Are there any other sci-fi books that have a setting like Book Of The New Sun? I really love Urth and the Commonwealth and its blend of low tech and high tech, its basically medieval setting with hidden pockets of absurd sci-fi tech lurking around waiting to be found. I can see why Wolfe preferred to call it "science fantasy." Even apart from the apparent reality of magic, the setting has the feel of a fantasy setting, it's just the "magic" is extremely advanced technology.Any other books or book series that have this sort of setting and vibe?
>>24782315The Broken Empire trilogy by Mark Lawrence. First book is Prince of Thorns.
>>24782572for the night land you should check the 'revisited' or the 'retold' versionthe original is a chore to read imho
>>24783581>for the night land you should check the 'revisited' or the 'retold' versionNo you shouldn't, stop shilling your shitty hack version of the night land you fedora wearing faggot>the original is a chore to read imhoFuck you
>>24782315Viriconium
>>24782315bump I'm almost finished with the series and will have nothing left to do other than reread it ad infinitum
why isn't anyone capturing this growing market?
>>24784295What if the system is replaced with excess humanity being subjected to hydrothermal liquefaction, thereby converting them into carbon-neutral crude oil? The technology exists. It merely requires the will to use it. There will be much less reluctance (and laws) if the system collapses. And then you'll serve one last useful purpose in this world as you go out my car's tailpipe.
>>24784100>what’s the plan for when mom and dad can’t work anymore or don’t have money?they get some shit wagie job and live a miserable lifeever seen a 50 year old working at your local grocery store? yeah
>>24784136The real question is what normalfags are going to do when they get replaced by AI and can no longer wage slave for money.
as a neet/hikkimori i self study poetry in my massive down time. I thought about using being a neet as my gimmick, ill be the neet poet. Like a modern day bukoswski who never leaves his house and doesnt get laid. A new age melancholy and mundane american version of phillip larkin.but then i remeber i suck at poetry and im lazy so i just go back to sleeping or watching anime
>>24784687That's me
PEAK EditionStubbed >>24776634>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>Advice for Noobs!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24784452it's cool
>>24784452In the absence of a strongly justice-minded power with a monopoly on the legitimate use of force, how is that not the optimal move?I suppose one would also want to slaughter their animals and burn their villages to the ground to ensure you don't miss anyone who might hold a grudge after.Being known for outrageously out of proportion revenge is one way of avoiding conflict in the first place.
>>24784452I think it's supposed to be reminiscent of Chinese civil war antics and the type of stuff Ghengis Khan would do. I don't think Chinese engage in this type of stuff over family feuds.Also you could argue it's kill or be killed with these cultivators.
>>24784461It doesn't actually fulfill your objective. >young master of the Xia clan offends MC>MC kills him>MC kills the entire Xia clan and village>the Ji clan had married a young miss into the Xia clan last month>the girl gets killed by MC too>the brother of the girl finds out in 3 months and swears revengeClans and villages are not self-contained units. The only real way to avoid revenge spirals is to come to an agreement with the clan or some third party that can enforce the no revenge clause. Also, MC typically outscales everyone else. Nobody's going to be able to catch up with MC to even try to take revenge. He's gonna be 3 entire worlds above before some punk gets on his previous level.
>>24784395That oath is such a dumb idea that I won't read BTDEM on principle alone.>>24784364I don't mind if MC sees the value of life. I just hate dumb artificial restrictions. MC should do what needs to be done.
An informative pic for /lit/Plato advocated for more centralized system and unitary ideals; Aristotle advocated for political pluralism and a partnership of clans (which is the basis for a partnership of states in decentralized models).
>>24784678I think the Catholic Church vs Orthodox Church in terms of hierarchy is a good example of this difference in centralization vs decentralization in terms of Plato and Aristotle.The Catholic Church is a more corporatist hierarchy with the Pope's jurisdiction on the top. It is more unitary like Plato advocates.But the Orthodox Church hierarchy is between bishops with no higher authority among the bishops. It is an autocephalous church.Let's go back to what you're referencing: >he is celebrating the self-determining, self-governing coalescence of the citizenry around a common good, not a pluralism where individualsOk, self-governing -- that is exactly like the Orthodox Church's hierarchy, it is pluralistic among the bishops, but it is not individualism, but a partnership of clans -- I don't mean individualism, but multi-party systems vs one-party systems.The Catholic Church is like a one-party system: it isn't a multi-party system where partnerships converge, but rather descends from the unity of the Pope.Catholic Church is more centralized as opposed to the Orthodox Church. It is also more unitary. Whereas the Orthodox Church seems to built on Aristotle's political ideals for its hierarchy.
Orthodoxy is a good illustration of how Aristotle advocates a partnership of clans (political pluralism / multi-parties) united around a common good -- not as a unitary body -- but as a concordant kind of body.
I think this example of Orthodoxy shows exactly as Hobbes says, for instance, with regard to Aristotle:>The error concerning mixed government has proceeded from want of understanding of what is meant by this word body politic, and how it signifies not the concord, but the union of many men.So this hierarchy is a concord among the Orthodox Churches like a partnership of clans -- its structure is more concordant than unitary, the only unifying element is the virtue that unites them, and that virtue is their friendship.But when you look at modern politics... and the idea of sovereignty... it is moreso the idea that unity comes first, and this unity is from the sovereignty, as Plato puts it, like the unity of the soul moves the body.>No otherwise than Theseus his ship, which although it were an hundred times changed by putting in of new planks, yet still retained the old name. But as a ship, if the keel (which strongly bears up the prow, the poup, the ribs, and tacklings) be taken away, is no longer a ship, but an ill favoured houp of wood; even so a Commonwealth, without a sovereignty of power, which unites in one body all members and families of the same is no more a Commonwealth, neither can by and means long endure. And not to depart from our similitude; as a ship may be quite broken up, or altogether consumed with fire; so may also the people into diverse places dispersed, or be utterly destroyed, the City or state yet standing whole; for it is neither the walls, neither the persons, that makes the city, but the union of the people under the same sovereignty of government.>For that as of unity depends the union of all numbers, which have no power but from it: so also is one sovereign prince in every Commonweale necessary, from the power of whom all others orderly dependAs Hobbes says here:>The other error in this his first argument is that he says the members of every Commonwealth, as of a natural body, depend one of another. It is true they cohere together, but they depend only on the sovereign, which is the soul of the CommonwealthWhich is a re-assertion also of what Plato would say, that the body doesn't necessarily depend upon the concord of the parts, but the soul to move the body.
>>24784657If your standard for understanding these things is what Popper says, then your understanding is getting distorted. Popper abstracts, as, for example, the pic in OP does. For there, when it cites Plato from book 5, it misses the whole import of the entire discussion, namely, that they're seeking to see whether such a city resembles an individual man *because they're seeking an account of what justice would be like in an individual man*. The elaboration on the city is for the sake of understanding the individual. And as a result of being led by Popper, who himself was led by the need to establish a thesis, you and Popper miss all of the passages in the Republic emphasizing that the city is being elaborated on for the sake of understanding justice in the individual. Far from advocating it, Plato goes out of his way to emphasize how extraordinarily improbable the actual foundation of the city would be, and that one in fact shouldn't be preoccupied with trying to found it at all, but only use it as a model for their own individual conduct (see the very last pages of book 9, though there's a long section in book 5 within 10 pages of the section quoted in the puc saying just that too).
>>24784711>The elaboration on the city is for the sake of understanding the individualHow does that debunk it?It the city could be understood for the justice of the individual, then that encapsulates it pretty well: what is understood for the individual applies for the city. In his book Laws, Plato says this. >No one will ever lay down another definition that is truer or better than conditions in point of super-excellence. In such a STate -- be it gods or sons of gods that dwell in it -- they dwell pleasantly, living such a life as this.>Wherefore one should not look elsewhere for a model constitution, but hold fast to this one, and with all one's power seek the constitution that is as like to it as possible. Even if Plato's Republic is a individual metaphor for the soul, that doesn't disqualify it as a means to better understand political organization or its influence over the development of later political ideas (esp. unitary political ideologies that also seek to make people act as it were like one man).
Is it gay to read in the bathtub while drinking tea and smoking cigarettes
>>24779591>Smoking a cigFaggotry in the name
>>24779591Smoking cigs in the bath is gay. Drinking tea in the bath is gay. Taking a bath in it of itself is not gay, however it’s meaningful to add magnesium chloride (not magnesium sulfate aka Epsom salts — Epsom salts are fine but magnesium chloride is absorbed by the skin better) and lavender oil.
>>24784596Fucking tripfaggot moron
>>24784236I was using a batman forever promotional mug from mcdonalds if i remember correctly. don't know where it came from, i hate superhero comics.
>>24784718>batman foreveri think this was the gayest part, desu
>used to play a lot of video games>got bored and stopped>used to watch a lot of movies>got bored and stopped>used to listen to a lot of music>got bored and stopped>used to read a lot of booms>got bored and stoppedWhat now?
>>24784354I already said I do everyday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gT68xeDMM
>>24783745what the fuck is TL for us idiots?
>>24784357you never said that
You are probably depressed, find a new hobby and exercise
Why do we never mention the library and always talk about pirating? It's like a legal form of pirating and you can watch cool movies too with Kanopy.It it a psyop to destroy trust in communities and make posters scared to leave the house?
I live in 3rd world. No library culture here
>>24784124My library has mentally ill people around it and in it. Also browns. I do like kanopy and the audio book thing.
>>24784124i saw a cute college girl in the library once. i was 28/29 at the time.
>>24784124IJ checked out by the tome gnomes again
Imagine how cool the library would be if they kicked out the homeless and got rid of the gay stuff and children's section and let people drink coffee and smoke
What spawns your desire to read? Also, where do you read? Do you have a comfy spot at home? Do you read in your bed?
>>24782862I like to read about cool shit and expand my mind a little. Simple.
>>24784559it's not too late it's never too late
>>24784636If you're over 25 and have never written anything it's absolutely too late.
Seeming smart--and seeming smart in public. . .And uh, also I write in public. . . to seem smart.
>>24782862It's interesting :D
What's the most emotionally rewarding marriage in literature?
Levin and Kitty
>>24784464>you hold intimacy sacrosanct instead of pleasuring your vapid basal instincts like an animal? DEVIANT!!
Stoner
>>24784188Romeo and Juliet
>>24784574shit had me smiling like a schoolgirl
Does anyone know if the hardcover of this is a glued binding? Also, how is this book in general? Did you guys buy anything during the amazon sale
>from the earliest accounts to the fall of Romebook length: 896 pagesthat's a compendium, not a history
>>24784394It’s good. Her book on the medieval world is also good.
>>24784530900 pages is long but it’s not that daunting. And considering it’s covering almost 4000 years of global history it’s about what should be expected.
>>24784535C'mon 900 pages aren't even enough to cover Republican Roman, let alone the entirety of recorded history up to the fall of Rome
I read some of the "anti-racist" biographies at the public library, and the level of hatred these brown women have towards white girls is insane. There was one with a black girl at some anti-racist seminar just demeaning and making fun of this white woman doing her best to apologize for her implicit biases and privilege. With all these books about race being published everywhere, all these experiences as a diaspora. When is the actual unspoken truth going to get published? the burning resentment and hatred that non-white women have towards white women? Or is that too much for the publishing industry?
>>24784221>I happen to like white girls.You say this as if it was something rare, when pinkos by a wide margin are only interested in other pinkos >it was only white girls, and I mean -ONLY- white girls that cared for animals.How many of it is done as a way to gain good boy points though>How they whip and beat donkeys all across north africa.True, but you have to admit white pepo can love animals way too much, the whole furbaby stuff for example. I remember I read some ancient guy talking about the romans if I'm remembering correctly, and how their women would not have children and instead would raise and pamper monkeys and other animals as their offspring. Sounds familiar?
>>24784276No actually, I don't think they do it just to their advantage. I think the only reason you've gotten away with slandering them as Karens for so long is because they're genuinely nice people, who take the shit you say at face value. It's a way for you people to virtue signal too, go along and care for animals. If you can, that turkroach Hasan Piker couldn't even resist shock collaring and abusing his dog on stream, I doubt you'd last a week before breaking the wings of a small bird. The single claw of a dog is worth the life of 1,000 people who would abuse animals. The English in particular take great offense to animal abuse. You don't think I'm close to non-whites too? We live in demographic replacement countries after all, and we're forced into the same environments. Do you really think a brown girl hasn't vented to me about how Steve Jobs and Bill Gates didn't actually come from poor families and had nepotism? Dumping all this information on me in a longpost, whining about how social mobility is a myth? You think white people don't see Indians worship tech billionaires like gods? You think I haven't said "don't people in your country get married younger?" (based on a statistical fact) and the person in question just dismissively going "Oh that's just for poor people". Never heard a white person shrug off and say that's for the poors. I might online, but even I wouldn't IRL. You want to prove me wrong? Work to take these anti-white books off the library bookshelves, speak up about how white people don't deserve this treatment.
>>24784308>No actually, I don't think they do it just to their advantage.I didn't say they only did it because of that doe>I think the only reason you've gotten away with slandering them as KarensIn what part of my post didn't I even alluded to this?>go along and care for animalsI personally don't care for it, but my dad and sister rescue animalsThe rest of your post is pure seethe so I'm not going to address it. I'm guessing you think I said all of that in bad faith because I call white people pinkos>Work to take these anti-white books off the library bookshelves, speak up about how white people don't deserve this treatment.We don't really have those in my country, same with the racial grifting, people have tried to do it but it doesn't stick up here and its quickly dismissed
>>24779524A German mayor just got stabbed by her adopted black kid.
>>24784647>The fact that German women don’t vote overwhelmingly for AfD after 2015-2016You cannot save someone who doesn’t want to be saved.
Satanic panic edition. Old >>24736100
>>24783703What books do you find scary, then?
>>24783836Ones written after 2000.
>>24783703This but the opposite.
What else would I like if I liked Aickman's brand of subtle horror more than the "woahh it has like a million eyes and a billion teeth and omfg I'm going cuhrayzeee!" brand of horror that is popular nowadays?
>>24784679For older, M.R. James, for newer, Reggie Oliver. You could also check out Walter de la Mare for another older author, but I found his prose dry and difficult to get through.
Why did Tolkien make Sauron the titular character of The Lord of the Rings?
>>24784390Definitely wings. I'm pretty sure it was at least implied, if not outright stated, that the balrog had wings.
I like the idea of Pleistocene megafauna existing in the dark corners of the world.
>>24784661It's not stated, the description is kind of nebulous and the question of whether it had wings or not has been a contentious one among Tolkien nerds.
Balrogs have wings because it harkens back to classic infernal demons. End of.
>>24784686I can't believe that's a big topic of debate.
Is it true that french is a much more sophisticated and elegant language than English?
>>24781570>Americans>another group of EnglishmenThe majority of Americans are literally non-white lmao
>>24782308>Doesn't English have like the most actual words?That's Greek
>>24782359Again, still a lot of wiggle room for different criteria and definitions.>>24783079If you define "Greek" as including every work from Homer on down even if it's completely incomprehensible to a modern speaker without prior study, maybe. But that's like including everything from the Roman Kingdom on down as Italian.
>>24783934you’d need huge differences in criteria to turn 120,000 into 600,000.
>>24781306>Is it true that french is a much more sophisticated and elegant language than English?God no. Have you ever heard French spoken in person? It sounds like they're trying to speak English with a dick in their mouth.
>starts describing how succulent Dolores is or something like thatDropped. I'm too normal for this book.
>>24780906I uncontrolled masturbated in the university library to the first couple chapters way too many times.
>>24780906faggot>>24781232based
>>24781185I want books like this one but with the opposite viewpoint
>>24781195I'd say you're not enough of a child lover if that was your reaction
>>24781172Why? I've read the first 2 chapters and I don't get why you told me to read it yet.