Every so often I ask my players if there are any kinds of adventures they want to do or sorts of situations they would like to be put into to play off of. Its how I strike a balance in the group to make sure everybody gets to have their bit of fun. This time around, two different players put down 'hostage negotiation' and 'hostage crises'. But I'm having trouble coming up with a good way to do that.This is a flintlock era adventure sort of deal, no magic on the table at all so bullshitium to force a contrivance is not an option. Obviously, most of our "hostage negotiation" tropes are based around police negotiating with some gunman making demands, but I just don't see how that realistically works in this scenario since not only do modern police not exist but what kind of demands could they even make that don't even with them shot anyway? With single-shot gunpowder weapons, if there are more guys outside than inside there's very little reason not to just storm the place, but also if the demands are met the guys is never getting out of there alive anyway. Its not like he can ask for an escape helicopter and fly away, at most he gets a horse. So what occurs to me is that the hostage and hostage taker are in an unknown location and everything is being done by written correspondence, but I'm not sure how to make that particularly interesting as an adventure either. Like, what is there for the players to actually *do* in that situation? Anyone have any good ideas for how to make this work that would actually be any fun to play?
>>97362101...interesting idea. Gives them a central role in the situation and a strong investment in resolving it with something other than violence. I'd probably have to start it in media res just put them in the situation in the first place. ...what I could do is have them all roll, and the two lowest rolling members of the party are the hostages, while the higher two rollers are on the outside doing the negotiating. Makes it random which could have interesting consequences, and means that we have both an inside and outside POV on the situation. This might have potential.
>>97362015>With single-shot gunpowder weapons, if there are more guys outside than inside there's very little reason not to just storm the place... you know the main reason they take hostages is to threaten harming them right? That's the thing that prevents storming, not modern firearms. That's the entire point.
>>97362015>With single-shot gunpowder weapons, if there are more guys outside than inside there's very little reason not to just storm the placeOne of the presumptions of hostage taking is that someone gives a fuck about the hostages. If anything flintlocks would seem to favour the hostage takers, who can't reliably be taken out at a distance.
>>97362227Yes. But with pre-modern firearms you run into a bottleneck of action.Lets say that I have taken three hostages. I have one flintlock pistol. If two guys kick in the front door to rescue the hostages or assault me, how do you think this plays out? Even if I prioritize shooting the hostages instead of protecting myself from harm, I have one bullet. At most, one hostage dies. Its just not possible for me to reload and kill another in time, and the act of doing so as removed my ability to protect myself from the people that just kicked in the door. This is a far cry from a modern hostage situation, where a single man with a handgun can easily kill all three hostages in a matter of seconds. With the lower tech level firearms, I simply represent less of a threat to the hostages in a time crunch. I'd have to resort to a knife or something to get the job done faster than it takes to reload a muzzle-loaded weapon. It makes storming the place and saving most of the hostages, though probably not all of them, a reliably viable strategy. Which is exactly the sort of risk vs reward that players would often consider acceptable. Remember, IRL combat is where most people find that they lose control of the situation but in a tabletop game combat is where players have the MOST control of the situation.
>>97362289Anon, you stab the hostages. This is not complicated. Taking various nobles or whoever as hostages has been a thing long before modern firearms. It is funny you seem to miss the entire restraint part of the hostage taking situation. Your game is going to be a mess.
Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to first-decade, Gygaxian D&D, its faithful modern clones, and content created for use with them. Later editions (2e and newer) should be discussed elsewhere. Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to Dungeons & Dragons played as intended by its creators from 1974 to 1983 — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching metaplots and a greater emphasis on player agency. If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about: we'll be happy to help you get started. We also have two excellent beginner guides created by Anons with feedback from the thread that you can check for help: >n00b DM's Guidehttps://pastebin.com/EVvt6P0B>n00b Player's Handbookhttps://pastebin.com/XALkXkV0 >Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128 >Need a starter dungeon? Here's a curated collection:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97360858And may you have twice the number
>>97360863>I'm not asking about how you would run a game, I'm asking about what you as a human and a DM prefer to runOdd distinction. By and large, DMs run what they prefer to run. Why DM, otherwise?
>>97360863>'m asking about what you as a human and a DM prefer to run, something that is either generally shallow yet broad, or narrow yet deepI'm with the other anon that this is a very odd and artificial distinction. Everything starts off narrow and shallow when you begin prep, and you fill things out from there. They grow less shallow or less narrow as needs be, and you'll eventually have a wide variety of environments in a range of depth and width.There's no hard line between one and the other. And I don't give enough of a shit about the meta structure of it to have a preference one way or the other as a player or as a DM. I'm less interested in whether dungeon A is shallow/wide while B is deep/narrow than I am that Dungeon A might have humanoid factions players can interact with, but most of the treasure is art-based stuff that will require time and men to remove and carry off, while dungeon B has easily ported coins, but is full of nasty undead. That's a more interesting kind of distinction, on both sides of the screen.
>>97358681The TMNT ruleset is based off the traveler one, so it is not the worst conversion in the world. I just was mainly gonna use it for inspiration for mutations and see if it had any relevant charts.
>>97360851>>97360858>Gygax (pbuh)>Gary (pbuh)Did you know there's a Unicode character for the formula? ﷺ
What's your theory for why all the talent is leaving Leder Games?What’s your worst/best board game break up story?
>>97361996The luck can get bad, of course, just like it can with any game that involves dice. I'm the resident dice hater, and somehow I find the randomness in Eclipse almost entirely acceptable. Even if you get a shit start, there are usually plays you can make. But you should go into it knowing that you might have to play from behind through no fault of your own.Just thinking of house ruling something to do with discovery tiles, either to remove the most egregious offenders or to allow a redraw if someone draws total garbage.>TI4I haven't played enough of TI4 to truly get into the political shenanigans, so I can't give an opinion worth a shit, but that's what you would get it for. If you want a "euro" that is centered all around space combat, you should get Eclipse.
>>97362048>Can the things you discover in a system nudge change your strategy?Absolutely. If you discover a bunch of science planets, you can take it easy on early combat and go hard on teching up. If you find a free frigate laying around while exploring, that may fuel your early expansion, or give you space to sit back and just build orbitals. If you find an ancient ship part, that might influence what kinds of ships you make or how you design them. Nudge is maybe even too soft a word. It's more like riding the wave of what you are able to find through exploration, what tech tiles are available, and what your opponents are doing. Your overall strategy may not necessarily change that much, but your capabilities will and you must act accordingly.
>>97361767Thank you for you work, anon. May you live forever.
>>97362116>I'm the resident dice hater, and somehow I find the randomness in Eclipse almost entirely acceptable.Nta, but just out of curiosity, what is your general opinion on Summoner Wars? In my experience, the dice in that game are somewhat polarizing, however I love them
>>97362116I dunno much about what a 'euro' entails, other than it's usually called 'dry' and methodical vs colourful and random.All I was looking for is epic scenarios, important choices and situations you'd talk about for a long time after
>world's first 100% vibes based tabletop setting
>>97350485It's truly a sad thing to see such a nice project get constantly harassed by politics left and right
>>97350517I actually enjoy the lore video when I’m building models. It helps me amped up for painting/playing. I get why they draw the wrong crowd though. GW could make a killing if they made another spinoff called “Battle For Terra” or something. Make it all on a folding game board with premade, even more miniature models/sets. Cull the army list down to Ultramarines, Black Templar, Deathwatch, Chaos Marines (general), Tyranids and Orks. Then have simple higher/lower rollfest rules with very little modifications for the room temperature IQ LARPsquad. Throw in some token characters from the video game and wa la.
>>97357495800 years before ww1 when the crusaders took Jerusalem. The Templars performed some kind of ritual in the city (unclear if it was a mistake or something else) and it opened a gate to hell. Humanity has been fighting a war against hell for the past 800 years.>but the templar order was created after the crusadeThe devs got pissed when someone pointed this out.
>>97357424>Is it just culture war autism or am I missing some other factors?Mostly the first part but also just some straight up autism where people will dislike the use of aesthetic without whatever parts make it better for them mixed in with some very aggressive modern marketing and brand identity discord stuff, coming in at the point blanchitsu just peaked and became popular enough to get pushback. Its the shark jump of the 28 scene. Its bad all round.
Grimclusive slop
Friends on the Other Side edition>Previous>>97339727>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>WoD5 Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>STV content foldershttps://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97361966>Changeling but could one of them be pullling a Season of the Witch-adjacent ploy?Fae are bullshit and can do whatever you need them to. And if they can't they can make a Hobgoblin who can. And if tgey can't make a Hobgoblin they can go to a Market and hire one.All while still being killable by mundane guns, brawn and good ol' thinkin'.
>>97361997I kind of envision some of their divisions as a mix between Syndicate/Progenitors and Null Mysteriis working on a more global scale. I think they could gel nicely with Network Zero and Null with the characters of Network Zero doing recon and interviewing the conscious monsters, Null Mysteriis doing more direct research and having Cherion commercialize the results in a serious way.I don't know, I think there's potential in going that flavor than pure Pentex and mad science.
>>97362017I had a feeling it might fit but I didn't want to mix it up with Dreaming unecessarily. I did consider a Beast also but this had an air of malicious mischief to it that made me think Changelings might be a better fit.>>97362037The cases have largely been pretty public, even if the actual putting-down of the Slashers has been a bit more subdued, so I don't think it'd be a stretch for there to be disgusting merchandising off of it. Could a combination of both work, with people putting out merchandise and making money off the misery, and some Fae leeching off the side of it? Or perhaps donning a mask themselves and hiding amongst teenagers and children to cause some earnest and more immediate fear?>>97362064That's good to hear. I don't want to push my players too far into the occult that they start having to diverge their skillset too wildly away from what they currently enjoy doing, which just so happens to involve mundane guns, brawn and a little bit of good ol' thinkin'.
>>97362089A Changeling doesn't always need a personal reason to do stuff. Kids dressing up as real horrific monsters instead of pretend ones might be a plan to gain the favour of Autumn by keeping real monsters in the mind of mortals.Or the fae does it because it's funny to fuck with the Hunters, bonus points if it's ment as a reward but backfires completly.A deranged autumn courtier might even have helped create the Slashers to get more candy by trick-or-treating. Or to hold up their end of an arcane bargain with a higher power.As for merchandising, that is a great idea. Money is a good motivator for Changelings and Hobgoblins. Creating masks and costumes from the mind altering substances of the Hedge could even have funny side effects like random transformations or bouts of insanity.
>>97360763I mean...go be a Red Talon? Eat humans to your heart's content.
Necromancy Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online:https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97360750>>97360755Oh look just like the last thread.
bad copypaste is bad and you should feel badDamn that makes me feel nostalgic just by writing those ancient words
>>97360201I agree with >>97360221Play them as vanilla pilgrims until game 3-4, at which point you should have enough ducats to get a shrine every exploration (on average)Make sure your first has hallowed anchorite so you can promote it as early as possibleWith your new arsenal also you might want to have more of your troops be ranged than usual, to preserve them until your second shrine
>>97360393Incendiary grenade on a submachine gun model is redundant given they both serve the same role and you can only use one of the two per turn
>>97360804>>97361491>>97361531Wow you try to offer constructive criticism and you get insulted! (Doesn't matter that what I posted is made up, you NEED to hold my opinions as important)
>Everyone• PLEASE BUMP THE THREAD IF IT REACHES PAGE 10!>Requesters:• Provide good, detailed references (pictures are better than verbal descriptions), so the artists know what you're looking for.• If you have a WIP quote the Anchor Post, and attach the WIP so your Drawfag can find you.• Do not reply to other deliveries with a request that the artist fill your request next. This is called 'piggybacking'.• Do not make multiple requests in the same thread and do not serially request multiple characters after a delivery. Suggesting several concepts for artists to choose from counts as making multiple requests.• If you're unsatisfied with your completed request, please wait at least one week before you re-request. If someone follows this rule, don't waste posts by complaining about it.• Stay on topic.>Drawfags and Drawfags-to-be:• Drop your tumblrs/websites/commission/etc information, but if you're dropping your commission info, please consider filling a request beforehand instead of just advertising.• Please keep AI deliveries to the /slop/ threads. This is a thread for human-made art.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97359037Nice job anon, I like how clean the lines are and how you really went with the concept.
>>97349361OR here. Thanks!
>>97329407Even screenless ones are fine in my experience, just harder to get used to.Don get me rong, i still prefer a screen
>>97215274So is it sci fy, magic scy fi ala warhammer40k or something like that, fantasy masquarading as si fi, or sifi masquatading as magicWhat gamesystem/setting?
>>97361977Mage: the Ascension/awakening is the system. It's a little bit difficult to say really, every mage filters their magic through a paradigm, a way they see magic and its place in reality as a whole. If you get too flippant with magic around people who haven't been awoken then reality will try to assert itself and backlash on you.The closest is probably magic masquerading as sci-fi, as my mage's paradigm is based around engineering and science (arc weapons instead of casting 'lightning Bolt's). It also helps he's incredibly intelligent, allowing some of his gadgets to actually mechanically function without magic.Filtering magic through the lens of technology and nearish future sci-fi concepts let's him get away with more than most, as the consensus of reality has been exposed to enough of those concepts to believe they could exist. I have a much easier time getting around paradox backlash than say, our art streamer mage who paints things into reality or our daoist who uses 'chi' manipulation and various talismans.
It's Da PDF Share Thread!Get ready to stuff your hard drive like it's 2025!STEP 0:<----- That image is not a PDF, it's an image, at least for now. Check the 4plebs link below to find the PDF.PLEASE READ DA FAQ BEFORE REQUESTING OR SHARING.It will answer 99% of your questions about this thread. If you haven't read it, we will know.STEP 1:Please exhibit good manners. Threads start sliding off the board after a certain number of posts. More posts wasted on being rude means fewer posts available for sharing.STEP 2:Request, share, stay awesome!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97361928Seconding
>>97347874Requesting 13 Screams Beneath The Withering Sky
Looking for Rune Warriors: A Fantasy Tabletop Skirmish Game and Rune party
Wondering if anyone has the GI Joe Sourcebook for Hawk’s Personnel Files? Thank you kindly in advance either way.
Looking for The Drifter solo rpg by Ken Kennedyand Barbarian Prince stuff if possible
Emotional support elf editionDiscuss elves.Post elves.Love elves.All elf lore, game stories art and any else that's elfy is all appreciated.Thread question: To what extent do elves share their wisdom and experience with other races to help them emotionally and psychologically?previous thread: >>97278632
>>97358494So you are ignoring the words of a 'Vocal minority' in favor of 'literally nobody'?
I like AI art.
>>97361607I do not. Why don't you spent time in ai thread then?
>>97361607Post it on /slop/
>>97361607So fuck off and generate your own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekU3T9M3E9IFrenopolis is a gamified tetragrammaton clothed in the memetic zeitgeist.This thread is for discussion and development logging.It's easiest to learn with YGO/MTG experience.It's not for sale, but you can request a free physical 2-player 90 card set by following the instructions in the description of this video:https://youtu.be/oPoBUoagO_k(No payment or identifying info required)Playmats have arrived and will be sent out with the playtesting kits. Anyone who already received a set with the shipping label name "Current Resident" should be receiving one by 1/10/26. If your shipping label was not sent to "Current Resident", email or DM me on telegram so I can send you one. Tabletop Simulator Demo Implementation:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97357899>So OP, how long HAVE you been iterating this card game?around 5 years. i started it shortly after my exposure to the culture war, which was around 2019. the game at this point shares very little with the first iteration. the main thing it still shares is that it uses memes for pictures, but that's about it. that's also another reason the name has changed, because it's a different game. i have also changed a lot over those 5 years, unrecognizably in some areas. i'd hope that most people who been on this ride since normie season ended 2015ish (w/ trump) have also changed a lot.
>>97354182>You are mad somebody is making somethingI've made my stance pretty clear, I'm here to observe the insanity of OP, and to make him prove his game is getting the traction it has according to the posts of people getting boxes. >I showed you the screenshot, Wilbur.Who? You're not trying to imply I'm some hater you know irl, are you? That'd be so sad and hilarious at the same time.>Ugly boy.Man, calling out OP's bullshit really is making you mad. Now in addition to my belief that literally no one wants this game (you included according to later posts lol), he also got his mom to come defend him on the Finnish ice fishing forum.Stay seething, I'll keep dropping in when I'm bored and need a chuckle.
>>97361130lmao,,,, color tree samefagging as his own shill to create engagement ,,,, kektop!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6pT_Td5yrE&t=74s
>>97360865That's neat; decent production value for an amateur project test kit.>>97360900Did the first iterations develop in such a way that revealed inherent structural weaknesses?I've been building my own base system for skirmish games for a while, but because I suck at maths, finding the sweet spot for bonuses and balancing stats for asymmetrical point values has been very hit and miss.And I throw out and bring back dice curves on alternating weeks, because I am indecisive about how swingy I want it.On a level, it's good to never be satisfied with your own work; but I feel like my portfolio would look less empty if I had shat out a few flawed iterations to completion first; even if I were less than happy with the results.So next time I hack something together that *kinda* works I'mma run with it for a while, instead of abandoning it in the woods like a baby with a hare lip.
>>97282550That's dumb
It is probably not too controversial to say that the art of modern rulebooks is made with female representation in mind.These women are predominantly filling important roles, such as archmages, military officers, or nobles.But how come there is barely any art that shows them in peril, or at a clear disadvantage? Regardless of their status.There is no shortage of men in peril.Neither in classic nor in modern art.
>>97302765I dont like when women are getting hurt so thats a positive for me.
>>97357504>>97358051Let me know if you ever find some sort of point you want to make.>>97360816That's the main idea of putting women in danger in this sort of fiction. You are eager to prevent the harm. It's a ticking clock. Think of it as "the terrorists have planted a suitcase nuke in NYC and set it to go off at midnight because they hate our freedom", but instead it's "the cultists are going to rape and eat the princess at midnight to invoke their savage demon god".
>>97360904Let me know if you do, dumbass nigger
>>97362058>goldfishbrain.exeRight here, bucko >>97348939
>doesn't make a pointLOL
How true is this?
>>97362166I only play poker
Surely the 'difficulty' of any competitive game is just the skill level of your opponent? The rules of chess are fairly simple, but being the best chess player in the world is extremely difficult.
>What is Exalted?An epic high-flying role-playing game about reborn god-heroes in a world that turned on them.Start here:http://theonyxpath.com/category/worlds/exalted/>That sounds cool, how can I get into it?Read the 3e core book (link below). For mechanics of the old edition, play this tutorial:http://mengtzu.github.io/exalted/sakuya.htmlIt’ll get you familiar with most of the mechanics.>Gosh that was fun. How do I find a group?Roll20 and the Game Finder General here on /tg/. good luck>Resources for Third Edition>3E Core and Splatshttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/b54o6teut3fx6/Exalted_3eComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97361123The game IS in the wrong, though, because white wolf contrarianism is shit. I will not stick up for "what's written" if it's bad
>>97361763A lot of the time people complain about stuff that is neither bad nor contrarian, though, merely not in line with excpectations based on memes and Internet arguments.
>>97361795>what is essential to exalted?>SLS.>Contrarianism.>More than that.>From what I see, the best of Exalted is rooted in profound dissatisfaction and oftentimes anger at the way most RPGs are written. You know the economy section of the 3e DMG, with the ridiculously simple try at simulating a fantasy economy?>I am convinced Manacle & Coin was a reaction against that and other things like it. "Other RPGs have stupid, fake economies, so Exalted will have a real one." A real one that actually ends up being much more gameable than the stupid fake ones, as it happens.>Exalted is about a lot of things, but one of the things it's about is smart people trying to show everyone else how it's really done.>In the case of 1st edition it was largely a success. I am not convinced 2nd edition accomplishes it very well
>>97361123Exalted naming convention is obtuse at times, which makes remembering characters names hard.We can have a group of siblings named, Prruzzli Tjjug, Fo’c’sle Fixation and Jude.
>>97359128Yes, but it doesn't explain the push and the glazing.
Yu-Gi-Oh! General #592"how the fuck is this deck still meta" EditionPrevious thread: >>97236634Most Yu-Gi-Oh! discussion encouraged. Post OC, write dumb fanfics with bad CaC in them, duel each other, have fun, etc.>Yu-Gi-Oh! Online PlayAutomated Sims:●EDOPro website: https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●EDOPro: https://discord.gg/ygopro-percy●YGO Omega: https://discord.gg/duelistsunite●Dueling Nexus: https://duelingnexus.com/●Master Duel: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850/YuGiOh_Master_Duel/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
what rarity is this jauzah? the whole card is shiny not only the art, but it's not starlight it's insane that ygo doesn't have colored rarity symbols like mtg. I've seen stores not even notice cards are QCR
>>97361757Ultra Rare
>>97361757It's an Ultra. Collector's rares are similar but have textured borders that in my opinion look kinda like fingerprints.
>>97361757UR (ultra rare). The only other rarity it is in the set is CR (collector rare). Here's an example of a CR vs UR.The colored foil ridge art+extras and rainbow foil (looks white/silver here) name for CR and the UR is gold name and rainbow foil art.>rarity like mtgThat idea kind of breaks down in usefulness once you have cards that appear in multiple rarites in the same set. Such as this example where there's a UR and CR, or the OCG's entire product structure where cards very often come in multiple rarities. So it's not going to do much to help.While the idea sounds reasonable at first but the games are structured too different and it doesn't translate.
>>97362152Quick addendum, looked it up immediately after because I almost forgot they put starlight rares in these sets now too alongside the CRs. But there is still no QCRs in the set.
RIFTS! The science fantasy world of post-apoc cyborgs, wizards, dragons, ninjas, giant mecha, super-nazis, robot ninjas, vampires, underwater kingdoms, remnant human supertech civilizations and everything you can imagine all rolled into one setting where interdimensional RIFTS have pierced Earth's fabric and turned it into a playground for aliens and monsters!Plus other Palladium Games about superheroes, zombies, classic fantasy, supernaturals investigation and more. Talk about:>RIFTS(tm)>Heroes Unlimited>Palladium Fantasy>Beyond the Supernatural>Dead Reign>Robotech (lol)>TMNT & Other Strangeness + After the Bomb>Splicers>Nightbane>Savage RiftsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97353752Triax 2 Fat Boy and Hell Angel seem like strict upgrades for their specialties. Taurus seems like kind of a joke but I once played a character using the chassis for the extra gun mount, putting a classic boom gun on one shoulder and the Silver Wolf particle beam on the other (presuming dual fire-linked classic boom guns is too much for it to handle).
>>97353752I think the republican glitterboy mark 3 deserves some mention as technically the worst, as its just an augmented EBA suit. So it is thus the weakest stat wise and its built in weapons are the lowest damage.>>97357148Hey! The Shadow Boys strength is market availability and savings!
>>97359347>Hey! The Shadow Boys strength is market availability and savingsBros out here making Chipwell arguments on my board hahaha
>>97357148Mutants in Orbit one always needs to cool down though. It'd be great to find a work around to that
>>97360307The mark V has unlimited flight time, and only 100 mdc less.You are talking the mark IV, which in atmosphere is cool but not as amazing as the V
