>signed up for the book club>read the book>took two ativans for my nerves>showed up>sat across the street and watched people go in>decided to go home Books for crippling social anxiety and loneliness?
Crush up the ambiens and snort them then drink an old fashioned and smoke a joint and cigarette in that order. Should produce quasi psychedelic effects
>>24750295>took two ativans>ativansWhat's that?
>>24750327Getting drunk helps you to talk to people but often the conversations you have are stupid as hell and if you try to follow up afterwards it's just embarrassing and you have nothing in common. I had a cocaine phase and that stuff was incredible for conversation I would stay up all night having what, in the moment, were the most riveting dialogues of our time, but cocaine comedowns are nightmarish and everyone who does cocaine is a complete mess and trying to turn late night cocaine chats into long term friendships is even worse than with alcohol.
>>24750327*ativan>>24750336They're high strength anti anxieties aka benzos like xanax
>>24750295Go to the next meeting. It's fine, if they hate you then they hate you. They probably won't but if they do there's nothing lost and nothing gained. If you hit it off with them and have a good time then you've gained something and lost nothing. Worst case scenario you embarrass yourself and don't go back. You're not a perfect being, you should get used to fucking up and spilling the spaghetti every once in a while.>>24750307why
"terrible copy/paste job" edition >>24722983"High School Girlfriend" editionPrevious: >>24707466 (Cross-thread) /wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ (embed)RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC (embed)Please limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24750175>>24750213>second excerpt, for context they're teenaged werewolves. Liam is a normal teen, Theo has murderdoctor skills for lore reasonsHe works quickly, cutting away Liam’s shirt and stripping Liam bare to below the waist on automatic. The exit wound is immediately obvious. It is a sucking wet crater, ringed with torn strips of skin and muscle, and pimpled with squishy masses of yellow-red granulation tissue that pulsate with a supernatural vitality. Golden light from Theo’s blazing eyes reflect off the moist clusters as he pushes his fingers gently, firmly in and begins to pull apart, revealing thin, semi-translucent fascia and slick viscera beneath. Already he can tell there’s a problem: the peritoneum has healed poorly and the supracolic compartment is bulging, firm and springy to the touch. Unbidden, a voice burns through his mind.Diagnosis: Traumatic penetrating injury; abdominal gunshot wound. Multi-organ system involvement, suspected gastric perforation. Risk of ascites and chemical peritonitis. Exploration mandatory.With his free hand, Theo reaches again for his knife.The subject’s flesh parts easily under the metal, releasing a bloat of trapped bile, stomach acid, and destroyed fleshy structures into the wound. Theo washes it out as best he can with a water bottle from his gym bag, using clawtips on one hand to hold the flaps of peritoneum apart before reaching in with the other to sever the gastrocolic ligament and lift the stomach up. The posterior wall looks good, although part of it is still the milky-white of undifferentiated regrowth that, before Theo’s eyes, is colouring into stroma and parenchyma, and when he’s satisfied the healing will complete correctly he lets it go. The stomach settles wetly back into its cavity as the two ends of the severed ligament reach out for each other like alien questing hands. Then he moves further down, towards where the buckshot tore through wholesale and left only mince and ribbons behind, using the tip of his knife to separate adhesions and excise granulomas as he goes.Throughout it all, Theo keeps a careful ear to Liam’s heart, monitoring for a surprise cardiac arrest. The deeper he gets into it the more comfortable he feels. He examines developing arteries and arterioles with growing confidence, but clinical regard, teasing them out to their correct attachment points to the new-grown tissue rather than letting them find their own way, and at the very least it’s something that he knows he’s doing right. Thick rivers of blood form and overflow in the guttered plastic of Theo’s truck bed as he works, but any slight hesitation he feels at pushing his fingers through Liam’s reforming intestines to retrieve lead shot from underneath Liam’s pelvis is moderated by the knowledge that he didn’t get to sleep through it, when it was done to him. Erythropoiesis is one of the most elevated processes in werewolves anyway. Ischemic injury is unlikely - reperfusion a vanishing concern.
>>24750222the gay furry fanfic posting will continue until morale improves.but more seriously i am really hungry for feedback on the craft, style, tone, etc. but all i write is this shit and so the only feedback i get from readers is "omgggg yasss i love your theo i need more!!!" which i appreciate but doesn't help me much. even the smallest morsel of educated disdain is water at the end of a thousand deserts, and a thousand deserts more will i travel in my search for just a sliver of your contempt.
>>24750213>these paras are a thesis statement for the protagonist for how he justifies murdering people as mercy killingNTA to whom you were talking - if you're going to have gore in your opening paragraphs, you'll have to really outdo it later on because you set the bar that high from the start. Think about the movie "Jaws": Yeah, the girl gets killed by the shark at the beginning, but it's not *super* gory and you don't see the shark in full. The movie builds and builds to greater amounts of on-screen gore until the climax, when you finally see the shark in full and you see that one guy get eaten alive. Consider how much gore you actually need to "show" and how much gore you can merely imply, then figure out how long you can keep going with implication until you need to "show" the gore.I won't say "cut out all the gore entirely" because if you're trying to set the tone for your story, you'll need at least some gore. But consider how much of it you really need to set the tone. Consider the movie "Freddy vs. Jason" in this regard: Yes, the movie starts with violence (Jason killing a topless woman who was trying to skinny dip at Crystal Lake), but it's a low-level act of violence (he only stabs her in the gut) that is also contextualized (Jason's mind is being fucked with by Freddy while they're both in Hell) to set the stage for the violence to come.tl;dr - Don't go balls-to-the-wall with the gore out of the gate, but also don't cut it all out until later. Be judicious on how you use violence and gore to set the tone of your story and the expectations of potential readers.
>>24750262excellent feedback anon, i hadn't considered it from that perspective. gore is a huge part of this story because part of it is deconstructing the PG violence of the show and the other part of it is exploring the protagonist as an utter moral abyss and totally divorced from human sensibility. my hope is that the gore comes across as mundane and flat more than horrifying, in a way.thank you for replying!
>>24745656Ubik's fun.I really liked Time Out of Joint.
what's your strongest rebuttal against the problem of evil?
>>24747966Pagan gods are not omnipotent.
>>24749239I'm not even religious and obviously find this abhorrent, but it should be obvious that this doesn't subvert any arguments. Liberal hedonism has no imagination and so it believes the only metric for ideal goodly living is freedom from worldly suffering. By that argument, comforting numbness is ideal, infinite heroin with no drawbacks would be ideal, death would be ideal.
>>24747966Donesn't Plato solve this with the One, the forms and demiurge. The material world is simply imperfect but the best it could be.
god is not required to be comprehensible by mortal minds.if god is god then right is what god says it is and wrong is what he says it is. that's what it means. he's god.>"but that's stupid"agreed.consider pangloss: "all is for the best in this the best of all possible worlds". if this is the way that the world is, this is the way it has to be. why? who knows. but god is good and this is the world, so therefore this is a good world.
>>24749534>>24749749I am inclined to think this way too. I think omnipotent part is the weakest. ancient greeks didn't have omnipotent gods either yet they believed in them to govern things.>>24749339I like how you use your reasoning abilities to neuter yourself of basic instincts and inquiries simply because you cannot answer them so the questions themselves must be wrong or incorrect. it's astounding how stupid can people get.
Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24729043>Thread Question:Do you need supplementary material to enjoy books? I'm talking art, music, etc. based on the property? Does it help you visualize what you've read better?
>>24748749Shallan is, unfortunately, the main character of book 2. It's hard to know when her PoV will suddenly matter.
>>24740187Haven't read earthsea but I have read Heavens Lathe and loved it so probably earthsea
Is there a reason P. Watts has gotten so popular in the past 3 years? Or just a build-up of a consistent fan base creating content like that short film and online reviews?
>>24747602The worst part by far in the third book is Cassius escaping the moonbreaker. I just want this twist trope every author shits out to end. It is so tiresome.
>>24748931Against all Gods by Miles Cameron
>dude what if star wars but political
Young adult novel
>>24745838>dude what if star wars but super gay
>>24745850>fat evil depraved guyJabba = Baron Harkonnen
>>24745844>>24745852star wars retroactively influenced DUNE
>literally the most retarded thread on /lit/ rnCongratulations faggots.
Can someone point me to an amoral character? I don't think amorality actually exists. It seems like you're either doing good or doing evil.
>>24749978>He's just evil and somewhat retardedSo are you but I still tried to answer your question in good faith, you could have at least engaged with the argument I made.>>24749991/thread
>>24749978>>24749952God I love Pechorin, psycho that he is.
>>24749880Peter Sellers character in Being There>>24749891google
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>>24749880Cugel the CleverI can think of only one instance where he does not act with his own self-interest in mind regardless of the consequences to others
Are we more prudish in some ways now? When I read old books, people including men say stuff like "he is as serenely beautiful as Endymion" or "she has such pretty feet" but nowadays you'd seem weird if you did so, even in a piece of fiction - at the very least you wouldn't be able to say them innocently and without irony
>>24749091>weSpeak for yourself, zoomer.
>>24750186>normal heterosexual love is 40 year old guys dating 20 year old womenlol ok. in b4 any stupid evopsych babble. dudes who pursue relationships with women who are 15+ years younger than them are mentally stunted
>>24750224you are trans, and also this is a strawman.
>>24750224Kek, that anon really hit a nerve, didn't he?
>>24749126Underrated post
Will studying philosophy actually grant me wisdom? Or will it only grant me knowledge of other men’s opinions? Will studying Plato’s writing on the soul give me wisdom on the nature of the soul or just knowledge of Plato’s opinions on the soul?
>>24750268Post nudes. Tits or gtfoBut also there's a good chart on lefty chan but best advice is always bee yourself and follow heart over charthttps://leftychan.net/edu/src/1612207844643.pdf
>>24750284Don’t be gross, anon, it’s not 2019 anymore.
>>24750296Meme is like '09, ma'am. I kid, of course, tis a bleuboard and no one wants to see that shit anyway. But why announce you are woman at all? Throw away thy vanity if seek wisdom...
>>24746113>Will studying philosophy actually grant me wisdom?No.>Or will it only grant me knowledge of other men’s opinions?Yes.>Will studying Plato’s writing on the soul give me wisdom on the nature of the soulNo. >or just knowledge of Plato’s opinions on the soul?Yes.
>>24747144>>24747955You're both wrong. No, I won't explain.
I would like to know what /lit/ considers their personal favourite or the definitive "best" English translations of Homer's Odyssey. I AM interested in both a verse and a prose translation. For the Illiad I have read both Fagles for verse, and Hammond for prose. I greatly enjoy Fagles verse and I value Hammond's for its accuracy and literal translation of the Greek. Though he often falls into dull descriptions, and lacks the life, energy, excitement, and tension that I have found in Fagles. Now, the Odyssey is ultimately a very different poem to the Illiad in many ways, and thus a great translator of the Illiad may not always make a great translator of the Odyssey. I have yet to read the Odyssey in full, only a handful of passages when I took a Homer module at University. I own Fagle's translation but would love some input on others before I start a full reading.
Ezra Pound, Canto I
>>24749792Fagles, obviously.
>>24749792this is missing Lattimore.
>mogs all that came before and after
With the Church now positioned against AI, what philosophers or prominent ideologies, besides accelerationists and techno optimists, remain on the side of AI?
>>24750234>>24750243I know what it says, I'm asking why. Can you try to explain it at all? Without murdering me and burning all my books, preferably
>>24750261You’re more willing to accept that Jesus is God than you are that Jesus is not the Holy Spirit?
>>24750263I never said that
>>24750274So what’s your foundation? What do you believe in so I have something to build upon. Or do you want to start with Genesis?
>>24750261I’m not trying to be snarky, but a creed is a statement of faith. There is a logic to the Trinity, but its exact realization is a Holy Mystery. I’m sorry for a frustrating answer; believers find it frustrating too, but also beautiful!I hope you’re asking because you’re genuinely interested in God, and not just posting for its own sake. I’m not trained in apologetics, and I’d be sceptical if anyone here claimed to be, and that’s probably why you’re finding it hard to get a worthwhile answer. You’re better off talking to a priest, or a browsing dedicated Catholic forum.
Luv me Shae, Luv me Food editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>24729508
>>24749340> its embarrassing to a Christian in a Christian culture to own slavesThe bible literally has rules in it for how to correctly beat your slaves. Americans used Christianity as a justification for their slavery as well.
>>24750084I'm not sure they're defiant about it but maybe.
>>24750100>rules in it for how to correctly beat your slaveswhich are> And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. 27And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake.
>>24750220>if you beat your slave too hard you have to let him go freeWow, what an enlightened philosophy.
>>24750280the Bible says that man-stealers get the death penalty. liberals think enslaving men is good
He was a good philosopher and I'm tired of pretending he wasn't.
>>24749494Maybe, but it also corresponds pretty well to reality in my experience, even if accidentally. Anyway, anon is right. India has basically adopted the western conceptions of eastern religion. Modern day easterners' conception of religion is just the western evangelists' and colonialists' misunderstandings, reappropriated. The ancient depth, meaning and complexity, if it was ever there, is gone.
>>24749494No i see legit reasons not to like them
>>24749494they fill up the internet with quantity that degrades it, and many western countries too. Their culture today is also largely connected and americanized. So I wouldn't call the dislike forced.The comment you're replying to is unwarranted though.
>>24748304This isn't a thread about his private life. And moralfagging is always just projection.
>>24748606Jung wasn't a Buddhist, dumbfuck.
>>24749325you are just mad because you have no money to spend
>>24749325Anon, just because you haven't seen the things I have doesn't mean I'm illiterate. You are literally retarded if this isn't an actual concern of yours.
>>24748883Magnets damage disk-based hard drives, the storage on ereaders is solid state.>>24749484Most ereaders are waterproof now, and I hate water damaged books
>>24748772nah.it's original book or pocket edition.
>>24748791Kindle for reading. Paperback for booktock. Hardcover for scholarship
Favourite opening lines in a book?"My name is Ishmael" - Hunting A White Whale, Henry Melville
>I am a sick man, I am a wicked man. An unattractive man>Mine has been a life of much shame. I can't even guess myself what it must be to live the life of a human beingWhich one did it best?
limbus faggots
SEE THE CHILD
best thread to collect passphrase down there...
>>24749533Ok I see him. Now what
I’ve read of Hemingway’s Paris. I’ve read of Borges’ Mexico City. Do “Literature Cities” still exist nowadays? I wouldn’t even say Paris or Mexico City are still bastions of the written arts.
>>24750055No there hasn’t, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>24748598It was never going to work because Melbourne is filled with too many wankers, like Waldun.
>>24750138Hmmmm, who was director of the National Library in Mexico City, ummmmm, I think his last name started with a B…. Fucking retard, thinks people can only be associated with one city.
>>24750203It’s not going to work because of all the Aussies, perhaps the most degenerate race on this planet.
>>24748598>Pic:rel*What Aussie /lit/ is.*What my Gr. 12 teacher made us read instead of Hamlet*Why I'm now a lunatic chud.
