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Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources:

How to Draw: An /ic/ Guide
Additional Guides and References

And don't forget to HEED THE RULES.

if you had the power to force the whole of /ic/ to read one book in its ENTIRETY, which one would it be and why?
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>>7832545
fun with a pencil was exactly what it said on the tin; i enjoyed it when i was a teenager, and loomis' dated humor and positive attitude felt genuine throughout the entirety of it and kept me from hating my flawed work too much.
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>>7832858
I have the second edition and have only seen that PDF. I did the exercises in gouache and with the CMYK sliders in Clip Studio. What more instruction do you need? You don't need to exactly do every exercise, you pick what suits your interest.

>>7832888
I have a hard copy of the book and have seen the PDF. It's impossible to tell what he's even talking about in the reproductions of the paintings he's mentioned or many references he makes. He states far too many of his opinions as facts and a lot of it isn't actionable unless you were studying in the academy at the time. Out of that context, most of it is useless or opinions that have a 50% chance of meaning anything to you.

I have the cheap Dover print of it but I'd recommend reading the Gurney blog over the book.
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>>7832948
>I have a hard copy of the book and have seen the PDF
I also have the hard copy and Practice and Science of Drawing is littered with bookmars, it's so useful. Not only it contains general advice on composing and balancing a picture it also talks about practical advice on how to do a drawing, both mass and line drawing. It's literally indispensable, the reproductions are just there to guide you. That paired with the oil painting book of his are the ultimate starting guide that will drage you through /beg/ and /int/ phases and then will be useful some more after you get bogged down later. I don't see why would you shun a fantastic resource for some dino-fucker businessman's blog

>>7832948
>He states far too many of his opinions as fact
he's a fucking art instructor
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>>7832948
>>7832971
pyw
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>>7832971
>That paired with the oil painting book of his are the ultimate starting guide that will drage you through /beg/ and /int/ phases
No one has ever progressed from /beg/ by doing this

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This thread is designed to be a space for women, by women. Fujos, Yumejos, and OC stacies welcome.
If you are not a XX chromosome woman, do not post in this thread. Not looking for male opinions, male art, etc.


Rules:
>the males must be attractive
>women must be drawn with the female-gaze in mind.
>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.
>If you want female advice on "how do I draw x" then go to /beg/. Nobody gives a fuck.
>No male yurifags, no faceless dudes, no femboy, no shota/ loli, no futa, no derailing thread. Nothing created to appeal to the male gaze. Thank you.
>If it does not serve women, it does not belong here.
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>>7830000
QUADS OF TRUTH
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>>7771501

Wip, please help me with this composition
and whatever other critiques too
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>>7832348

mb, didn't mean to quote
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>>7832348
heres my take on it, feel free to only use whatever is helpful. this is a super sexy zoro by the way, i love him. i hope to see this when its finished
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>>7829730
it lets yumejos post our self-insert ship art so it's good in my book

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Did Ruan Jia fall off?
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>>7832875
Feng Wei's workflow looks more like a standard digital process to me by way of building up opacity, he's got some of the color shifting that is so prevalent in Chinese artists but he doesn't come across as classically informed as RJ but this is just based on immediate observation so I might be wrong

>There was maybe another chink that did, but I can't recall.
The other person you recall might be Fenghua Zhong. These guys were the big Chinese digital artists back in the day, came out of nowhere and scared the shit out of everybody in the up-and-coming concept art scene
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stfu retards
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>>7831458
>Wings, upper body and lower body seems to be separate entities, there's no connection between them
>the background has zero effect on the scene
>roots have no relation to anything in the scene
>low-contrast monster looking like he's from a separate painting
There's no cohesion between parts, as somebody else mentioned, it looks constructed, but I'd say even a step removed from a photoshoot. These pieces probably look awesome cropped by themselves, but when you put them together they don't relate to each other at all. Where is the strong spotlight coming from? Why isn't it lighting the roots in the back? Why are the wings that are on their own plane compared to the upper body not lit with the same spotlight as the body? Why are the moon and the red clouds not casting and reflected light on anything?

All of this and that semi transparent piece of cloth just looks plain ugly, actual /beg/ levels of rendering, what the fuck.
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>>7832614
>there's no other artist that does it
Craig Mullins
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>>7832958
>Craig Mullins
ha..haha...HAHAHAHAH LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LMFAO

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you guys know where i can find good references?
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>>7832950
Get a mirror. Draw what you see.
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>>7832950
tell ur mom dad grandma grandpa to get naked
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>>7827523
>>7823259
>>7829543
>>7763542
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The next time you find either a photo of someone or a piece of art that makes you go "damn that looks good", save it and draw it later.
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>>7832950
Tell your little sister to wear micro bikini and pose.

The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread:>>7813024

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
https://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/
Making Comics

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>>7832323
Just do both no? You don't need a super fleshed out script, you can work on an outline and a storyboard at the same time. Do the parts of your story that are jumping out to you, fill in the blanks later.
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/mmg/ anons who draw porn: How many of you have also had sex (and therefore have first hand source material in your mind)? No, this is not a question making fun of anybody. Genuinely asking out of curiosity.
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>>7832120
>Main character have sex
>Instantly unrelatable and unlikable
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>>7832323
skeliton out a script and modify it as you draw
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>>7832715
You can tell most people on /ic/ in general haven't or isn't recently having sex with how robotic and performative their porn looks.

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Not a single /ic/ user can do perspective and you can't prove me wrong
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>>7832925
you get to wear a hat, eat at Denny's
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>>7832911
This looks like shit. Who drew this?
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>>7832911
Accurate perspective only matters if you are making art of cities/indoor interiors. For EVERYTHING else you just need to know that things are smaller as they recede.
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>>7832953
you can't tell difference between shits and this?
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>>7832911
I'm really good at perspective

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>dies poor
How did he manage that with his skills and art period? Seems fishy
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>>7832833
his wife didn't help, and he was a bit of a sex pest throughout his later years, but we can really only speculate
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>>7832820
He got scammed by an art youtube grifter.
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>>7832871
His biggest regret was not having time for just one more proko class
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>>7832832
they dont want you to know this trick
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He was a super dtar during his lifetime and made mad stacks. He just blew through it all making stupid investments, being sued by a number of people and buying tons of frivolous shit that interested him, so he became bankrupt near the end of his life. Having several lovers (two of which having been his live-in nannies, the last one a good 20 years younger than himself) and abandoning one in a jail for women after fucking her over didn't help either.

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Previous thread had a link you should check out before it expires, use base 64
>>7827453
Share your archives, help beggars inflate their softcore library, or just post good refs. Doesn't have to be figures - anything goes!

Sharing this
>https://gofile.io/d/iYHvbW
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>>7832761
i seen those fishers before. in sri lanka i think.
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>>7831393
>limewire
Based time traveler anon.
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I for one want the twinkiest pose model I can get to base shotas off of
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>>7832870
I hear they got the best ones at your local jail. just let 'em know your goal, and they'll be happy to help ya.
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Does anyone know her name or the name of the pack?

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Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
Naoki Saito: https://youtu.be/8jsZGeaWkhE?si=6HZIvG9Bx3y9qoHs&t=12
AnimeShijuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1717415459778347358
Krenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.


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I just started drawing. This is my 6th piece.
My bodies are nothing to write home about but they are still miles better than my faces, so I decided I'm gonna focus on the latter for a while. Hopefully I'll make some kind of improvement.
Also, first post on /ic/ ever, cheers I guess.
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>>7832251
Another try.
I had drawn the face too big in the last drawing and ended up overcompensating this time.
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>>7832251
>>7832921

Be aware of and keep in mind the side plane of the head when drawing faces at angles like this. There is usually a noticeable plane shift when the front and side of the head meet so you can't just use the same brow curve for the entirety of the cranium for these angles. Biggest symptom of this is misplacement of features like the eyes and especially ears.
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It's that time again, doodle friends!

Theme:
>Autumn, Halloween

Map special:
>NO BLUE colors allowed! Sorry caeruleaphiles

Rules:
>Claim a tile next to an existing tile
>Draw the tile and post it
>Make sure your tile aligns with the adjacent tiles
>Tile dimension: 200x200 pixels
>No AI


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>>7812713
hold on i'm getting a prescription for adderall then i'll be good to go
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>>7814012
It sounds like this anon isn't exaggerating after all
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I plan on joining this at some point, so I'll bump.
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>>7743199
claiming D5
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Claiming C7

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Do you think forcing yourself to draw when you don't feel like it is counter-productive? I'm honestly starting to think it is. Even though I'm here with tablet in hand and Krita open, I just keep on not drawing at all.
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Probably should if you want to make money but I'm ngmi so what do I know
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>>7830670
>You can't just force yourself to draw something amazing when you don't want to.

That's kind of the name of the game specifically for drawing something amazing. Talk to any professional artist and they'll tell there's times where they think they're making the most amazing thing and then they come back to it after a day or week and realize that it's pretty shit and other times where they went through the motions and was pleasantly surprised. That's in terms of amazement- what you want ultimately is consistency and you're not gonna get it if you only draw when you feel like it. You won't learn what works for you or how to navigate challenging situations if you're always waiting until you're ready.

>try to build up the desire by sketching or drawing other things until that spark appears
that's a good way to have momentum, but it's the same with saying if you don't feel like working out put on your gym clothes and start stretching... without having a gym routine, you need some form of curriculum to keep you from staring at a blank page and wasting your time. There are seemingly near infinite possibilities and artstyles so if you don't focus you won't build the momentum to get where you want to go.
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>>7830648
If you wait until you "feel like it" to do anything then you're not going to get anywhere in life. Getting good at anything means showing up even when you don't feel like it, some people have less resistance to this than others but it comes for everyone inevitably and being able to deal with it when you get tripped up is an invaluable skill in all aspects of life
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>>7830648
>Even though I'm here with tablet in hand and Krita open, I just keep on not drawing at all.
So what, are you really just staring at an empty file with pencil in hand and absolutely nothing in mind you want to draw? Or is it that your brain is already begging to reach for your phone to doomscroll? Or make shitty threads on 4chan?
There's no such thing as "not doing anything", you're always performing an action. A majority of your actions a day come from force of habit.
You should decide what it is you really want to do with your life. The feeling of "forcing" something into your life is literally that, breaking habits your brain built because it only knows to do things that's kept it alive before. Yes, the feeling sucks. Nothing you can do about it. You know what the endgoal looks like, its the artists you look up to. If you want it that bad, force the habit. If not, go do something else with your life.
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I'm always afraid of not forcing myself to draw. But now I think is best to avoid drawing if you're not in the mood for it. Drawing while uninspired could only result in uninspired, half-assed art. If the piece your working on doesn't excite you, you might as well drop it and start a new one. Literally just listen to your instincts.

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I am understanding color with this guy now. The traditional color theory never really got me
https://youtu.be/IlpD9DXiH-c
https://youtu.be/Flkao2Xa7OI
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color theory is all just made up it has no actual backing in objective reality even when you consider psychology
better to study some basic ass color science shit instead and just choose colors that you like. Maybe also learn how color works in your medium (watercolor, digital screens, gouache)
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>>7828549
Holy shit that ratio system makes a lot of sense
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Underrated thread
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>>7828551
What AI does to a person.
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>>7828667
>>7828606
Anything like this but Japan? I mean they must be doing something different with colors, right? You often can tell just from the colors, actual Japanese stuff vs faux-Japan/Chinese/Korean emulation.

Even westerners who stayed in Japan for a long time as an animator/artist/etc. produce art that looks Japanese. And if Japanese artists learned from Japanese translation of Scott Robertson, Gurney, 3Dtotal, their work still look Japanese anyways.
There must be a secret.

I’m not trolling. I’m not that anon that keeps arguing about Japan vs West.

is a it bad thing to copy other artist artworks as a beginner?
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No. I've learned art styles by just redrawing the piece and comparing for flaws or jank.
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>>7824241
no
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>>7825584
D:
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>>7824241

It's as bad as studying professional games of Chess to learn (which is to say not at all and is completely normal and expected if you're serious). Just make sure you're thinking about why the moves/lines are being made rather than just blindly copying contours and marks though.
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>>7824241
The old masters learned in this way too.

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What happened to all the concept art community that used to make content for youtube? I haven't seen anything for the past few years
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>>7832846
you're right, go away and never post her again
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>>7832846
>Why even bother drawing now that AI exists?
I'm creatively inclined and AI doesn't conform to that inclination
>If its shit, people will just ask if AI did it.
why should I care what certain other people think?
>If its good, people will be too suspicious and ask if it was done with aI.
maybe some, but again why should I care?
>What's the point?
already said it
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>>7832846
Why bother doing anything?
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>>7832846
AI's cool but it's a glorified gacha. It will never generate the specific image I have in mind.
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AI = Anal Insertion. if you use AI, you want a big, juicy cock up your ass.


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