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This is a literal combat ship.
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>>64633674
Can the drone choppers be used as a mini AWACS? Or can they fire based off targetting info from other assets?
>>64633681
No I was serious. Low crew requirements and a surprisingly low price are good reasons to keep the program going in some way
>>64633684
Boomer FUD, anon detailed the fixes here
>>64633612
A big part of the appeal with the Indy is its a known known now, any new ship design will likely have a buggy first ship or two, or worse.. Like freedom
They should at least build enough new Indy's to fully retire those
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>>64633741
>as a mini AWACS
no
drone missile cueing is in the most infant of stages at this time
no such sensor / targeting pod has been developed, so it will be around a decade before any such capability will be operationally fielded by a Navy heli drone

>>64633699
I don't quite understand what you're trying to say
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>>64632903
>the Legend class isn't up to Navy safety standard, we shall pick the FREMM
>the FREMM class isn't up to Navy safety standard, we shall pick the Legend class
>???
>another 20 trillions to the burkes
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>>64633106
>The Legend class was built to the Navy's level 1 survivability standard
Can I see a source on this? I'm not trying to be an ass, this is just literally the first I am hearing of this.
>The LCS was designed for level 1 survivability, later ostensibly retrofitted for a "level 1+" level
This is partially true and partially misguided. It actually was originally built with "1+" and then they went back and reinforced it even above that when everyone started bitching because they don't understand naval build strategy.
>The OHP class was built to a level 2 standard
OHP predates the SSSL that OPNAV came out with in '89(? Someone check me)
>>64633119
Coni was built after they dropped the SSSL. Given it is a frigate, it almost certainly was built to Level 2.
>>64633123
Complete fabrication or parrotting misinformation. Take your pick.
>whatever standard Europeans build their frigates to (which is probably better than the LCS)
Ahahahahahahaha
>agreement to build...Freedom in equal numbers to Independence
This is false on its face. Go look at how many Indis vs how many Freedoms were actually built.
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>>64632793
>Yes, the Navy proposed buying it as well to get support from the senators with their states in locksneed's supply chain
If I can decypher your non-English meme speak you're an idiot. That is a GD boat.

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You're now aware that the Puma IFV has a 5.56 coax.
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>>64634351
The upgraded variant replaces it with a proper machine gun.
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Every coaxial gun should from now on be a .50 cal, with 50/50 SLAP and high explosive rounds.
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>>64634413
>.50 cal PLAP
Hot.

post big boom booms
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artillerymen are gay retards who can't do an infantry irl (I'm only playing love you guys)
75mm Pack Howitzer in WWII
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>>64634344
>the factory builds the shells and they go straight down the conveyor belt to the gun where they are fired.
nice

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Who were some opponents of early tank development? I'm trying to do research on the subject, and of course there's the story of Churchill needing to steal money to fund the landship committee and stuff, but who exactly opposed it and why? Searching terms like "anti tank" or "tank opponents" just turns up anti-tank warfare.
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>>64630043
Thank you.
>>64630232
>just go look for random books in the library
Oh, yeah, sure. I'll go look in the 'history' section. It must be between "Book about D-Day #1' and 'Book about Holocaust #2".
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>>64629942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semyon_Budyonny
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>>64630232
>Insists on forcing others to read books
>Doesn't specify which books.
This is why Death Traps doesn't go away.
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>>64634312
>>Doesn't specify which books.
If I knew the books I'd name them. But alas, I'm not a tank autist so I don't know what those are.

I *do* recognize the problem though: anon is looking for information which the internet doesn't have. The internet is great for stuff that's old enough to be out of copyright, or stuff that's new and trendy. It fucking sucks for anything not in either of those two categories. The information anon wants will be tied up in books. You can use google to identify them--that's something Google is actually good for.

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>duuude gun laws are pointless because everyone with 4k worth of tools and 2 weeks of free-time can build his very own SMG (that has an effective range of 10 yards)
ok but where are you going to get the ammo?
sure, smuggling 10 rounds across the border is easier than smuggling a weapon but for a proper "protect the rights of the people"-situation you need hundreds if not thousands of rounds per gun

seems like it would make more sense to build DIY long range rifles instead of SMGs / Pistols so you can get the most out of each round
yes, you can make your own ammo with blanks and slugs but that stuff can be banned too and then its back to square 1
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i built a shotgun out of 3/4 pipe. it took me 2 hours and a 6 pack

OP is a fag
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>>64632007
Ultimately this is a field of research more than engineering and crafting. Research of the means to reach the end goals. And one of the forever-problems is ammunition. It's always been a concern and it will always be a concern, to the point that both the firearms and the ammunition solutions are a gradient. Gradient of skill and tools required, motivation required and the available resources. And you just pick which works for you.

You're the whiny russian guy. I've seen you before and you always bitch about russian blanks sucking ass. I think I've told you this before, but you need to look into alternative mechanisms because clearly synthetizing materials for your needs is out of the scope of your capabilities. I'm not calling you an asshole, I'm saying that it's not something you can do. Clearly you understand methods of synthetizing BP, so do that. For primers use electrical ignition.

And for the love of god, be the inside man. I have no idea what you have available off the shelf or what is legal in your location. If you understand the local limitations then be the person who defines requirements and solutions which can be applied by locals.
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>>64630041
It's entirely possible to build rifles that use paper cartridges and are lethal out to a mile. If they did it in the 19th century then surely we can do it today.
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>>64634029
>you will never succeed in making an anti-state/separatist militia keen on surpassing the state and letting the people have guns freely in any civilized part of the world

Well no, of course not. The people who even care about guns that much are in the extreme minority. The world as it stands also makes it a bad choice for the most part, anywhere awful enough to force you to make guns to change things would be bad enough to get you asylum in a country much better than the one you left could ever be if you simply escaped. I'm kind of suprised Myanmar is shaking out the way it is with armed resistance to a military junta, it may be a matter of scale.
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>>64634133
americans unironically believe that putting two springs and a pin into a ready made receiver and attaching factory made barrels and furniture they can buy anywhere counts as gunsmithing while they support one of the most corrupt and liberty infringing regimes known to modern times
fucking intellectual midgets

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what's the strangest animal used in war?
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>>64629608

based
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Moose as cavalry in combat with repeating arms.
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>>64597452
Easily defeated by war pigs.
>Megarians doused some pigs with combustible pitch, crude oil or resin, set them alight, and drove them towards the massed Macedonian war elephants. The elephants bolted in terror from the flaming, squealing pigs, often killing great numbers of Macedonian soldiers by trampling them to death.
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yeah
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>>64597362
Niggers

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LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD

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>>64634218
Not at all, the resident troll kept it bumped. I guess he likes seeing his role model with drag makeup
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Does EOD have any job opportunities outside the mil?
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>>64634244
Exactly. Robert is literally the only guy who still posts here lol
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>>64634355
Ironic that the guy who wants these threads to disappear is the one preventing them from disappearing.
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>>64634401
Why would he want them to disappear? He created the whole Robert character as a strawman to argue against.

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Post gear, discuss gear.
Camo chic: Operator mode
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Are there multi curve hybrid composition plates yet that defeat M80A1, M855A1, HOT M193 etc, while being LESS than 4.6lbs per 10x12", and that cost less than $400 per plate, and are no more than 1" thick?
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What type of stuff can I fit inside the velocity system buttpack
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>>64632092
Laser hair removal from your anus would make for MUCH easier cleanup. Just try this experiment next time you wipe:
>be you
>shitting
>wiping
>wipe poo on your arm
>now wipe it off with the papper
>sniff test
You will fail the sniff test because the paper doesn't clean. Add in poo clinging to your ass bush and you really do have a problem.
>>64632123
He does.
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>>64632926
They placed the charge in the center to ostensibly not damage the door frame. I think that was a red herring to avoid the charge looking even more pathetic if properly placed.
>>64633075
Lighter than Jinwudun's Level III PE helmet, and predictably a no-show.
>>64633188
Basically every helmet higher than M855 / M80 protection has been a no-show aside from extremely expensive and heavy Ceradyne or Tencate applique sets.
>>64633601
I agree.
>>64634131
The LTC 28570 (4.58lb 9.5x12.5), VelSys TSA (4.6lb 9.5x12.5), and Tyr XHA4/S6/T (4.5lb) meet your weight, thickness, and protection requirements but that price is impossible unless you get second hand from a crackhead that needs them gone immediately for a fix.
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>>64634131
Also, as a side note, the 10x12 swimmer versions of the 28570, VelSys TSA, and Tyr XHA6WTFBBQ are about 0.2lb lighter than SAPI M. They don't sell in 10x12 shooters since they're SOCOM-oriented plates. The Tyr plate is really badass since it'll make Level IV if backed by IIIA and, by default, meets the 6x 7.62x51mm M80 Level III req on top of 2x BZ API or 1x B-32, but it's impossible to get without credentials. LTC 28570 and the VelSys show up second hand for 2.5-3.5k a set. The Tyr plate's OEM is either Tencate or NP Aerospace.

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>Delta operators all just shoot USPSA
>Seal Team 6 guys all do jujitsu
>guy with an immunology degree who dropped out of medical school to serve in the USAF as a non-deployable POG makes videos every week wearing different larp costumes as he shills PSA garbage and makes videos on 'how to be deadly in [x] environment'
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>>64607025
Having a speech impediment is fine, typing it is for morons. People with stutters d-d-dont t-t-t-type l-l-l-ike th-th-this (outside of furfag erotic roleplay, anyway), dyslexics dont type their words backwards and they cant even read so they're just guessing the keys, even thirdie ESLs don't type in their accents and replace R or L with W, so why the fuck would you type you own inability to enunciate?
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>>64601679
Umo this is a 11b Hector Bravo California penalty style of posting
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>>64601483
>POV: you
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>>64601657
Good god feds just keep getting dumber and dumber...
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>>64625218
You are literally (non-metaphorically) the bad guy when SHTF. Anyone who has no community will be immediately desperate, sick and hungry and will resort to skullduggery

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>Flapper Locked
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something something shit-encrusted ass hair
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>>64631969
>>64631971
Boardwalk Empire. Actress is Meg Steedle. What you seek is out there.
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>>64632020
>Boardwalk Empire
thanks
I always forget about this show and Peaky Blinders
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>>64631919
>flat as a board
>still sexy
more like boardwank empire amirite
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>rolling block
>blocks don't roll

tell horror stories about what happens when women get their hands on a firearm, I'll start...
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>>64629297
Quality people being taught, simple as
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>>64628633
>take gf innawoods to shoot pistol first time
>set orange out about 15 feet
>explain safety, never point, only finger trigger to shoot
>explain safety again she *sighs*
>miss, miss, miss, miss, hits orange
>jumps with excitement and squeals with exceitement
>whips around with giant smile pointing gun at me with finger on trigger
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>>64633316
>first time shooter
>loading more than one bullet at a time
Rookie mistake. When I taught my wife to shoot, it was one bullet in the gun for the 30 minutes at least. So she could get used to the kick and show that she can follow simple directions(the hardest part).
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>>64631854
Your mother sounds based af.
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>>64629356
Did you ever fuck your sisters?

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>>64618290
Just found my 11/9, gonna break gun rule #2 never sell. Unless there is an FRT for the Mac 11? Mine's an Intertec.
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>>64633076
I will have to look, but I'm gonna break gun rule #2 and sell mine. I just don't like my Tec-22 and it takes Ruger mags.
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>>64634256
>>>64618752 (You) #
>Yup, people that dont actually own one dont understand these are heavy as fuck and made of thick fucking steel.
>Also Lage just came out with a 5.56 belt fed upper for these and a .22 LR upper that uses Ruger 10/22 mags.
>For a transferable machine gun you cant beat the value.
Still, I am motivated to sell, mine's semi and I have some (rare?) accessories all from Intertec. Without FRT, the fun just isn't there. Screwing on the bbl extention is a violation. And the carbine upper is only cool with the wire stock, if then. Thinking to fund a Lima6 with frt.
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>>64634303
Well yeah, if its a semi auto then like whats the point? lol the whole point of the Mac platform is to be a full auto assault style weapon. It was originally made to replace the M1911 as a more capable side arm and did see some use as suppressed weapon for special forces in Vietnam.

A lot of people dont know that, but it was actually in Govt service for a short duration and they did have a contract with the Govt.

I would only own a semi auto one if it were one of the rare open bolt semis that pop up from time to time, those actually appreciate and are worth a few grand.

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>image limit reached

https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player
>Simulate schizophrenic auditory hallucinations with the sound player plugin!
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HOLY FUCKING SHIIIIIIT IT'S ALMOST CHRISTMAS

https://youtu.be/FiQyYGEZAFk

IM ALREADY FULL OF HOLIDAY CHEER
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I'm so thankful for all the elves in Finland that help make all the presents for Santa to deliver!

I love elves <3 <3 <3
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Christmas is less than 2 weeks away!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ_d_VKrFgM
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I hope you guys have already started getting gifts for your friends and family

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Did the Ruger bx1 kill tube magazines for 22s?
Also should Ruger make the 96 again or should people just get a Volquartsen?
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>>64634285
Yeah
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>>64634285
>Did the Ruger bx1 kill tube magazines for 22s?
It's a charm. But ever tube gun I own has its own charm. For current produbtion, the Marlin M60 is still tube? (But Google shows it stopped production in 2020.)
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>>64634285
Hate those little flush 10rd fuckers like you wouldn't believe.
Need to carry a small screwdriver or something to get them out now and then because the whims of Bill Rugers ghost cause them to be completely unfucking removable.
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>>64634389
Skill issue.

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Navy Secretary John Phelan just recently revealed the most recent proposal to replace the Constellation class frigates. It's basically a modified version of the Coast Guard's Legend class cutter carrying 16 VLS cells.
https://breakingdefense.com/2025/12/navy-wants-new-frigate-in-2028-says-services-acquisition-head/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5OJZ8eB_mPA&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD
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>>64634188
If both china and europe put 2-3x as many weapons on the same size ship, you maybe have a freedom deficit.
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>>64634308
You're guesstimating on not much there. A retractable hanger is fine for EEZ patrolling. Look at the parent design, it's the same setup, but with mods for a higher threat environment.

>>64634343
Accommodation standards for USN are miserable. You're getting commercial grade space and services on most warships now.
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>>64634350
You're counting capability by cells or guns, you have to go back. You're not having equal tonnage because of lead weights. There's a reason for it.
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>>64634361
>A retractable hanger is fine for EEZ patrolling
for low-tempo EEZ patrolling where you sortie like once a day, sure

but if you expand the context to low-threat low-activity-rate environments, lots of things are permissible. you could even arrange to have constant land-based patrols and eschew helicopters entirely (they're expensive) and settle for a drone launch system and davits to send out your VBSS teams on fast boats, if the threat you're addressing is low enough. so what's the context? are we still talking about turdie EEZ patrol or FFGX fits?
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>>64633683
Cost plus contracts


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