>>97342798
i know anon. and it is entirely carried by these scribblings because there sure as fuck ain't not systems to talk about under that PEAK ART.
the worst offenders are the mörg borg variations and cain. basically unreadable but the art is SO PEAK

>>97337980
It is possible.

The issue is that good design art needs to draw from an inspiration or inspirations, and intentionally evoke a sensation or feeling.

This is orders easier in fantasy, as the longer something's been around, the more easily it can be drawn on as a motif, and the more powerful the symbolism, and emotional sensation is.

To use OP pic.
>The pic on the left draws reference from historical armour, but also from certain symbols and motifs (the hand/tower symbol on the front, and the skull helm mask).
>It EVOKES feelings of chivalric might by way of the armour, but also of intimidation, peril, and dread by the symbol on the chest being tall and intimidating in shape, and the skull helm hiding all but the shadowed eyes peering out at you.
>It comes across as physically powerful, grim and threatening character, within a well known appearance and trope of a well armoured medieval warrior.
>So it is believable, impactful, and registers well.


In opposition.

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>>97347719
The reason why a lot of Scifi doesn't have good art, is because a lot of scifi is about new shit. It's own shit. Not tropes and motifs and such things.

That makes good reading material, but does not lend itself well to the visual medium.

The reason why settings like 40k, but also Dune, Star Wars, Alien and the like all look good, is because their design is always done in consideration to, if not pre-existing icons, tropes or motifs (monastic robes, angry faces, bloated insects, Space Knights, First rate ships of the line, the nazi's, the Napoleonic era etc), then they're designed clearly to evoke physical and emotional reactions by their shape, size and details (Sexual violence, predation, gorillan brutality, the unergonomic harshness of industrial technology, noble enlightenment, inhumanity, Everything about the new Dune movies).

It's also why the early concept art for Dune all looks mid-to-shit (don't lie, it does). Because most of the time the fine details of what the character would have, were more important than what the character evokes, and you couldn't pick out a Sardukhari from an Atradian.

TL:DR If you want your scifi art to be aesthetically pleasing, be less autistic, and ask what emotional impression you get.

>>97338525
Infinity has my vote, space knights are a little silly but it simultaneously avoids the pauldroncore of 40k and dull NASApunk

>>97347751
It's not like you can't have a mix of both old and new in a manner, see Stargate for instance
Also idk how you can say Dune "looks good" when every visual interpretation of it looked way different. I like some depictions and don't care for others

>bonus to reaction rolls and attracting retainers

OP i don't think you've been playing games for two decades. this has a direct, useful function in the game it's from. you're talking about some weird theatre group you're in.

>>97343314
nobody used those rules because they're retarded

there's a reason they got removed from later editions

>>97343317
no, they're what the charisma stat is for. as in, they're just the actual rules. you could play-act out a whole 'scene' and if your...troupe leader (???) decides you gave a grand performance then you get an extra torchbearer from the tavern.

...or you could follow the simple procedure in the game rules, lol.

>>97343336
rules don't matter when they're too shit to use

>>97347459
Not beating the all that you haven’t played games enough to know that, OP

>>97344648
That just makes you a closeted homo

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>>97345036
>>97345069
The elf is only there to make it tenuously /tg/ related content. OP has made it patently obvious he just wants to jerk off to spanking related greentexts

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>Anon makes a patently horny thread about using fetishes in ttrpg's without being magical realm.
>Gets mad that anons take the subject seriously and discuss implemented fetishistic material in ttrpg's that is entirely unsexy, as not to be magical realm.

>>>/d/ is right there, on the top and bottom of the page.
If you want a fap, go there.

>>97347794
spanking as a topic is not allowed on /d/, it has to go on echi for some reason.

>>97347481
that sounds so radical. a single turbolift can go far enough to get all the genres and themes of sci-fi done in one ride.

Jorus C. Booth

Jorus C. Bluth

You can only pick one to accompany you on your endeavors in outer-rim quasi-legal cargo transportation. Who do you pick?
>girlfailure chiss mechanic
>tomboy besalisk bodyguard
>icequeen miralan doctor
>flirty rodian trader
>tsundere twilek pilot

>>97347793
Anyone who uses the term girlfailure to describe anything should be beaten to death with rusty pipe as their entire family is forced to watch.

>>97346279
>>97330572
Not really, if anything half the time it makes kemonomimi characters even more annoying than regular beastfolk because they HAVE to overplay the animal meme behavior because otherwise you'd forget they were not human, and that their inhumanity is not even important to their character.

Remember, if she doesn’t have a snout she’s out

>>97345454
Ears 'n' tail

>>97345155
The lack of human hair is the biggest thing that makes it not-okay, otherwise it would probably be tolerable
People don't generally complain about the Na'vi even though they're even uncannier looking

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I find amusing how we obsess so much with Catgirls when historically people were more obsessed with Dog-headed peoples.

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>>97325229
I tried, quite a comfy exercise

>>97344760
This is good! Nice work anon

>>97344806
hey cheers, I''ve always had a fondness for pretty much any horselord culture that once roamed the pontic and caspian steppe, perfect for inspirations regarding centaurs

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If a humcan PC is riding a centaur PC and they dismount, do you charge the human half of their movement speed for the dismount? I was thinking about offering up some feat that allowed the rider to retain their movement after dismounting for some interesting movement mechanics. 40 feet + an additional 30 from the human rider.

Some folks were saying the idea of having a human and a centaur fighting while the human was on their back might be a little broken (two-player instances occupying the same space, I can see being a problem). Maybe make it so only the human or the centaur can attack per turn if the human is riding them? This would mean the player has to dismount the centaur to get their own battle action per turn.

>>97344760
like the ornamentation on the tail

>>97345321
RIP Warrior, loading the space ships with the rocket fuel in Heaven.

>>97334882
Straight fantasy is about fantasy. Queer fantasy is about leftwing idpol and being gay.

>>97347514
Not really, straight fantasy is when you make setting so boring, your companie dies from it and you get fired, queer fantasy is all other forms of fantasy.
Mostly because, if you are showing extremely masculine fantasy, it's gay by trying to be super straight, and if you don't do it, you get TSR and shittiest settings of DnD ever. Why you think they needed FR to save their game

>>97338303
I hope you're still happy as you age.

I have a feeling I probably see young MtF's around that I don't clock, because the ones I notice are all the old men in women's dresses that just make me want to laugh out loud.

>>97337383
Goddamn, Tiefling players are so thin skinned.

>>97347606
V5 or V20?

>>97347691
Unfortunately, it's V5 but the writers do have some interesting takes on koldunism.
It's free on ST Vault.

>>97347541
No love for Geist?

>>97347694
Thx for the info.

>>97347733
I never see anyone talk about Geist here desu but maybe give it a few hours while my fellow 'murricans wake up. Good luck

>>97323374
>It’s a worse game than 40k by quite a bit
It does the simplified bit without stubbing its toe that 40k has done in the past 3 years.

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>>97323153
>this entire fucking post
Good enough bait for a (You), not good enough for me to take it seriously

>>97303205
Have you ever seen a 40k fan?

>>97311345
:,(

>>97302988
AOS......Won.....

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>>97345567
Oh, lots of things are real and out there and could eat you, not sexually. A big one is spirits, mostly living in an otherworld of sorts. Werewolves have this trick where they can go through it to jump out of a puddle of water in your haven and eat you. And they do that shit incessantly if they decide you're a problem, like good God. I nearly got my face clawed clean off by a werewolf who managed to come out of a coffee cup a ghoul forgot to put a cap on. Most spirits don't like you, but they're usually aren't super likely to cause trouble for you. Unless you're like my coterie, in which case your night will sometimes look like the attached picture. That's a were-raven, by the way, those exist. There's also full-on wizards who throw fireballs and shit, were-sharks and were-cats and were-crocodiles, fairies... You'll get a good list of somewhat-major things soon enough, people love to brag about how they've met a mummy and lived.

There is a lot of weird things out there, though. Things that either defy classification, or just are so strange that even though they're technically 'just' a fairy, it really feels like something else.

Not-men pretending to be human on highways, luring in kind strangers. Living mountains, moving only when nobody's watching, or when you irritate them by coming near nature's holiest places. Covens of witches, occultists, wild mages and practicioners of esoteric arts, who do all sorts of strange things with vitae, and see you as a threat and a source of power. Psychics, who see things even I can't see with all my power, mirthful with their knowledge. Kine possessed by something foul and rotten and new and different every time, shambling about as if their eyelids aren't peeling off or their eyes aren't maggot-ridden. Birds of prey so vast to them you aren't even worth the time to swoop down, 'Kine' that seem entirely normal, up until you realize they're making sure to always face you, because they're flat as paper...

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It's my turn to punish Boy Toy for running away with Cope when the ladies needed him the most. I asked uncle if a woman can wear a chokha too and he showed me this picture.

I immediately had the ladies of the staff wear this, called Blue Fairy, Mamma, Assoluta and Scarlet, and had the largest lesbian orgy House Venus ever had in Bridgeport.

As for Boy Toy, he was immobilized, mummified and buried under my bed with Mamma's kindred-proof gear, and held in sensory deprivation, only able to "watch" our sapphic passions with the help of Auspex, a reminder of his place in the food chain.

>>97346563
>>97347438
Does all that shit have a Masquerade too to keep the normies ignorant? Man of Florida is teaching me stuff and said the Masquerade is a "recent" invention by my clan, I really don't get why does the Sabbat settle for a poor man's version of a Masquerade in the current year.
I know there are some Sabbat vampires here, can anyone explain?
>a werewolf who managed to come out of a coffee cup a ghoul forgot to put a cap on
Huh? The fuck? Suddenly Mercury Lamp and staff putting coasters - or saucers as she and Venus call them - over the cups instead of under them is starting to make more sense.
>Covens of witches, occultists, wild mages and practicioners of esoteric arts, who do all sorts of strange things with vitae, and see you as a threat and a source of power.
Why can't we be friends when we're all hiding our asses from the normies anyway? Like I know it sounds naive and stupid as fuck to ask this, but there must be a reason and I hope it ain't stupid as fuck too.

>>97347642
>Does all that shit have a Masquerade too to keep the normies ignorant?
Kinda! The real-deal wizards have some sort of major compulsion against doing magic with normies seeing, but that's entirely outside of my wheelhouse, my coterie does its best to not ever interact with those weirdos. The wolves would gladly be out and about and exterminating us and Kine, but they don't have the numbers or the punch for it, so they hide instead, because most werewolves can't shrug off a 500-pound bomb blowing up in their face, and that's what they'll get if humans large-scale realize they have a big, furry, teethy ecoterrorist problem. Spirits just have a really, really, really hard time manifesting in the real world; that picture I posted is on the far more obnoxious and rare side of things, it just isn't meant to happen, but we live on special grounds, so we get a giant lightning-toucan setting fire to the woods.That said, I don't think spirits care much about secrecy. Other things like fae I'm not sure about, but there's a reason the world is as it is, so maybe there's some reason why they, or giant birds of prey, don't show up in the news.
Funnily enough, the Masquerade kinda helps all other paranormal things stay hidden: you don't want to have Kine figure out werewolves are real, because then they'll start to wonder about vampires. Best keep them secret, if you can.

>Huh? The fuck? Suddenly Mercury Lamp and staff putting coasters - or saucers as she and Venus call them - over the cups instead of under them is starting to make more sense.
Yeah, it's a bit of a nightmare. Not sure if every wolf can do the coffee cup trick, or, like this one guy I saw, leave a fight by 'walking' into their own sunglasses, but it happens sometimes, and you don't want it to happen to you. Notably, this ability has like zero representation in mass culture. All while in mass culture, vampires don't like reflective surfaces, mirrors, namely. Fun, huh?

>>97347724
Whoop, name fell off.

>>97347642
>Why can't we be friends when we're all hiding our asses from the normies anyway?
Why can't all Kindred be friends, instead of infighting about the dumbest shit possible? Fear and hunger, with a heavy dose of paranoia.
Also, Kindred do work with human occultists, witches and so on, and they work with Kindred! Sometimes it works out fine. I'm tight with some clairvoyants, seers and so on all over a couple states. They worship the fucking ground I walk on, because I am a predictive supercomputer and they're cold-readers with a little touch of special something to them that makes their bullshit not just work, but actually let them grasp the future a little.

So, it does work out sometimes. But other times, a Tremere chantry kidnaps a group of occultists to turn them into fledglings or ghouls, depending on their potential, and sometimes a group of occultists kidnaps a fledgling to repetitively drain her of vitae, as to get lots and lots of powerful ingredients. Sometimes a vampire addicts a witch coven to his blood by exploiting their lack of knowledge about blood bonds, and sometimes a coven swindles a vampire out of his blood, gives it to a Tremere who uses it to through rituals spy on and maybe kill the vampire, and earn a commission for their services.

Want to roll the dice and see what happens when you try to work with a little herbal-alchemy cult, water their plants with your vitae in return for tinctures for your ghouls, build a decent working relationship, or would you rather just assume the worst, kill the most troublesome ones, ghoul the rest and enjoy your new help? For a lot of Kindred, the answer is obvious.

up

I like these threads because they are the diametric opposite of yet another "Worldbuilding thread".
It is pure crunch.

Go autist man Go!

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>>97341670
ty fren

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This game sounds based and redpilled but im too stupid for it

>>97345421
nah

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Gemini does armor from reference fairly well
The sword is from a reference too but it proved much more difficult

>>97347257
I think she would need a help with moving fully armored man around, since there's no chance she would do it alone, even when buffing strength and stamina with spells.

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did slaanesh really need more dual weapon infantry

>>97347672
shoulda named it YJK

>>97344461
DOOM.

>>97344461
>It is the year 199X
>Your friends have just sent you a text message to your Nokia 3210
So it's at least 1999. Why am I playing half a decade plus old games?

>>97347522
do you just...stop playing games?

i had games installed on my computer in 1999 that were from almost a decade earlier (based Windows 98 still supporting DOS).

now, in 2026, i have games installed from 30 years ago. that's why there's GOG and "abandonware" sites. games like RollerCoaster Tycoon and Morrowind are still really popular.

>>97347664
>Zoomer can't grasp how revolutionary the 90s were in terms of vidya and general computing capabilities
Stuff from 95 was fucking ANCIENT in 99. To put your idiotic shitpost thread into a period-accurate context: Tomb Raider 3 was lambasted fro being "samey", old-ass and generally outdated, despite TR1, mere 3 years prior, was considered the most revolutionary game EVER. And that despite 3 being a big technological leap to 1 that could be compared to something like a 2010 32bit game and 2020 64bit game.
In 93, the sheer concept of being in 3D was fuck-huge, by 98, NOT being a 3D meant you were dated and shit-tier

>>97344461
I was into Mechwarrior 3 in 199x so neither

>>97347567
>but isn't that just Path of the Best or some of the Irish rangers
If we get pagans, it will be a subfaction. Unless some campaign book adds pagans in the far future.

>>97347539
There is an Orthodox warband in the game. It's a subfaction of Trench Pilgrims.

>>97347603
That is a shame, I would love a Pagan faction that could pick different Gods to worship kinda like how Heretics choose a Hell patron. It would add some flavour and maybe a few fun mechanics based on which Old Pantheon your warband has.

>>97347707
iirc the pagan norsemen would probably be a good faction for that. Some worship hell but a lot of the pagans follow the old gods still.

>>97347714
Pagan Norsemen would be fun, in lore they could be raiding both Holy and heretic convoys, I imagine them like proper vikings except with submarines and dreadnoughts. On tabletop I'd give them a power from their worshipped God. Let's say having Ullr as your patron you can give a unit double movement once per game.

>>97346873
Probably time. I'll relentlessly tease you for you standard rotation though. Did they squat Kasrkin yet?

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>>97339316
Thinking of doing a solo Necromunda campaign; basic premise will be that a House Delaque gang has uncovered a scandal that occured in House Helmawr and after trying to get back in contact with their house contact have been "temporarily" ex-communicated and outlawed and are being hunted by some goons sent by Helmawr to silence them. For the main NPC/enemy team, would it make more sense for it to be a Spyrer Hunting Party chasing them down, or a Palanite Enforcer station that suddenly got really solid leads and lots of free time to apprehend the newly appointed outlaws?

>>97346873

This thread fell of the edge of the board before I brought it back. I mean, I'm fine with it, but the vibe of KT is a bit different; it seems like a more tournament-focused game.

>>97347378

Bro, I can't recommend a "solo" "game"; that's some sad sack shit. Find some people to play with.

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AIslop of my first Mordheim game.
>mfw my mercenary captain got shot by a dark elf and got a chest wound
He's going to be a designated sniper anyway but at least I rolled Fletcher on exploration and got long bows