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>evil cannot *uurp* create
*plagiarizes Wagner's Ring Cycle*
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>>24949535
yea
Ring of Gyges
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>>24950497
Tolkien himself talks about half the shit y'all are arguing about in this thread. He was transparent about his influences and sources. Such a pointless thread.
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The traditions they took from had a culture that relied on borrowing. The entire point was to spread the memes so doing so in any way is a form of veneration.
Tolkien was likely aware of Gyges but so were the original authors of the Germanic myths. I don't know why people pretend the Germanics didn't have access to Roman and Greek works when it's even documented in Roman sources and some of the few Germanic texts we have include translations of Roman and Greek sources.
The ring in Völsunga saga represents the economic and military power of Rome, inherited to some degree by Germanic tribes like Burgundians along with a curse. So the idea of a corrupting ring of power from an ancient evil that may return is already established there.
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>>24944760
Tolkien generally appeals to browns. High-IQ whites don't engage with genreslop
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>>24950582
That explains why he’s so popular in America. Full of browns and the only whites there are so dumb they slop up Marvel movies. No appreciation for real literature, they’re incapable of it. Thank God I was born into a Western culture country.

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>match with woman on dating app
>we both have literature as shared interests
>she says "oh what's your favorite genre??"
>"I'm more into the classics"
>"but what's your favorite genre? Do you like sci fi?
>"I like transcendentalist literature"
>"oh ok"

Why do they ask
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got banned off hinge for making a stupid joke in my bio
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>>24947429
The reality of it is that women read but many of them are reading yaoi manga, erotic novels, or B&N slop. Everyone has their own niche and it takes a serious reader to be well read in multiple genres
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>>24948018
okay mate very cool
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>>24947429
wait does this work?
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>>24948914
Based. Find your wife.

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This book changed my life for the better
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>>24949040
>t. not a virgin and will never marry one
Kek, what's it like being a slut?
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>>24949463
>Men can also orgasm when they’re anally raped
I’m sure you do, faggot.
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>>24950179
>put more effort into it then she does
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This book changed me too.
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>>24949800
>>24949809
i don't think it's a "vast majority" but definitely some do. and it's not "rapey" it's perfectly normal consensual sex
i suspect it's all to do with upbringing, what they are taught is taboo, all that sort of thing

Good night frens.
Tell me your:
>favorite poet
>favorite playwright
>favorite composer
So I have some new comfy suggestions.
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Quite the pretentious pseud thread you have going here.
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Yeats
Pinter
Beethoven
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>>24949741
>Oh no! familiarity with high culture, canon literacy, and taste that isn't purely ironic, meme-based or pop-referential. On a literature board, of all places. Clearly everyone here is just trying to seem smart. Better devalue it quickly so I don't have to participate or feel inadequate.
How does it feel to be a gargantuan, insecure faggot?
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>>24947744
Have you checked out Berwald or Stenhammar, they are severely underrated and my favorite Swedish composers, check out Berwald's Third Symphony especially if you haven't (the other symphonies are comparable in quality too all incredible)
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>>24940941
Spenser (if including novelists Dostoevsky)
Shakespeare
Wagner/Debussy

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>december 2025
>novel still unfinished
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>>24948774
>ok OP what is your book about, please enlighten me
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>>24948774
you should drop writing alltogethr and learn how to code roblox games my little nephew makes a cool 600-800$ a month from it
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>>24949403
>>24949415
>>24949509

What is yalls method for writting? I am only able to make actual contributions to my drafts when an overwhelming feeling of certainty arises, giving me great inspiration and the knowledge to put together my lesser drafts into proper pages
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>>24949403
So ~50,000 words?
On the shorter side

>>24949415
There are a bunch of booktubers vlogging about the 7th draft of their novel

>>24950537
I only write when I feel inspiration and have coffee, which is most days
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>>24949415
>another draft
Anon…

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Just ordered this
What am I getting into?
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>>24950527
Your assumption is wrong. ESVCE was initiated by the Indian bishops because they don't have the rights to the New American Bible (owned by the US bishops) and the 1991 NRSVCE had been rejected by the Vatican for being "inclusive" garbage. The whole time the Indian Church had been using the 1952 RSV.
>>24950535
My copy says that the Gottingen Septuagint forms "the textual base for the deuterocanonical books. In the special case of Tobit, the translators used the longer Greek text (Sinaiticus) supplemented by the shorter Greek text (Vaticanus) and the Old Latin version at points where the longer text lacks some verses" (pg xvi). The Gospels are old ESV work; I'm not sure why you are mentioning them.
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>>24950543
Which KJV is supposed to be the perfect one, the original 1611 or the one people actually read today, since there were multiple revisions and they aren’t identical? If it’s the 1611, why doesn’t anyone use it? If it’s a later one, who changed God’s perfect word and when did it become perfect? Before 1611, did Christians just not have a real Bible at all? When the KJV translators openly said they weren’t inspired and that they were revising earlier English Bibles, were they wrong or just being dishonest? If the KJV can override or “fix” the Greek and Hebrew, what’s the point of Greek and Hebrew in the first place? Which Textus Receptus is the inspired one, since there are multiple editions that don’t agree with each other? And if God only preserved His word in English, why did nobody seem to know that for the first 1,600 years of church history?
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>>24946147
Some of its advices are bad, some are neutral, some are good. However, its previousd version, then Adam had two wives Lilith and Eve, I like it much better. And it is a pity that Methuselah's 965-year-long life is not described in sufficient detail in the Bible, Methuselah, my bow to him, was much wiser than Jesus Christ, who lasted only 33 years on Earth.
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>>24950557
>Which KJV is supposed to be the perfect one, the original 1611 or the one people actually read today, since there were multiple revisions and they aren’t identical?
The word of God on earth follows the trajectory of the Word of God on earth. Were there changes to Jesus’ body as he grew? Did he not also grow in wisdom and stature? Luke 2:40 and Luke 2:52. Which Jesus was perfect? The one before he increased in wisdom or the one after? I’m aware that there are minor spelling differences in the different King James versions.

>If it’s the 1611, why doesn’t anyone use it? If it’s a later one, who changed God’s perfect word and when did it become perfect?
God changed God’s perfect word. The Holy Spirit, quoting Old Testament scripture, makes changes as he see fit. He can do that because it’s his word. Compare 1 Corinthians 14:21 and Isaiah 28:11. It’s not the exact same, because that scripture is used at a different time for a different audience, speaking a different language.

>Before 1611, did Christians just not have a real Bible at all?
What do you mean “real”?
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>>24950581
>When the KJV translators openly said they weren’t inspired and that they were revising earlier English Bibles, were they wrong or just being dishonest?
I have read the preface. They were wrong, not dishonest. The Assyrian, the rod of God’s anger in Isaiah 10:5-7, did not know that he was being used by God. Same goes for the KJB translators.

>If the KJV can override or “fix” the Greek and Hebrew, what’s the point of Greek and Hebrew in the first place?
Biblically, a translation is always to a better stage/condition/version (see 2 Sam. 3:10, Col. 1:13, Heb. 11:5). The Hebrew and Greek served their purpose at crucial moments in history (and still serve their purpose today, don’t get me wrong). Today English is the lingua franca and the expansion of English in history coincides quite nicely with the King James.

>Which Textus Receptus is the inspired one, since there are multiple editions that don’t agree with each other?
I didn’t claim that any Textus Receptus is inspired. I’m claiming the King James Bible is. God can use any foundation; he used sinful men to speak and pen down his word. He spoke his word through a false prophet like Balaam.

>And if God only preserved His word in English, why did nobody seem to know that for the first 1,600 years of church history?
Today, God’s word is preserved in English. That wasn’t always the case in history, simply because English didn’t appear on the scene until a long time after. The word of God was preserved in Hebrew and Aramaic among the Jews, then later in Greek among the New Testament churches. But even in Paul’s time, people had started messing with the word, see 2 Corinthians 2:17 (“we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God”). God does not limit himself to church history, he has his own schedule, so when “the fulness of the time was come” (Galatians 4:4) his perfect word appeared.

Two Weeks Left Edition

>Old:
>>24936611

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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>no u!
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Chuds please order books from Baen and stfu.
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Just finished Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, and I have no clue why it isn't more popular. What an amazing series
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>>24950505
It's long, slow-paced and old. That's why.
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>>24950505
It was popular when it first came out. Not many series remain in the public consciousness for long, even great ones.

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HAIL, /LIT
WHAT IS THE LOVE THAT PASSETH UNDERSTANDING? ANYONE?
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>>24950166
English speakers so obsessed with BBC they have it loud and proud displayed on the spine of volume II
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>>24950215
Reaching there
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The love that dares not speak its name

The libretto is considered great poetry and drama of itself, accounted a masterpiece by many

Last week was Das Rheingold which covered the forging of the ring of power, its curse, and the jealousy and death that follows after the lust for it

This week is Die Walküre

Link to discord server if you want to keep track of threads
https://discord.gg/XhFGx57VKm
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>>24950211
What is the best way of experiencing The Ring cycle outside of seeing the opera live (while on significant mounts of MM)
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>>24950211
>muh discord
discuss here or fuck off
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What happened to Wagneranon? I liked his massive posts quoting an analysis on the Ring Cycle.
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It's really weird that I was googling Der Ring des Niebelungen like half an hour before I saw this thread, which had already been up for hours. I had not scrolled through the catalog and therefore had not subconsciously picked up the idea. I was in another thread, someone asked about something related to damming, and I wanted to google what Götterdämmerung means. Then I read on about Der Ring des Niebelungen, and I actually got the idea to try to read the libretto. Then I go into the /lit/ catalog shortly after and this thread is there. I wonder though if OP was inspired by my posting of Wilhelm Tell and Lieder in this thread:
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>>24950425
Finding a good recording you like and reading along to the libretto.

Best performances of Wagner I've seen were literally stageless, just the performers with the orchestra in the background, though there was some basic interaction between them (including a rather funny one in Siegfried where Siegfried tapped the conductor on the shoulder when the flute was fucking up his attempt to speak to the bird)

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What the FUCK was Stephen King thinking?
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>>24933848
Clearly he was thinking about kids having sex
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>>24939568
>Are you still my little girl?
good movie
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>>24936497
that's like, bdsm
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>>24939585
>It does make sense in the context of the story
No it doesn't.
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>>24946769
Fornication was considered a sin within Christendom.

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How do you learn to philosophize? I read philosophy books but i never learn to philosophize. I never learn to use those fancy words like epistomoleogoogy; i only learn what they kinda mean but i never have a sure feeling of it and have to look it up all the time.
Is philosophy only for high iq people? I feel utterly lost so much so i don't even bother to talk about it with other people.
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>>24948338
this except vedanta unironically op
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scientific hobby doesn't help, because scientists seek special cases and exceptions to prove a general rule.
A philosopher does not look for special cases, he is already baffled by the most mundane everyday observations. Fake philosophers try to imitate this by "challenging status quo". But the real thaumazein is pure and innocent perplexity, without hidden political objectives. Inb4 muh Nietzsche, muh everybody has hidden will to power subconsciously pre-selecting his new concepts. If that was the case, no original philosophies would exist. They are rare, but not inexistent.
If you aren't naturally perplexed by everyday reality, don't try to philosophize, simple as
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>>24948706
>subconsciously pre-selecting his new concepts.
Elaborate
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>>24946026
>doesn't know what a solenoid is
>a spun piece of copper wire
you are retarded
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>>24946724
>human calculator
What do you "calculate" when proving that the union of any set of open sets is open? Or that every bounded sequence of reals has a convergent subsequence? Math is the interrogation of the properties of mathematical structures using reason, which is something you (hopefully) also use when studying philosophy
>Mechanical descriptions are not philosophy
It is for most employed philosophers, but you are partially right. If you aren't really interested in logic or rigor you can safely ignore it, much like how the rest of the world can safely ignore you

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This is horrifying. Is there a better way than Christianity to transcend this?
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>>24948845
there's a very thin delusion protecting us from total destruction
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>>24950150
So he has nothing to say
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>>24948191
>Girard
WHOOPS!
It's another episode of unoriginal thieving leftist French faggot steals 200yr old ideas and repackages them as new using different names an terms!!

Sad!

Keep it up, last week we had a Le Bon plagiarist with S&S, this week you unironically post Girard. I'm happy to do this with the entire French left, who are an embarrassment!
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>>24948862
>real philosophy
No such thing.
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>>24950501
No one is praising the author, only the ideas presented are being referred to, who cares if the author isn't original

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Erich Heckel edition
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Why am I hungry all the time now.
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>>24950234
I think the purpose of most of these popular games is decision relief. Do this quest, grind this coin, save le world. This works well for aimless people with no responsibilities or who avoid responsibilities, since having clear choices relieves anxiety about the future. Once you get an actual life tho its like, that need no longer needs to be met. Same reason youre not jerking off every day either. Ultimately, games like these all should be thrown into the junkyard, in terms of how they affect the psyche they are just glorified slot machines.
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>>24950398
What was the last book you read before you dropped out of junior high?
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>>24950507
Fiction or non-fiction?
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>>24950406
crazy story. but honesty, what a great way to go. rather than like every other old forgotten hollywood veteran dying to a dull heart attack and two page obit; a murder mystery. go out with a headline.

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Everything you call "living" is just a massive cope to disguise the fact that your biology is desperately trying to return to the inorganic state it crawled out of. You think you have a will to power or life goals but that's just a mask for the will to nothingness. You are essentially a complicated rock that unfortunately gained consciousness and is now taking a circuitous path back to being a rock. The science is clear that the inanimate existed before us and the only real drive is to restore that silence, meaning your entire existence is just a temporary glitchy detour toward the grave. The universe is indifferent, cosmic extinction is guaranteed, and when the heat death of the universe hits it will be like none of this ever happened, so stop deluding yourself that this life is anything other than a long pointless walk back to zero.
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>>24949278
well, stab him then!
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This type of view is far too backwards looking. It ignores that several genuine miracles have occurred, and a materialist can grant these as miracles either in the statistical sense or in the more profound sense of the inherent potentiality of matter in motion (or dialectical materialism if you will), which are the “emergence” of the existence of matter in the first place (this can be either temporal or the eternal miracle of existence’s inherent existence, its existential inertia), the coalescence of matter into complex inorganic systems, the emergence of organic self-replicating systems, the emergence of consciousness out of those organic self-replicating systems and the possibility of natural systems to consciously intervene in the unfolding of phenomena (labor and History), and the (rapid) emergence of more and more complex social formations out of these systems, each step is genuinely unthinkable on the basis of prior systems, matter is imminently developing ever more unthinkable systems of organisation. Mao talked about how after epochs of human development, communism itself would end, the human itself would be superseded, that this self-supersession is inherent to human conduct and all matter, that the universe, all reality is a non-teleological non-subject developing itself immanently into Something, a not-yet that isn’t yet even implicit. What is it? Idk more interesting than nihilism.
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>>24949184
>the only real drive
You are talking about one of the two major drives according to Freud: Thanatos. Todestrieb. The death drive. But there's also Eros, lebenstriebe or the life drive. Maybe life isn't that perfectly dialectical, but why would it so unidimensional?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive
>The universe is indifferent
This is meaningless. The universe is an indifferent thing? What do you mean by that? I know thanks to context that you mean that we are not important in the greater scheme of things, but saying "the universe is [adjective of psychological origin]" is essentially metaphorical, there is no clear, primary meaning to this arrange of subject and predicate.
Indifference is a psychological quality. Using a moral instead of psychological example, is Saturn inherently evil? You could say Saturn is indifferent as in outside of moral considerations, but can Saturn or the universe be psychologically indifferent? What do you mean by that? Are you implying some sort of anthropomorphised pantheism?
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>>24949210
what about the simplest argument.

>live good.
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>>24949184
>The science is clear that the inanimate existed before us and the only real drive is to restore that silence, meaning your entire existence is just a temporary glitchy detour toward the grave.
But that's wrong, for the universe has become more complex from what it started as: a stupid homogenous point of vacuum energy. The replication of genes is due to the principle of least action, for the energy of gene-containing lifeforms to disintegrate (die, decompose, etc) is less than that of reproduction. As long as the sun shines the earth, thermally expanding all the necessary mechanical parts of organisms and accelerating mixing rates of compounds, organisms are forced to live. Predators, natural disasters, lack of resources, and genetic damage are all things to adapt against. Humanity has already conquered the first three threats, mainly by adapting Western culture. Get with the program, anon.

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>Moby-Dick;
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>or, The Whale
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>The Anatomy of Melancholy
:)
>What it is: With all the Kinds, Causes, Symptomes, Prognostickes, and Several Cures of it. In Three Maine Partitions with their several Sections, Members, and Subsections. Philosophically, Medicinally, Historically, Opened and Cut Up
:D
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>>24949066
>Whale, I guess that's the story of my moby-dick!
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I don't think Moby's dick is that big honestly


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