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I call it .22 loooong rifle
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Egg cartridge.
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>>64641292
Nobody has a peehole that long.
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>>64641292
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>>64641671
heheh
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>>64641671
1” rifled length.

>sniiiiifffffffffff
ROLLER DELAYED BLOWFORWARD BELT FED 12 GAUGE
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>>64635653
>sniffffffffffffffffff
BLISH LOCK, MAG FED 7.62X51MM RECREATION OF THE M1919A6 BUT WITH AN ALL POLYMER RECIEVER AND INTEGRATED ANTI AIRCRAFT SIGHTS FOR HUNTING ELK
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12 gage styled as a comically large revolver, with nigant style sealing system so you don't have gas escaping the cylinder gap and can support the barrel.
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>>64639786
Would actually be a good candidate for Precision Grenadier program. You're not firing a nade launcher fast enough to NEED semi-auto action anyway.

>>64641442
MTs-255-12 could be modified to nagant-seal, I guess. Would fix a huge problem with the original, but the double action trigger pull would be atrocious.
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6 shot bear defense gun in .44 magnum. But it’s a break action pepper box style 2 wide 3 tall. Each trigger pull sequentially shoots another cartridge. A second trigger that requires a full hand squeeze like a staple gun unleashes a “POWER SHOT” unloading the whole payload at once. Just break open, jam some bullets in, repeat.
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What's going on here?

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I recently saw a video which made me impressed by the advantages of a straight pull rifle. Who makes them besides blazer? Andy doesn’t everyone make them? In the past you could more reasonably argue that turn bolt are more precise but I’m not sure that holds anymore? Also manually operation rifle thread I guess
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>>64641618
The number of straight pull .22s is astounding. From biathlon rifles to plinkers, it would easily double the list.
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>>64641651
I thought there would only be like 4 sporting straight pull 22s.
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>>64641827
Hammerli B1
Volquartsen Summit
Anschutz 1827
Anschutz 1727
Browning T-Bolt
CZ/Brno Zom 451
Steyr Scout RFR
Beretta Olympic
Savage A22
ISSC SPA
Baikal/Izhmash Bi-7

I know there are a ton more, I just can’t remember em.
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>>64640769
>Andy doesn’t everyone make them?
The "problem" with straight pull rifles is that there's no reason not to add a gas piston and turn it into a semi automatic rifle, so most designers just do that.
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>>64641851
PWS T3 is a toggle lock straight pull 22lr, a bit different.

You also have some unique Australian straight pull rifles, more tactical style rifles.

Warwick Firearms WFA1
Oceania Precision SP15

Realistically speaking what are the mechs even contributing to this military force that you couldn't get by just swapping out the APCs for IFVs instead?
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>>64641685
This wasn't a formation, this was a mercenary group expected to take planets.
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>>64613101
>Realistically speaking what are the mechs even contributing to this military force that you couldn't get by just swapping out the APCs for IFVs instead?
Realistically speaking mechs are a crowd control unit in urban areas. There is a reason the riot police still use horses.
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>>64641905
Mechs make more sense because legs can deal with more terrain than wheels. Yes this includes your faggot anecdote about some obscure example from insert your gay obsession. Legs are objectively better, we are simply limited at recreating good working legs like our own, with technology. Once the tech catches up to our dreams warfare will be fought by infantry just piloting mechs.
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>>64641689
tomato tomato

>>64641905
>There is a reason the riot police still use horses
they are intimidating and less lethal than running over some bastard with a SWAT armoured car, which is what Mechs would do if you charged a Locust into a crowd of rioters
the best riot vehicle even in BT is still a firetruck with watercannon, teargas and rubber ammo
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>>64641928
Mech with dual water cannons, tear gas launching phase array backpack, rubber ammo dispenser (machine gun) wrist mounted. EZ faggot, where is my job General Dynamics?

I see a lot of load out threads, but not many 'worst case best case' ones
Say your country had a serious break down of law and order, society hasn't quite collaped yet, things might get better, but in the meantime things are pretty lawless and if you had to defend yourself the police won't be asking any questions afterwards.
What's the minimum level of weaponry you'd accept in order to defend yourself, family and property?

What's a mid tier, and what's the best possible case?
Keeping in with what you could realistically own prior to the current unrest.
I'm in the UK so worst case
>I have a double barrel shotgun and some bird shot, still more than a lot of people would have
>mid tier I have a decent pump/semi auto shotgun with buck shot or slugs, or a .22 semi auto or both
>I have a bolt action rifle in a powerful caliber with enough ammo, plus some sort of cap and ball revolver/ semi auto .22 or shotgun. The main thing being I can shoot both at range and close quarters effectively
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>>64640479
t. 77 brigade
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>>64637596
Fuck off back to Rotherham
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>>64636523
The native population is being displaced.
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>>64641199
Except the great replacement theory is right wing conspiracy slop and immigrants just want to work and make money and live a normal life. If you pidors were smart you would make it about something else snd not /pol/ conspiracy theories
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>>64637386
Being against mass Islamic immigration is hardly a "far-right" concept.

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Kinda decent video about the Gettysburg F/A-18 shootdown incident, going over the interesting bits of the report they released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkyplZNHmzQ

Here's the report:

https://www.secnav.navy.mil/foia/readingroom/HotTopics/HST%20Investigation/Redacted_Full%20CI%20Friendly%20Fire%20HSTCSG%20(2)_Redacted.pdf
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>>64641382

"The Navy explicitly ruled out problems with any of the ship’s radars."

They do this so they can blame the crew and hide the fact that they send out half broken ships on patrols. The radar on the Fitzgerald was working in the same sense that a gear box that is stuck on gear #3 is working. It works but cannot perform its task.
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>>64639838
Of course! How else do you think they countered Confederate armor?
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>>64639829
Thats my standard watch keeping routine at sea and is sustainable indefinitely once you get into the swing of it. Having looked through the report I think there were more significant failures than fatigue.
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>>64641402
>It's tradition

Wait until the Navy finds out about Rhoombas
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>>64641838
>It works for me, so it has to work for everybody else as well...
Every medical study on that topic states that there are obvious negative effects of sleep deprivation (this includes sleeping in multiple batches), with effects similar to intoxication - but yeah, I can drive my car drunk most of the time just fine.

This looks like fun.
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>>64627322
Get steel from where? They have been blockaded from anything valuable for over 30 years.
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>>64628298
The foundation will also be mimecraft blocks.
Once it sinks 2 meters you just fill in the windows and build amother layer.
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>>64629005
>>64629069
30%+ of Israeli's are from Russia. There is a reason they share similar ideological tenants.
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>>64630683
They also took land in syria, forced civilians from the border in lebanon (creating a buffer that they effectively control), and have shortened their borders with gaza and egypt, while simultaneously surrounding gaza in totality.
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>>64627079
israel is abominable and deserves only sanction, embargo and UN occupation much less our support and this mindless suicide-pact like worthless, value-less anti-human alliance with these ghoudl
And fuck the rsf mudslimes in Sudan and the UAE pigs as well
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session60/advance-version/a-hrc-60-crp-3.pdf
caramelize the enchilada

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It's time to buy a gun in a big boy caliber. I plan on hunting with it, so weight and length is a concern. 500 yards and in, deer sized game. Thinking 6.5 creedmoor or .308, maybe in a 16" or 18" barrel since I like using a can. Thoughts? I like the springfield waypoint, but the barrel seems a bit long. Sig cross is tempting as well, even though I hate Sig with a passion. It has to shoot very tiny groups (sub .75 moa preferred) because im an accuracy douche, weigh less than 9 lbs, and preferably cost under 2500. Willing to go higher if its not super diminishing returns. Buy a factory gun or build one?
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>>64641490
Really? AR10, or .338mag? That’s your advice in this thread?

Put the computer down, find the nearest bully in your neighborhood and ask him to kick your ass on principle. Dimwit.
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>>64640857
First of all, you sound like an insufferable cunt.

Second, you're looking at a trade-off no matter what. Either you choose a standard action and have a rifle that's relatively cheap and pleasant to shoot but has terminal ballistics limiting your ethical range to ~400 yards or you choose a big-dick belted magnum and have a rifle that's expensive and unpleasant to shoot but that can lay out whatever you shoot at 600 yards without breaking a sweat. As someone who actually lives and hunts out west, I'd also add that if you can't get close enough to ANYTHING to cleanly drop it with .308/.30-06/.270/etc. then that's on (you) and for any hunting situation you're likely to encounter you could easily set yourself up with a off-the-rack rifle and good enuf glass to learn on and hunt with for less than a grand.

If you REALLY want to try push for that level of accuracy, especially at <9lb and with your budget, your best option is going to be either a lightweight chassis plus a barreled action or a Kimber Ascent and those are both going to be somewhere around ~$1900+ OTD which means that adding decent glass is going to blow your budget. And even then the Kimber is only guaranteed sub-MOA and there are no guarantees at all for a chassis so if you can't get your rifle to group better than 0.9 or 0.85 for love or money then you're just going to have to deal with it.

Third, you're still not going to get what you want from one rifle without either hand-loading or playing the lotto with factory ammo so if you're not doing that already you'd be better off directing your investment there and trying to dial in a rifle you already own - assuming that you own anything legal to hunt with. Yeah you could get lucky and your rifle could drive tacks to your satisfaction with white box, but five will get you ten that reaching the kind of accuracy you want will necessitate hand-loading.
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>>64641437
Thanks. I was concerned about barrel life with the 6.5. Im guessing .308 is probably a tad cheaper as well.
>>64641490
I have thought about the scout. I'll give it another look. 8.6 is cool, but it's out because of ammo price and longer range performance (has the energy, but waaaay too much drop I think).
>>64641768
>you sound like a cunt
Eh, fair. Ive been called worse.
Wasn't including the glass in the price tag. And I know it's a compromise build - almost all of my guns are. I'd probably play the factory ammo lotto with it, since I dont have the space to reload. If that fails, I have friends with equipment and can use their gear to fine tune something.
Unfamiliar with the ascent, thanks for the tip.
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>>64640994
Didn't he join that chud rancher uprising few years back?
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>>64641553
Yup. That’s my advice. ar10s are excellent guns and 338 federal is an excellent albeit rare chambering. Cry about it

I've got a serious strategy to beat China in WW3. Let's say we're trying to invade Shanghai: we'll humidify the fuck out of Shanghai's atmosphere with milk particles. Chinese people by-and-large are lactose intolerant, so all the Chinese soldiers will be forced to surrender due to shitting their pants or experiencing a tummy ache; meanwhile, the milk in the atmosphere will enhance the combat capabilities of western soldiers. It doesn't violate the Geneva Conventions because milk is technically not a chemical weapon, and it'd be humane too since it doesn't even cause any permanent injuries. We'll haul over all kinds of equipment and boatloads of milk to achieve it, and we could even "poison" Shanghai's water supply with milk, leaving the Chinese with zero ability to fight. There'd probably be mass desertions too since PLA soldiers would just ditch the trenches to get away from the smell of shit.

I don't know if chemical weapons are within the scope of /k/, but what do you guys think? Should I try and lobby this idea to a think tank?
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>>64633260
God I wanna fuck the sperg out of her
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>>64637293
Everything
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>>64629873
Yes, they are
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>>64629617
I feel like giving your enemy laxatives won't be viewed nearly as negatively as gassing them anon.
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>>64639995
Me too desu idek why

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How are you supposed to defend your tanks from this?
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>>64635143
Its not lasers retarded asshole its micro rays it only shorts out certain components
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>>64635042
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shoot it with bullets
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>>64641179
stay losing my brown friend, don't start fights you can't win
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>>64641283
Since jews have a hard time understand things that arent retorical attempt at bypassing law ill explain.
Hamas(armed by Netanyahu) was purposely let in by the IDF that did jack shit by letting them in, then they let them roam a bit and kill low ranking jews for a casus belli, then you activated the Hannibal directive to kill even your own because you re bloodthirsthy, after that you started slowly bleeding out palestinian (who yes are violent but like Zoo animals you went inside their zoo and started beating them).
Hope this helps
>>64641914
O, its the mr jew that said look at this pair ov shoes Oy gevalt.
Citing voltaire
"You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables, in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny."
It is a metapysical law for your lot too suffer.
Nothing you can do about it, in the end you will always lose.
Your state, your diaspora, et cetera will all be gonne

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>duuude gun laws are pointless because everyone with 4k worth of tools and 2 weeks of free-time can build his very own SMG (that has an effective range of 10 yards)
ok but where are you going to get the ammo?
sure, smuggling 10 rounds across the border is easier than smuggling a weapon but for a proper "protect the rights of the people"-situation you need hundreds if not thousands of rounds per gun

seems like it would make more sense to build DIY long range rifles instead of SMGs / Pistols so you can get the most out of each round
yes, you can make your own ammo with blanks and slugs but that stuff can be banned too and then its back to square 1
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>>64641561
no
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>>64635103
>cross reference large quantity ammo buys with anons facebook butt budies
And they're done.
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>>64630101
No stupid
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>>64637642
I'd really like to see you make an ammo casing and a primer cup from scratch
I'm not joking, I'm serious
please go ahead and try
>>64637658
he's still using the brass hard to machine part of the 12ga shell
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>>64641919
The cup can be made by wrapping aluminum foil around the end of a match stick. The anvil is the hard part.

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How effective were these things? Obsidian is said to be extremely sharp and multiple edges instead of one straight blade might be extremely painful.
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>>64634753
>Natural Canvas Background
kek
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>>64634900
>If we look to Diaz el Castillo's account of his time as one of Cortez' men we find that he mentions both Aztecs making use of captured European swords, and the conquistadors making use of local armour (most having none from back home), but nothing about conquistadors making use of local weapons

I seem to recall him mentioning a horse getting it's head cut off at one point, perhaps by a Tlaxcalan
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>>64634465
I saw a video about these recently.
The gap between the obsidian pieces is supposed to be a lot smaller its a sword not a sharp club
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>>64641826
The guy talked how these things could kill horses very effectively.
It didnt stand a chance against steel armor.
Obsidian being a prittle as it is
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>>64638022
>If you're limited to stone-age technology then it's about as close to perfect as you can get.
Most of their technology was on a bronze age level. Except for metallurgy, but even that was a matter of time, considering that the Inca had developed bronze.
And I wouldn't discount spears and bows. Or maces.

Do attack helicopters still have a place on the modern battlefield?
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>>64641835
The Chinese are state capitalists, and you can't even define Communism because you can't read so you couldn't have read the basic required literature to get a proper understanding
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>>64637921
What if we had a helicopter with 200 people strapped to it to stop drone attacks?
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>>64637939
nascar has got to be the most retarded racing sport, too
as befits americans
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>>64637943
I don't know why loiter drones haven't replaced warthogs yet
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>>64641890
were you even alive during obama?

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Mmk so IRR defeats infrared and air gaps defeat thermal? Is that the takeaway from the last couple years of conflict?
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None of that is fresh insight unless youre 12 years old or a retarded thirdie.
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Drones are defeated by having a friend 10 meters away to get droned instead of you.
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>>64641206
The main takeaway from the last few years of conflict is that you really shouldn't try to "liberate" people who fucking hate you.
We all learn that the hard way I guess, but it is quite funny seeing it happen to somebody else for once.

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>Delta operators all just shoot USPSA
>Seal Team 6 guys all do jujitsu
>guy with an immunology degree who dropped out of medical school to serve in the USAF as a non-deployable POG makes videos every week wearing different larp costumes as he shills PSA garbage and makes videos on 'how to be deadly in [x] environment'
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>>64610905
>complains about "posers"
>has literally no actual combat training or experience aside from plinking stationary targets and running "drills"
>immediately deflects to "muh zogbots" when called out
despite being "zogbots" they have actual training or combat experience. usually both. there's nothing wrong with liking guns but don't delude yourself into thinking you're on the same level as trained zogbots. again, you're just some dude who plinks at stationary targets. you have no say in the matter no matter how many gun models and bullet characteristics you memorize.
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>>64641844
eh you never know what's inside someone until the fighting starts you have line cooks performing at close quarter commandos in ukraine and such
not saying that dude is a hard ass, but again a bit of training and people can surprise you

some zogbots are legit, some are cowards
makes me think of that quote about combat with only 10% of the dudes actually knowing what to do and doing it while 50% of the soldiers are just bodies
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>>64641883
yes that's true but some random fatass /k/ommando who's only actual "combat training" is shooting at paper targets at a range and memorizing gun manuals scoffing at "larpers" who had at least real experience, training, or deployments is hilarious.
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If I was a guntuber I would be a lot more worried about Jeettube trying to ban or deplatform me than about whether or not I shot sandniggers for Israel
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>>64601400
>guntube

>poser problem

What problem? That's the entire business model.


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