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Would you have scuttled her like Langsdorff or gone out like a hero?
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>>65050885
>pocket battleship
was always a media or propaganda term, coined by the WW2 bong equivalent of the National Interest's defence journo section ("Here's The Royal Navy's Pocket Battleship Nightmare!!")

the RN itself called them heavy cruisers, maybe battlecruisers, recognising in them the next step of heavy cruiser evolution that every Navy had been working on, and which their diplomats intervened to stop by means of the Washington Naval Treaty
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>>65050993
I prefer the other anon's big-gun light cruiser as most accurate/descriptive from an engineering and outfit perspective
or mini-battleship (due to the main armament)
Cruiser gunship
They're not heavy cruisers, or battlecruisers
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>>65051023
>anon's big-gun light cruiser as most accurate/descriptive from an engineering and outfit perspective
what, >65043138? that's me

>mini-battleship (due to the main armament)
that would, in theory, be a battlecruiser
11" guns juuuust squeeze in by dint of being WW1 battleship calibre, barely
(the first German dreadnoughts, the Nassau class, had 11"ers)

>They're not heavy cruisers
based on their armour scheme? then, frankly, none of the 1st-gen treaty heavy cruisers are heavy cruisers. they all made heavy compromises to armour in order to carry those big 8"ers
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>>65050993
It's a result of the Treaty of Versailles.
Article 190 has different terms in different languages
https://www.versailler-vertrag.de/vv5.htm
>Armoured ships 10,000 tons
>10000 Tonnen für die Schlachtschiffe,
>10,000 tonnes pour les cuirassés,
The French and German version call them battleships but the English doesn't.
Obviously 10,000 tons ended up being more in line with the Washington Naval Treaty's limit for cruisers but those were limited to 8" guns. Part of the reason of giving them those oversized guns was the hope to get the Versailles treaty revised and Germany accepted into the Washington treaty system.
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>>65051035
Idgaf about your textwalls and nonsensical pedantic microhairsplitting-of-definitions, my post (You) replied to said everything.

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As most of you probably already know, the US made simple single shot pistols and planned to drop them to the french resistance back in WW2.
I was thinking, how much would a modern equivalent cost, as a means to arm the Iranian anti regime protesters?
The main reason the protests failed was because the regime had guns and the people didn't, so what if instead of dropping bombs, the US dropped crates with thousands of these guns?
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>>65049536
>As most of you probably already know, the US made simple single shot pistols and planned to drop them to the french resistance back in WW2.
They weren't meant to be dropped to the French resistance, they were meant to be dropped to the French populous. They weren't made cheap to save costs but to be borderline useless, on purpose. As >>65050143 said, the French resistance got Sten guns as well as other actual guns delivered, not trash single shots.
The problem with dropping hundreds of thousands of guns to randos is that 95% will be confiscated and thus go on to serve the German Army (they would love to outsource their SMG production to the Allies) but since these are unrifled single shot junk, the Germans would have zero use for them, even the .45 ACP cartridge is useless to them. If they do anything with them, it would be to recycle them for metal and powder. The point of the operation is that even after attempting and failing to confiscate them all, now any French citizen could have a point blank fuck you in their pocket that they missed. It creates an atmosphere of fear among the occupiers and makes the populous more bold in resisting.
As for how this would work in Iran. Well if you have contacts with actual resistance groups, you send them M4's and explosives, the US is not hurting for cash or rifles, cost saving here is retarded. If you want to pull a mass paradrop of junk guns, 3D printed is the way to go but truthfully, at this point the Iranian people probably hate us far more than their Government and as >>65049569 pointed out, anything we send on mass to randos will come back to bite us if we occupy them.
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>>65050317
I mean, yeah it looks dodgy as fuck, but it seems to work.
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>>65050382
For a given definition of "work", of course.
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>>65050382
>>65050396
fascinating. sadly I'd be too scared to put even a chalk round through that let alone an explosive round with some actual weight behind it
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>>65050258
Ugly soab

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He is risen - happy Easter

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>Image limit reached

https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player
>I can hear the call of the Lord when I use the 4chan sound player
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Hello /ak/ anons, here is your 3D Kaitanen as promised. Do with it as you please. The eyes are kinda wonky on one but im sure there is some blender tutorial on how to un wonk it. I dont know who else to send to the 3D slopper. Maybe little fox?

I dont wanna go to work tomorrow, but i guess i gotta make a pay check.

Kaitanen3D
https://files.catbox.moe/nneg4s.zip
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>>65050945
any lewds?
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M16...
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>>65049407
female in suit, erotic
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>>65046730
I'm so tied of seeing this slag posted everywhere.

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Thoughts on USAF pilots survival gear?
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>>65049938
Do the door gunners just scream incoherent slurs while thundercunting any groups of dudes they see in the dunes?
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What happened to PDWs? Weren't they designed for a situation like this?
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>>65051098
No, they were designed for logistics drivers and other rear echelon people who needed something that would be easy in and out of a vehicle while allowing them to defeat shitty Spetznatz armor. They proved themselves to be terrible at engaging unarmored targets, especially with AP bullets, while lacking sufficient AP for modern plates and have been phased out of use in favor of SBRs instead for good reason.
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>>65051098
no, PDW were meant for rear and support units to carry in an unobtrusive in case of an enemy raid. They are for the chefs, drivers, plumbers and desk jockeys to have something better than a pistol.
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>>65051098
A rifle is more controllable and a better ranged weapon, laid out more like something the pilot is more likely to be able to easily practice with and also much better suited to game hunting if required.

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I have not been paying attention to the pump-action/semi-auto shotgun scene in like a decade. I have my Over-under duck-.hunter and so far it has been fine enough.

But recently I have been thinking that I might want to upgrade to either pump-action or semi-auto model. And since I have not been paying attention, I have little knowledge about "how good is the tech" and "What are the models worth considering".
Like, I have had this old (admittedly unfair and biased) view that semi-autos are unreliable and you should at least demand a back-up pump-action feature. But I recognize that these days semi-autos can be considered reliable and I shoudl rid myself of these biased thoughts.

So... What are the modern standards for a semi-auto shotguns (with possible "this pump-action is still better" options)?
Key categories:
1) The unassuming "basic bitch" models that are reliable and will pass the innocent "it's just a duck-hunting gun" test. The relatively inexpensive ones.
2) Gucci bling models, where it's still a "hunting model, but a fancy one". can be with extra features.
3) "The Tacticool option", where you have pistol grips, extended mags, rails, bells and whistles.

I am not looking for some "home defense model", but since the world is getting to be a bit more dangerous these days, options for such can not be overlooked.

Give me your selection of decent shotties.
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>>65049638
I just bought a SBS entry M2 earlier this year. It fucks. I also have an M4, and the weight difference is crazy. That inertia system is very light.
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just get a Benelli
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>>65050152
a drumfed supershorty wouldnt even work the drum would get in the way of pumping it.
but really just look in to the 590m
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>>65050200
Bottom
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>>65048286
m4 is the king probably
1301 is good
a300 is good
mossberg 940 is fine too from what I've seen

>>65050062
gnesis 12 looks wild though but you have to fiddle with a FRT not sure if it needs tuning or whatever I've never shot one but it looks insanely fun

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Would energy weapons actually be better than bullets and missiles?
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>>65043311
You're two stupid looking parents glued together at the molecule, faggot.
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>>65027951
>>Necrons: Good fights, but are too humorless and don't scream when you kill them
Being literally created to fight the necrons surely has to bump this up a few tiers.
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>>65027923
At long ranges a laser that is literally just point and shoot would make anyone into a sniper suddenly so could be quite useful. However there is an inherent range limit to lasers due to thermal blooming from the atmosphere making them effective within a mile, maybe a couple miles under ultra ideal conditions.

Lasers also allow other tactics we just don't consider normally like being able to effortlessly start fires at will from mile+ ranges. Lots of fires will be accidentally lit from laser fights regardless in a forest or if the infrastructure in a city has flammable materials all over.

As for fantasy energy weapons well that's just arbitrary utterly. Plasma as it actually exists would be a terrible weapon. And if the supposed advantage is it fires bolts of something similar to star plasma, launching little pieces of the sun around is going to cook the operator just as fast as the target. And set the entire room or ground on fire as they travel whether you wanted that to happen or not.

I suppose things like the mass effect nano-particle accelerator guns are an idea too but I don't know how the calculations work on that for being actually useful. So it's like you're carrying around a particle accelerator as a weapon? There was a guy hit by a beam of one of those things when he leaned over and it went through his face, and it does cause massive damage.. but it takes days to actually occur. Kind of like a super localized radiation ray.
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>>65045056
rail gun is a dead end
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>>65028711
>muh mirror
Reddit tier science

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>>65049658
>NOOOOOO THE AMMO IS TOO EXPENSIVE
>WE KNOW YOU DEVELOPED A CLASS OF SHIP TO CARRY A BIG GUN THAT SHOOTS FAR
>BUT THE AMMO IS JUST TOO DAMN COOOOOOOSTLY
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>>65049901
>missiles aren't cool
genuinely puzzled how a person can end up saying things like this unironically
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>>65049679
FPBP
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>>65049658
>t. Yamato
>ran away from destroyers and escort carriers
>got sent on a one way suicide trip
>blew up spectacularly
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>>65049815
Man with gun will never be fully obsolete if you need to hold ground. Drones can do good area denial, they can't occupy a place effectively, and that is an important distinction. I know America is habitually afraid of ground deployments due to the MIC's policy of "faff around for no reason to make a bunch of money" and modern America's infamously poor casualty tolerance, but they are necessary depending on the scope of an operation.

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How feasible would it be to use a nuke on Iran's underground missile silos, and uranium enrichment sites? This idea has been proposed in the past for targeting the underground sites buried more than 1,000 ft deep.
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>>65049703
>Iran started aggressively shooting at our aircraft after we started defensively bombing their schools and hospitals, so now we have to nuke them
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>>65049427
>President Trump takes to social media to praise allah on Easter
Man I love Easter, it's one of my favorite holidays.
Seeing the POTUS call people bastards and pull this out of his hat first thing Easter morning really had me down in the dumps for a few hours til I saw my nephews and gave them a fucking ton of candy.
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>Step 1: surface-penetrating NOOK NOOK
>Step 2: blame radiation on hidden enemy uranium stockpile scattered by 100 percent conventional strike (wink)
>Step 3: Discredit all opposition
>3a: suppress physical evidence of NOOK NOOK by flooding the media with an endless tide of brown retard takes
>3b: call anybody questioning your narrative a tranny faggot
>Step 4: ??????????
>Step 5: MULTIPOLAR WORLD ORDER ACHIEVED
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>>65049794
Fuck off
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>>65049433
>It is the foreign policy of the USoA to never EVER use a first strike.

1. The United States has never expressly disavowed First Use of nuclear weapons and this ambiguity is both intentional and a core part of US foreign policy

2. The United States literally engaged in First Use of nuclear weapons in 1945 against Japan (and it worked so well that they haven't been used since).

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>>65050694
You can’t convert shit. Like the guy who wanted to build an ak from scratch and when several anons told him if he’s out of his depth he had an autistic meltdown.
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>>65050967
I speared one with my bayonetta when the goo I used to clean my raifu dang gum froze my bolt shut.
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>>65050751
Marstar but only because they have an ironclad warranty
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>>65051078
Really depends on the gun.
Some are relatively easy, like ps90's and Ar's, most others not so much.
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>>65051092
Most people struggle to assemble ikea furniture and are losers in general, hence they are not converting shit. This is the new “i could build a sten in my garage after 1 trip to home depot and 30 minutes” reddit faggotry.

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>uses less metal than a sword
>can be carried in your belt like a sword
Why didn't more cultures have a tomahawk culture? I think only the Vikings, injuns and Americans used tomahawks
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>>65032131
An axe is a tool while the sword is a weapon, even minecraft proves this in the inventory section of creative mode.
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>>65050909
correct, an ax cannot hurt you
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Put a tomahawk head on a full size axe handle and thank me later
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>>65032131
>I think only the Vikings, injuns and Americans used tomahawks
The entire old world had similar "axes" in the stone age that even persisted on to the iron age in the form of the scythian axe and the Chinese Ger
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>>65050884

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Wait a second, wouldnt berdan primers be "better" in the sense that the anvil is in the case and the "primer" is just soft brass that gets struck? Couldnt you just cast little bitchass brass primers then, or is there still some special part prohibiting you from making your own? Im speaking of better in the sense that if they try to cuck us and ban, bottleneck or otherwise restrict primers to average joes
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>>65050115
Or just make the anvil part of the primer and skip the bullshit.
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>>65050231
No more primers for you then, little chud
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>>65050243
You can fucking make your own primers out of old beer cans and cola cans, you retard.
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>>65050246
Go ahead and try it then.
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>>65050115
Show and tell

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POST TANKS

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HOT SINGLE HESH ROUNDS WANT TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
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>>65037952
Is there a future for tanks? They are expensive, take a long time to produce, can only travel on land, requires 3-4 crew,

Anti-tank weapons are getting better and are pretty easy and cheap to mass produce. Easy to use too. Even drones are getting good at taking out tanks.
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>>65047941
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>>65049572
Yes, there's a reason Ukraine and Russia are both building more as fast as they can despite knowing more about anti tank weapons and drones than you do.
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>>65048861
That’s the gayest camo possible for abrooms
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>>65048841
sexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsex
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that broad can fuck of tho

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Yakovlev was the most underrated Soviet Design Bureau
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How did yak go from being the premier fighter plane manufacturer is the ussr to completely irrelevant in the jet age
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>>65045103
their dick
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>>65039082
The gentle lines on that right one. So nice.
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Yak-9 was the most important VVS fighter
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>>65050270
That would be p-47 aka allied air force

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>shits all over staccato to the point of capitalizing the 2011 market

So how did Kimber pulled this off, by getting rid of the old CEO?
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>>65050657
what's the point? da/sa is a solution to a problem that never existed.
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>>65044174
Gun Kata
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>>65050125
I've still had no issue btw. Have maybe 1k rounds through it now.
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>>65050753
Yeah, I’ve seen more people with DW’s that are perfect but the two I’ve personally shot/touched had issues. I did fix it, at least that it didn’t happen in the 200 rounds I test fired after the test, before it was every other magazine. There’s that other anon with the .45 and 9mm or 10mm twin specialists that has no issues.

I guess I’m just cursed.
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>>65048717
Not doubting this being a possible problem for this gun, but doesn't that look dry as fuck? Kimber 1911/1911-likes need to be field stripped and oiled alot before you shoot them

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This probably has been asked a lot, but are bolters realistic? And if they could exist, would they be as good at penetrating armor as the tabletop game suggests?
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>>65049632
>homophobia
>on 4chan of all places
Do you not know where you are?
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>>65049575
Of course not, we just outright delete them for having wrong opinions.
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>>65028560
No they are not
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>>65049628
In general, codexes >>> black library for primary sources. And in the former a chaos space marine says that charging a line of 100 lasguns is extremely dangerous, because one bolt WILL eventually find a joint or especially an eye-hole.
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>>65048037
>Muzzle flipping a couple of degrees upwards before the rocket even leaves the chamber
Yikes


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