Man, why the fuck is /40kg/ such an unmitigated cancer? Why even?

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>>96499205
Look, I was just tryna talk about my HH IW wip conversions when someone asked what they'd be used for. Blame the other guy for going all reddit

>>96499225
Based and redpilled.

>>96499215
It's the most popular wargame so obviously it attracts the biggest assholes in the hobby. /40kg/ is filled with secondaries, literal schizo shitposters and tourists, barely anyone talks about the actual game. It's usually autistic arguments about lore, shitposting meltdowns and occasional modelposting. It's actually unbearable most of the time. At least it acts as a containment for the worst posters on this board, I guess.

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>>96499292
BASED.

>>96498003
How is op wrong on each point?
I agree the generals being good for tg because we’d be swamped with way too many 40k slide threads without the general. Even if /40kg/ is a mess.

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>>96497623
>"Look mate, this is going on probably longer than you are alive, so let's just skip it, k?"
>"HA! INTERNET VICTORY! And time saved, I guess?"
... I'm still satisfied with the final outcome, too, if that helps you.
This bullshit is really, really tiresome and the end result is always the same - getting even more tired with it, and then a few more years passing and you, too, realising it's a tiresome bullshit, but then it's too late to come back to the discussion that was pointless in the first place.
The bottom line is, however, always the same: WotC opened a floodgate with 3.X by actively targeting with their marketing the most dysfunctional, autistic and retarded people imaginable, and then, since 3.X drones quickly became the biggest, most concentrated group in the whole hobby (friendly historical reminder D&D was virtually dead prior 3.0 and wasn't even in top five most popular games), tho got it into their heads that they should now gatekeep from evil outsiders. And the only outsiders were them themselves, but oh well. To put it into zoomer-friendly terms: we've got culturally enriched by 3.X crowd, and late 00s and most of the 10s was them chimping out and a whole lot of newfags coming in the middle of it and trying to fit in, parroting their idiotic bullshit.
So every time I see this >>96488817 picture posted, I just chuckle about the irony of it, but then I know it's going to be 3d4+1 asshats thinking this is true.
But arguing about it is utterly pointless, since it's a fake argument, ironically made by people that are the disruptive assholes they want to gatekeep from. Add to this /tg/'s contrarianism, and here we are

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>>96498020
>All this bullshit
So from which board did you crawled from, never-game?

>>96498121
>t. played a few times and actually liked it, but too mind broken by being terminally online to admit to enjoying things, or else someone could call him cringe
I'm still glad you are coming to terms with your situation, mate. And I'm being 100% serious

>>96499034
He's got some points there. There are for some reason players who insist on minis and having "character arcs" and writing session reports and those things are either unnecessary or just so TEDIOUS
I have no idea why you would want your beer and pretzels elfgame to feel like a day at the office

>>96467515
Play 4th.
Play imperial armour scenario campaigns.

>>96489864
Damn. You're a blessing for making such a list, anon.
Now what's the best way to get people to try alternative games to GW games after making both opposing forces for said wargame?

>>96494387
>best way
i forget the saying but finding the right opponents is like half the battle in wargaming. even if you're playing GW which has a lot you want these people to be fun to play against, buddies if you will.
finding/building a community is difficult, people are a herd so it pays to have some like minded people to start with. fucking my local crew started with like 10 people playing one game then hit like 40.
also it pays to put extra work in, if you can show a lot of passion it will draw the eye and help you stand out.

But fastest way is to have social skills and consider your environment.
if you're in a more urban place with a lot of artists you could have a conversion heavy game take off if it doesn't already exist
hunt down local communities first.
if you're literally the only person, then generally have a friend who wants to play it first, people are most interested that ways. they can come by, see you having fun and want to join in.
another method is setting up a group for it, via the messaging App of your choice, set up a demo gram with your LGS (or join a club)
my local sore has a lot of AWG players, we've got people playing Saga, bolt action, forbidden psalm, and a bunch of smaller things.
there's a lot of people, i've met many of the people who play epic in my city whilst playing other games.
i always suggest skirmish first, it's lower effort, lower commitment and allows people to engage in self expression first but it really depends on where you live.

>>96497498
Personally finding people is not the hard part.
Wrangling the dopamine fucked twats is the hard part.
At least in my country we have encounter the constant issue that people simply won't show up to the events/games

>go to a local tournament to play some mesbg
>stellar tables packed to the brim with color and detail, and since the game is designed to work with dense terrain it doesnt interfere
>on break go look at other tables
>old world is just flat mats with maybe a single terrain piece on the entire map
>infinity is a mess of unpainted mdf kits
>40kek is just literal cardboard L shapes
>only historicals (I think it was flames of war or bolt action) have tables that look impressive
>even blood bowl tables had more effort in their scenery than 40cucks
AoS and 40k piggies are just astonishing. At least old world sloppa has the excuse of rank&flank not working with dense terrain.

>>96498860
>and the only places that sell it digitally use their own DRM readers for it.
Japanese corpos are so retarded lmao.

>>96498860
I appreciate the sheer effort to make people avoid piracy by hating the translator and everything associated with him, but it's not gonna work.

>>96498860
My only experience with it is its retarded nonsense name.

>>96498860
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WXOoFh1yPg4VKtrDNepQI4OUqdpKWv9h/view

Take on the role of a Maverick, someone who stands firm to their beliefs and stands up for the little guy, in this magically-fueled dystopia. The system uses an ingenious "black jack" style d20 for resolving Tests, and often times you'll even be rolling a pool of them depending on status effects or skills. The game also requires a couple decks of playing cards, which represent the Aur (intangible magical radiation focused into your body) and Aurite (crystalized Aur) your character may use to power spells and ma-gear effects.
There are a good deal of auxiliary systems too, such as Leisure Time (downtime between scenarios), item crafting, vehicle rules, simple & map combat rules, environmental effects and status conditions, GM tools for designing sessions and enemies, and a good deal more.

The world setting is quite detailed, with various corporate and terrorist factions, and a handful of important NPCs. The game primarily takes place in the Metropolitan Sanctuary Tiphereth, where the majority of humanity is confined after the world-shattering collapse of the Sephiroth Tree 200 years prior. As a result of magic fueling all of society, the Mages of Academia naturally became cemented as the super-elite in control of what remained of civilization.
However, beyond its magically-powered super wall, lies the Outland where Aur contamination, natural disasters, and mutants run wild. Take care to stay on top of your Aur tax to avoid being exiled from the sanctuary... Here you might also run into rogue laboratories, raiders, ruins-diving, and other high-risk ventures. You can imagine the many places an adventure could take place!


>>96499099
It's an "embargo" that will expire Dec. 6th, so make another thread in the future. Just a timed incentive to funnel support to the authors since the book only came out June 20th.

>>96498860
>X-card
>punk
lmao
Anyways, I like the aesthetic, but using both a d20 and a deck of cards might get complicated. I'd be interested to hear anyone's experience with the system myself.

>>96496575
I wonder how hard would it be to make her Mobility Armor cosplay.

>>96498666
>throw out all of the actually good-looking designs in favour of two ugly designs from 15 years ago
Die in agony.

>>96498470
Sure, here:
https://youtu.be/v-L2_ZA8e_s?si=0dTESHGcPqI8cC70
https://youtu.be/j3l4zmTbqug?si=FsPmJYnA3mjZQ-_Z
https://youtu.be/k2uGZV41Pi4?si=aAA7qD-F-pJUpR0i
https://youtu.be/qQqHljt1Uys?si=dx6dxUF5qo5m3UQR
https://youtu.be/o12rSYVxrIs?si=-PaZ_TBZRGPY_V9C

Those are the ones, there are more and everybody who is not directing you to this contents is a looser.

>>96499154
(You)

>>96499194
I miss Corvus doing these demos.

>>96495588
I'm as big of a starcraft nerd as you probably but i just don't see it
>Pirates
that faction is mostly based around airships, only has like 2 units on the ground with reavers and hellbats
>chrome guys
That could count as umojans which sure could work out but...
>UED
These are supposed to be the "elite" terrans, better higher tech gear, more trained units. since most airships are not gonna be a thing if they put the UED this is what they give them (plus mind controlled zergling fodder)
>Confederacy
This could work out as a "starcraft 1 terrans" but apparently goliaths are already in so that's not really needed
>War pigs
Mercenary faction sounds good but if you are going that route just give them to Nova as elite marines

There's a bunch of options i guess it depends how well it sells and retains attention

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>>96496146
>I'm as big of a starcraft nerd as you probably but i just don't see it
I don't think it'd be good, mind, but I don't expect the base game to be good either. I'm just pointing out they have plenty of gay little aesthetic reskins and troop choices to spin subfactions around should this thing take off

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>>96493269
You blind, bro?

>>96465572
Can I build an army of ghosts?

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So would Swarm even be a worthy snack for Nids?

>>96494439
Is the Futadom world Jump maker here? I wanna ask a question

>>96499110
officially, no.
go to /trash/ or the bunker.
you are unlikely to be able to ask relevant questions about a fetish jump on a blue board anyway.

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>>96496858
Vena a cute, but it would probably need to be a gauntlet or wait for the sequel.

>>96499156
What do you mean, I've talked to him here a few times already

>>96497188
Rwby is so Gohan that the series itself is the series Gohan

>>96492604
Having tried both I'll say that the Perry Bros tend to have better poses and details but WA stuff assembles easier.
What mech design are you printing by the way?

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>>96496463
I've found a good supported STL for a Heuschrecke mech from Warlord Games' Konflikt 47 original run, from a couple of years ago.
I scaled it up to be a bit larger to be congruent with the hex basing. A little filing/kitbashing should make it work.

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>>96496641
I've always imagined them looking like Fahrpanzers with rocking-horse legs and orangutan arms. I do like the top viewport style on the Konflikt one.

>>96498487
Ah. Yes, the Baneblade that looks suspiciously like a stormhammer.

>>96498487
GETS ABSOLUTELY DUMPED ON FOR POSTING SOLAR AUXILIARY STORMHAMMER.

>>96498147
What layer height? How long did it take?

>>96498487
>Stormhammer

Still cool though

>>96499341
Expect to get rid of baneblade poster and break the curse, you have to post a baneblade stl. He's done neither.

>>96497688
so, traditional summons like
>summon wolf pack
>summon grizzly bear
would be standard summoning spells, ofc what i reffered above doesnt come from anywhere in particular if you're asking for source.

but you'd also want some kind of spell like
>Create Summon Spell
that would let you create a creature of your own liking using templates, like the types of strikes it can do
>slashing claws
>crushing bite
>tentacle grab
>magic projectile
as well as some kind of major magical effect, a minor magical effect and a exploitable flaw to close it out.

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>>96494498
It is, but it's Rod of Wonder nonsense rather than a good idea. It's hard to make adding combatants into a sound mechanic, which is one reason D&D has never been able to get summoners or necromancers right.

>>96497973
I think he means there should be a clear difference between mindless expendable mooks and a foreign entity you are theoretically allied with.

okay
put those in your games then

>>96499052
Appreciate the sulky attitude!

>>96495132
She liked my dick better, bro. The cope rope calls to you.

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>>96495466
kill yourself bumpfag

>>96175335
Oh divine magic clearly exists, that much everyone agrees on. But nobody can fully agree on what it is or where it comes from, since religions that clearly worship different, seemingly contradictory gods can both get clerics.

Maybe the power comes from the cleric's faith rather than the gods. Maybe there's something out there giving out divine power to the faithful and dedicated regardless of the specific gods they believe. Maybe there's some higher truth that all the religions share, and the gods are just different aspects of some higher divinity doling out power to anyone who worships one of it's many forms. Maybe clerical magic has absolutely nothing to do with what god is real or not, if any.

>>96496609
Why play shitty silksong when you could be playing hades 2? You can be a girl just like you always wanted tranor.

>>96489683
get those cards anon 4-3 is almost break even anyways

am i expected to spend resources making a "yargle deck" and then just queue for it raw in regular queues to get all these event quests done?
i assumed there would be an event or something. it's really just expecting users to do all this raw?

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>>96499317
you have to understand they don't even do showcase events anymore and just sell the jap non-tranny art on the store instead

you really think you'll get an "event" where you can queue vs yargle decks for rewards? haha, NO!

silksong status: fighting the bee beast

>>96493857
The solution is yet again to be found in Tolkien.
Even a nobody can get tangled up in the larger machinations of the world.
But have some patience
My players started out as regulars at a bar for former soldiers
They did get tangled up with relevant characters but as pawns at first.
Now 6 IRL years later they’re movers and shakers, they fought alongside kings and the pope and their council of respected, they inherit positions of important orders and are tangled up in the world and its inhabitants
Never once were they super special beyond what they made of themselves.
And no this is not a super grimdark Mudcore campaign.
They just wrote their own high fantasy saga rather than inheriting a role

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>>96493857
.... ok?

>>96493868
If that suits you, then fine

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>>96494155
Two things:
1) It's a statblock, and those are always boring as fuck
2) It actively incentives players to not give a fuck
And I can predict with certainty that you are going to bring up some retardation in tune of "b-but muh friegshiet" as a counter, which means you also have a victim complex.
A character who exists solely for the sake of placeholder is always going to be boring, and that's the definition of human male fighters. It's the "I don't know, but I want to play" type of deal.
And don't worry. People do this shit with other pre-sets, too. I'd actually argue that Gimli Clone #7281 is even worse, because that's someone aware that people are going to eye-roll at their utter lack of effort, so they cover it by making their flat nothing into a flat nothing dwarf.
>b-but how does it matter
It means you don't give a fuck. And if you don't give a fuck, why are you playing? It's a suboptimal build in almost every feasible game, so it's not even about muh build autism, it's deliberately flat nothing as a character ("oh, i'm just a guy" - and it usually also means playing a self-insert, too) and it's fucking annoying how bunch of idiots think they are making some sort of political statement or owning some imaginary boogeyman, because they deliberately made flat nothing character.

>>96499146
And to continue:
I run open tables each Wednesday in the local library. Every time char-gen is part of the today's game (meaning the system is simple and/or non-complex one or char-gen is fast as fuck) and the game is fantasy (no matter how boiler-plate), and people make a human male fighter, I already know what I'm up to:
A silent Bob who will spent the next 4-6 hours scrolling on his phone under the table, paying minimal attention to the game, never engaging with the scenario and being also absent-minded during combat. They aren't going to contribute to the group, and they aren't going to engage with the game, either. If they will utter more than 100 words through all that time, it will be some off-topic or a chat during a break.
So why even showing up and taking up a slot?

>>96498382
Fall for grace is Kino.

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>>96493426
Sorry anon, didn't notice this until today.

Good GM's are typically fairly comprehensive in their posts. It goes without saying that the more detail the better. Who they're looking for, what the setting is, background. Whatever. It's usually a waste of time to try your luck on someone who could only muster maybe two paragraphs at best.

Unless the pitch was very solid I ignored most posts that didn't have a google form. If they rely solely on comments or direct messages the GM is probably going off of a first come first serve basis and it's a big waste of time. Also if there's a form, there's usually even more detail on how things are going to be in it.

That's kind of it for me honestly. Since this isn't 5E there's thankfully a lot less trash to sift through because people tend to (but not always) care more about the game and how it's run.

It will take time and you still have to be kind of lucky, but I hope you get into a game that's fun for you eventually.

>>96496516
While being a system intended to solve the ivory tower design of PF1e, it only makes it worse.
About half of the classes are just worse versions of another class, spellcasting as a whole is COMPLETELY fucked on this front (over 90% of spells are completely useless, often in deceptive ways that would trick a newer player into taking them).
Skill feats are intended to separate flavour feats from combat power ones but not only fails at that (due to the existence of things like kip up and titan wrestler) but also the rest of them end up being feat taxes for shit that you should just be able to do, like intimidate someone with a menacing glare.
There's such a deep obsession with "balance" (which actually just means that certain classes aren't allowed to have fun, because the restraints and limitations of said balance are entirely built around letting two specific classes have fun and making everyone else suffer) that several classes are completely stripped of identity and personality, having to slowly buy back a tiny fraction of the core features they would have had in earlier editions at the cost of their actual effectiveness. Ironically for a system that has kneecapped itself over a balance obsession, it's incredibly imbalanced, and it's much harder to fix that skewed balance than it is to make a curated list of player options in something like 3.5/pf1e.

In summary, it fails at almost every single one of its stated design goals. It was an attempt to make a hybrid of D&D 4e and PF1e but somehow manages to inherit only the flaws of each.
It's not so bad that I would refuse to play it if one of my friends wanted to run it for the group, but it's a real mess.

>>96498994
>spellcasting as a whole is COMPLETELY fucked
Ok, buddy.
>over 90% of spells are completely useless
Ok, buddy.
>it's incredibly imbalanced
Ok, buddy.
>because the restraints and limitations of said balance are entirely built around letting two specific classes have fun
Ok, buddy.
>In summary, it fails at almost every single one of its stated design goals.
Ok, buddy.
>It was an attempt to make a hybrid of D&D 4e and PF1e but somehow manages to inherit only the flaws of each.
Ok, buddy.

Spell Trickster should have its feats have requirements for traits (and areas) instead of affecting specific spells.
Actually just scrap the whole archetype and give a bunch of these to choose as extra feats for casters.

>>96499247
Ok, buddy.

>>96498396
As a reminder, 100% of Void Circle necromancy spells are written by Deathlords, 90% of Labyrinth Circle necromancy spells are written by Deathlords and 90% of the rest are written by First Age Solars high on the Great Curse crazy enough to undergo necromantic initiation despite their very comfortable life, with only a very small fraction being written by hekatonkhire, nephwracks, and young First Age Solars who, again, would've been crazy enough to go necromancy despite already having very comfortable lives.

Of the shadowlands circle necromancy a large portion is likely going to have been made by the Deathlords, because their is no salinan working equivalent for necromancy. You need direct tutoring and empowerment to get into it, and most of that comes from the established and exceptionally evil great powers of the Underworld who would prefer the power of necromancy be kept firmly under their control, since it's pretty specialized in fucking over and controlling their own forces.

Necromancy doesn't need to be fundamentally evil when necromancers have historically been bad enough to explain the spell list's bias.

>>96498462
Point is, Necromancy sucks and is boring and gay and lame.

>>96498478
You're not wrong, but if someone wants to homebrew spells that make it less one-note and ass I say let them, so long as balance and themes are maintained otherwise.

>>96498506
Never said otherwise. I'm all for it in fact.

>>96498396
>raise undead...

Undead can be utilitarian in application in ways that don't make the world worse - a necromancer could defend a village from bandits using corpses rather than conscripts who'll be killed horribly, zombies can be made to do physical labor to shore up shortages on the living end, and ghosts or other intelligent undead can tutor the living without horrible negative consequences. You won't get that kind of flexibility out of a blood ape.