636492
Yeah probably but I said bottlenecked high pressure cartridges so that's most 30 cals and 55.6 stuff and 7mm, 8mm, 270, 243 etc. I would not push 44 mag brass too hard either. If you have a revolver in a fantasy apocalypse scenario you can deprime, reload the primers and then just fill to the brim with BP and cast a bullet, you don't need to keep running smokeless at all. Its pretty ideal because you will get a dud primer but you just have to pull the trigger again and you will probably get a cylinder off before the BP starts effecting the weapon. Semi autos are a different matter


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>>64636468
Youre right. I guess I meant reload steel in times of scarcity if you already have the tools and correct propellant. In shtf getting the right double base propellant in your correct burn rate isn't happening.
Weird shit was going down in covid. Guys loading 30-06 duplex using unique and .50 cal and 20mm surplus pull down powder.
But that's for temporary scarcity.
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>>64635897
Get a glock 19, ar-15, mossberg 500/remington 870, 10/22, and a flintlock rifle complete with miniball bullet molds. Now you have the best north american kit for under $3k and can feel free to buy whatever other guns tickle your fancy and dump excess money into ammo, sulfur, and potassium nitrate. Honorable mention to a remington 700 in .308 if you live somewhere you would want to take a shot at big game over 500 yds.
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>>64636574
The key word in all of this is fantasy though anon, it's a fun conversation but based on nonsense really.

>Attacking an enemy who has a superior capacity for procuring resources, manpower, and advanced weaponry, while you're largely stuck with the army you start with and any outdated legacy equipment lying around
How the hell was Russia planning on beating Ukraine again? Pic unrelated.
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>>64620211
Iron Brigade was better
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>>64632967
>the only country in the world to produce 100% of military equipment in-house
Actually I think China does too (if you ignore the handful of Sukhois that aren't Chinese-built). The point still stands though.
The USA is close to being in the club but we are missing a few crucial elements (e.g. we don't make our own TNT anymore)
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>>64632967
>the only country in the world to produce 100% of military equipment in-house
Iran, North Korea, and China beg to differ
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>>64633058
Neither Iran nor NK can make their own fighter jets
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>>64610248

nah

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They are coming for your lead
https://www.npr.org/2025/12/08/nx-s1-5599539/hunters-encouraged-to-trade-lead-bullets-for-copper-to-protect-scavenging-animals
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>>64635593
Yep, and as a practical matter I don't there's any downside in something normal like 308 or 6.5 either. SAAMI COAL only starts to become more limiting as you get into older magnum stuff like 300wm. That's got enough vroom to throw really high bc high precision stuff, but the spec doesn't let you go as long as you might like nowadays without uncomfortably deep seating. So it's become pretty standard to just go out of spec in well experimented with ways, though then you have to stick with that going forward. I think medium term better solution will just be to jump to 300prc, which is basically "how reloaders have altered 300wm anyway, without the belt and a few other misc fine tuning, standardized" and seems to be getting traction ok for a new cartridge so maybe it'll actually succeed.
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>>64634790
>Being able to make your own lead bullets should never be controlled.

Do you also feel you should be able to quarry your own asbestos to insulate your home?
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>>64636342
nta but there is a spectrum of harm/value tradeoffs here dude. Asbestos or running a home PCB plant with waste dumped into a stream behind you is pretty fucking different then making your own lead bullets for an antique. Someone making their own boutique stuff is so damn niche and so specific to them that the balance falls the other way.

By all means regulate some external effects, proper disposal of by products etc, and if you're really concerned could set some really high ceiling to prevent commercial abuse, "maximum 5000 bullets per year and no selling them", but juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze in trying to ban something that individual. Plus I really oppose laws that are effectively unenforceable or only enforceable with a immensely evil panopticon police state.
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We need to get rid of the environiggers
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>>64636667
Go back to india.

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This is a literal combat ship.
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>>64636199
says the guy who tried to get the f35 shutdown
gilmore can eat dick
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>>64636376
There's nothing proving him wrong on this issue unless you have evidence showing they've been upgraded to level 2 standards. To do so requires a totally new hull.
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>>64636407
theres nothing proving his concerns right.
>unless you have evidence showing they've been upgraded to level 2 standards
nice goal post shift.

make a statement your own or eat a dick yourself
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>>64636414
The author was not stating concerns but describing features. What he is doing is describing level one and then compared it to a level two class vessels. So it is not shifting the goalposts, but describing them. Basically you're just low IQ and don't understand what you're saying.

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Did the Ruger bx1 kill tube magazines for 22s?
Also should Ruger make the 96 again or should people just get a Volquartsen?
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>>64634394
>>64634459
>>64634841
I don't have a trigger group with the paddle, my 10/22 is older with an aluminum construction vs the newer plastic ones with the paddle.
I've got the flap you push up.
Maybe it is skill issue, but I can't fucking figure out how you're supposed to "push button, receive mag" correctly.
I can try it a hundred times, and three or four out of a hundred it pops right out.
I have no problems with higher cap mags that protrude, so I just use those most of the time instead.
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>>64635016
Definitely a skill issue
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>>64634579
they made them for a few years, the receivers all eventually cracked, so they had a recall where the owner could send the gun back cracked or not and receive a different ruger of their choice
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>>64634579
>>64636527
If you've got a drill press there's a guy who makes 80% receivers, barrels, and bolts out there so you can roll your own.
No idea if they're any better re:cracking however.
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>>64635016
Press button with strong hand index finger, drop mag into off hand.
If you're trying to do it with one hand on the older trigger housings, you wind up pushing the mag forward onto the front pin with your thumb.

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Is pal verification for used purchases in a private sale pretty quick? All online right? I haven't done any deals since the nu registry...
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>>64636567
yes you just enter in their pal number, date of birth, and email address
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>>64636567
Don't send them your info, they are just gunna scam you
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>>64636602
I'm selling not buying but yeah that is scary
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>>64636613
Giving that kind of info to a "private seller" no thanks

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>>64636225
AFAIK you can only replace your boots in BCT if your feet get fucked up by issued boots and you get a new boot profile from sick call. Regular blisters won't do it, you have to have some kind of huge issue wearing the standard boots, like the heel cup cutting your heels open.
RASP is absolutely worth it as a POG. You will work with some of the best people in the Army in your MOS and will become one of them if you stay there long enough. It's challenging, even if you aren't doing as much stuff as an infantryman, and even if your job primarily takes place in an office. I highly, highly recommend trying for it if you are at all motivated to do so.
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so the air force recruiter hasn't been there the past 3 weeks i've tried

this week i'm gonna try the army recruiter and maybe the other branches.

how bad is the army actually? i can't decide between waiting for the air force or just going army.
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>>64636616
Why aren't you looking at the Navy or Coast Guard as well?
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>>64636616
Depends on what you mean by bad. You might go to the field and get wet and cold in the army but you won't do back to back shifts and hot bunk like in the navy.
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>>64636620
I don't like boats. MAYBE the cg but unlikely.

I finally used gunbroker for the first time this year.

how do they compare to Armslist and Guns America?

Finally got that Norinco SKS that uses AK mags paid about close to $800 with shipping, transfer fee, taxes, and credit card fee.
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>>64635695
Never used Gunsamerica. Every time I tried to use Armslist as a buyer or seller, everyone I talked to was a scammer or a criminal. Gotten a lot of good deals on Gunbroker. /k/ shits on them because they can't just open a window and buy a cheap gun in 60 seconds, but if you watch for deals on what you want you'll find them.
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>>64635695
It's the eBay of guns, just make sure you're dealing with an actual reputable company/person and you should be fine.
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>>64635695
They're a lot like GunsAmerica, just much much bigger. Like the other anon said they're the Ebay of guns. GunsAmerica is the little guy. Anyway, like Ebay actual scams are rare but they are out there. There's a lot of shill bidding. On the flipside there's also people who don't know what they have or are desperate to sell quick and there are deals to be had. If you're into antiques, surp, etc, you'd be a fool not to monitor them constantly.

Guns International is a good resource as well, it's not so good for mainstream stuff but it's great for antiques, surp, especially the higher end stuff.
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>>64635733
Don't have anyone who can receive guns from individuals/shipmygun.
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>>64635695
Haven't used armslist since like 2012 but I impulse buy shit on gb about once a month. They're are some gems that sometimes nobody will bid on. I'll watch stuff and if it has no or low bidders I'll min bid at the last 15 min. I'll look at the bid history to see if someone else really wants it before going to war.
They've always shown up at my ffl a week later, no problems. I only buy from sellers that accept credit cards thru GB.

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Fun fact. The reason pre-1964 winchesters are a thing is because
>Winchester went bankrupt in 1931
>Olin bought Winchester in 1935
>Olin's son (who was probably the one directly responsible for buying Winchester) was the CEO/Head of the board for Winchester from 1935 until he retired in 1963.
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>>64627543
What shade of red is that on OP's pic? I love that stock.
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>>64627543
Why would I want that
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>>64628507
>Also there were millions of surplus mausers to sporterize if you wanted controlled feed for some reason.
Also, Belgian, Czech and Yugo imports.
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>>64632044
thats why i'm getting a cimarron branded uberti 1894, fuck the lever action jew
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>>64631101
idk about (U.S.) recently, my post was primarily referring to the cold war era ones
Miroku also manufactured Browning rifles like the Model 1885 falling block

I've got a serious strategy to beat China in WW3. Let's say we're trying to invade Shanghai: we'll humidify the fuck out of Shanghai's atmosphere with milk particles. Chinese people by-and-large are lactose intolerant, so all the Chinese soldiers will be forced to surrender due to shitting their pants or experiencing a tummy ache; meanwhile, the milk in the atmosphere will enhance the combat capabilities of western soldiers. It doesn't violate the Geneva Conventions because milk is technically not a chemical weapon, and it'd be humane too since it doesn't even cause any permanent injuries. We'll haul over all kinds of equipment and boatloads of milk to achieve it, and we could even "poison" Shanghai's water supply with milk, leaving the Chinese with zero ability to fight. There'd probably be mass desertions too since PLA soldiers would just ditch the trenches to get away from the smell of shit.

I don't know if chemical weapons are within the scope of /k/, but what do you guys think? Should I try and lobby this idea to a think tank?
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>>64633260
I was about to post this one as well. Lactose intolerance is a meme, you can just keep drinking it until the explosive diarrhea subsides, and then you won't be intolerant any more (though you'll need to keep consuming it to maintain lactase production).
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>>64629761
Blame it on muslims and they'll descend into civil war
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My Chink dad drank whole milk till the day he died. The constant diarrhea didn't phase him in the least.
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>>64629536
That’ll just make them fart a lot
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>>64635910
Based

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>Cumrag Pidorovich, is time to assault hohol position
>Here's your armored lada
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>>64635937
>Russian society
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>>64636003
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>>64636003
Sounds like the tests were a massive success
Couldn't have gone any better, really
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>>64632597
All those ak-12 waiting to be cut up to be sold as kits...
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>>64635793

The M551 Sheridan and M60A2 Starship .... would have been the premiere anti-tank hunter-killer armored cav combat team of the Central European battlefield of the 1970s. They would have decimated thousands of T-62s and T-64s with their Shillelagh missiles, and vindicated the hopes placed in them by the Army and NATO
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>>64633855
I just wish we got the MBT-70
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>>64633855
Oldfag paratrooper here. 82nd. Our armor unit was next door at Bragg and we shared a motorpool ground.

Sheridan was a gigantic pile of aluminum shit. Constantly broke down, shit smoothbore maingun and Shilelaghs were so fragile they literally fell apart during off road movements.
And the aluminum hull wouldn't stop anything but small arms. Our tankers hated that piece of shit to a man, riggers hated dealing with them and the LAPES and Heavy drop air crews hated them too.

They stayed home during Desert Storm because they were more trouble than they were worth. Shitty design that looked good on paper and sucked balls in practice.
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>>64635048
MBT-70 was fundamentally unusable due to its design
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>>64635091
It was fundamentally cool as fuck. Anything to the contrary is quitter talk.
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>>64635071
If it's any consolation, they dumped the majority of Sheridans into the ocean.

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how would it change WWII if we adopted a closed bolt colt monitor with a flash hider instead of the garand and BAR?
it's only a few pounds heavier than a garand.
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>>64633298
It would be really fucking cool, because maybe we would have had stockpiles of monitors from the CMP. Then again, maybe the garand would be the hotness.
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>>64633553
The Dreyse Needle gun won many wars for the Prussians before everybody else caught up. Or at least made victory a lot easier.
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>>64633665
>SCHV-schizo being schizo and hyperbolic as usual
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>>64635820
The Prussians still won using outdated needle rifles against the new superior French Chassepot.
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>>64635702
as it stands nobody really cares about the garand, BAR, or monitor.
the only attention they get are from boomers who want to bonnie & clyde larp with the monitor.
cmp wouldn't be a thing because monitors are full auto.


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