what classic weapons could be brought back to modern warfare given modern materials/manufacturing/tech?
>>64744265> given modern materials/manufacturing/tech?definitionally, doesn't this exclude historical weapons? if you have new technology why would you use it to reinvent the old anyway, i do think using slings to launch hand grenades would be extremely cool and masculine
>>64744265Wood needed.
So this is Trump's wall? Impressive.
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>>64745357>I have contributed more to this country than you likely ever will. You have no children, no home, no wifeWrong on all accounts. I bet you didn’t server either.
>>64745433*serveFUCKING AUTOCORRECT REEE
>>64745433Oh I server alright. serve 'er semen jizz
>>64745435Oh I serve alright. Serve cunt at the motherclit or somethingCervix
>>64745425Sounds like every protester in Minneapolis right now.
Post gear. Discuss gear. Chico's got an M1 Garand in the Streetz Edition. Level IV required.Old: >>64713312
>>64744578Incredibly informative, thank you. The esapis I traded were only 3 years younger so both were old dogs, they both pass tap and torque no, x-ray available. I wear them over balcs panels as well
>>64742870>we're already in the specialty territory that caliber is made for.True as well. On that note, it would be even more interesting to see if there's any development in 9*39 or 12.7*55 AP ammo, but that's classified to the gills and we probably won't know for the next 20 years unless someone very high-speed royally fucks up. Low-velocity ultra-heavy penetrators are a captivating engineering challenge. Maybe I should've listened to my dad and went to military college with a firearms development program...>>64743574>Some of the old SARVIP plates are rumored to be similar, but might need a standoffNew Br5+ Granits were tested against 12.7*108 B-32 at simulated standoff of ~800m, IIRC. The plate was rekt, BFD was borderline unsurvivable, but the overall result for ICW solution was "no pen". And that's a GI plate mass produced out of (probably doped) alumina+PE. Stopping .50 shots with body armor hinges more on energy distribution and BFD mitigation rather than exotic strike face solutions needed to stop exotic high-velocity penetrators.>>64743638>against a REV. A ESAPI, what penetrates better?At this point, when you're putting the entire energy of a .50 projectile into the target the size of SAPI plate, no-pen can be about as bad as partial penetration. There's a reason anti-materiel weapons are a class of their own.>Russia actually has 3-shot 12.7x108 B-32 API @ 50m standardized as BR6, but no plates!The GOST in question covers both body armor and civilian-grade armored cars, and Br6 is about the upper limit of what you can put on a commercial SUV chassis without it folding like a lawn chair. 3 hits of AP-incendiary PER BODY PANEL out of 1m barrel at point blank is a pretty high bar to clear even if you're hanging it on a twin-turbo G-Wagen or an LC200. Here's an illustration of an average mil-spec vehicle armored to Br6: VPK-Ural, mostly used by Russian SOF and formerly Wagner. That's basically just a MRAP.
>>64744486That looks collectible as fuck.>>64744578>$1,570 a plate in 2013. Adjusted for inflation, that's $4,370 a setAnd here I thought our inflation was bad...
>>64745064Definitely collectible as a high end Ceradyne. As for others, the MH3 CQBs would be over $5k a set. 96034s about $4,892 a set (and that's what Delta paid for them in a bulk ~<160 plate order, not civ price because those were never sold to civs). Ceradyne's best plates got really expensive back in the day. They were one of the few ceramic plate manufacturers that made their own strike faces from scratch, not like Hesco / Highcom / LTC / RMA, who just get their ceramics from Bitossi or Coors or St. Gobain. This meant Ceradynes had a performance edge because they could dope and add additives to their ceramics freely. Now that they're defunct, some of their stuff like boron-enriched boron carbide is essentially lost technology.
>>64744639Glad to help, those are some nice plates. Make sure to run IIIA soft armor behind them. Also maybe foam pads, but in front of the plates to make up for lost drop protection. I would double down on having them x-rayed. I'm sure there's a lab nearby.>>64745062>12.7x55 and 9x39I remember there was an STS-120UPU, a 1,219gr tungsten penetrator which tried to replace 12.7x55 VPS, at some point. There was also an ammo collectors' website that said Russians with OSV-96s and other 12.7x108 guns were reloading both 1,179 grain VPS and UPU into 12.7x108 as a supersonic, extremely armor-blind penetrator. They would be absolutely brutal vs ceramics if pushed to the 700m/s range. Similar to the 12.7x108 loads from Winchester-Olin sent to the Mujahadeen to punch through Hinds.>BR5+If it's true the new Granits are only doped Alumina, maybe ZTA, then get the mfg in contact with Shandong Yasai in China immediately, upgrade to TiB2-SiC. You'd save pounds.>.50 cal BABTThat's the one area where, per the L. Cannon paper, behind armor blunt trauma can be extremely serious. .50 cal plates need to be massively built up. Part of the reason why they aren't a regular thing is that they need to be about 1.5" thick or more, which won't fit in many normal PCs.>BR6Yep, it's like VPAM. Thing is though, both Atlas and I think FORT advertised BR6 plates at one point. The Atlas was a piece of shit, not sure about the FORT, and I'm not talking ACP-G or ACP-M.
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>>64740725>1.85 Million layoffs since Oct 2025.Military is a lot of things but it does pay.
>>64743925>watch Professor Messers seriesI took A+ 4 years ago for a job I never got and the advice was the exact same.
Shall be PCS to JBLM in a few months.Recs?
>>64744110Tell us more about your military service and provide some tangible evidence that you served.
>>64745401>a neverserved trying to call out stolen valor
Does he deserve his shit reputation for the Battles of the Isonzo? After all what else could he realistically have done? He had a very narrow mountainous front with no room for any sweeping manoeuvres or flanking. And he won most of the battles.
>>64741338Yes, he was genuinely a terrible general and it's telling that when he was replaced, his replacement immediately defeated the Austrians.
>>64742153Courting death. Don't blame this general for being ruthless.
>>64741346>Hold that front with minimal manpowerImpossible without getting entirely sweeped by the austro-hungarian army
Genuinely terrible nepo baby that was well aware aware of the limits of the italian army yet pressed forward with retard outdated tactics and almost lost the warHis replacement was everything that he wasn't: charismatic, caring of its soldier, open to suggestions by low ranking soldiers and open to change of tactics, and so in the span of one year he rebuilt an army from scratch and won the war
>>64741509>ArmandoJust FIY Armando is the first name, like Luigi in Luigi Cadorna. Diaz is the last name.
how do you defend yourself from homemade flame throwers and other rudimentary incendiaries?
>>64745214There's also the fact that Khomeini is simply the tip of the iceberg. There's an entire multi-layered regime with lots of power structures involved. Unlike 1979 removing the top dog won't change anything. The entire system needs to fall.
>>64745221Yes. Iran government structure is somewhat like Papal state. They have Pope (Khomeini), Cardinal and Bishop that support him. Who also was supported by Conservative and rural peoples. Because if you don't support them you are going to hell btw.
>>64744044Hello Ian, how's Canada?
>>64741707gun
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>*shits up gun culture forever*
>>64745288>Not to mention how overtuned all the armor is to the point the shittiest plates and helmets can somehow tank mag dumps unless you run sabotted DUAP rounds in every mag.Got to love how that was due to streamers with their best gear losing to naked hobos with Mosins.
>>64745313>>64745288basically the same thing that would happen in real life in this settingthe gear queers that post their knights armament on instagram, but never shoot it , would get clapped by /k/ommandos with mosins.
>>64745265>us faggots can't help themselves as to fap to degenerate "russia stronk" shit, even when it's fake
>>64745231>average /pol/ poster
>>64745265>goes to prison>becomes a bisexual roided out shut-in pothead sad desuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdSAXn4-mbkhttps://youtu.be/7bpXLTOicM0?si=FCFQIJ52mYDwwdFU&t=125
How effective were these things? Obsidian is said to be extremely sharp and multiple edges instead of one straight blade might be extremely painful.
>>64634465with all that weight, you could use butter knives for teeth and be very lethal
>>64744319you first, clown. there's a reason this planting method was dropped in favor of animal agriculture the moment Europeans arrived and showed how it's done.
>>64644972The Incas managed it, but like hell are they sharing.
>>64742362the retardedly huge helmet fan, probably
>>64745076>you first, clown.>Götz, Christopher M., and Kitty F. Emery, eds. The Archaeology of Mesoamerican Animals. Lockwood Press, 2013. https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctvvnd8m.tl;dr: They had domesticated peccaries, turkeys, and dogs which they all ate, as well as various kinds of wild-game, mostly white-tailed deer.
can you even call yourself a /k/ommando?
>>64743117UMP unironically fixed all those issues, but >doesn't feel as nice to shoot trumped everything else.
>>64742760>>64742951how uncomfortable are those telescoping stocks and chin weld optics?
>>64744992Chin weld is actually really comfy on the mp5 because theres almost no recoil.
>>64745242Super safe MP5K rips so fucking hard. Pretty sure it has a faster rate of fire than a FA.
Scopes and reddots are for boomers with glaucoma.
Why do you think so?
>>64745210Aperture sights are for women and homosexuals.
>>64745237I put picrel on my 1911 which is similar to that rear sight, and somehow I can get a sense of the aim alignment much quicker (as I'm bringing the gun up to my eye level). I tried a red dot on another handgun but this setup is actually better for me personally.
>>64745210>reddotsare not accuracy and have batteries and are worthless unlessits an IR dot for NV which is the ONLY reason militaries use then>>64745210>Scopesscopes and irons are accuracy woithout batteries
>>64745237>he doesn't know how to use aperture sightsoh nononono
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>>647424575000 would be a reasonable price in this economy. PP can undo the gun bans right away but he cant undo the economy so quick
>>64743194What's a good workout? I don't like going to the gym and I live in an apartment in the city.
should i buy it??? it's only 300 and i don't care about actually being able to fire it, it's just cool as fuck.
>>64744763run/jog/walk+jog around the block/your house/400m 2 laps at your own pace2 planks for 1 minute 30 second rest50 pushups100 situps50 curls with moderate weight 10-20 pounds depends on you100 squats100 orbits with a medicine ball or weight plate2 planks for 1 minute 30 second restrun around the block 2 laps there you go
>thread about the CAR>somehow off-topic'ox, 'ape, and 'ill all jannies
The dragon is the size of the ones in GOT, use GOT as the point of reference for most everything to be honest. If you want to be a furry abut this you can do a version where the dragon(s) are smart cookies that can talk and junk.
>>64727248GoT isn't even consistent with its dragons. Pick a better franchise.
>>64740980>Historical armor constantly gained weight the more firearms got introducedthis is true, see 16th century German plate armour suits>steel breastplate with a thickness around 2-3mm that is proof against arrows at point blank rangearrows could still cut through that thickness of armour, if the plate was flatwhat the last plate armour suit designers of history grasped empirically but didn't quite understand was that the curved bulbous shapes in which they made their armour meant that both arrows and bullets went through a greater thickness of armour, for the same reason that tanks have sloped armour. they thought that the projectiles were skipping off the curvesultimately however,>muskets do deliver 10-20 times the force then the best crossbownomuskets can't penetrate 10mm let alone 20mm of steel plate>>64744703>Arrows achieve literally nothing against full grown dragons, not even scratching them. Their hides would be several inches thickanon, please bear in mind you're talking about a fictional animalhow is anyone supposed to know this?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64745136For a real world comparison crocodiles' hides eventually become thick enough arrows can't do squat against anything short of a lucky shot to the eye. Dragons having similarly tough skin to support their weight seems hardly unreasonable.
>>64745156preciselyyet nobody is saying that crocodile hide is bulletproof or that it is several inches thickit is an unwarranted leap of logic to assume so for dragons as much as it is for crocodiles
>>64745136> 2-3mm>arrows could still cut through that thickness of armour, if the plate was flatIm not so sure about that, even lower quality steel at that thickness should be pretty hard to pierce, in the arrow vs armor test 3 where they shoot at a brigadine using 1.2mm mild steel plates with one side being hardened. The arrows they are using have bladed hard steel tips and they dont show that impressive performance. Only two arrows showed undeniable killing power, one launched at 40 meters hitting the neck plate that was about 1.5mm thick and the other at 20 meters hitting the eye slit ignoring the helmet armor. Every other arrow did not have the same clear killing power when striking the brigandine or arm protectionhttps://youtu.be/SFFgcTzCvMo?t=446They also did test against just flat 1.5mm mild steel plate and the penetration depth was not as dramatic as the textile or chainmail armorhttps://youtu.be/UBbVWqA45fI?t=962>arrow vs 1.5mm mild steel penetration depth 7cm-2.3cm>arrow vs chainmail penetration depth 25-24cm>arrow vs fabric armor penetration depth 25-17.5Pic related from ARROWS vs ARMOUR 2 - Best metal for armour video all the test plates are 1.5mm thickBut back to dragons.https://youtu.be/xXfEsEYeTKc?t=870>Season 5 of games of thrones dragons have grown quite alot and are large enough to be ridden but are still vulnerable to hand thrown spearsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Have drones permenantly destroyed the masculine allure of being a warrior in war?You could be a 6'5 250lb Aryan superman and some estrogen injecting tranny a 1000 miles away suddenly kills you by operating a joystick and looking at a TV screen while on a reclined chair. It's not glamorous or masculine anymore.
>>64744966Maybe it's possible to have a nuanced take on war?Sometimes war is necessary and you need to fight, in which case fighting for your people is noble and manly. Even if you're nothing but a soldier of fortune, you going into actual combat in spite of being motivated by money is still you putting your life and body on the line for someone else's sake.Men like Mad Mike Hoare, one of the greatest mercenaries of all time, simply enjoyed the soldiering and the fighting. He tried to go back to peaceful life after WW2 but he just could not STAND being an accountant, he missed the action and the soldierly camaraderie.So he travels the world a bunch, including bicycling through all of fucking Africa, twice, and finally starts a mercenary company which will play a big role in the wars in the Congo.Mike was a man's fucking man, he loved to fight and he killed a lot of communists.However, bawling about how yet another weapon makes war "less manly" is an extremely unmanly and pathetic display, and one which completely lacks any perspective on the history of warfare and weapons. Like >>64744959 says, drones are just another new weapon and you still need Hard Cunts walking and fighting on the ground to actually get the warfare done.
>>64745077Deluded.>>64745095>I don't think they'll take over every facet of war like dronefags suggest.There's no chance that they will because drones can be countered, and drones can't capture objectives. Boots on the ground are simply vital for fighting and capturing.
>>64745239Why do you think Putin only started fucking with Ukraine after they started developing their gas fields? Why do you think Maduro is in NY?It's isn't as simple as "take loot" but "we rely on X economic sector and Y poses a threat" is a very common motivation.Read up on Europen dependance on Russian gas, that gas being cut to apply political pressure, the Qatar / Turkey pipeline and development of Ukie fieldsYou can explain it in 100,000 words if you want to be a wanker but it all comes down to Russia being dependant on gas exports and many attempts to replace them as Europes supplier.Bonus points look at the planned route of the Qatar / Turkey pipeline and see which countries were going to get what cut of gas pumped.
>>64745275>Why do you think Maduro is in NY?I think it's really obvious, profit and further distraction. Silver lining is putting his fat commie-narco ass behind bars, and the Venezuelans certainly don't seem to be missing him.Watching the Chinese mald about it is also extremely funny.
>>64745080>mass immigration isn't happening>mass immigration is happening but it's a good thing>mass immigration is a bad thing but you should blame the russians (even though we're still not doing anything to stop it)
Could you make a ballista with only classical or medieval materials strong/large enough to penetrate a steel armored tank? Let's say an M4A2E8 in case exact specifications are needed.
no
>>64745053lol no. they can't even penetrate medieval individual double-ply armor.
>>64745053There's a reason we moved on my man.
If you believe in yourself, and with the power of friendship and love, you can achieve anything!
How hard would it be for a handgonner to hit a man sized target at 60m?
>>64743971Machining tolerances.>>64744091No.
>>64741154>Towards the of their partnership Karl would state something and if Ian offered a conflicting view you could see the rage flood over Karl.>LET ME FINISHI remember that well, it's true, and the greentext memes were awesome
>>64743971>better condition >better tolerances>better trigger>better lock-time>more uniform loads/bulletsI sometimes wonder too
>>64743971because they didn't need to be super accurate guns, their main purpose was to provide volley fire, that's why they were deliberately loaded with undersized balls to make reloads faster but making them more inaccurate. using an appropriately sized ball in a smoothbore musket can get you a relatively small spread, but it takes more time and effort to load which isn't the best thing under the stress of battle, especially when volume of fire is more important than the accuracy of individual shots.these days though, muskets are novelty guns used for fun, so you have plenty of time to experiment with different loads and to use properly sized balls, because you don't have to worry about redcoats ordering a bayonet charge against your position.
>>64734714No it didnt lol. Early guns were super expensive. They also required super rare materials (saltpetre, sulfur) mixed in certain amounts and treated in the correct way; that was privileged knowledge of the cannon maker's guilds. Early cannon was WAYYYY more effective and influential than early hand firearms. >battlefield is dominated by rich man covered head to toe in very expensive steel armor>he has literally spent half of his entire life training in the art of killing other people>he is basically invincible What actually killed this was the pike block, and it happened centuries before competent hand firearms. In France they consider the Battle of Nancy to be the end of the middle ages for this reason; it doesn't really matter how skilled or armored you are when there's 30 tightly packed guys with overlapping pike forests and halberds moving toward you.
