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Hey voyagers,
/trv/ is a slow board, so don't expect immediate responses. CHECK THE CATALOG – you might find threads already discussing topics you're interested in.

Before asking for suggestions, tell /trv/ about your:
>Budget
>Interests
>Level of understanding of the local language(s)
This makes it easier to give quality advice. Of course, keep your posts travel related.

For all other matters:
General culture questions >>>/int/
Politics discussion >>>/pol/
Transportation discussion >>>/n/
Outdoors-related discussion >>>/out/


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GENERAL INFO:
https://pastebin.com/yR1SAr3s

Note: Discussions of prostitution or sex tourism are not permitted on /trv/.

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Discuss everything related to Thailand travel here. LARPers not welcome in this thread. Pics or it didn't happen.

Regarding high trust societies: show me another country where a flimsy net is considered adequate protection against theft for a restaurant located next to a busy boulevard in the big city. You can't.

No rangeban at this hotel, fuck yeah!
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There are dozens of other places you can bring your kids in Thailand, so why choose Pattaya main strip? I will never understand these eurotsrd bumblers wandering around looking bewildered in the evening.

What did they think they were getting? Who tricked them?
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>>2728970
Pattaya is Family Friendly you chud
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>>2728897
>ask in the general don't make your own thread!
> general is full of 70iq animals whose entire life goal revolves around getting their dick wet and are about as smart and useful as niggers
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>>2728999
You love it fanboy. Come on down to pattaya city where the touts are mean and the girls are shittayyy PLEASE PLEASE TAKE ME HOOOOooOooMe yAaaa yeaaaauhhh
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Prachin Buri is a sedate provincial city of high culture. People are haughty here; one could call them Thai supremacists. One restaurant made me write my order in Thai script on a pad; the restaurant owner evidently approved, said "thank you very much, you come back soon". Everyone else refuses to speak a word of English. Challenge accepted!
>>2728999
Sorry anon, I don't do islands/beaches.

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What's the most disgusting thing you've eaten abroad? For me, it was 童子蛋 (virgin boy eggs) in Zhejiang, China. There, it is considered a delicacy to eat eggs that have been hard boiled in boy's urine. Similar to a tea egg but much more salty and smellu. Disgusting, I know, but "when in Rome..." as they say lol
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>>2727514
There's no such thing as too much cheese, you lactose-intolerant nonwhite
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>>2726767
ive had pizza everywhere worth getting it and the way they do it in argentina is the best imo
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>>2722843
Deep-fried insects in Thailand and crocodile pizza in Cambodia. They were both in tourist hot-spots and they sort of market it knowingly to western normies like myself as a "once in a life-time / when in Rome" type of thing. The crocodile meat was pretty tasteless, the cheese and sauce over-powered it. The deep-fried insects - at the first bite you get a mouth full of oil and it tastes like any other fast food, then after a second or two an unpleasant after-taste develops, I am not sure how I would describe it. Its not terrible but not good either. You do it once and cross it off the bucket list, if you are so inclined
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>>2727589
Detroit style pizza mogs
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>>2722843
>this thread again
you need new material mate

I wanna travel. How to travel? I wanna start small like a weekend vacation somewhere in Europe at first but I don't wanna be scammed by travel agencies who inflate their prices or try to get you to spend more on booking or end up wasting money on a place that I will hate and just spend all my time in my hotell room and fuck hostels. Pls help and ask questions
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>>2728932
just use booking.com or some other 3rd party website and then DYOR and make a travel itinerary based on what interests you and what you wanna see and do.
shrimple.
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https://en.wikivoyage.org/
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decide on a location. first and foremost you should confirm that wherever you want to go doesn't have any restrictions for people coming from your country. if you're going from first world country to first world country, 99% of the time you should have no issues, but if, say, you're an american going to china, you'll need a VISA. you'll also need to make sure the country you're going to actually has shit you want to see and do, and having a rough itinerary at this point is never a bad idea.

then book a flight, there are hundreds of third party aggregators you can use for this. you can also reserve tickets directly from an airline's website, and in some cases you can even get a better deal or perks this way

book a hotel in the city (or cities) where you plan to stay - preferably somewhere centrally located - for the intended dates that you'll be in the foreign country

flesh out the rest of your itinerary and if necessary arrange for transportation if you intend to go somewhere where you might have difficulty reaching by taxi, bus, or train

wait

it's that simple
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>>2728932
familiarize yourself with potential snags or delays caused by visas (on-arrival or embassy) & connecting flights, process of exchanging currencies, locations of currency vendors, associated fees & rates (buying vs selling), atm withdrawals (FX midmarket rate vs your banks rate), which banks offer no FX, atm, or cashback fees. be aware of best practices wrt documentation - keeping multiple copies of your passport & visa stamp in paper & electronic format (email to yourself. and keep an alternate email for use with dodgy WIFI. you may also want to utilize a VPN), emergency cash, how might family western union you money. you'll need to know about sim cards (usa not compatible with eu). be prepared to overpay on at least your first day as you grow accustom to local prices - what might seem cheap may, in fact, be a ripoff. know cost of transport to & from airport - do they use grab, uber, train, taxi (always use meter & negotiate upfront)? is it even possible to use ridesharing for airport pickup or must you move some distance away? have fun anon, its an adventure. oh and get an english-target language dictionary.

>>2728988
>there are hundreds of third party aggregators you can use for this
>you can also reserve tickets directly from an airline's website
just know that third-party offer no recompense whatsoever in the case of a missed flight, change of plans, or even allow itinerary modification. IF A RATE IS CHEAP, THEN ITS CHEAP FOR A REASON; LIKELY NO CANCELLATION POLICY. for these reasons booking direct with the airline is advantageous.

>>2728988
>wait. it's that simple.
that's the hard part anon. dealing with the bullshit as you countdown to departure (D-DAY)...
>i'm not going to fight them, i'm going to transcend them...
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>>2728932
anon, have you ever seen the film "The Talented Mr. Ripley" or "The Beach"? you can be inspired to overcome whatever reluctance or doubts you possess to travel.

Next /twg/ meetup will be held in Barcade in Taipei sometime in November.
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>>2728613
How easy is it to rent a monthly apartment with kitchen? I think I'd like to cook my own meals there, cheap Taiwanese eats don't hit the spot and nightly hotels cost too much ($22/night averaged last visit)
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Is this typhoon gonna disappear like the last one?
>picrel
windy nanliao harbor
>>2728664
>cook your own meals
ngmi, but just buy an electric cooktop
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>>2728664
Yes but not in Taipei
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>>2728617
Hsinchu isn't boring, you are.

>>2728670
This one looks like it's gonna be huge. In 6 years this is the only one I've been remotely "concerned" about.

>>2728084
lol you sound like a total fag, but you are right. Hanging out at Maji Square or the riverside plaza at a picnic table with stuff we bring does sound more fun.
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i'm calling an emergency meeting of /twg/ council at the peak of 玉山 at 8pm TONIGHT be there or be square attendance is mandatory

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Halloween in Japan edition

ー How do I travel by public transportation? ー
Use Google Maps within cities, install the Jorudan or Navitime app for intercity travel

ー Dude, what should I see in ________? ー
https://www.wikivoyage.org/
https://www.japan-guide.com/
https://www.jnto.go.jp/
>Solid general guides - sights, sample itineraries, pre-travel considerations, etc
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1fmfaySQHmojbRGKWCwRecq6Ln1Bb2Xdh&ll=35.67928012473078%2C139.68638283648374&z=12
*You should probably check on google if a place is still in business before you plan a whole trip around it*

ーJR Passー
JR Rail Pass is it worth it? Since JR has adjusted the prices for the pass, not really anymore, unless you want to travel by train very extensively. You can plug in your itinerary in the links below and compare prices to the JR Pass.

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>>2728875
Boris Stalingrad?
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>>2728974
How many bodies are you planning to dismember?
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>>2728978
I might go to a Bikkuri Donkey, or I may skip dinner and lay in bed for the rest of the night.
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>>2728996
Mohammed Constantinople
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>waiting for train
>see couple
>they clueless
>ask if train I’m going on go to ueno
>tell them it does
>it doesn’t
>get off my stop and they go away

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Is it a good time to go?
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>>2728912
It's a country where everything works by peer pressure, so someone willfully ignoring all that and deliberately being a nuisance is still almost inconceivable to them.
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>>2728963
>peer pressure
Only ever works on the natives
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Why do white incels cry about 100 indians and blacks in japan while importing tens of millions of those same people and housing them in luxury hotels for free?
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>>2728885
a few videos of the same guy does not a trend make. stop spreading racism for no reason. japanese themselves do dances in public all the time. places like harajuku are famous for this.
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>>2728885
It's just stories you aren't going to see any chimping out. Every nog is with a fat white woman and a thin Asian woman handler. They travel in threes and get mocked by another group yall hate, the Chinese, who are also harmless

what is your favorite us state and city/general area?
for me, gotta be california and san fran. it's the most pleasing city i have found so far. my top 5:
>1. san francisco california
>2. finger lakes new york
>3. flagstaff prescott arizona
>4. greater miami florida
>5. seattle washington
when you add everything up, is there any place more aesthetic than these in america? since every city is a shithole these clearly seem to be the least shit. like what city would you want to represent america even though america is dogshit? what are the gems. you must look at it objectively, compared with the rest of the country i believe these 5 mog the rest by far
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Washington or Oregon probably
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>>2725663
san francisco in the 90's was peak. Nowadays its a dumpster like New York City
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>>2728517
>fake bitches on the west coast being nice (not even posting the original map)
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE C*LIFORNIAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5pMy0qqg0s
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>>2725663
Been to LA recently, must be fun to be rich there. as a wagie, not that much.
Been to Miami Beach a few times, again, more fun to be rich there, but even on vacay a great place.
New Orleans is probably my favorite place in the US I have been. I was also very positively surprised by Nashville.
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I visited san fransisco last weekend. the sightseeing is pleasant, and all the unique townhouses are cool. but there is alot of traffic there, and the downtown area is dead. Hardly any stores open, workers on strike pounding metal drums and screaming through megaphones, and yeah, the fent junkies.

i would say denver colorado is one of the best all around places here in the US. city is relatively clean, and the national parks throughout colorado are incredible.

as anyone spent time in/around san diego?

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East Asian culture proliferated from China down to Korea to Japan. Just look at the geography

This means that Japanese culture is simply just a shitty imitation of korean culture which is just a shitty imitation of Chinese culture

The reason why you find Japanese culture more appealing than Korean and Chinese is because Japanese culture is specifically crafted to appease to white tourists. There is nothing ancient about its culture. It has changed throughout modernity to appeal to low iq retards. Meanwhile Chinese culture and Korean culture are less accessible to the average whites for this reason
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>>2728689
China can't make tourism any easier. Imagine the average Western normie tourist seeing China firsthand and not through a heavily edited TikTok reel. The internet there alone is reason enough for normies to choose countries like South Korea, Japan, or Taiwan instead
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>>2728689
Foreigners not being allowed in cheap hotels in China is the biggest catch for me. Seems China doesn't want SEA tier budget travelers.
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clean it up jannies
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i'll give you that china is better than japan in terms of culture, appeal, shit to do, etc. but korea? absolutely not lol. koreans were literally mud farmers before the war.
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>>2728683
All asians are soulless bugs npcs that should have been nuked into oblivion by now

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I know this is /trv/ but I want to talk about the opposite: not traveling. Anyone else here who has traveled extensively in the past but now is just fed up with it and just wants to stay home?
This is different for everyone of course, if can also be complicated and not be so much just about the act of traveling itself but also worldviews of oneself and whether things and destinations are actually still worth the effort.
I don't want to be like "oh I've seen it all" because the world is so vast that even with quite some mileage under the belt I've probably seen less than a tenth of a percent of this planet. But I feel that it's simply not really worth it anymore. Things and people have become, for a lack of better words, less comfy. Especially since 2020 things just don't feel the same anymore. The spontaneousness is gone. There's this blandness.... it's hard to explain. Long story short I just think the world has become a less fun place.
Staying at home has become the more attractive option to me. I live in a safe country, not going anywhere is cheap, and it's just nice, easy, and quiet this way.
What are your experiences, anon? Are you travel fatigued? Do you find yourself to be more staying at home than previously? What has caused it for you?
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>>2728795
yea i agree with this anon. 12 months of working with nothing to look forward, not a chance in hell of getting your pecker played with, and it will renew your enthusiasm for travel. im getting older and fear for my future so im probably gonna have to resign to being a two week faggot. i also tapped out early last trip because i overestimated the novelty remaining relative to my desperation to go.

I feel sullen to resign myself to being a two week faggot, but i think its the best option for me at this juncture of life
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I've been not-traveling since January 2023. The problem is that I still want to travel. I just don't know where I want to go. More specifically, there are many places I want to go, but I'm having a hell of a lot of trouble narrowing it down.

On the bright side, I have a lot more money in my bank account than I usually do.
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>>2728783
I've been to about 70 countries and spent most of my 20s abroad. I can't speak for anyone else, but the novelty sure wore off for me. I still like to go new places and am excited for the small handful of trips my wife and I have planned for the coming year, but I no longer have much desire to be constantly on the move.

I don't think the world has become more "bland" or less "comfy," but I did reach a point where every new place I went reminded me of somewhere I'd already been. At the same time, I also know I'll be able to appreciate travel now that it's been a couple years since I've been anywhere new.
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The effort of travel is what makes it "worth it" to experience a snippet of life in many different places. Choose the easiest way for everything and you're bound to feel unfulfilled as your wallet gets drained faster than you like.

Personally, I'd go nuts sitting idle in my small town apartment all winter, with no car and no work, no desire to waste money on stupid toys or hobbies either. If I'm not working, I have to be on the move. Mobility is one of the four fundamental life needs in my view. Buddhist monks travel so much the train cars here have a special section reserved for them. The contemplative life is not sedentary by default.
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>>2728882
it's all the same shit with a different skin on top for the most part yea. especially once it comes to developed countries.

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Is it actually worth visiting this country or is it just being shilled on Instagram?
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>>2728558
his doctor wife is quite attractive
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>>2728380
what does that sign say shandong?
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>>2696934
Manletbros...It's even over in China
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>>2728312
Chinese RMB actually held its ground even as china has been cutting way faster. One issue they have is they have too much capacity to manufacture but not enough demand because youth unemployment is so high.
>>2728313
Hopefully bars are fun.
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China is great, only problem is if you come from a western shithole like Australia or Canada or the US you won't want to leave after having healthy food, clean streets and lack of vibrant diversity

Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
>also known as /sqt/ (Stupid Questions Thread)

For your quick one-off questions that pertain to travel.

Long or convoluted questions should get their own thread.

Questions about popular destinations should be asked in any active thread about them.

Previous thread: >>2705061
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>>2728861
Picrel is a real location, by the way. It's an Austrian village that was known as Fucking until 2021. Now it's known as Fugging.
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Just booked 4 days in Zurich throughout December, I just have a few questions as I have done no research at all
>Do I stay in the city for 4 days
>Explore the city for a day or two then go outside the city for 2 days
>Do I spend 2 days in Zurich then catch a train to Geneva then fly out of there?
>Is Switzerland really that expensive? I have money but I don't want to be paying 50 euro per meal, just asking out of curiosity
I think I am leaving to avoid Geneva is just do some day trips to the Alps? Also has anyone been to Liechtenstein, what did you think?

Do you prefer clamshell or traditional for a personal item backpack while traveling?
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How to pack.
step 1 : Lay out everything you think you will need on top of the bed.
step 2: Cut that in half.
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Fuck personal items. A good quality 40L backpack is the best for solo zero planning zero checked luggage trips to busy metro areas. You don't want zippers or straps failing on you in the middle of a trip. You want something you can break apart if needed in a few minutes if size is ever an issue. Carry a small reserve material bag for this stuffed inside the 40L. It can be used for overflow or for day roaming after dropping off the 40. It's unlikely you will have any issues since a 40L fits in even the smallest storage compartments with a little tetris. Anything rigid is a problem. The only downside is something heavy on your back but it's good exercise if you have the strength and energy. Also a backpack is easier to deal with on the million flights of stairs, streets, public transport. Dump it in a small coin locker in a civilized country and you are free of it until checkin. Another benefit is easy access to everything inside compared to traditional luggage. Can pull out a sweater in a minute anywhere.
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>>2727745
they make backpacks with wheels too
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>>2728847
true but I just personally hate dragging shit on the floor. It tickles my autism wrong
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>>2727745
Just check your luggage $20 to $50 fee is worth it as a cheap luxury on flight day

>inb4 wah wah wah I have to wait for it 5 minutes at the carousel

/ind/ - India

Hi /trv/. I want to nail an Indian woman. Where is the best place for a westerner to do this?
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Canada

What kind of wisdom or experience can you have from traveling that you can't get just from reading about traveling or watching youtube videos online?
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>>2728929
fuck off
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>>2728887
Same as watching other people have sex is nothing like having sex yourself. Unfortunately, screen addiction is so strong in some that they are unable to experience anything without looking at it on a screen. Saw an Asian douche on the train yesterday who had to record literally everything he looked at, that was the only way he could engage with his surroundings.
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>>2728955
>Saw an Asian douche on the train yesterday
There are a ton of these faggots in Thailand. Recording themselves and everything around them constantly, doing everything. It's actually pitiful.
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None. It's just fun to travel.
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>>2728887
same difference as reading from a map to walking it


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