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Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources:

How to Draw: An /ic/ Guide
Additional Guides and References

And don't forget to HEED THE RULES.

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If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?

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Any reason why my g-nib and 005 nib is bleeding so much? Is it a defect? I'm using a regular sketchbook and use printer ink. But AI told me any ink should work with dip pens.
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animal dude is doing nicely
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>>7819548
So..before you lot start egging me for not being a true /beg/ego self-fellatio posting, posting non-moe/bishoujo, mega sexualized-fetishized for a decrepit hetero gaze(for the most part), hyper and saggy oppai cyberhags wearing sexy disguises, Id like you to put down the eggs, breathe in and out and consider my requests/proposals. One, could I possibly make it to the next /beg/-/int/ cover? I no longer see it as a humiliation ritual but more of a badge of honorable dishonor..please? and Two, could I get some pointers on where the hell am I with this whole cel shading thing? Im still having issues with determining how light and shadow mingle and delimit one another. Thanks /ic/ and fuck you too, I love you.
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>>7820226
Were you raised by your grandmother by any chance?
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>>7820161
Explain?

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Previous threads: https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/151434616/#q151434616

FAQ
>How do I make a comic?
https://blambot.com/pages/comic-script-basics
https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/how-to-storyboard-basic-guides-for-aspiring-artists--cms-30962
https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/160963
https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/create-a-comic-how-to-plan-and-lay-out-your-comic--cms-24179

>What if I can’t draw?
https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/160863
https://www.archisoup.com/architecture-line-types-and-weights
https://www.creativecomicart.com/basics-part-1.html
https://www.creativebloq.com/advice/how-to-colour-comics
https://jaejohns.com/drawing-backgrounds/

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>>7820220
post a wip
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>>7820204
>you dont draw better than me
Not that we'll ever know
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>>7820210
>maybe it wont suck
Wait until bro reads the rest of the thread.
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>>7820219
>why dont you post something
Ironic.
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>>7820222
I will not humor you unless you post a comic your working on or have completed

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>You're new here, aren't you? Read the student handbook!

1. Don't post too revealing works (especially porn). If you think it's too lewd, post a censored copy here and link to Catbox (https://catbox.moe) or any off-site that hosts images for your works. You may also link back to /b/.

2. Keep it to 2D Anime/Cartoon characters only. Do not post chiId photo references (legal or otherwise), and do not talk about issues regarding real children.

3. It is recommended to let the thread reach page 7 before starting a new one.

>Lolicon Artists Directory & History of Lolicon
https://load.blogs.allthefallen.moe/

>Summer dress up catalog on how your child can dress up (or down) for success
https://online-courses.club/anatomy-of-clothing-2019-by-ron-lemen

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>>7818090
Thanks, I tried to fix the face but I gave up :p
>>7820095
>wat do?
I would draw her hand in front of her forehead doing a piece sign, but that's just my preference, that pose looks really good already.

https://files.catbox.moe/1lw1f2.png
Thoughts on this?

I'm going to sleep now...
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>>7820082
no literally nothing in your pic makes it look like its from below, it looks still straight on
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people who like lolicon have the lowest standards, this is ridiculous. you can draw like complete beg, but still get attention from pedos. unbelievable.
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>>7820207
this goes for anything, nodraw cognitive resolution caps out at low-/int/ if they have latent talent
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>>7820095
nice proportions

Ixy's whole course is basically just tracing and use reference. Really that's all you need to make it?
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>>7817466
>>7817473

Is it me or since when has norm youtube been openly racist? Like the Jake Pauls and the other really popular people you see on the front page without logging in, were they always casually dropping /pol/ takes or is it just a recent fad?
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>>7817477
Since people started calling everything unrelated to racism to be racist, it lost its meaning so no one cares anymore
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>>7817480
Including criticism of Israel? I was watching some dude go to a prison for fun and he was just being all antisemitic like it rolled off his tongue. Aren’t these people all under the same agency? It’s just strange.
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>>7812559
There are more AIsloppers that trace 100% of their "work" off aislop/stolenart than there are 3d tracefags.
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>>7811522
even if you trace 3d models, if you don't have understanding of anatomy, you don't actually understand what you are even tracing and will look wonky. It's same as tracing photos, many talentless comic artists did this during 2000s when fucking with opacity became possible widely even with personal computers. They didn't look right because they had no clue how bones and muscles are actually supposed to behave.
Just look at this >>7811937 this looks absolutely shit but it seems this anon doesn't even seem to know what he fucked up
>>7815299
funnily enough, KJG was pro reference. It's just that he himself didn't need it. Richard Williams is the one who said using reference is cheating(he didn't understand others cannot do what he does without reference). Maybe he changed his mind on it when he got older because iirc, his last short animation he did before he died had whole actors and camera unit to film references.

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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Medium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5

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>>7819841
don't listen to this anon, it worked just fine. have a nice christmas and happy new year lol
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>>7819942
you too, bud. Let me know if you have any other issues.

Merry Xmas HNY
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>>7819640
i'm having the same issue... atleast my huion works well
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>>7819968
ok chang
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Bought a Samsung s10 fe, do you guys know a case for it that won’t make my pen act retarded because of the stupid fucking magnets?

Also saw people saying buying a Wacom pen for it would make my cock bigger, I trust you degenerates more than the other bots

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Any one c my dog? Plese do best to remake is likeness!!

Is it true that furry art is where the money is?
Not even with porn exclusively, these people seem to love paying for commissions, especially the ones with fursonas
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>>7819140
it means they don't know what the person's gender is specifically. it ain't rocket science dumbass.
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>>7818675
you know what, after reading some stuff online and checking out other webcomics. Some of these furry comics that are long running, and update with a page every 1-2 weeks, are getting thousands a month.

https://bethellium.kemono.cafe/comic/c03pg71/

This guy seems to update a couple of times a month, and yet is making big bucks on Patreon. No hate on them, but yeah furries will probably shill out money more than normies. Sorta makes me wish I just started with my anthro story, but I can do that in a few years.
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>>7816763
It was like a perfect storm, because people thought "that's where the money is" it also attracted a bunch of frauds that use AI. Join any big (1000's of ppl) furry discord community (just join, dont even do anything) and eventually and inevitably some jeet bot will slide into your DM's trying to peddle AI shit. FA is full of shitters that "magically" got better during that time as well and FA isn't doing anything about it despite rules against AI.
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>>7816239
Like other anons have said AI has changed things. These days furries seem to care more about whether or not who is getting their money is actually a furry. Unless you are doing something that is better insulated against AI (3d modeling, animation, custom plush, fursuiting), potential customers will be less willing to overlook your lack of interest/investment/papertrail in the community. Any new art account is going to be scrutinized.
>>7819466
He seems to be locking official lewds behind Patreon, which seems to be the path to take.
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>>7820157
They did this to themselves. Endless boasting about how well they pay artists and now there are people who are in it just for the money... me included =]

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how are we even supposed to improve if a high iq person couldn't
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>>7820159
>high iq person couldn't
such as?
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>>7820159
brofist and such
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>>7820159
he improved though
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>>7820159
false premise, he did improve. bait thread
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>>7820159
piediepie is a great artist though. better than 99 % of /ic/

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How you guys draw NSFW all the time and concetrate on what youre doing? Ive never drawn anything erotic and Im doing my first serious attempt at it and my dick wont let me fucking concentrate, wanking before starting the drawing process helps but doing that every single time I want to work on this thing that will take me a while because Im a noob at it and Im learning the process is very fucking annoying.
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>>7809779
NEVER WANK BEFORE DRAWING HOT LEWD STUFF
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>>7819636
Shut the fuck up and let me wank in peace.
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>>7819619
In my opinion, you have to create a "safety cage" for your nsfw expression, if it really is something valuable to you. If you put it out there in mainstream platforms (Twitter, DA, Pixiv), you will risk something very important, deep and enjoyable to you to be harmed, or to be used to harm you. When you do nsfw, it may not differ much from real sex, we all put sex as a TOP1 priority above everything else, it's that important to us, and even so, after the "act" comes that post-nut downer depression. Same will happen with your nsfw art, don't make a big thing out of it, don't put it on the spotlight, so you can enjoy it whenever you want in a fresh and safe way.
You will never feel bored of desensitized as long as you allow your mind leisure time to reach out for that erotic world inside your own head. That's much like meditation as a matter of fact. Always write down your ideas, even if it is just a simple phrase, or word, or dialogue. Ideas are like dreams, If you don't write down your dreams and ideas, you will totally forget them forever.
If you make a habit out of it, your mind will build up a "creative muscle" coming up with ideas all the time for you. Someone may call this "rot-brain" but the rot-brain we see actually is about consumer rot-brain: an scroll-dooming desensitized non-entity eating trash non-stop. A creative brain is the opposite of a "rot-brain". keep your brain alive and sexy and you will be a happy fella forever.
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>>7819658
I agree, don't give up your creativity to insecure senpai's 10 incher within you, or he'll corrupt you and turn you into a social media starved cock sleeve.
Sometimes I think about that memorization exercise where you visualize some kind of fancy library for storing new information, for creativity to bloom, you can give yourself a place and time to cultivate it, unrestricted of prejudice or expectation. For a creative hub to exist in your mind, I'd evolve the initial idea, as if you were story boarding a doujin, you add more layers to it, for creating OCs this works pretty well as you give them some sort of personality. Just be careful of having a sense for what is appealing or interesting to pursue, as brainstorming gives you a lot of scenarios, there's a chance for a lot of shitty ideas to appear, but that's part of the creative process and something necessary to come close to your preferences.
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You know , this is something Im curious about as I feel it happens to me often despite being able to 'horny my way through the process' I find it particularly difficult to not go past the point of gooning no return when I start laying down the dialogues.

Im not sure why is it that I can simply focus enough and do all my linework, all my shading backgrounds and actors, all the storyboarding , even toying with the general themes in my head about what is happening as the story moves forward but for SOME DAMN REASON the second I start placing all those sex noise SFXs and dirty talking and even those transitional explanatory texts(which Im conscious is likely not appealing to another reader because of how much it burdens the pages composition) is not just the actual action happening but the dialogues that get me..sometimes, funny that huh?.

Im not complaining though, I still enjoy those momentary hiccups , if anything they make a bumpy road a lot more stimulating..overtly so. Just have to wait for my post nut clarity to fade and my refractory period to reset and Im good as new. In fact, in that post nut state I can go back to tasks Ive postponed(usually backgrounds) and I can finish them with relative ease. So do the dialogues get you too? not at all?

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Anybody have a good course on DESIGNING anime characters?
Not drawing, not modeling, but coming up with the design (interesting clothes, interesting color palette, hair, etc)
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>>7820071
I'm not creative, but maybe creativity is something I can learn from a course - Begtuber McClickbait says so, after all. It must be in a book or a video somewhere. If it isn't in a book or a video somewhere, then I'm all out of ideas and I wasted my time on this. Maybe if pay this enormous faggot with no original ideas himself money the creativity will eventually materialize. I sure don't want to have to actually think hard and long about what inspires me, so this is my best bet.
I think the thought process goes something like that.
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online-courses.club
just search character design
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Hitting the thread with a completely serious response
To get better at character designer you COULD reach for some courses, Hidari's is good to learn to space out elements, balance out colors and the like, but you need to know what your character is going to be for, and I'm gonna have to hit you with the media literacy meme for that. Most artists of all kinds do not know the actual mechanics behind what makes their own character designs interesting but you'll want to look at the emerging patterns between them regardless, since they landed on those patterns for a reason.
You'll have to consume more of the media you want to make character designs for to actually figure out what works, and you want to look at whatever surrounds your character to make them look cohesive. So you want to actually decide what kind of setting you want in general as well.
Alternatively, just copy some of the bullshit from Genshin, it's all slop and people eat it up.
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>>7813381
Just copy shit. 90% of concept art is just photobashing. It's kind of ridiculous if you think about it. It's literally just plagiarism with extra steps.
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>>7820071
Becahss those kind of guy who say "what i need to do guys to be artist" exist in many numbeers. The thing is those guys never want to start they make many thread asking for information on skilll because tgey obsese with "collecting skill" or "collecting information" but they never use it like obsessed sith preparedness and nevee become artist.

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If you are a beginner, please use the /beg/ general.
>>>/ic/beg

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 2000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

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>suddenly don't want to draw halfway
how to fix this? it keeps happening everytime I draw
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can you tell who this is
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>>7819789
a bad sly?
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>>7819789
It looks like fat Stallone

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>Link: https://dad.gallery
>Discord: You must have at least 14 submissions on DAD to join. Message vastian0988 on Discord for an invite.
>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.
>Today's OP Banner Art from: kedskaput ( https://dad.gallery/submissions/387667)

Rules:
>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)
>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT
>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission
>No loli or shota porn
>Miss a day and womp womp, you're back to zero, but just keep going!
>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!
>Have fun!

Go and comment on each other's artwork; dads love attention!

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>>7820096
Why did you poo in the tub? Was it an accident? Do you have rectal cancer? Just had anal?
>you did say AMA
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>>7819836
Embedded virus do not download
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>>7820130
It was an accident but I could have prevented it, at the same time though my hole is loose as fuck so it was a split second decision and I let loose
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tierlist
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>>7820180
old list while other dads make one

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Post iconic artworks from /ic/
Hardmode: No merc_wips
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>>7818514
and soon you will be too with 100x less humanity and soul because you're a zoomer
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>>7818529
Loomis is the biggest beg trap ever made.
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>>7818819
if jesus gave you a fishing pole and you choked yourself with it, it's a you problem
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someone have the one with the titans?
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>>7818320
wish ic still got threads like that

The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread:>>7805079

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
https://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/
Making Comics

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>>7819201
cool page!
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>>7819314
Mangaplus has moderation? The third place on their monthly awards is a literal botted unintelligible AI slop. No way they care about that.
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>>7820050
nice job, that was fast
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>>7819633
>even though my comic isn't meant to be pornographic.
Well the one thing i learned is that even people who don't intend to make pornographic works can at times make something pornographic unintentionally, like a subconscious thing.
But i will give you the benefit of the doubt. What's your manga Anon? I'll give it a look and see how SFW or NSFW it is.


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