Now that the dust has settled, what is the /k/onsensus on the MiG-23?
>>64664229Great plane by all the important metrics>Looks cool>Can go very very fast at treetop level >Cool ̶d̶e̶s̶i̶g̶n̶ personality flaws
>>64664998REAL plane fans learn to appreciate soviet weirdness
>>64665712And a plane that walks the razor's edge of ugly and beautiful in a 1940s comic book design way
>>64664229It's cool and that's all that matters. It's a rocketplane>but muh variable wingsIf middle easterners can maintain them, so can everyone. Anything else is a cope from the corrupt MIC. RIP F-14 you didn't deserve this.
>>64665755>If middle easterners can maintain them, so can everyoneBut they couldn't. Third world MiG23 accident rates were horrendous even by their very low standards.
The Australian federal and state governments are proposing sweeping gun law reform after a mostly peaceful terrorist attack in Bondi.Representative Yasmin Catley reads a draft of the legislation in which she proposes to ban belt fed magazines. What other absurdly dangerous fictional things should be banned?
>>64664562Schools are “gun free zones” just like your defenseless country. Try again, you mong
>1990s total bans on everything that isnt basically a hunting/pest control rifle meets 2000s laissez faire immigration policyIt will never stop. Aussies will wake up not being able to buy spoons one day because Mehmet will sharpen those after they ban knives and forks.
>>64665339Grim!
>>64664490No you don’t. You’re a bunch of prisoners and primitives stuck on a continent sized nation with a population the size of nyc and LA combined. Somehow you still imported the social contagion of Islam. Congrats you played yourself. Imagine patting yourself on the back because you are sheep who lack the resolve to save the lives of your countrymen while they’re being massacred
>>64664525>banning a bandolierI thought knife bans were retarded for trying to ban sharp angles but banning loops of cloth is some real schizo statist shit
It's a Christmas Miracle EditionOld: >>64652394
>>64665674MFW in the 10% of people who only does action bay shooting
>>64665723Bolt catch is good too
>>64665481What? That’s silly. Any actual trigger time is better dryfire drills, though those help too. Especially contact drills with steel
>>64665517I need one of those buttstock sling adapters for an A2 clone. Where’d you get it? Or at least is there a better search term I can use?
>>64665761A2 buttstock sling adapter. BFG and VTAC make one. I think I recall liking the vtac one a little more.
Listen Here You Little Shit EditionPost wood (furniture)Big RiflesBig BulletsFroppy Frens InsideThread theme ~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUtwku8R9Q&list=RD1HUtwku8R9Q&start_radio=1As always; No Jannies, No TranniesPreviously, on X-men: >>64608347
>>64662581The overwhelming majority of guys fighting don't have that luxury. The luckiest have the cash to buy a civilian gun that's not beat to shit from 40 years of service.
>>64655249Ok I went with a gingerbread FAL this year.The gingerbread man dabbing was accidental but I kept it.
>>64663122>gingerbread FAL this yearPoll just in: #1 Christmas treat is gingerbread.
>>64663304Have to make more frosting. Turns out the FAL fits perfectly on the dabbing man and it looks like he's sniping so going to paint it up and sprinkle with yellow and green flakes for a babypoo paint scheme.
>Ian reminding me of a gun I'll never ownOh well, at least its better than him reminding normies about a gun I want that's still somewhat available and not overpriced.
the Russian Army has deployed the use of horses
using horses is a little embarrassing, but it is a 4 year long meatgrinder, plenty of room for varietymuch more embarrassing is the fact that the support of the (former) world hegemon buys you not Victory, but a doomed meatgrinder, hegemon flailing between wunderwaffe threats and "what treaty do we have with Ukraine?" cuckouts
>>64665219I can't imagine myself in a situation like this, where i dragged my feet so much, that I've ended up in a trench war in 2025
>>64665217i've noticed that russian propagandists speak in this specific 3-part form just about everywhere. i see random 4channers and redditors do it too. it goes like>1. paternalistic "uhm achtually" statement with a facade of rationality, usually "setting the record straight" on some embarrassing happening regarding russia, though as of recent it increasingly devolves into whataboutism because there is no explaining the embarrassment of shit like cavalry charges in 2025>"Russia is gaining land and is coming out ahead, a couple of troops dying to drones is not a big deal. Using horses is not as worrying as Ukraine grabbing men off the street (tm) to fight to the last Ukrainian (tm), which isn't a real identity (tm)">2. after these dubious and daring claims, there is a very aggressive interrogation of the listener with time-wasting and irrelevant questions like>"If Russia is not winning, then how is Ukraine getting hit by mallbusters every weekend? Explain.">"If Ukraine was winning, how have they not taken Moscow yet? Tell me that.">this seems to serve 0 purpose except to try to dominate and humiliate the listener>3. affirmation of the original statement, possibly with a more somber and calm tone now that it's been "established" to be truehowever i do not think it is really a common script per se, as much as it is just born from the same cope and need for psychological domination that is common among them. and it's not necessarily all that effective except domestically, where people know not to engage with it because they know it's aggressive posturing. internationally it gets challenged so they just repeat increasingly dubious "corrections" and increasingly time-wasting interrogations like "How is Ukraine going to win??? HUH????" as the facade of speaking in good faith falls off and the argumentation just becomes rote repetition of random propaganda Ws that no one believes or gives a fuck about, or outright claims that Ukrainians aren't even real people
>>64665217>>64665731also idk if this is just a happy coincidence but you see the same approach in the chernobyl miniseries>reactor has been well established to have exploded>even the guys' responsible know full well that shit's fucked, because multiple people told them as much>still try to bully the 1 guy trying to fix it by asking him to "explain" how and why it blew up>"see he can't explain it hahahha"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6lefbvrFV8it's like establishing a favorable power dynamic that makes the truth irrelevant
>>64665667It sucks that european politicians are such raging pussies but ultimately we know in the end Russia can't help itself and will try to invade the baltics, forcing europeans to grow some balls. 80 years of peace has made them grow lazy in corrupt, but all it takes is some primate spazzing out to fix all of that
Canada should just buy the KF-21 its a temu F-22A but at least it has the potential to eventually get to 5th generation
>>64663413canada will certainly go with the tejas because they want to use a domestic jet.
>>64663555Cope chink
>>64663413>KF-21>potential to eventually get to 5th generationLMAO
>>64665047Tired of these chucklefucks making MS paint edits every time a philips head sticks 0.1 micrometer out of the fuselage. The only thing relevant here are the missiles not being concealed inside a bay
>>64665735Sorry but that's not how RCS reducing measures work, despite all the complaining by third world shitholes.
>>64663017The Boomer Cannucks are nothing if not consistent, argumentum ad arrowum. I swear they think that every aircraft in the USAF was supposed to be an interceptor. >>64662489TIGHT TOLERANCES, FOWARD DIRECTED JET EXHAUST, IT'S UNFUCKING RELIABLE, AAAAAAAA!
>>64663077My point is that the concept art is highly flattering compared to what was actually built. I know it would have been refined a lot before production, but still.
>>64662961If you got it, flaunt it.
>>64661728>>64662927I do really like her. It is a very unique looking aircraft, and I love those.
>>64661728slampig dimensions
Are Battleships huge cannons better or worse than Close air support and other kind of artillery for the purpose of supporting infantry?
>>64664970They're dogwater, there's a reason New Jersey only did one stint on the gunline off Vietnam. The cult of personality around the Iowa's and battleships in general belies the mediocrity of their naval gunfire support.
>>64664970Bit of a problem that you need to be within 20 miles of shore, they can only be in one location at a time, resupply is more difficult, and they need a crew of 2000.I'd take 200 A-1 Skyraiders over a battleship any day of the week.
Semi related to this threadWere AShMs a threat in Vietnam? Afaik it was the same time as the Eilat sinking
They will absolutely fuck up any stationary fortified position because those cannons are designed to sink Battleships. Battleships don't really do frag/high explosive that well though.
Better because it sounds cooler screaming in to target
Let's say the US military decided to adopt a bullpup rifle. Do you think they could improve it to a point that it could surpass the AR15 platform? I get the impression that it's just a few innovations away from achieving that status. If they could make the triggers match the AR platform it would be difficult argue that it isn't superior.>inb4 slow reloads, etc.
>>64665215>Absolutely retarded comment the benefits are huge, you get a full sized barrel which massively improves terminal ballistics, which then allows for increased performance or retain the same performance with lighter bullets and lower chamber pressures.Then why is every country that's adopted a bullpup quietly euthanizing them, and why isn't anyone adopting a new bullpup? Why is every single military procurement officer in the entire fucking world a dumb-dumb doo-doo head that fails to see the magnificence of the bullpup, while (you) are an enlightened genius gigachad? Could it be that you are in fact, a fucking noguns retard that fell for bullshit marketing hype and the supposed benefits of the bullpup design aren't actually that beneficial?
>>64662941Have you ever held a 16" AR with a silencer on it? Have you ever done it with a 16" x95? If you have, then you wouldn't be making a comment like that because the x95 is significantly superior.
>>64662967I can reload faster than my friends that have an AR. It turns out that having your bolt release next to your magazine on the x95 is actually way quicker for reloading.
>>64662941Well to be fair the US army is trying to go for a concept that would ideally be better suited with a bullpup, because you can then use lower pressure rounds that can achieve the desired velocity in a longer barrel but overall similar sized or shorter package.
>>64665247Terminal ballistics don't make a difference when you're only shooting paper.Ergo it's easy to see why everyone wants a handly little SBR AR-15
Vietnam was the most kino conflict ever
>>64654079Material wise yes, the soviet that is. The chinks hated the vietnamese and tried to invade them after the vietnamese were done fucking America in the ass. America had and probably still has a problem fighting asymmetrically considering they did the exact same retarded retreat Afghanistan after 20 years mucking about. Better to just keep spending huge amount of money executing Arabs with drones, it makes their greatest ally in the middle east happy and the MIC goes brrrrrr
>>64653867VC beat ARVN in open battle while underequipped and outnumbered more than once>>64652186nearly none of the us troops sent to vietnam actually fought as frontline troops, those who did suffered horrible casualties, statistically you were more likely to get killed or wounded if you fought on the frontline under a US flag than any other outcome >>64661240the bombs had an overall negative effect on the US war effort since they were killing 1000+ civilians every week, it just made them more determined to persevere and gave them a lot of support from the international community. the air campaign was a disaster for the US in terms of getting them closer to achieving their political objectives
>>64662733>azns don't know about Murican's love of trophy taking, blame the injuns we got it from them, and thinks having a souvenir skullcap is supposed to enrage us, assuming its even a a genuine American skull at all since it does look pretty dainty for a white man's skullTurdies honestly don't understand that Americans(only whites can be American) care nothing for "face" and cannot be insulted. We do however have an autistic love of detail and technical accuracy.>>64653926>no SEADing of the air defense network because it could kill Rusky "advisors">dropped a lot of ordinance on empty trails or small convoys, remember its not the boom that counts its how many people it turns to salsa>didn't hit the dikes in North Vietnam which would have first flooded half the country then resulted in a massive famine which would likley have killed tens of millions in a single year or stretched the Rusky/Chink supply lines to breaking assuming they tried to alleviate the famine>did not simply kill every man woman and childYou don't need a total mobilization to exterminate the entire population of Vietnam at the time or even to achieve victory. You just needed to stop fucking around and worrying about what communists think. Be glad you're dealing with WASPs(read:roundheads) and jews, if we ever get loose you're gonna see some serious shit.
>>64664409> getting them closer to achieving their political objectivesWhat's that? Change objective to "kill every thing with a pulse", don't mind if I do. Seriously though insurgencies only work if: 1) the greater power it stretched too thin and won't bring force to bear for political reasons or 2) it refuses to either grind the enemy poplitical opposition into dust or pay them off. Post-war Liberalism if fundamentally at a disadvantage as an occupying force because it refuses to squash all opposition or coopt local notables and existing social structures. The British Administrated Afghanistan just fine because they did both, the USSR failed because it did the former but its imposed system was so alien and unpalatable to the population it couldn't muster the force to impose it without exterminating them, the US never even bothered to try either and just splatted hadjis for two decades.
>>64663835>the South Veitnamese actually hold, defeating the NVA in multiple battlesDon't read Lam Son 719 anon.Don't read it.
Could plastic garbage from the ocean be used for 3D printers for printing guns like FGC-9?
> 3D printers for printing gunsbruh it's nearly 2026people printing death drones, guided missiles, unguided mortars, and anti personnel mines, not antiques.lel
Lets take all that plastic, melt it down into compressed cubes, shoot it into the sun or a black hole. Once the plastic is out of sight, we need not pay it any mind.
>>64624726Most plastic degrades under UV light, with some exceptions like ASA. Also, some plastic like PLA is chemically rather fragile. Essentially, all plastic organic polymers are either vulnerable to UV light, high temperatures or chemically not very inert. There are some exception which are great at specific areas like PTFE (Teflon)/ PFA for unmatched chemical resistance but they are vulnerable to UV light. Then there is of course PEEK, a high performance polymer which does kind of have all the great properties you would love, but it's also supremely expensive.
>>64628346why do we wrap everything in plastic instead of using (waxed) paper anyway?
>>64660246
/k/'s beloved actor James Ransone, known for his interpretation of Cpl. Josh Ray Person in board's favorite series Generation Kill, dies by suicide at age 46
>Another actor who likely got raped by a small hat producer when he was young dies of suicideI hate the hollywood pedos so much bros
>>64663210Why do so many officers in the US military fuck kids?
>>64663205Iceman is still fine as well as the actor as far as I know
>>64665633Presumably because they wanted to film some nice tits.
>>64663930>Hope hes at peace from his demonsRead the OP, it was suicide. He chose the hardest route possible.
What the fuck is going on, they filmed everything, one SU-27 and one SU-30, 100 million in damages, did russia lost that many soldiers that they can't even muster a few guys to secure their air bases? Anyway, what's going on these past few days, they're getting a lot of shit destroyed, mig 31, S-400, bunch of fighters and even a fucking submarine
>>64665000Didn't Germany done that when they were losing war?
>>64665114Can we say he was killed in action?
>>64665000>are we expecting sabotage at Russian Strategic Missile Forces Facilities?No, but that's a great idea.
>>64664835>>64665066They were burned on land you faggots.
>>64665630The Luftwaffe ran out of viable aircraft and fuel before they started doing that. This would be like seeing Stukas sitting in the airfields of Eastern Europe getting firebombed by Partisans because the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine got sent into an infantry assault wave since the Wehrmacht has been depleted completely.
A big majority of canadians now support purchasing new Gripen fighter jets over the F-35. At the same time, the canadian government is looking over cancelling the rest of the F-35 on order whilst considering buying swedish instead. Will this be the first big loss of locksneed martin? How will the americans cope when their own neighbor don't want their overhyped fighter?https://spencerfernando.com/2025/12/18/poll-canadians-support-future-purchases-of-gripens-over-f-35s-by-30-point-margin/
>>64656791Is Saab license-producing the F414 in-country like they did with the F404, or are they importing them from the States?
>>64665640And European and whatever dying languages in general but yeah
>>64665640Its heartbreaking to actually go interact with native american communities and realize just how much of their culture they have lost. I grew up around the Seminoles and its crazy how much they don't know about their past (half of what they do know is due to europeans writing it down and them rediscovering it in a book somewhere) and probably never will. And to think that's one of the tribes that faired "the best."
>>64665640>>64665645The haka gets overused, though.
>canada is so cucked that thread about them has turned into a discussion of New Zealand
Could the MiG-25 realistically have shot down a SR-71?
>>64665310No it's true, the speed of sound at sea level with 20C air temp and the speed of sound at the altitude of mount everest, also with 20C air temp, and your speed is almost identical.The reason the anon said there are minor differences is because the air in the atmosphere isn't an ideal gas and humidity can slightly impact things.
>>64662714Yes, but you would need retardation from the US side. If the US started flying it deep into soviet airspace with known SAM threats then you could easily just vector interceptors to the precalculated intercept point, fly as fast and as high as the migger could and loft a missile at it, which if done properly would easily down the SR-71. But as it is obvious, the US was never dumb enough to fly the SR-71 deep into enemy airspace withou course changes or for that long.
>>64665336>the air in the atmosphere isn't an ideal gasThere's no way I'll find a source for this but I remember NASA forgot this and had to update some of the control laws for the Shuttle's body flap after STS-1
Its never going to shoot down an SR-71 that is aware its been spotted and seeing that the whole combat doctrine of the plane was to know when you're spotted and boost out of there it would have to be a very lucky circumstance.
>>64665310The equation for the speed of sound isa = sqrt(γ*R*T)Where γ is the specific heat ratio, R is the specific ideal gas constant, and T is the temperature.Altitude and pressure can only indirectly affect the first 2 terms via composition (typically humidity, but the ozone layer has a slight effect as well in the case of the SR-71).
