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Why is it that so many fantasy writers make their evil cults unjoinable by anyone with a functioning brain cell? Like why would you worship Orcus, whose goal is omnicide? Why would you worship Tzeentch if he’s probably gonna screw YOU over as part of his grand plan?

What makes it so bizarre to me is that, firstly, it’s not like they need to be so off-putting to be evil. Orcus is a demon of undeath, his followers want to turn their enemies into the undead. Tzeentch wants the world to be in a constant cycle of chaos, his followers are gonna be masterminding world wars.

Secondly, it’s not like we don’t have plenty of examples of real-world evil cults. A lot of cults in the West don’t follow Super-Duper-Mega-Murder Satan, but are fucked-up offshoots of Christianity. Historically, goetia was practiced by people who would’ve still called themselves Christians, while committing rituals to summon and get boons from demons. Plenty of human cultures used to sacrifice humans to their gods, not to summon them to kill everyone or some shit, but to honor and/or appease them.

Like to use another example from Warhammer, I think Nurgle and Khorne present more “approachable” evil cults. Nurgle is toxic positivity, and his love will take all the pain away. Khorne is wrapped up in enough language about honor to lure people in.

Like to rework an evil deity, let’s pick Lamashtu. Instead of “We love ugliness and miscarriages and also you get to die in childbirth”, the cult targets vulnerable young women and lures them in with divine feminine language (“You have the power to bear and raise great beasts”), while promising the young men of monstrous races frustrated living among humans that what they’re scorned for is what makes them powerful (and also they get to have sex with pretty girls).
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>>97207018
>Nobody wants to see himself evil
Plenty of theistic satanists openly acknowledge themselves to be evil and revel in it. I've personally met some.
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>>97160877
The thing about the Chaos gods is that they are supposed to embody all aspects of their particular theme not just the negatives.

Like Khorne is the god of violence and destruction but he is also the god of martial prowess and warrior's honor, heck I'm not sure if it's still canon but it used to be that his followers killing defenseless innocents would piss off Khorne because there was no glory or skill in it.

Slaanesh is the god of extreme degeneracy but he is also the god of things like romance so for example if some kindly couple in the universe falls in love and has a family he also draws strength from it despite it being an act of pure wholesomeness and him ostensibly being an "evil" god.

Nurgle is the god not just of death and disease but rebirth and the cycle of life in general.

Tzeentch is probably the least outright "bad" of the Chaos gods because he is simply the god of knowledge and wisdom and planning. Not to mention that unlike Khorne, who was born during a period of lots of wars amongst mankind, or Nurgle, who was born during the time of plague, or Slaanesh, who was born due to the Eldar having a galaxy-wide murder-orgy, Tzeentch was born during a time of great scientific advancement in human civilization which is relatively benign compared to the other three.
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>>97173471
People in real life find solace in all sorts of petty distractions, when you're dirt poor but still have food, shelter, and community, it's not that odd you wouldn't care that some people live better lives than you. Also, those people are distant and very rare, it's far more likely that the most powerful person you'll meet on a regular basis is a town elder or magistrate, or maybe a cleric at a local church. You might not ever even see adventurers pass by, and if you do it's more likely to be weak ones that are above a commoner but not absurdly so.

I could see more of outlook like yours being a thing for superhero settings, where elite villains spring up every week and can only be thwarted by a powerful hero like Superman or Spiderman or whatever. Not only do people frequently come into contact with the supernaturally gifted, media coverage shoves it in their face every day. It's extremely hard to feel like you're in control of your destiny when the people of the city are just the playthings of demigods.
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>>97160964
Fpbp
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>>97168286
>, don't listen to any bullshit about improving yourself or changing anything... just wallow with us, let us lick your wounds!
so blackpillers are irl Nurgle cultists ?

Why do lawful "good" players get upset when you remind them that all demons are objectively evil, and therefore must be purged?
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I would have literally never even thought about it if you just had me kill a bunch of evil demons. DOOM is a best-seller every time without fail.

It's your endless fucking insistence that no there is NOTHING wrong with killing THESE demons they are ALL evil and just animals that makes people try and see good in them. The more you frantically shout all demons are evil always instead of just having it be a background fact that you don't need to worry about, the more it makes me go the author doth protest to much, methinks.
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>>97214727

It's because buddist demons are more "human stuck at a bad job" than christian "fallen angels" ones
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>>97214217
They don't. The ones who get mad are those who can't accept objective alignment i.e. They really hated Frieren.
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>>97214217
>Its an "all RPGs exist in a comprehensive and internally consistent setting that just happens to conform to my assumptions and preferences" episode

Call me the buddha because if you met me on the road it'd be better to just fucking kill me.
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>>97215740
I hated Frieren because we go from a fun slice of life show to tournament arc #37474 where a bunch of cardboard cutouts show off their basic bitch superpowers

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Thread 449: Ikemen Gabwelius Edition

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>>97210460
I'm almost certain Zakusa was supposed to be a Psyqualia user and bridge the gap between D and other eras.
D has way too many characters that just so happen to have "Psyqualia but not really" for it to be a coincidence
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>>97209138
and VGDD1 never did get D set 13 in the end...
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>>97211237
>Psyqualia
thats urara and halona
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>>97209306
Divinez is really just better than Dress in every way. Dress is an absolute fever dream of rushed, underbaked, and forgotten ideas. It's almost like an unfinished prototype, of which Divinez is the final product.
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Previously: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96936967/

When last we met, we made G.E.T.S. (Generally Entertaining Team-built System). Thus far, it seems to be a fairly minimalist system.

Now, we shall make our first setting for this system.

If your proposed idea gets doubles, it is canonized. Any canon characters, worldbuilding, themes, et cetera can be modified (but not outright contradicted or discarded) by triples, quadruples, et cetera.

Let us continue.
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>>97210350
It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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How do we know when to stop posting?
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World topology is a mobius strip.
If you go around it you get reversed in body and soul and become evil. (You'll think everyone else is reversed and evil.)
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This setting lacks the law of conservation of energy.

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Thanquol was the hero of the Gotrek and Felix books
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>>97214793
It was a Priest of Sotek, I might have mistook him for Tenenhuain
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>>97213742
I don't think that "person" plays games themselves
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>>97208100
I bet Gotrek is a little slut and likes to power bottom for ah who gives a shit
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>>97213742
Nope, they're /v/
No one cares about TOW but vidya secondaries

Valakut edition

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>News & Reminders
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>Useful Links
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>TQ
Have you played the brawl challenge, and if so, which commander?
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now this is the hard-hitting content I subscribed for
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bro threw :skull:
another canada w
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god fucking dammit
I have
>4 starting town
>4 multiversal passage
>4 watery grave
>2 swamp
>2 gloomlake verge
only 2 lands in the whole deck don't make black on turn 1 and it would still work if I had a hand with siren or stormchaser since opal would make the black
I was even on the play, this is turn 0, I ALMOST had the turn 1 dream

I kept it, opponent left as soon as leyline of the void touched the table
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>>97215231
https://youtu.be/mYuF3T7s7XY
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>Brawl lets me believe my shitty, poorly built deck is optimal because it has a high winrate
>in reality I am insulated from good decks due to deck rating
thank you wotc for making a system that benefits me specifically.

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Horny bondage edition

>Previous
>>97192171

>Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0
>Mediafire
https://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD
>Mega I
https://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw
>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)
https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ
>WoD5 Mega
https://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA

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>>97215361
Read the TF rules in "The Inquisition" second edition and Dark Ages: Inquisition, both have a blurb saying that the rules for TF contained in the book are the official core rules for TF and that Tf as it appears in other splats is shorthand like how vampires have gifts in the back of a WTA book.
The full rules for TF give you extra dice to all your Virtue pools and a resource(faith points for modern inquisitors and conviction for DA inquisitors) that you can spend for automatic successes on virtue rolls. A vampire with even a half-decent TF score is practically immune to externally imposed bullshit that could force them to fail a humanity test. The only way a Vamp with TF can lose humanity is if they Willing Choose to defy their own faith.
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>>97215227
The exceptional success bonuses are to my eyes clearly borne out of the fact that in playtest no-one used the busted Fate bonuses to Spellcasting and I firmly believe that no playtesting was done for characters with Gnosis higher than 4.
Within those two limits, and if your players are newbies like mine are, the exceptional successes on spellcasting are rare enough that the withstand breaking isn't even relevant most of the time, at least compared to the option to recoup mana (in my game no one took Hallow at chargen, and now the cabal is scrambling to ask around for a free one to take over).

But if you have someone with even just a bit of system mastery, or somehow you group start playing with Adept level Arcana + High Gnosis + Yantra optimisation minigames, you can fairly easily break a lot of the example spells, let alone whatever creative thaumaturgy a group of experienced players can come up with. But you know what, it's at least still somewhat more restrained 1e ritual spells allowing you to basically accrue arbitrary numbers of success to stack.

Also personal note: I know it's probably better for balance and all, but both Spirit Fetishes being much more volatile (breakin automatically if the Spirit's essence equals their corpus ever, even if the spirit doesn't want to) and Spirit 5 ability to create new spirits being hard-capped at Rank 2 were huge bummers to me, but I get the why.

But I could go on about things that I think 2e Awakening (and CofD in general compared to 1e nWoD) has made lamer from 1e, and frankly the improvements to the spellcasting engine, while not something unsubstantial, are not equal worth having to deal with lamer Proximi rules, lamer Prelacies, DaveB canonizing his pet villain or wasting wordcount referencing a 1e SAS that no one has ever played.
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>>97215561
At the end of the day, it only takes a couple of changes to make me not hate 2e Mage casting. Off the top of my head, Just remove that and make it so Shielding isn't so all-encompassing.
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>Wraith: the Fallen
Is this one about the casualties of war?
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>>97215443
Thanks for giving me a reason to read DA material. it was cool to see Leo do something instead of being mentioned

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Jabbering Jabberwock Edition

Discussion of the Towergirls CYOA, RPG, Setting, or Video Games welcome here!

Everyone is welcome.

FAQ
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>>97211615
That is pretty good

How much is Lampad able to shapeshift?
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>>97064201
She's way too fat.
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>>97211652
Rather Extensively i imagine!

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>>97211615
Now we're gettin' somewhere.
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>>97208124
I like tadpole diplomat! But i expected more of a text that addresses the weatherman myth about frogs feeling weather shifts.
Overall a nice card!

Thread #006 Dark Imperial Blood Edition

Welcome to /schreck/ where you can rp your VTM character! For all questions concerning the World of Darkness, please consult the WoDg and CoDg thread
>>97129837

Previous Thread
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Brief rules
>We have no story teller, we are acephali
>Threads are v20 based, although the night is long and full of whispers, lies, and half-truths. Decide your own canon but all will not believe you
>all nicktuku will be diablerized on sight
>all OOC discussion should be spoilered

THREAD QUESTION

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>>97214061
I think messing with any head of state is looked down upon since at least the 12th century
would give too much power to one kindred you know
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>>97210507
>Least deranged Tzimisce creation
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>>97212291
>Diablerie
So that's what it's called.
>this'd be where I reccomending pulling it on your boss
Haha I ain't even a week old. Can't I pull it on a defeated enemy of hers or something?
>>97214061
Idk I guess before the prez gets elected, or in some "Democratic Republic of" in the heart of Africa?
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How's this for a speciality? Lol
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>>97131386
>What's your favorite clan after your own?
Salubri are one of the best and without a doubt, the most wholesome clan in Kindred history. And a friendship between a deranged megalomaniac Tzimisce and a faithful, pious Christian Salubri who tries and never gives up to set his best friend on the right path is one of the most wholesome scene imaginable.
Yet another reason, why tr*meres should be exterminated and turned into furniture.

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Post amazing terrain, amazing tables, and good looking games

Rules: no slop!
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>>97213902
Uhhh anon did you not read the OP, this thread is for good terrain
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>>97212543
1. take 1.5-2 inch nails, preferably one with large flat heads
2. glue them onto a base with the tip facing upwards using super glue
3.spray paint the entire thing brown
4. grab some hot glue or gel super glue, apply a generous amount to the tip
5. stab a chunk of Woodland Scenics FOLIAGE CLUSTERS onto the nail.
6. base and seal with water/pva

Use the foliage clusters, not clump foliage. foliage clusters are large and dense, clump foliage is tiny and crumbly, a real pain in the ass to work with for this purpose.
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I wish I had the space for all of this. for the tools, the materials and the finished terrain.

right now all of my stuff is either in the way or put away in a way that I forget that i have it. and when I build something, I have to properly store it somewhere for it not to be damaged.
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I don't have sick amazing terrain, but I'm trying
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>>97193526
Man the redditors really hated this post. Weird how they keep coming to this cat website just to get mad.

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Without thinking about it, entirely subconsciously, you are trained by Pathfinder and D&D to safeguard your players. You are taught to coddle them! And when does this subconscious teaching happen? Not in ANY dungeon master resource. It happens before your first adventure, before your very first D20 roll.

It happens when you create characters.

In Pathfinder, character creation takes a ridiculous amount of time. I ran it for about six years, and I saw it take well over an hour, sometimes going up to two for new players. As a GM who understood the system inside and out, I could get it done in about a half hour.

Losing a character in a game with such a painstaking character creation process is absolutely devastating. As a GM, you wonder if that person will bother to make a new character, or if they will just leave, and if they do, who will go with them? Will you even have a game afterwards?

And enemy statblocks are the same way. You look at these massive text blocks that include three different saving throws, the type of hit dice, types and sub-types of creature, and perhaps most hilariously unnecessary, ALL SIX STATS. Who on earth looks at all that and dares think “I’ll make some monsters of my own!”

Please understand, I’m not saying nobody makes their own monsters. I’m saying that it is an undertaking to make a monster with a statblock like that. Figuring out saves, stats, and heaven forbid you want to get CR correct, good luck with testing out that garbage.
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So many GMs don’t make their own monsters. Why would you, when you have 5 bestiaries to pluck from?

You end up spending your GMing time feeling like a human calculator, balancing CR, doing 4-6 encounters per day, totaling up XP and gold. You, the GM, are left with the drudge work.

Pathfinder, and to a lesser extent 5e, treats the GM like trash. And yet they are wildly popular.

There’s systems that are so much better. Don’t want to deviate from 5e? Try Five Torches Deep, it’s a rules-lite, very deadly hack of 5e with lightning quick character creation and really fun ideas on dungeon design. Want a game that’s easy to pick up and play? Try Into the Odd, a surreal fantasy game that mixes up combat by removing to-hit rolls entirely. Want a Sci-Fi spacefaring game? Stars Without Number has a great modular system where you can customize a lot about your universe’s rules, and a ship combat system that every player I’ve run it for has fallen in love with.

Mörk Borg, OSE, Lamentations of the Flame Princess, Dark Streets and Darker Secrets, the Black Hack, the White Hack, Paranoia, Death is the New Pink.

There’s tons of great stuff out there with systems that empower GMs and engage players.

You don’t have to spend hours working with a system that doesn’t respect you.

(A lot of my points here are against Pathfinder, but 5e does all this too, just not as bad)
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>>97215768
>Five Torches Deep
>Into the Odd
>Stars Without Number
>Mork Borg
>Black Hack
oh, you're a NuSR shill
i've got my retroclones and that's all i need
good taste in paranoia though
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>>97215768
Pathfinder is unironically one of the worst systems ever made. They took the worst aspects of 3.5e, tripled down on them, and then pozzed it for good measure.
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>>97215768
>Modern game design
Pathfinder was released in 2009, bro

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Tolkien is to blame for the state of 5e and generic fantasy that you see in TTRPGs. We wouldn't have horrible big fat fantasy books, nor power fantasy / wish fulfilment, which you find in scaling levels through so-called "XP". Fantasy used to be an experimental, creative, and wild genre filled with mad imagination; now, it is all wooden and samey.
>tl;dr
Listen to this:
https://voca.ro/1Rwc7lMX0hfT
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>>97212597
so you're saying the onions smile needs to be larger?
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>>97209251
Why are you singling out Kull as a power fantasy compared to say, Conan or Steve Costigan stories?
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>>97210903
>Josh Reynolds may be the single worst published fantasy writer
Couldn't this apply to most BL writers?
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>>97212112
Only good post in the thread, because it has a cute cat attached to it

>>97212515
>woman wanting to be fucked by monsters bad
>mangae BASED because lonely zillenials want to have harems of monsters!
Hmmm
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>>97215776
Howard really hated snakes, and compared his two faced neighbors to them.

Men who make/roleplay female characters, why do you?
Why do you think it bothers /tg/ so much?

>inb4 I don't because I'm not a faggut, hurr durr
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As someone who hates these people, it's because it's always their fetish waifu. Every time.
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>>97214962
have you actually met someone like that or are you just making assumptions
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>>97215004
Met many, mostly obvious fetish plays. Go post any ad as a GM and see what kind of characters/applicants you get. It's disturbingly common.
I also played with one for a while, and was friends with him for years outside of the game too.
He played his ideal waifu, fit into the fantasy setting we were playing. It was acceptable solely because he had no off-putting fetish things (basically he was just vanilla). It was still undeniably his waifu and he got constantly teased about it without ever denying it.
I have yet to meet or see a single female character (actually played not just theoretical) that didn't fall into this category. If I did, I'd be open to changing my mind. But the pattern has been unerring thus far in my some ~12 years of playing TTRPGs.
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>>97214962
What do you mean a fetish waifu? I get wanting to make a pretty female character, does it go beyond that?
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>>97215717
I've specifically seen lolibaba and furry stuff that was unmistakably fetish related.
I didn't play with those people though; the ones I have played with (like mentioned) were just playing their idealized version of a woman but with super powers/magic/whatever matches the setting.

The Three Emperors Edition

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>Thread Question:
Do you plan any big projects for the next year already?

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>ZunTsu Gameboxes:

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>>97213557
thanks!
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>>97214596
Therefore, niggers are Russian.
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Plz help. I would actually like to start painting minis instead of gooning to long dead, and very inbred queens
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>>97215763
Fuck off, slopfag.
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Cry to a janny, faggot

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oh, yet ANOTHER JTRPG has been translated! and this one is Wuxia theme'd. This also happens to be by Group SNE (Sword World, Embryo Machine, Goblin Slayer). So yeah, was translated by the Sword World fan-translators.

where to grab:

G-Drive /drive/folders/1icyF6HmVOdeG1Z5EiFAciAHupxMrcrHG?usp=sharing
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>>97201954
It is a flaw of the OP who posted it here within minutes of the fan translation being shared in the first place, so not many have read it yet, or read it fully enough to make any such comment.
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>>97202042
yeah, part of that is me jumping the gun with that...
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>>97190751
Can we have more info?
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>>97210611
well, aside from the only other materials released fer it was a supplement that adds additional stuff to it, but the translator is missing the Scenario Collection and Replays.
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>>97198415
sometimes, it's nice for a change of pace.


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