Trench Crusade General - /trench/Let's Make A Warband Generator Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online, but are split between the website and the discord. They have all been collected here for your convenience:https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
isnt the entire appeal of trench crusade to kitbash your gw minis for this game?
>>96766693Not the entire appeal of the game, but kitbashing (using any minis, not just gw ones) is a big part of it and actively encouraged by the devs.
>>96766693>isnt the entire appeal of trench crusade to kitbash your minis for this game?Not all, but it's a lot. It means that most armies will not resemble each other, and it's kinda a treat to see.
>>96766693getting to customise your warband with its own quirks and features is a big part i reckon
>>96766693>GW minisYou lost the plot here. Giving them your money to play other games is extra sad ngl.
Trench editionPrevious Heresy: >>96747573>Legacies:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96768002I went over to the 30k EA stuff when 2.0 dropped and have been messing around with making fluffy things there since. I might also get some spessh ships for battlefleet heresy.
Does a barrage (X) weapon firing indirectly roll X+1 dice to determine scatter range or X dice to determine scatter range?Also, what happen if a blast attacks misses but the scatter die is the target symbol?
>>96768035Yeah lol. I genuinely can’t remember the last game I had of 2.0 without a contemptor/leviathan. Outside of the “obviously new army built from the launch box,” I’m seeing a lot more variety. People are running stupid and crazy lists and it’s great to see outside of the few exceptions in 2.0 like nl and ws bike lists
>>96768325X dice, and you still scatter following the arrow emboldened on the hit symbol
>>96768100>they all don't want to spam 40 tactical marines in rhinos.I wonder what put them off, do you think it was the AL spamming Fulmentarus for most of 2.0
>Player whines about not having a major role in the story>He's playing a generic human fighterHow do you deal with players like this? I let already let him get drunk and pick fights when he visits taverns, what more do martial players want?
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>>96766873>>96766916>>96766926>>96766931>>96766939>>96766936Male human fighters can have a ton of backstory and flavor. I've made a human fighter that is the son of ancient royalty for instance, and has a hint of a romantic pairing with a mysterious girl he's had a crush on ever since he met her when he was six. But even the classic "farmerboy turned soldier" male human fighter can have excellent backstories. I mean hell, look at Luke Skywalker from Star Wars.>>96767018Naw, I can confirm from playing said male human fighter, who I've given around a millennia of backstory surrounding the circumstance of his family - I've only had the story been engaged with once. I found them pretty fun to play out of battle regardless, since that's just personality and character, but once you get into a fight it's mostly just spamming the attack button.
>>96768295>Male human fighters can have a ton of backstory and flavorKey word "can"Guess what doesn't happen in 9 out of 10 cases.
>>96768295Besides, I don't give a flying fuck about backstories, I want a player who isn't sitting by the table, doing fuck all and having to be almost forced to speak up or participate. Why even occupying the spot, if you don't plan to play?
>>96768310This, what most male human fighter fags don't realize is that the stereotype "fighters are boring" doesn't come from the class. It comes from years of the most boring people you know playing fighters.I'm not even talking about a lack of backstory, because that really doesn't matter. But a total lack of attention, initiative or involvement. Mostfighterfags just exist at a table to bloat the enemy CR limit and nothing else
You ever wonder why there's so much 'church bad' stuff? Like you'd think that given how fantasy deities demonstrably exist and do indeed grant supernatural powers, there would be less basic-ass iconoclasm.
>>96755849Iconoclasm isn't against church or faith, it is against idols, condemning them all to be false. Its morality is that people who think a picture of Christ is capable of miracles is attributing the miracle to the object at least in part and not fully to Christ, etc.One suspected origin of the doctrine was from Greek Orthodox Christians who lived near the Saracens and observed the piety behind calls to not depict god or the prophet and then thought "damn my neighbors do go hard over that heirloom crucifix of theirs, they treat it as magical. Maybe that's a sin."
>>96757491and all of these are usually connected to the fantasy church, if not its leader/founder
>zoomer thinks the satanic panic wasn’t real because you couldn’t be cancelled on twitter over it How do you even engage with these people? It’s like talking to someone about before cars were invented.
>>96766179Source? The satanic panic is pretty well known by all my peers. Are you 't talking to gen alpha or the latter cohort of zoomers? Or did you just meet a genuine retard? I mean I know there's a good reason gamers used to be considered left leaning before gamergate.>t. elder zoomer
>>96768339>Go in thread>Ignore entire thread>Reply to very last post in the thread with zero context.Do you not know how a message board works?
Yu-Gi-Oh! General #582YaJo's Wild Trip EditionPrevious thread: >>96699108Most Yu-Gi-Oh! discussion encouraged. Post OC, write dumb fanfics with bad CaC in them, duel each other, have fun, etc.>Yu-Gi-Oh! Online PlayAutomated Sims:●EDOPro website: https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●EDOPro: https://discord.gg/ygopro-percy●YGO Omega: https://discord.gg/duelistsunite●Dueling Nexus: https://duelingnexus.com/●Master Duel: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850/YuGiOh_Master_Duel/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96767261>Atlantean/Mermail is a better deck than Ice Barriers so really once you put any of those cards into your deck you may as well just cut all the Ice Barriers and hard commit to the Atlanteans.Atlantean DEVOURS Genesys points. The core cards are 40 and 33 points, respectively.
>>96767307Ah, I didn't know we were talking about Genesys. Ice Barrier makes sense in that case.
I haven't messed around with any of the newer Water stuff. Is there anything among it that could work well in Gishki?
I seriously downplayed the importance of this card for a Witchcrafter kit until I got back onto the Witchcrafter grindset. It should be no surprise that a card that gives you instant access to your main deck bosses in response to getting ash'd is good, but just being able to put Haine on the field to insulate you from stuff like Imperm and Veiler while you're setting up is pretty freaking amazing. I can probably stand to make the Witchcrafter parts of my deck a lot more compact because of this card.
>>96768229>Glass Magic - Tears of LightChuunikino name
Has your party ever had an session where, you know, you just shoot the shit.'The Sea Wyvern's Wake' was basically an extended travel session, even if it did have a lot to do.
>>96759453Second this, but for me it was that the characters reflected their players in that they have no personality, hobbies, or interests outside of combat. For that particular group I learned that they were only good for dungeon crawls.
>>96759434There is a franchise called The Ark Knight that is a common place for entire sessions of discussion, debate, arguments, and musings about many subjects.
>>96759453>>96766420>our characters were fundamentally incompatible with each other.The fuck is this even supposed to mean? Other than some newfag shit it tune of "oh woe me, we didn't have a single, unified goal across the party".This is literally the whole fucking point of playing those games. If you have entire party that's single-minded and driven toward a single goal, you might unironically just play a cRPG.
>>96766583Seems self-explanatory to me>Elf: I fight for my tree>Dwarf: I fight for fuel to burn elf trees>Orc: I fight for strength to defeat dwarves>Human: I fight to get revenge on all orcs because they killed my parents>Halfling: I hate fighting>Gnome: Once I have enough cash I am funding a project to genocide halflings.Unless you're lobotomising your character to get along there's no getting along.
>>96759434I feel like "what does your character do when they have nothing to do?" is an interesting question that more players should explore, but it's not something to fill an entire session with.
>Brutus' Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDYVVpbllIREdOczg?resourcekey=0-m3LU1xaC5-PnnA0VLRfK9g>DriveAnon's Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cx7KoDkQa9qmDfJN9_CehZ0fxXEweKOu?usp=sharing>Jumpchain IRC Chathttp://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA>Ruleshttp://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn>How to Jumpchainhttp://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVDFBR2NpdG03S0U/viewComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96767045Okay a bit of morbid curiosity here but what is RSM? What the fuck is going on there?
>>96767474Not that anon, but Reverse Sexual Morality. So women are the ones that are chauvinistic and horny on main while men are the ones that are pure and demure, etc.
>>96767767Huh, in that one do men carry and give birth to the babies? Because I am not sure how that would work otherwise. I suppose if they had perfect control of their fertility it might work.
>>96766022Initially you might end up in jail because many methods to reduce mara or to maintain you sanity throughout it depend on the powers of the Abundance.
>>96767822It works by way of don't sweat the specifics, it's a horny premise for people who want sexually aggressive and perverted women.
Ooh he's a bad one when he's got his arms on edition.Previous Thread:>>96408299Check out here for useful links and a catalogue of relevant miniatures retailers:https://pastebin.com/nnNqqFLn
>>96764192Having a look at it now and considering options:Rogue Trader's ability to pull wargear cards (minus character specific) from anywhere could definitely make things interesting if you want to really tool them up in a weird way. Or just an unexpected combo. But it's also just very handy for characterful bits.The Preacher character could be quite interesting, cheap and comes with a conversion field (handy blinding effect in some cases) and a wargear card so you can probably do something cheeky with that but also just have them for utility.They get some cheap scouts which is good for just a variety of things even if they're not particularly killy being only humans. And for the general wargear list; no power fists and no power armour in general wargear is interesting but you do get shuriken pistols and catapults which are always nasty, could be given to a character. You don't get many Rogue Trader specific units, and I would want to take them and tool them up a bit for flavour, and definitely make use of the support weapons, but I think the bulk of a force would be cherry picking some bits from the Imperial Guard, Space Marine armies and agents, like grab a tooled up assault squad or some veterans with an autocannon for a really solid adaptable core unit, or maybe some stormtroopers, an assassin, that kind of thing, use a bunch of tarantulas for the heavy weapons... It's kind of difficult to think what'd work really well together with so many options on hand but there's bound to be some good ones. But also potentially a little too specialised, a lot of the army is still (unless you really lean into the Marines part) basic humans and will need some fodder to screen the specialist units. Maybe thinking of it like a guard army with a bit of extra edge/space marine allies is the key? Assuming you focus on taking all the optional Rogue Trader specific units that is. Lot of options.
MEGA link in OP's pastebin only have WD scans up too 199. Do anyone have scans past it?
>>96768156yes
>>96768156no
>>96768173>>96768186Thanks guys, very helpful.
And what does the game (system agnostic) need to do so?
>>96764781Frazetta literally sat at home painting blacked porn, I think you're reading into it a bit too much
>>96764781>put away your dice, wipe the cheetos dust off your shirt, get up from the table, hit the gym, and forget emasculating crap like dice and cheetos even exists.Gay. Fuck that.
>>96762932BX D&D
>>96762932
>>96764781>>96765427>>96765680I've run Scarlet Heroes and its been fun for pulp sword and sorcery stuff.
Work in Progress, Taco Tuesday Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96768066Yup, just needs a wash now.
>>96768066gold is fine it just needs a wash but that metal is so chalky and grainymy advice is never drybrush silver straight over black wash
>>96765530I actually have your (unpainted) model saved in my inspo folder, i think we both did a conversion of him into a chaplain at the same time
>>96767802Seeing your quick progress on such a cool model motivated me to stop procrastinating.
>You seem distracted, lieutenant, is something wrong?Also, I straightened the spears under heat but they bent back again after a while. Now with primer and paint, there is nothing that could be done right?
Empire of Mu Edition>What is this?/TG/ DEVELOPED A GAMEIT IS PLAYABLE. IT HAS BEEN PLAYED.EXPEDITION is a ~1880s era, Jules Verne-inspired retro-futurist, underground blood soaked adventurescape.It is a Skirmish wargame. Two players with their own expeditions, on a hexgrid map, explore & fight each other for victory and profit.3 versions of the rules exist, 2 of which have been playtested. The main one is 2e, to be found :>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/us7vnek39dc6k/AgarthaRulesas with maps, tokens and lore resources.>TL;DR Dochttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1LxdaGoBlJRTMuziMDupG5TeeFwNDnsIW2pfaRAcFDgA>Main Lore Doc, including links to anon-written short stories and additional lore in "Recommended..." sectionComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96766254That's about as fair as we'd get, I feel.
Having authored the Austrian material in it's first incarnation, and now seeing some of the playtest data and feedback from the thread generally, the following would be recommendations for revision to address some of the issues. GENERALLYIt seems to be acceptable to lower the silver costs for the most of the follower units, rather than buffing the stats. As was raised in a previous thread, the initial proposal was largely of a military nature, and the book could axe several units that seem superfluous. Keeping in the new additions, Academic Apostate, Anomalist, Teslakanone, etc, there can be a bit of trimming in the followers. The Unterjaeger could be axed entirely, as it was initially a riff on the Subterranean Grenzer that was part of one of the original charts. The Landwehr Infanterie would also fit in this category, as it seems to share a position with the Austro-Hungarian mystery meat that, again, appeared first. The Skoda could be axed similarly, as the thread seemed to appreciate the Teslakanone as being more appropriate and sufficiently 'Agarthan'. SPECIFICALLYThe Leyden Rifle v. Smiljan Carbine Issue. I think the Smiljan fits better in the 'weapon matrix'. The grenades seem to be critical to a more aggressive game plan, so they could be renamed if that's a concern. The Geballte-Ladung seems unnecessary. While it would historically accurate for the Austrians to eventually use something of this nature, we have the anomaly/Leyden grenades already available, plus vanilla dynamite. Serbian Sapper can be cut, as there is a generic mercenary option available that could fulfill that role. >>96695954If a profile could be made for the Maximiliana Municipal Police, it could fit quite well. Trimming down the book will help make list-building a bit less mind-wracking. The number of overlapping rules and complexities, insofar as the inbreeding/ethnicity charts are concerned, should remain, but possibilities for simplification can remain open.
>>96768145ON THE MATTER OF ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGESAn often overlooked aspect of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, aside from the pop-history 'ethnic soup' understanding of it, is it's development of an extremely competent green-water navy between 1870 and 1918. While many know the famous Austrian victory as Lissa against the Italian fleet in the Adriatic, many overlook the k.u.k Kriegsmarine's development of coastal defense ships, torpedo boats, and destroyers. If the axing of some of the units from the Austrian book prompts the development of a hole where a unit could/should be, an appropriate figure from the navy could fill it. The Austrians never formally created a Marine infantry formation, but something could be conjured up out of the Agarthan situation. Their large colony being situated on the frontage of the Dalai on the 4th could be sufficient justification. ON AUSTRIA AND THIS THREAD'S GREAT HUSK DEBATEThere seems to be some consternation regarding the scope and impact of the Ottoman husking and the necropolis event. It would be appropriate to limit the scope of the Entombing/Great Husk Crisis to something that could be contained without distracting from the great game of Agarthan colonization that is the true heart of the setting. Sorting out the 'mechanics and physics' of husking might resolve the issue. What might be manageable is attributing husking to a phenomenon like bacterial/viral infection. Something that would need to take hold in a body before it would be subject to 'rising again'. This prevents the giant, open-air graveyard that the hills and fields of the Balkans, filled after hundreds of years of war between European powers and the Ottomans, from becoming such an issue that other great powers would focus the entirety of their policy on containing the matter. If you want to scale up the danger/reach of the husking 'plague', attribute some kind of cordon sanitaire against the Turks by Austria/Russia/Britain/France/Italy/Ethiopia.
>>96768145>>96768249Such a cordon may be too close of a riff on the American PACT organization, so that sort of suggestion should be vetted by the thread. ON THE MATTER OF A TIMELINEIt should have been done quite a long time ago. While there are those that believe keeping the timeline 'open', such that narratives can be composed without being constrained by an establishing canon, it would seem that there is a history of argument in this thread and prior threads that could have been resolved by presenting a unified timeline. The detail of this timeline need not be tremendous. The appropriate sequencing of events would be more helpful than pinning certain events to given dates. Dates for critical events should be established with greater detail and accuracy that the emergence of certain trends. Annexations of territories, establishment of colonies, development of key technologies, these sorts of things should have a more specific set of dates. Philosophical movements, population growth, more nebulous/arguable trends and forces should be left more open.
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>>96761259custom cunny set killed the thread.
why be creative when you can meme?>le funny monke
>>96758283Don't play commander, but is (nonrandom) Hymn on a stick even good in a multiplayer format?>>96765112Really like Yamame. The symmetrical life loss is a nice way to make paying life matter a bit more.I think Kisume should probably go up to 4 power since there's a lot of cards that use that as a threshhold.
>>96766549When you can do it repeatedly, yeah probably.
Thread titleHow the fuck can you argue for thirty minutes over how to OPEN A DOOR
>>96766924It always depends. If it's say a high-stakes negotiation with some kind of ancient spirit or diplomat of a major army or they're working out the best route through a dungeon using a map, I'd totally get it. But if they're stuck on how to open a door that they haven't even determined is booby-trapped for an hour, there's definitely an issue that needs to be addressed.
>>96766954No, it doesn't depend. We're taking about what the OP described happening in his game.
>>96767302So we're talking about made up horse shit that never happened?
>>96764776Moments like these are a small mercy, it means my>Oh god I am SO underprepared I'm gonna have to wing it and they'll be able to tell that I'm winging itto what little I've prepared holding out for at least two sessions
>>96766753I didn’t describe it well. It was a chasm with a rope bridge over it. Rushing water could be heard down the bottom. They were talking about how to climb down because they knew the dragon lives in an underground lake. I didn’t make the dungeon it’s just Forge of Fury
The /btg/ is dead! Long live the /btg/!Inner Sphere manlet editionLast Thread: >>96744410================================>BattleTech Introductory Guide & PDFshttps://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400>Overview of the Major Factionshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houseshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clanshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powers>Rookie GuidesComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96768176>no HGR backflipperLame.
How much does a merc command make? Say it's a company of mechs.
>>96768202Whatever is left after paying fuel,repairs, pilots, staff, supplies, bribes, etc...
>>96768191That's at the secret afterparty for certified members of the Hunch Bunch.
>>96768202Minimum wage. Its in the lore.
What do you look for when buying dice? Coolness factor, edgyness, functionality? What's the coolest dice you own? The shittiest.
>>96761971Different sets for different systems. Two sets of D&D dice, some d10s for UA or White Wolf, d6s for Shadowrun, GURPS, Feng Shui and some goofy dice for DCC.
>>96764647Nice combo, the white also helps balance it out.>Scatter dieI’ve got one too in my main dice pile
>>96757582Readability.
>>96764175they look great
>>96763287Idk depending on the army you play having dice that roll the 3/4 side consistently over the 2/5 side would be really good. I think I have a couple bricks of 2/5 weighted Chessex dice that I use for Orks that make me pull off statistically improbable amounts of 5+ shots and invulns/fnps. And at the numbers I roll them it'd only take me a month or so to get 1000 rolls.
